Receive pictures with cellular data turned off? - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks, sorry to ask what's probably a really noobish question. I'm on AT&T and I usually like to keep my celluar data off due to being on the lowest plan. The only time I ever have to turn it on is to receive picture messages. Is there any way around this? I became accustomed to it with my WP7 device, and now I'm on the Lumia 920.

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I have searched the forum and I keep finding sources that say you have to have data plan and use the e-mail function in order to send pictures. Am I missing something or is the TILT capable of sending picture texts? It seems sort of ridiculous for such an expensive phone to not have such a basic capability. Sorry if this is a retarded question but I cant seem to find the answer on the forum.
jwu222 said:
I have searched the forum and I keep finding sources that say you have to have data plan and use the e-mail function in order to send pictures. Am I missing something or is the TILT capable of sending picture texts? It seems sort of ridiculous for such an expensive phone to not have such a basic capability. Sorry if this is a retarded question but I cant seem to find the answer on the forum.
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You don't need a data plan to send MMS. aka Picture text.
but it does access media net to send MMS if im not mistaken, so its not free, at least thats what Cingular reps say...LOL
alright i feel dumb asking this question but the only way i can seem to send a picture is through e-mail. how exactly do you send the picture text? i dont see the option through the texting
^ Messages>Menu>New>Multimedia Message
all hail strike one
i now feel at least 50% stupider than before because that was pretty obvious. thanks a lot strikeone
Keep one thing in mind when using MMS. Pictures & text cannot exceed 600k. It has something to do with AT&T's OTA servers or something.
to vampire2800
so i tried to send the picture text and it seemed that i had to connect to the gsm network in order to send it. i have picture text in my plan but no data plan, is there any way i can do this for free without having to get on the network?
It will temporarily connect to Media Net. Don't worry, as soon as it's finished sending/recieving it will disconnect. If you have a picture messaging package, then any picture message less that 600k is free for you, unless it's sent to someone not on AT&T. I've been doing it for years & trust me, I don't get billed for internet usage. I promise!
thanks again vamp!
No problem, bro. That's why we're here.
jwu222 said:
thanks a lot strikeone
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^ yep, no problem .
Lets put it like this. When you send a picture, you do in fact access the internet. It is called a MMS (Multi Media Message). AT&T says as long as you have a SMS plan that allows MMS to send and receive, you will not get charged. However there is a size limit of 600k. As for my tilt, I keep the internet disabled. I Am too cheap for a data plan right now. I only enable my data when I know a MMS message is coming. If you don't have an internet plan through AT&T you can have what they call pay as you go data. You get charged for the usage by KB (Kilobytes). With the tilt and how it likes to access the internet all the time, this can get pricey. Just a FYI...

AT&T Tilt Sending Delayed Texts?

Every once in awhile my texts will seem to get lost in space and not arrive at my recipients phone for sometimes a few minutes, but sometimes hours after I've sent it. It *seems* to happen more at night, but that could be because I only get into longer texting conversations at night. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I'm still trying to figure out whether it's a problem with my ROM, my radio, my phone or AT&T.
Has anyone had any problems like this? I'm hoping it's AT&T since I've used many different ROMs, radios and recently got my phone replaced under warranty, but I'd still like to find out.
i doubt this has anything to do with the phone itself and more the network you are on...
You can always update your roaming settings with *662 on ATT I think that helped my problem with MMS getting sent in a timely manner
OnebadMF said:
i doubt this has anything to do with the phone itself and more the network you are on...
You can always update your roaming settings with *662 on ATT I think that helped my problem with MMS getting sent in a timely manner
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Could you elaborate on this? Do I just dial *662 ?
Its the network, and believe me its being worked on.
Im not sure its *662... Any ATT store should be able to tell you...
KD8DNS- You know its the network? Is it just an ATT thing?
OnebadMF said:
Im not sure its *662... Any ATT store should be able to tell you...
KD8DNS- You know its the network? Is it just an ATT thing?
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Its a ATT situation that is being worked out. You dont have to believe what I say, but you can take it to the bank.
KD8DNS is 100% right I have already talked to AT&T about this and it's not your PDA I've had the same problem with my Razr and several other phones. Every so often I will have a delay in voicemails arriving as well but not real often.
same problem here too. hopefully they work it out soon
tjs98gt said:
same problem here too. hopefully they work it out soon
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They are, I see it first hand.
KD8DNS I believe you 100%, but I'm of course obligated to ask the question-- how well is it being worked on? As in, when can people stop yelling at me for responding like 3 hours late to their texts?
met3ora said:
KD8DNS I believe you 100%, but I'm of course obligated to ask the question-- how well is it being worked on? As in, when can people stop yelling at me for responding like 3 hours late to their texts?
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1. The tech's are most likely upgrading a tower around you or building one, when I say upgrading I mean 3G. Now when this is done they have to intergrate the new tower/technology into the network so the "hand-off" works. Usually the tower/towers in the area have certain features shut off so network intergration goes without fail. This can take time, and usually takes place at night when there is less network activity. Also the time the features of the tower are shut off like sms, they are being received by the tower and stored, then when the tower is turned back on they get sent.
2. "how well is it being worked on?" I wouldn't have a job if it wasn't
3. Just tell the people what is going on. As for anything that is being developed or upgraded, there is an initial downside.
met3ora-----pm me the city you live/use your phone and ill find out whats going on.
Well, that would explain it pretty nicely and I'm actually kinda mad I didn't think of it! I go to Purdue University, so out here in West Lafayette, Indiana we got 3G pretty recently, I wanna say maybe 3 weeks ago. I really hope AT&T hurries up and gets the towers working correctly (not to yell at you, of course KD8DNS). But the thing that worried me was that I was in Chicago and I was still having this problem. My friends would tell me they only received page 1 of 2 of my texts, some would come through later and some would come throug on time.
I live in Phoenix and have 3G just about everywhere in town no problem, but this explains weird SMS problems at night
when I was in the US last week, I had to use the AT&T network and holy ****, the delays in the messages were horrible. Sometimes my wife wouldn't get them for hours....When I changed it to T-Mobile, at least she got them within a minutes or two...Don't know what carrier I am going to use when I come back to the US....
The other option is try a new sim card, i know it sounds like the typical att b.s. story, but it could help, any ATT corporate store will do this free of charge. Also if you go into a new area like another state. Try resetting your device "power cycle" that will d/l all the up to date provisioning from the tower to your device.
The other idea i just had, is you might have the wrong sms gateway number, this you would have to call att for because there are thousands of them and they are area specific.
KD8DNS said:
The other option is try a new sim card, i know it sounds like the typical att b.s. story, but it could help, any ATT corporate store will do this free of charge. Also if you go into a new area like another state. Try resetting your device "power cycle" that will d/l all the up to date provisioning from the tower to your device.
The other idea i just had, is you might have the wrong sms gateway number, this you would have to call att for because there are thousands of them and they are area specific.
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Does the gateway matter for both receiving and sending? Here in Central KY SMS are 15m-2h delayed every time for weeks now. We have had 3G for about a year, maybe HSUPA is in the works.
khaytsus said:
Does the gateway matter for both receiving and sending? Here in Central KY SMS are 15m-2h delayed every time for weeks now. We have had 3G for about a year, maybe HSUPA is in the works.
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Typically just receive. Also att has been upgrading the "short code" network witch also has a major part to do with send/receive txt mess. I would really suggest anyone with this problem get a new sim card.

Facebook chat option for SMS screen...does it affect your message plan

Now my assumption is that FB chat feature in Windows Phone 8 would *not* count towards your monthly text message count (on your message plan). Has anyone determined this? I looked at Microsoft's Q/A section and it doesn't specify this.
Anyone know?
I tried asking AT&T and I couldn't get an answer from them for the life of me for some reason so I kindly bowed out of the call and went here
Hi,
as far as I know, it should not affect your text messages as it uses your data connection (3G, whatever you use) or WLAN, if there is some.
regards,
Correct. It costs data, not SMS.
Always good to know!
I was surprised that I couldn't find this questions asked by anyone else when searching google or xda. 99.9% of the time when you have a question...chances are...someone else has already asked it. I can't let myself believe I was the first for this one but regardless....now there is an answer
Eh... the easy way to test is to turn off your data connection, notice that Messaging hub says it can't connect to Facebook. Turn it back on, and suddenly it can! Pretty straightforward.

Problems with text and voicemail in Japan

So I'm traveling in Japan with my N6 on Sprint and can't seem to make text or voicemail work. I keep getting alerts that I have a voicemail, as well as texts from +9479 that only say @@, and warnings that my SIM card is full, though when I click on it, the messages is empty. It's getting really annoying, especially since every time it alerts, all three of those things go off and it buzzes constantly. People seem to be able to receive my texts, but I can't get them from anyone.
Any help would be much appreciated, as Sprint customer support basically told me to Google it for an answer...
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So I'm traveling in Japan with my N6 on Sprint and can't seem to make text or voicemail work. I keep getting alerts that I have a voicemail, as well as texts from +9479 that only say @@, and warnings that my SIM card is full, though when I click on it, the messages is empty. It's getting really annoying, especially since every time it alerts, all three of those things go off and it buzzes constantly. People seem to be able to receive my texts, but I can't get them from anyone.
Any help would be much appreciated, as Sprint customer support basically told me to Google it for an answer...
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You wont be able to really do anything about it. Japan has a completely different network setup then anywhere else in the world. I would advise getting a throw away device or maybe try a local sim card. Sprint to be honest is the worst carrier out of them all in the US let alone in Japan.
Maybe it's your APN settings? Since Softbank owns Sprint I thought I remember reading Sprint postpaid plans get free roaming in Japan. But maybe I'm wrong.
Dopamin3 said:
Maybe it's your APN settings? Since Softbank owns Sprint I thought I remember reading Sprint postpaid plans get free roaming in Japan. But maybe I'm wrong.
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Anyone that uses roaming knows it really sucks. Let alone for sprint. Heck their signal sucks when it's local.

SMS Delay and Voice Failure? [Tencent Version Problems]

Please excuse me if this post is a bit off, this is the first time I have posted here.
I really didn't want to pony up the $1000 for the full version of the ROG Phone II, so I got the Tencent version. I didn't realize it had band compatibility issues with T-Mobile. After having the phone activated, I was told I probably wouldn't be able to get 4G or LTE on it. Not really the end of the world for me as I don't stream video and don't pay for lots of mobile data anyway.
Then I started to have some weird issues. I don't regularly receive SMS messages. If I do get them, they come hours or days late. Sometimes I get them instantaneously, but 2FA has been a real pain in the ass as those messages usually don't arrive. SMS from another phone pretty much never arrives.
I also don't receive phone calls. I will just get notified that I have a new voice mail and that's about it. Sometimes the phone calls go through, but I can't even estimate the failure rate on that one as I don't get allot of phone calls and most don't leave voicemails. I do get phone calls more often than I receive texts, but my wife did call me 11 times before see just got a hold of me via a non-sms messaging app.
As T-Mobile likes to relay heavily on VoLTE, and I know it doesn't work on this phone, I have tried taking it off of Wi-Fi just to see if I can get something to go through. I haven't been scientific about my testing, but I have yet to notice a difference on Wi-Fi or off.
I really don't know how to proceed about doing diagnostics on this phone. I really don't know enough about how SMS or Voice works to go forth and work it out. It is not beyond my ability to root my phone or proceed with using non-carrier distributed Android, I'm not just not certain I want to take that plunge without knowing more about what I have to do.
So here's my quandary:
Should I abandon the Tencent ROG Phone II and just sell it at a loss? Or should I troubleshoot this problem, and dive down the rabbit hole of custom Android, rooting my phone, attempting to get back VoLTE, actually getting updated to Android 10, and being able to use the LTE bands?
Thanks for reading this far. Do appreciate any help you can give.
Phone info:
ASUS ROG Phone II Tencent Version
Android 9, [email protected] #1
On T-Mobile USA
Not really sure what else to post about it.

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