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Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA

Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.

rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.

TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-

For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.

The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.

I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.

manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?

powerwagon said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.

Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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New trend in mobile reviews: 'Nexus 4 was average, bare bones phone'. I disagree!

So, I was watching Pocketnow review of the Nexus 5. Video begins as the reviewer tells us that there were always cheap versions of awesome products, and that they always succeed to disappoint us. Next to the pictures of those products (PolyStation, copy of PlayStation, and other awfull stuff), we are presented with the Nexus 4, as the perfect example of cheap and bare bones products that disappointed us.
To make the situation worse, this isn't the only review that bashes the Nexus 4. Internet is full of articles that practically say: Nexus 4 was average phone, with average specs.
Average phone? Average specs? Snapdragon S4 Pro was the most powerful processor at the time of N4 release, and still is the beast. 2 gigs of RAM was double what GS3, '2012 flagship', had. It had one of the sharpest screens at the time, matching IPhone 5 320 ppi. It had latest version of stock, vanilla android, support for wireless charging, great looks, nice build quality, premium feel. It was the fastest phone out there, and still handles everything you throw at it. It had, and still has the best development support, best, bug free roms and best developers. What was average in this?
It didn't have best camera out there. And it didn't come with LTE. But it's price was 350$ unlocked.
Nexus 4 was, and still is, one great phone. And sad thing is, people don't get it. Worse thing is, reviewers don't get it. As a matter of fact, maybe they do, but they are to spoilt with 600$+ flagships.
Saddest thing, Nexus 4 was equally good as 2012 flagships. It had something GS3 didn't, it didn't have something GS3 had. This isn't compromise, it's different ideology.
And now, Nexus 5 is equally good as 2013 flagships. It has something GS4 doesn't, it doesn't have something GS4 does.
By the time Nexus 6 arrives, N5 will be remembered just like N4 is now, 'bare bones, average device, full of compromises'.
What do you think?
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Nexus 4 is still one of the best phones out now because of all the developers. Reviewers who say N4 is average are retarded imo.
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The problem with lot's of reviews that are about products only focus on what you get, not on how much you have to pay to get it. This especially happens in the world of smartphones. This is why they give such a low score to the Nexus 4, like, how much do you care about a camera in a phone? IMO that's a good point to shave of some money from the price. It's nice to have one, but I personally do not care if it is amazing or just mediocore.

if you know its a good phone why you bother with shi-t like this? baffles me, just enjoy what you got and don't worry about what others think.
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Many of them think phone's quality = camera quality. Ignore them. Nexus 4 has quite a few compromises in favour of price and in favour of not beating LG Optimus G (LG aren't retarded, it's obvious they wouldn't make an equal or better phone for a cheaper price), BUT it sets aside all the unnecessary gimmicks and focuses on raw power. It's not a false policy, it's just a different ideology. In fact the biggest change Nexus 4 brought to the market is that you could get a top class smartphone for a decent price. And they're continuing this policy with the Nexus 5. This cannot be underestimated. By this logic of completely neglecting the price they could review a low cost budget phone and call it ****. Not a wrong statement to make, but not a fair one either. In a consumer economy price is and always will be relevant and needs to be taken into account.

Completely agree. It's interesting how some tech blogs forget what was said in their own Nexus 4 reviews! Even the camera used to be praised when it was released.

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Completely agree. It's interesting how some tech blogs forget what was said in their own Nexus 4 reviews! Even the camera used to be praised when it was released.
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Yeah, I remember when MKBHD reviewed N4, he said camera is on pair with GS3
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Lol.. just wait & watch.. This reviewer would say the same thing for N5 when N6 comes out..If N4 had the Avg specs, then i wonder what would be the good specs
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defffizz said:
So, I was watching pocketnow review of the Nexus 5. Video begins as the reviewer tells us that there were always cheap versions of awesome products, and that they always succeed to disappoint us. Next to the pictures of those products (polystation, copy of playstation, and other awfull stuff), we are presented with the Nexus 4, as the perfect example of cheap and bare bones products that disappointed us.
To make the situation worse, this isn't the only review that bashes the Nexus 4. Internet is full of articles that practically say: Nexus 4 was average phone, with average specs.
Average phone? Average specs? Snapdragon S4 Pro was the most powerful processor at the time of N4 release, and still is the beast. 2 gigs of RAM was double what GS3, '2013 flagship', had. It had one of the sharpest screens at the time, matching IPhone 5 320 ppi. It had latest version of stock, vanilla android, support for wireless charging, great looks, nice build quality, premium feel. It was the fastest phone out there, and still handles everything you throw at it. It had, and still has the best development support, best, bug free roms and best developers. What was average in this?
It didn't have best camera out there. And it didn't come with LTE. But it's price was 350$ unlocked.
Nexus 4 was, and still is, one great phone. And sad thing is, people don't get it. Worse thing is, reviewers don't get it. As a matter of fact, maybe they do, but they are to spoilt with 600$+ flagships.
Saddest thing, Nexus 4 was equally good as 2012 flagships. It had something GS3 didn't, it didn't have something GS3 had. This isn't compromise, it's different ideology.
And now, Nexus 5 is equally good as 2013 flagships. It has something GS4 doesn't, it doesn't have something GS4 does.
By the time Nexus 6 arrives, N5 will be remembered just like N4 is now, 'bare bones, average device, full of compromises'.
What do you think?
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Totally agree with you!

Nexus 4 average? What a ridiculous shade from someone, I'm pretty sure, doesn't know a thing about android world, S3 was the ~TOP smartphone~ last year and Nexus 4 is better than that, what a... I can't even... I just... I can't right now, bye

Only one word - marketing...
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My opinion is that the Nexus 4 has always been slightly under the top of the line, especially in battery and camera. Battery and LTE are as good if not better then many other flagships due to the great developer support. I'm pretty sure a N4 with cm10.2 and Franco performs better than many phones with lesser specs
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sooo!
I don't care what the reviewers say...I love my N4 and I will keep it for a long time...

The Nexus 4 is no where near average. Matter of fact its STILL high end. Comparing spec wise there is only a few phones with higher ends specs and those happen to be 2013 phones, this is a 2012 phone and STILL competes with those flagships.
About the camera: If someone is really THAT much into photography and cameras, why rely on a phone? I enjoy my N4 camera. I don't expect a phone to take 'stunning' images. The only phone that will probably beat any camera phone is the Galaxy Zoom, and that's hideous to look at.
Compare the N4 to other phones that are still being releases with only 1 or half a gig or RAM, lower resolutions, and older android versions, in 2013........
The android OS still beats any phone. The fact that it runs bare stock android and gets updates before any other phones, alone beats all phones out there.
Who ever did that review is on crack.
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Because it's lacking bunch of **** shipping with other brands.
Perhaps a laggy launcher, overwhelming animations, tons of unremovable bloatwares
and batch of uncompleted feature just made there for marketing purpose, making the device incredibly slow with top hardware?
Oh, and one-third of money you pay are for advertisements.
I won't purchase any non-Nexus Android devices since I bought a Nexus 7.

b1337 said:
if you know its a good phone why you bother with shi-t like this? baffles me, just enjoy what you got and don't worry about what others think.
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Think big picture -- reviewers influence their audience more than you think. The readers form opinions and judge products without trying it out for themselves or doing any further research. They then spread this to their less-knowledgeable mainstream friends and family.
It's a problem and I wish reviewers would spend more time with devices before rushing to publish reviews for page views.

i saw that review too and think they just do it to get many clicks they always have to say new phones are good and old phones suck so they keep getting free review units...
ppl always criticized me for getting the n4 and saying its the best phone and yes camera was the argument and then i would say i have a canon eos 600d if i want to make pictures i use a proper camera and not a samsung galaxy iphone but those ppl dont understand because they need the best phone camera to instagram their food
and in my country lte is useless since the plan costs 3 times as much so h+ is the better choice imo
Trolololed from my iPhone 5S

dat signature
makes your comment a bit confusing
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To answer the OP just watch a better reviewer like MKBHD, Amondo Ferreira and Erica Griffin.
I watch Pocket Now, but I don't take their opinions as seriously.
Anyway, I've been really enjoying the Nexus 4 with ART so no need to upgrade yet.
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Interesting to compare these same reviewers opinions on the N4 to last year's when they praised it. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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The SINGLE best thing about my N5

Total noob to the Nexus line... owned MANY phones, and just came from iphone 5, then SG3, and this phone absolutely tunes them all. Best phone Ive ever owned, and a customer for life.
Coming from the S3, I have to say... (and the point of this thread is the SINGLE thing you love the most ---- but make it ORIGINAL... see my example)
The SINGLE best thing about my N5, is that my screen doesn't come on after I receiver EVERY. SINGLE. SMS. It was quite possibly the most annoying and infuriating thing about my S3. drove me nuts from day one. such a useless feature and w the amount of SMS i receive, a total waste of battery.
So... coming from your LAST phone, what's the SINGLE feature you love most?

Soulfly3 said:
Total noob to the Nexus line... owned MANY phones, and just came from iphone 5, then SG3, and this phone absolutely tunes them all. Best phone Ive ever owned, and a customer for life.
Coming from the S3, I have to say... (and the point of this thread is the SINGLE thing you love the most ---- but make it ORIGINAL... see my example)
The SINGLE best thing about my N5, is that my screen doesn't come on after I receiver EVERY. SINGLE. SMS. It was quite possibly the most annoying and infuriating thing about my S3. drove me nuts from day one. such a useless feature and w the amount of SMS i receive, a total waste of battery.
So... coming from your LAST phone, what's the SINGLE feature you love most?
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Comming from an Xperia Play, i love the Performance, nothing out-beats it!

Coming from the cdma Samsung galaxy nexus (Verizon).
I love the battery life and how smooth it runs compared to the gnex.

Coming from the nexus 4 I love how light the phone is and the soft touch in the back, so sexy
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Coming from too many phones to list I like the N5 for its perfectly calibrated super sharp and super bright screen. Of course I like it for many other reasons as well but the display stands out and also stands above the rest
Nexus5

Single feature I like is stock android right out the box and getting updates straight from Google.
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Coming from the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) I LOVE the battery life of this phone. Amazing.

for me it was the ability to run a true AOSP rom which I couldnt do with my d2spr

not a"cheap" device
the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device

Coming from a Galaxy S4 I love using Vanilla Android with Gravity Box. No bloated skin etc. Love the Nexus line. Definitely sticking with it.

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the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
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Moto X has a nicer build quality but i was like NAH to its 720P Screen and its badder camera and its lacking of the newest flagship CPU/GPU
the Snapdragon 800

$349 for a top-of-the-line smartphone... sorry breh, that's DIRT CHEAP

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the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
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How does this have anything to do with this thread? Cheap is a relative term, you're right the nexus really isn't a "cheap" device, its quite good quality. But in comparison to other similar devices it is a VERY low priced device.
My single favorite thing about the N5 specifically is probably the sheer speed and smoothness, its so gratifying to use the phone even for just basis tasks. Most of my other "favorites" about the N5 could probably be applied to the whole nexus line in general.
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Pizza_Dox said:
Comming from an Xperia Play, i love the Performance, nothing out-beats it!
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I would have to agree with Pizza_Dox, we both came from the Xperia PLAY forum. Of course the single best thing about the XP was the dedicated built-in game controller. The N5 is so freaking fast and smooth on everything I throw at it... so Performance... hands down.

Coming from the S4, I love the total lack of Touchwiz and all that Knox nonsense.

Coming from the xperia play as well I love the screen size/look if this phone. The xperia play was 4 inches and I have giant hands. It made the game pad awkward to use. The screen also was pretty low quality I think it was 480p. This one blows it away.
I know it's only one thing but I gotta say a second one. It's nice to have the newest android version. On the play I was constantly flashing Roms because of being stick on ginger bread
Also the thin size of this. Lol too many good things for me to pick just one
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Coming from N4
lots of things but if it has to be only one
SCREEN. marvelous. crystal clear and has far better colors to my eye.

Comin from a Galaxy ace I love the performance !
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-Snapdragon 800!
-Being able to say I own a 'Nexus', sounds awesome doesn't it! Lol.
Google has done a superb job IMO.

Came from n4 and probably the snapdragon 800 + bigger screen and better camera over the n4. Everything else is just a plus

A worthy Successor to the Nexus 5

Note: I apologise if this isn't the appropriate section but I couldn't think of a better one than the N5 General forum. English isn't my native language and although I proof read the post several times it's still going to be fairly awkward.
The Nexus 4 and 5* were high end devices with unlocked bootloaders, direct support from Google, large communities and they were sold at a very affordable price off-contract.
The Nexus 6 is a high end device with an (supposedly) unlocked bootloader, direct support from Google, a large community...
...but it costs 300€ more. That's 380 US dollars. Oh and it's also a 6 inch phablet. Both ensures that the N6 isn't an option for a lot of people, myself included.
I came to the conclusion the N5 doesn't actually have a successor.
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months and I don't know what to get. There are the usual suspects from Samsung, HTC, LG and all the other brands but they aren't the same as the Nexus. They all miss the extremely clean Android experience. Even the N5's design is very modest (something I'm missing in the Nexus 6). The software is arguably worse, they don't get direct updates and they probably have a smaller dev community too. They all are much more expensive than the Nexus 5 was in 2013.
The OnePlus One still hasn't been launched yet and I would prefer a phone from one of the known brands.
Can I hope for a Nexus 5 (2014)?
And if I don't: Is there even a spiritual successor to the Nexus line of smartphones?
*You may argue with battery life and camera but they were still extremely competitive when they were released.

the moto X 2014 developer's edition
thank me later.....

Why do you "need" a new phone? I'm only getting the nexus 6 because I'm a nexus fan boy. If they said oh were nut making a new nexus I would be totally fine with the nexus 5 for another year. It's still blazing fast. Even faster with lollipop.
If I was too get a new phone right now and I didn't get a nexus it would be a don't z3 or z3 compact.

Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet

aletto said:
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months
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Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:

Buy the Nexus 5 in a different color once Android L come out.
Bam, you've got yourself a new phone.

In my opinion, there is no worthy successor to the N5 yet.
Maybe next year. A Nexus 5 (2015) with Snapdragon 810, Good 13MP Camera with Sony Exmor sensor and Xenon flash, 4GB RAM, 1080p IPS Display, Good build quality (metal frame), 3200mAh battery and Android M ...that would be a good successor.
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Yakandu said:
Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.

Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal

CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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64 bits wont be any faster than 32, same as PC.

CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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How is the general responsiveness of the 1+1 compared to N5? We all love the N5 for its buttery smooth performance and huge dev support. Is that also there on the 1+1? Thanks.

Primokorn said:
Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?

aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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Atomix86 said:
You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...

arnaud39 said:
Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested

aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they don't need it.
aletto said:
What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Giving a N5 to your mother isn't a good idea I think. If you don't have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a 'better phone'.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.

KingDani1997 said:
Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
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Here is thz link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/official-poll-mugen-extended-internal-t2542589

Primokorn said:
Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they dont need it.
Giving a N5 to your mother isnt a good idea I think. If you dont have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a better phone.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.

aletto said:
Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
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Get her a Moto G instead. The 2014 edition is similar in size to the N5, and the lesser SoC feels snappy for just about everything besides gaming. Games will still run fine just not at quite the same level as the N5.
It's about $200 USD off contract and comes unlocked if bought direct from Motorola.

waa.. stop crying. the nexus one, nexus s, and the gnex were all more expensive. only the n4 and n5 were less. just because the n6 is bigger and cost more, then its not a replacement? deal with it or don't buy the next nexus. me, I'm always a nexus *****, so I'll get the n6 no matter what, as it IS the next nexus replacement.

Note 5, flip it or love it?

Hey XDA
Brief background, want to make this small post here.
Had the S4 for a year, actually enjoyed it for what it was worth, wanted out as soon as we knew for sure there was no root. Stock Touchwiz was just terrible on the 4.
I've never had the chance to own a Nexus device before, my carrier upgrades always came just before the Nexus devices were released, and I've been so ready to upgrade when it comes I jump on it.
This time around I stuck with my G3 for a while. I love this phone. I'm ready for new, and the phones coming out this year are not quite "notable"
I really have my eyes on the Nexus 6P - but US carriers not selling it means I have a decision to make. Got my dad the Note 4 earlier this year, he likes it. I like it the little bit I've played with it. I feel I could even use the Note 5 to replace my notebook in class for notes. ATT bootloader seems to be like the S4. Not much will come of bootloader unlocks with this phone.. It appears.
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So I will upgrade through ATT, probably to the Note 5. Question is - stay with the Note 5 and learn to love it, despite the experiences I've had with Samsung, or flip it unopened on CL and order up the N6P....??
I really do not want a subpar camera to the G3, nor do I want a dull screen. Both devices seem on par, both no SD, battery not removable on the Note... Cameras both good..
Anyone here want the Nexus 6P?! Willing to get rid of your Note 5 for it?

The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.

If i had a real need for a second phone, Nexus 6P will be my choice
I like Note5 as my main phone, S pen is really helpful, and makes you smart ?
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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KarimSalloum said:
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
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The phone hasn't even come out yet, wait until someone can review it. There are phones with the chip that heat up a lot, and some that don't heat at all.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.

HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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True and true. I may end up doing that. Will be end of this month or next, don't want to make a payment to pay off my G3, got 4 months left but they usually let you swap with 2 left.
I want to try the N5, the S6 edge has a brilliant screen but not for me.
I just really have my heart set on this N6P. If I don't like what I get with the Note5 I may return it for a iPhone6S and sell that on CL. Should get more $$$ for it. Overnight myself a N6P and I'll be good to go.
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It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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Indeed. That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better... I'd sweep that in a heartbeat.
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion. If course, the Note typically has better optimized software and useful features.
I lean more and more to the n6p every time I look at it. But again, ATT doesn't sell. Going to really suck
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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I agree, I think somewhere along the line, maybe around lollipop, I started to enjoy the touchwiz version more because of all the useful features built in to the OS.
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better...
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.

HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.

Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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What V10?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
What V10?
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LG.

KarimSalloum said:
Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...

WizeGuyDezignz said:
LG.
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Saw it... Not interested in the front screen thing, seems a bit gimicky...
But... Could be neat. I don't think I will wait that long until I upgrade.
HNIC215 said:
I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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Yeah, yet the track record shows Samsung will not upgrade the software's RAM consumption near as much as they could. They just don't have our interests at heart, rather the general public. After all we are a minority on XDA.
May settle for the Note5, will have to find time to go play with one in the store soon..
Otherwise I'll flip an iPhone 6S for the N6P... Ugh.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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I say no. It may just be my writing, but I can only fit maybe 4-5 legible words across the screen in portrait mode, which makes for a lot of +New notes, or one lonnnnnnng one.
I've had my fun with it, but I am realizing it's just not convenient to try and pack a tablet into a phone, and use a phablet as a phone. I am now leaning more towards having a tablet for actual writing on, and a phone I can use easily in one hand for texting/emailing/calling.