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Nexus brand Quality

For folks who have owned multiple Nexus branded products (Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7) - What can I expect in terms of quality from my first Nexus product? What have been your experiences as you moved from one Nexus product to other? I know quality can be applied at many levels, be it the product build, performance, software etc - apart from the pure GOOG experience.

Will saying that I will only buy nexus phones tell you anything about 'quality'?
Edit: And Nexus products are what google themselves use, so you know its pretty much top of the line for that moment.
Edit2: And I have had Nexus one, Nexus S, and now Galaxy Nexus.

Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.

rmm200 said:
Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
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300 got rave reviews, tech sites/bloggers stoked over infinity pad. even Anandtech impressed. prime had good reviews but there are some that had issues. which is expected with any device.
If Google themselves found Asus to be competent enough to build their very first Nexus tablet, that shows Google has extreme confidence in Asus. I'm not worried. I had a satisfying experience with my first ASUS product, which is the Transformer Prime. Been loving it ever since last Dec. since it was so good, I will go with Asus again on the 16gb Nexus tablet I pre ordered already. I have no doubts new Nexus 7 will be a hit. Reviewers already said the build quality is superb and feels high end. then we know the software and chipset flies on this 7in.
all reviewers so far said this device feels and performs like a high end one. even the display is really good with high dpi count.

clandest said:
Will saying that I will only buy nexus phones tell you anything about 'quality'?
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Of course not, but these being branded as Nexus and GOOG using multiple manufacturers when they release these devices, you as an owner of these various products would be able to pin point about "quality" - or the differentiator from other products (apart from pure GOOG experience)?
No?

hashibahoohaa said:
Of course not, but these being branded as Nexus and GOOG using multiple manufacturers when they release these devices, you as an owner of these various products would be able to pin point about "quality" - or the differentiator from other products (apart from pure GOOG experience)?
No?
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Any Nexus product, google works closely with the manufacture (supposedly), to give the best android experience. All my Nexus devices have worked how they should, and have been very pleased with the build quality, looks, and functionality. BUT like you said that's all subjective.
So really, the only quality you can probably go off of, is...... Nexus is what Google themselves use to develop and further the android platform..

This is tough. I own the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, and Asus Transformer Prime.
The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were both made by Samsung, and I feel the quality of both of them were GREAT. Some complained they felt a little "plasticky," but I had no hardware problems at all with either.
The Prime...well....how do I put this....let me try it this way:
WORST. ELECTRONIC PURCHASE. OF. MY LIFE.
The problems in design (GPS didn't work b/c of the metal back and their "fix" was to remove GPS as a feature - the WiFi performance is also terrible), the low-quality hardware used (plenty of crappy displays with light bleed, LCD mura, and dead/stuck pixels), and the piss poor service (updates keep fixing one issue and breaking 3 others, RMA process that screws customers) have all left an incredibly sour taste in my mouth.
With that said, Google will be supporting this device, not Asus, so my service complaints mean nothing in regards to the Nexus 7. And I would hope that since this is Google's baby, they're keeping a close eye on it and Asus won't have a garbage design and garbage parts as a result, but we shall see.

I've had all the Google Experience Devices + all Nexus phones, build quality ranges by company. The reviews are good and Asus has been making some quality stuff as others have already mentioned.

rmm200 said:
Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
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This right here. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus has been great. Personally being an owner of a 201 with issues (Dead GPS , wifi/BT issues), I'm going to wait on the Asus Nexus.. their brand is tarnished to me with what I've went through with them.

My Nexus S was a phenomenal device. I loved that damn phone. I plan on going back to a Nexus phone when the next gen model comes out.
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NeoMagus said:
This right here. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus has been great. Personally being an owner of a 201 with issues (Dead GPS , wifi/BT issues), I'm going to wait on the Asus Nexus.. their brand is tarnished to me with what I've went through with them.
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It was all because of a design decision.
I had a 201 for about a week. It didn't have all those problems. My GPS would lock 11 birds if I was outside. I had decent wifi. I just couldn't stomach their repsonse to real problems. If they had just put an RF window on the back like the infinity pad, it wouldn't have had any issues. Since it was a one piece stamped frame/back cutting and making new parts would have cost too much.

I doubt if any manufacturer will put a metal back on a tablet again.
Asus sure seems to have learned with the RF-transparent back on the Nexus 7.

jptech said:
It was all because of a design decision.
I had a 201 for about a week. It didn't have all those problems. My GPS would lock 11 birds if I was outside. I had decent wifi. I just couldn't stomach their repsonse to real problems. If they had just put an RF window on the back like the infinity pad, it wouldn't have had any issues. Since it was a one piece stamped frame/back cutting and making new parts would have cost too much.
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I know all this already. The design decision doesn't bother me, in fact I bought it partly because of the looks. My problem is with the tablet not functioning 100% the way its supposed to compared to my other Android devices.
As for the company in general, don't even get me started, If it wasn't for me starting and maintaining a list and then sending it to the Asus product managers that check the 201 forums (and a certain user who has their ear who posted in here earlier) , at least 75 users including myself would probably still be waiting for our GPS extension kits when we signed up the first day, you can do a search of posts I created if you're interested in that whole debacle.
Main point I'm trying to make in a thread about quality, when I spend my money on a product I expect it to work. And my experience with their products has been far from what it is with my other devices.

NeoMagus said:
I know all this already. The design decision doesn't bother me, in fact I bought it partly because of the looks. My problem is with the tablet not functioning 100% the way its supposed to compared to my other Android devices.
As for the company in general, don't even get me started, If it wasn't for me starting and maintaining a list and then sending it to the Asus product managers that check the 201 forums (and a certain user who has their ear who posted in here earlier) , at least 75 users including myself would probably still be waiting for our GPS extension kits when we signed up the first day, you can do a search of posts I created if you're interested in that whole debacle.
Main point I'm trying to make in a thread about quality, when I spend my money on a product I expect it to work. And my experience with their products has been far from what it is with my other devices.
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I think you're being way too hard on Asus. Whether you believe it or not, they make amazing products. Their laptops are typically top of the line while also being cheaper than most of the competition and usually better. The original Transformer was the best tablet on the market until this year. Asus is a wonderful company. So they messed up with one device? Apparently they did try to fix it. They issued the GPS dongles to help fix the issue and apologized for the mess they created. And all I've heard from others is that they have fantastic customer service.
I'm glad that Google chose Asus to make the Nexus 7. They really were the most qualified. The original Transformer was easily the best last-generation tablet and the Infinity will be the best current-generation tablet. Google made a great choice.

jtc276 said:
I think you're being way too hard on Asus. Whether you believe it or not, they make amazing products.
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Well you spend $500+ on a tablet that performs worse than my dual core devices, and deal with the problems with Asus that I have and you would probably see it differently. Sure there are those who have had positive experiences, but I know I'm not the only one with my views, just spend a little time in the other forums. In the end the choice is yours.
If I had it to do all over again, would I rather spend $250 on an N7 than $650 on my 201 and dock? Absolutely.

MaxCarnage said:
My Nexus S was a phenomenal device. I loved that damn phone. I plan on going back to a Nexus phone when the next gen model comes out.
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I agree. I am patiently awaiting the next Nexus phone.
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@#&$ Motorola

NeoMagus said:
Well you spend $500+ on a tablet that performs worse than my dual core devices, and deal with the problems with Asus that I have and you would probably see it differently. Sure there are those who have had positive experiences, but I know I'm not the only one with my views, just spend a little time in the other forums. In the end the choice is yours.
If I had it to do all over again, would I rather spend $250 on an N7 than $650 on my 201 and dock? Absolutely.
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Oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be mad. If I were you, I would be too. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bash the whole company and their products for the one faulty one that you happen to own.

jtc276 said:
Oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be mad. If I were you, I would be too. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bash the whole company and their products for the one faulty one that you happen to own.
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Hah, if you would have actually read my post you would see I'm not "bashing" them on the device alone, but their service I recieved with the product as well. It shouldn't take me over a month to get into contact with someone to fix an issue... Again, you have your views, and I have mine... and I'm simply sharing my experience with the only Asus product I've wasted my money on so others can decide whether Asus quality is something they should spend their hard earned money on.
I'm really not trying to turn this thread into a pissing match. If you like Asus, and have had a good experience with them, that's awesome. I have not. And as much as I want to jump on an N7, the manufacturer Google went with more than likely cost them my sale as well as others who feel the same way I do. Honestly if you don't like my opinion, just add me to your ignore list.

NeoMagus said:
Hah, if you would have actually read my post you would see I'm not "bashing" them on the device alone, but their service I recieved with the product as well. It shouldn't take me over a month to get into contact with someone to fix an issue... Again, you have your views, and I have mine... and I'm simply sharing my experience with the only Asus product I've wasted my money on so others can decide whether Asus quality is something they should spend their hard earned money on.
I'm really not trying to turn this thread into a pissing match. If you like Asus, and have had a good experience with them, that's awesome. I have not. And as much as I want to jump on an N7, the manufacturer Google went with more than likely cost them my sale as well as others who feel the same way I do. Honestly if you don't like my opinion, just add me to your ignore list.
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I definitely wasn't trying to start a pissing match, so I'm sorry if it seemed like I was. I'm just saying that out of all the Asus products I have heard of and/or actually used, the Prime is the only device than anyone has had a massive amount of trouble with. Otherwise, their track record is pretty much flawless.

I think for me the real selling point of this tablet is the Google name and the high visibility of the N7 launch as their entrance into the tablet market. The Nexus line is the flagship for Google and I've only ever heard good reviews from friends who own them.
I've owned devices with user bases too small to force a response on hardware issues and that's not going to be an issue here. If there is some sort of hardware or software fault, it's going to get publicity and it's going to get fixed.

A worthy Successor to the Nexus 5

Note: I apologise if this isn't the appropriate section but I couldn't think of a better one than the N5 General forum. English isn't my native language and although I proof read the post several times it's still going to be fairly awkward.
The Nexus 4 and 5* were high end devices with unlocked bootloaders, direct support from Google, large communities and they were sold at a very affordable price off-contract.
The Nexus 6 is a high end device with an (supposedly) unlocked bootloader, direct support from Google, a large community...
...but it costs 300€ more. That's 380 US dollars. Oh and it's also a 6 inch phablet. Both ensures that the N6 isn't an option for a lot of people, myself included.
I came to the conclusion the N5 doesn't actually have a successor.
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months and I don't know what to get. There are the usual suspects from Samsung, HTC, LG and all the other brands but they aren't the same as the Nexus. They all miss the extremely clean Android experience. Even the N5's design is very modest (something I'm missing in the Nexus 6). The software is arguably worse, they don't get direct updates and they probably have a smaller dev community too. They all are much more expensive than the Nexus 5 was in 2013.
The OnePlus One still hasn't been launched yet and I would prefer a phone from one of the known brands.
Can I hope for a Nexus 5 (2014)?
And if I don't: Is there even a spiritual successor to the Nexus line of smartphones?
*You may argue with battery life and camera but they were still extremely competitive when they were released.

the moto X 2014 developer's edition
thank me later.....

Why do you "need" a new phone? I'm only getting the nexus 6 because I'm a nexus fan boy. If they said oh were nut making a new nexus I would be totally fine with the nexus 5 for another year. It's still blazing fast. Even faster with lollipop.
If I was too get a new phone right now and I didn't get a nexus it would be a don't z3 or z3 compact.

Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet

aletto said:
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months
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Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:

Buy the Nexus 5 in a different color once Android L come out.
Bam, you've got yourself a new phone.

In my opinion, there is no worthy successor to the N5 yet.
Maybe next year. A Nexus 5 (2015) with Snapdragon 810, Good 13MP Camera with Sony Exmor sensor and Xenon flash, 4GB RAM, 1080p IPS Display, Good build quality (metal frame), 3200mAh battery and Android M ...that would be a good successor.
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Yakandu said:
Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.

Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal

CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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64 bits wont be any faster than 32, same as PC.

CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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How is the general responsiveness of the 1+1 compared to N5? We all love the N5 for its buttery smooth performance and huge dev support. Is that also there on the 1+1? Thanks.

Primokorn said:
Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?

aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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Atomix86 said:
You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...

arnaud39 said:
Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested

aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they don't need it.
aletto said:
What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Giving a N5 to your mother isn't a good idea I think. If you don't have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a 'better phone'.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.

KingDani1997 said:
Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
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Here is thz link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/official-poll-mugen-extended-internal-t2542589

Primokorn said:
Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they dont need it.
Giving a N5 to your mother isnt a good idea I think. If you dont have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a better phone.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.

aletto said:
Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
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Get her a Moto G instead. The 2014 edition is similar in size to the N5, and the lesser SoC feels snappy for just about everything besides gaming. Games will still run fine just not at quite the same level as the N5.
It's about $200 USD off contract and comes unlocked if bought direct from Motorola.

waa.. stop crying. the nexus one, nexus s, and the gnex were all more expensive. only the n4 and n5 were less. just because the n6 is bigger and cost more, then its not a replacement? deal with it or don't buy the next nexus. me, I'm always a nexus *****, so I'll get the n6 no matter what, as it IS the next nexus replacement.

Next phone Opinion, no Hate needed

Hey guys,
I've been an Android guy since the Desire HD days, (2010), but before that I had an iPhone. My switch to Android was mainly for the freedom of thinkering, customizing things to my needs and because by that time, devices where usually cheaper.
I have been seriously considering switching back to iPhone, (6s+) specifically, as I feel that in the last years iOS has advanced, as well as Android, greatly.
I buy Nexus devices for the clean Google Android experience, and fast transparent updates with no carrier OEM interaction.
This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?

My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.

NLBeev said:
My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.
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Thanks for the reply, though it seems that the price difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
Honestly not a huge difference, more so when you take in to account that iPhones tend to resale for more (at least here in the states)
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jibust said:
This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?
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It has been, but this fall is not good for updates, or for judging by updates:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/ios-10-update-bricked-my-iphone/

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.....difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.

Maybe you need a brief break from Android, as i might it is really a personal decision versus specs.

In my opinion, it isn't such a great time to upgrade yet, I honestly wanted to upgrade to the OnePlus 3 but alas, it's GSM only so its bands don't support Verizon. Then I was looking towards the Galaxy Note 7 and was thinking about upgrading, but then the whole battery explosion fiasco happened. Now the iPhone 7 came out and I wasn't amazed one bit. Keep in mind I used to have iPhones since the 3G lineup, but the customization capabilities were so stale and weak so I switched over to Android on the Galaxy S5, never looked back.
If I am to upgrade anytime this year it's going to have to be a "Pixel" device and they're going to have to wow me, otherwise I think I'll hang onto my N6 for another year, still an amazing device

I wouldn't get the 6p, since it is snapdragon 810. Frankly, the 6's 805 is a better chip.
Not sure the reason for the panic about the update, it has only been a few days. They've been adding one device at a time, presumably to let the dust settle on the latest device before moving on to the next one. 6p was the most recent to get the update, only one remaining now is the 6.
The next ones (named pixel instead of nexus?) will be snapdragon 820 or 821, which is finally a good 64bit chip from QC.

IMO the ZTE Axon 7 is the best bang for the buck right now. Flagship specs and all the latest features for $400. You could sell your Nexus 6 for $150-$200 to help offset the cost.

Thanks for the input everyone.
Gave my wife's 6s+ a spin, and it would be a pretty big change. Going to think about it for a while and see. Depending on the Pixel lineup I will choose.
Thanks again!

The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.

I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.

NLBeev said:
Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol

chapelfreak said:
The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/

DogzOfWar said:
The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.
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Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
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I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.
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Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
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Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/
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Lol

jibust said:
Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
Lol
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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.

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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.
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Well I believe that it depends on the person, I can use a phone without case and it won't have issues, still I use a pretty slim one that provide very little protection.
My wife on the other hand, needs to have her phone encased in an almost military grade cover, my kid the same.
There are just people who take a little bit more care of their phones, or just give it a lot more value, for others it's just another tool so if it falls it falls.

I had the note 7. I tried to like it. I like the camera a lot. But I'm sitting at best buy right now returning the note 7. I knew going into the note 7 that TW was a memory hog but I tried to like it. After using it for a couple of weeks and used my N6 again, I couldn't believe how much quicker everything felt. So here I am, back to the N6, I'll be on the look out for the pixel phones.

Since price and OEM practices of apple arent an issue for you, get an iphone.
iphones are targeted at a specific demographic and it seems you are part of it.

Gonna resurrect this thread since the Pixel phones just came out. I honestly do not find the Pixel (reg and XL) appealing.
I used a co-workers S6 Edge, and I have to admit, it was pretty nice. I would actually go for the Note 7 since I like the bigger screen (yes, explosion, yes fire, just saying).
Any recommendations?

should i buy a one plus 3t? or wait for 5?

are you guys enjoying the 3t? worth every penny? will u upgrade to the next one plus this year? is it worth waiting?

As long as they continue to update the 3t the way they are, I'll be keeping mine for a while. Phone works great, looks great and I'm experiencing great battery life on the stock rom

I'm simply in love with mine. It has AMOLED display, hardware that secures future, good camera.
This can be told about many phones, but... Do they have so frequent software updates? Beta twice a month! Actually, developers are listening to people's opinions (obviously can't listen to everyone).
From what I've seen, many people who changed their phones from s7e/nexus to OP3T are really content with it.
Battery life is another great thing, it easily goes through a day and charges so quickly!

If you don't need a new phone urgently, you might as well wait for the next OnePlus phone. As much as we don't want to face it, OnePlus is likely going to put development for the 3/3T on the back-burner once the next generation of phones are released (looking at you, OP2). That said, the OP3/T is certainly an excellent device and worth its current price.

yeah its a killer phone. id get one. just did in fact.
Brian

I upgraded from the S7 edge to the 3t (like 2weeks ago) and I love this phone. Way ahead of the game, not a single particle of lag. That said, I will probably upgrade once the 5 comes out; as I love having the latest tech, but yeah. Getting this phone right now was worth it for me.

Upgraded from 6p and really like it!,
Just 2 features i really miss front stereo speakers and camera everything else is perfect for me

Best supported phone ive ever owned. Even with the nexus one, support from google still doesnt compare to oneplus.
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If you don't need a new phone urgently, you might as well wait for the next OnePlus phone. As much as we don't want to face it, OnePlus is likely going to put development for the 3/3T on the back-burner once the next generation of phones are released (looking at you, OP2). That said, the OP3/T is certainly an excellent device and worth its current price.
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Is that whats happened to oneplus 1 and 2?

Uhm, no idea.
I justified spending 400+ EUR on the 3T, because I thought at the time that I'm going to keep it for at least two years. And now I'm tempted to upgrade to the 5, because fsck yeah, this phone is awesome, can't wait for the next model. I'll just give this to someone in the family.

I looked to upgrade to something else but seriously - there's nothing else out there. It's at the top of it's game. Get it now, or if not in hurry for a few months. Wait.

Rumor
There is a rumor on OP 5 that it has a ceramic/glass back. Well if you don't wanna break it then...
Nothing official so.....
I still love the block type metal of the OP 3T so it is my ideal choice

When does one plus release its device?. Is it in August?..

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When does one plus release its device?. Is it in August?..
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It's all just rumor at this point. No announcement yet. And manufacturers usually don't tip their hand too early. Doing so would not only potentially damage the sales of the current device, but also may give their competition an edge.
I've seen some stories around that state that Samsung is buying up all the Snapdragon 835 supply. And being the Android market juggernaut, most (all?) other manufacturers are going to have to wait to get the 835. This alone may cause OnePlus to delay a launch.

The OP3T is amazing and I think OP5 will be even more. If you aren't in a hurry, would be nice to wait.

OP3t is a great device. Even if OP stops updates at nougat, the dev support will continue.
Look at the OPO, it has perfect nougat ROMs that are current. The OP3t will continue on with devs, cause it's a solid built device (as was the OPO). The OP2 had no nfc and the crap 810 cpu, and still solid on dev support.

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I upgraded from the S7 edge to the 3t (like 2weeks ago) and I love this phone. Way ahead of the game, not a single particle of lag. That said, I will probably upgrade once the 5 comes out; as I love having the latest tech, but yeah. Getting this phone right now was worth it for me.
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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I understand you haha. I was a little worried myself, as a lot of people hyped it "down" .
Honestly, Samsung has the best screens any phone manufacturer can have. Comparing both, I noticed that the colors looked better on the S7 edge, and that the S7's screen gets brighter. Are those deal breakers? Absolutely not. The screen is great and 1440 p is not different compared to 1080p .
It'll definitely take the screen downgrade for a absolutely lagfree device. It's been almost 2 weeks and not a single app, or animation has lagged. Also battery life is great. Damn I still feel like I'm not using this device to its full capabilities lol

With how things are going, they seem to have found the hardware they really love, so they're developing their software now. I think they want to love their software as much as their hardware, so they may be sticking with the 3t. Look how many special editions are coming out, they got an otterbox deal and they acrually ship on time now.

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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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If you want to use some vr hardware, then yes, 4k is better. Otherwise 1080p is faster to drive, and uses less power. So it's a trade-off.

I would get it definitely. Well i already did actually. Great phone I love it definitely worth the money and had a great supporting dev community. And if your worried about oneplus stopping updates it's no big deal cause there a lots of custom roms for this phone and there is a great community surrounding it.

Note 8 to V30?

Hey guys, I have been using the Note 8 for 6 months now and I like the phone over all. Few things I am not finding very comfortable are it's size and the weight. And in general gotten a bit bored of the phone. So, I had been to a local store yesterday and saw the V30 here in India. And I must say I really liked it. The design, the display, the form factor and over all appeal of the phone was really good. The only poor thing was it's front camera. But I am not selfie person so I can live with it. But the wide angle rear camera is dope. I hardly use the portrait mode on the Note 8. But I used to take lot of fun pictures with my G6. So I am thinking of switching to the V30. Has anyone here done it? Or own both the phones? Need some honest opinions

If you are just EVEN considering this, my advice is that you should do it, in my case I would NEVER consider using anything less than a samsung galaxy note series device, for me, it is all about the S PEN, the most unique feature among all other devices, what makes the note series devices stand out, you see, anybody who gets a note device should consider the s pen as the #1 reason, if not, the S+ series would be the logical choice, or other good real flagship for that matter, (LG, sony, apple, google, etc)

Haha. Thanks for the advice. I haven't been able to use anything other than Samsung phones in the last 4 years. And one Major reson for that has been the display and to an extent camera. I love the Note 8 and would have not thought of switching, had I not seen the V30. The V30 is much more comfortable in the hand because of its size, weight and form factor. Also, the POLED screen is so much more better than their old LCD displays. And I even compared the Note 8 to the V30 and to my surprise I sort of liked the V30 better. And even while playing those large 4K videos, the V30 was stutter free while my Note 8 clearly was not as smooth. Nevertheless, I am still super confused, as i fear that i might regret my decision later. I have spent a lot of money on the insurance and on the original Samsung case and resale value is bad here in India. But my gut feeling is to still go ahead and try the V30
Well, I thought I will be using the S pen a lot, but unfortunately dint use it after the first few weeks.

I agree, if that's how you feel go for it. Even if someone tries to convince you not to, you already have the thought & may not agree. But if someone tells you reasons why you should you'll probably agree because you have that thought already. People look for assurance to make big decisions, it's human nature. But this decision is yours, it's your personal preference, everyone is different & nothing wrong with that.
My past 2 phones were Notes, I'm a big fan of the SPen. I'm always up for change & consider others. I do look at phones other than Samsung whenever I get a new one. But LG is not one of them. I'm personally not a fan of any of their products except my room AC is LG, their phones & TVs, they never catch my eye. Quality & features seem lacking to me. Maybe part of it is the experience with them that I saw when I worked in OEM electronic repair. We always said that LG stood for Low Grade. Haha
It sounds like you are the type to get bored of phones & need to change often. In the US for T-Mobile we have a Jump On Demand program where after 18 months or something like that you can trade in your phone for some new model. Great for people who like to have the latest & greatest. Do they offer anything like that where you are? It will help your wallet to switch phones often.

Hahaha. I understand you. For me, LG has always been that brand which has come very close to replacing my Samsung phones But never succeeded. I have an LG 4K tv which I absolutely love. As far as the decision of buying the V30, I haven't made up my mind completely yet. I wanted to know from someone who has used both and if they had a strong reason not to switch from the Note 8, apart from its S pen feature of course. I am still in 2 minds actually, since I will be wasting a lot of money and Also, if I regret the decision later, I will definitely not be able to spend more to get back to the Note 8 for now. Haha.
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I agree, if that's how you feel go for it. Even if someone tries to convince you not to, you already have the thought & may not agree. But if someone tells you reasons why you should you'll probably agree because you have that thought already. People look for assurance to make big decisions, it's human nature. But this decisi9n is yours, it's your personal preference, everyone is different & nothing wrong with that.
My past 2 phones were Notes, I'm a big fan of the SPen. I'm always up for change & consider others. I do look at phones other than Samsung whenever I get a new one. But LG is not one of them. I'm personally not a fan of any of their products except my room AC is LG, their phones & TVs, they never catch my eye. Quality & features seem lacking to me. Maybe part of it is the experience with them that I saw when I worked in OEM electronic repair. We always said that LG stood for Low Grade. Haha
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It sounds like you are the type to get bored of phones & need to change often. In the US for T-Mobile we have a Jump On Demand program where after 18 months or something like that you can trade in your phone for some new model. Great for people who like to have the latest & greatest. Do they offer anything like that where you are? It will help your wallet to switch phones often.
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Hahahaha. Absolutely!! You got me. I am that kind of person who get bored with phones very often. And unfortunately here in India we don't have such schemes. What a shame!!

To be fair I've never played with a LG TV so I can't really say I don't like them. LG crossed my mind before buying the Note 8. Then I decided to buy an Exynos Note 8 cause I can't live without custom recovery & root cause we only have Snapdragon in the US. But then again if it comes to the day when that's not an option I may switch from Samsung even if not available on other OEMs. There are some Huawei phones that seem nice, I think they will be a great competitor in due time if not already.
That sucks that resale value is low where you are. How about selling on ebay? I've never sold my old phones. Luckily I'm not the type to upgrade phones every year, that would definitely not be good for my wallet as flagship phones cost way too much these days.

Unfortunately, It's all the same here whether you sell it on eBay or any other platform. Nevertheless, i might not buy the V30 if i dont sell my Note 8 for a decent price. Lets see
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To be fair I've never played with a LG TV so I can't really say I don't like them. LG crossed my mind before buying the Note 8. Then I decided to buy an Exynos Note 8 cause I can't live without custom recovery & root cause we only have Snapdragon in the US. But then again if it comes to the day when that's not an option I may switch from Samsung even if not available on other OEMs. There are some Huawei phones that seem nice, I think they will be a great competitor in due time if not already.
That sucks that resale value is low where you are. How about selling on ebay? I've never sold my old phones. Luckily I'm not the type to upgrade phones every year, that would definitely not be good for my wallet as flagship phones cost way too much these days.
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Hahahaha. Absolutely!! You got me. I am that kind of person who get bored with phones very often. And unfortunately here in India we don't have such schemes. What a shame!!
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Actually on Jump on Demand in teh US, you can trade for other new flagship devices several times a year - the 18 months is the lease term.
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OP do as you please. Your money and your choice. V30 excellent phone. LG blows away EVERY phone in audio away. The new LG V30 coming out soon. The LG V30 ThinQ? LG sales have been pretty bad. So now they do slight upgrade from last year flagship huh? Even the new V30 only thing it has over Note 8 is better chip and audio.
Regular V30 only had better audio then Note 8. I do agree V30 looks better. The curved screen is worthless. I'd still take Note 8 over V30. I use to be a die hard LG fan. If you do rock LG stick with V series! There other phones have crap build quality.
Worst build quality I've ever dealt with. Stick to V20, V30, V? Etc.
Even the V series is slightly risky according to some and this lawsuit below. Sales have been so bad rumors that LG canned LG G7. Kinda concerning to invest in a company like that? LG made Pixel 2 screens which is having a bad time with screens.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th.../17048574/lg-v30s-price-release-date-mwc-2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/lg-bootloop-lawsuit-settlement-backtrack/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...s-reportedly-scrapped-the-upcoming-lg-g7/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...6889854/pixel-2-xl-lg-display-oled-blue-shift

So, i could finally come to a decision after i went back to the store again today and played with the V30 for good amount of time. Well, i did one important thing before going to the store, which is, replaced my Note 8 official protective standing case with a local 360 degree case. This had already made a lot of difference in how i felt the Note 8 in the hand. So, while i was checking out the V30 today at the store, i did all the possible tests on how better or worse the screen is compared to the Note 8 and how good or bad the camera is and over all how the feel of holding it is, against the Note 8. But when i finally started typing on the V30, trust me, it literally felt like a toy. I had not felt that way until that moment. I immediately went back to my Note 8 and typed on it and i knew i had the better phone with me. Also, like i said, i had changed the case to a much lighter one which had already made the difference. But when i did try typing on the V30, i knew why i had paid those extra dollars for the Note 8. Happily came back home and not going to probably check any other phones until the Note 9 or Pixel 3 XL comes out. Thanks again for all the responses. My Note is here to Stay for longer
Edit: Changing the case to a lighter one would have made it more vulnerable to breaking, but hey, what is the insurance for after all?

Good decision

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So, i could finally come to a decision after i went back to the store again today and played with the V30 for good amount of time. Well, i did one important thing before going to the store, which is, replaced my Note 8 official protective standing case with a local 360 degree case. This had already made a lot of difference in how i felt the Note 8 in the hand. So, while i was checking out the V30 today at the store, i did all the possible tests on how better or worse the screen is compared to the Note 8 and how good or bad the camera is and over all how the feel of holding it is, against the Note 8. But when i finally started typing on the V30, trust me, it literally felt like a toy. I had not felt that way until that moment. I immediately went back to my Note 8 and typed on it and i knew i had the better phone with me. Also, like i said, i had changed the case to a much lighter one which had already made the difference. But when i did try typing on the V30, i knew why i had paid those extra dollars for the Note 8. Happily came back home and not going to probably check any other phones until the Note 9 or Pixel 3 XL comes out. Thanks again for all the responses. My Note is here to Stay for longer
Edit: Changing the case to a lighter one would have made it more vulnerable to breaking, but hey, what is the insurance for after all?
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Good choice you won't regret it. Idk man the rumors so far with Note 9 and Pixel 3 Xl, nothing to write home about. Note 10/ Samsung X/ Pixel 4 XL= True Upgrade.

Nick216ohio said:
Good choice you won't regret it. Idk man the rumors so far with Note 9 and Pixel 3 Xl, nothing to write home about. Note 10/ Samsung X/ Pixel 4 XL= True Upgrade.
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That's why I don't bother upgrading every year, waste of money IMO. Usually need 2 generations to see worthy differences. Same with Android versions, need to 2 letter versions to see noticeable differences. That's why I don't understand why everyone was so anxious to get Oreo. Now that it's here, nothing exciting about it & different than all the past Oreo reviews.

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That's why I don't bother upgrading every year, waste of money IMO. Usually need 2 generations to see worthy differences. Same with Android versions, need to 2 letter versions to see noticeable differences. That's why I don't understand why everyone was so anxious to get Oreo. Now that it's here, nothing exciting about it & different than all the past Oreo reviews.
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Agreed 100%. 1k a year for a phone? No thanks. $500 not to bad. Yeah Oreo doesn't seem much different. We should get Android P, but that will be a while. Like you pointed out usually takes 2 generations to see a worthy difference. In regards to new features and better specs. Some people want newest phone though. For those people do as you will. Others that on the fence really read into what we're saying.