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1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.
2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.
4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.
Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?
Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.
Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.
Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.
I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?
I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.
SysAdmNj said:
Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.
I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?
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Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.
CEaton said:
I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.
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attn1 said:
Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.
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I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.
2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.
4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.
Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?
Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.
Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.
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What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?
edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.
I will join you in this boycott.
I currently have an unlocked i9100 I'm using, and I was SERIOUSLY considering picking up one of these because a) I want to get on an unlimited LTE plan asap as I assume ATT being the douche-nozzles they are will surely take it away soon and b) for use as an LTE modem essentially since I have such a hard time getting data service in downtown chicago. Not anymore! (unfortunately, I also can't justify buying the skyrocket when I already have the gsII, would have been fun to have something different to play with)
I agree, this bootloader locking is BS. Samsung has phones on every carrier, none of them with locked bootloaders. Even my mom's Charge on Verizon (gag) is unlocked.
Well crap! This isn't what I'd like to have seen from you attn1, but at the same time, I'm sure you're tired of holding ppl's hand to try and root/s-off their phones w/your tool.
Le sigh, I was lookin forward to this and hopefully using another fine piece of attn1 software.
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What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?
edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.
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No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.
SysAdmNj said:
I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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I would not use LTE until it is more fully deployed anyway.
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I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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I'm not sure what connection issues you are referring to. This is the first I've heard anyone mention that.
I live in an LTE area but work in an HSPA area. No connection issues anywhere, regardless of LTE or not.
I have the SkyRocket though.
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No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.
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I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.
HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site
This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.
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I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.
HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site
This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.
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No, carriers do NOT have to agree, as evidenced by current offerings from Samsung, LG and Sony. HTC is using carriers as a excuse to do what they want anyway. Their competition is not. Regardless of who's issue it is, not buying such a device is the best course of action, and if sales are down significantly, will drive change. Even if it doesn't, anyone lurking around on XDA developers would be infinitely better off with a more open device.
I agree somewhat with you, however things to keep in mind.
1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?
2. Have you contacted HTC as of yet? I have and they said Bootloader shouldn't be locked and if it is ALL devices get an unlock code. I tried to Unlock, and given the device launched on Sunday I am not surprised.
3. HTC is not the only one locking bootloaders, Motorola is FAR WORSE.
Personally I like the phone. I do place custom roms on my devices. As a previous owner of the Droid X and Atrix, I have experienced locked bootloaders.
This phone for me is better than the SGS2. Quirks of the SGS2 Rom with Touch Wiz and not a fully functioning CM yet it wasn't good.
I'l just start off by saying I am not a developer and don't know much about bootloaders and such.. going from a Captivate to the Vivid, I already see a difference in support of development. Is it really this bad?
I'm loving the Vivid as it is, and I HATE stock ROMs, all of them. I just hope that things may change for current Vivid owners.. after all, it's only been two days.
I'm really disappointed with what I'm reading. The Vivid is my first Android device that I've purchased on AT&T, and so far it seems like a great phone. But if devs are saying the device should be boycotted, that doesn't seem like a good sign for future development support.
I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .
Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
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I had a Vibrant, and when I switched to AT&T, the Infuse was the only good phone on AT&T (I mainly did not want to give up SAMOLED).
I do not want to get another samsung phone, but if I have to get the skyrocket because of HTC's lies, I will.
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trell959 said:
I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .
Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Yeah. I mean so what if they may have been hypocritical in promising things they have yet to follow up on. At least give it some time. Something is better than nothing.
Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.
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1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?
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Not true - it may or may not void the warranty, depending on the nature of the problem. That gray area is what HTC fears will cost money. I didn't say AT&T would care about warranty. I said HTC would.
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Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.
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Recent phones from LG like the Thrill and the 2GS have been unlockable.
All the recent Samsungs are easily unlockable.
HTC already has an unlock for this device - (on Rogers) and excluded AT&T - one of their largest markets.
I have an HTC HD7 on the Bell Mobility network in Canada. I was previously a Blackberry user and made the move to a Windows Phone versus the iPhone. The HD7 I have is a used unit to bridge me (with no contract) to some of the newer phones coming out in the Fall. I am in desperate need to have a Mobile Hotspot feature similar to what I had on my Blackberry.
Appreciate your thoughts and hope someone has a solution. I'm new at this so you can safely assume I know nothing about hacking a phone.
hd7 has mobile hotspot, its in settings under internet sharing.
if you dont have it, theres probably an update for your phone.
Unfortunately the recent update did not provide me with that option. I think certain carriers turned on the feature.
I am in the same boat; Bell, HD7, no internet sharing. It seems that Bell blocked it in the 8107 update they rolled out. Also, there is no Windows Phones at all on their website anymore, with no news that they are carrying any specific ones in the future either. It looks like I will have to leave Bell and move to Telus in all likelihood.
I hope that's not the case with Bell. I moved my team to iPhones and I held back to stay with the Windows phone because of HTC and the OS which I've come to like. I'm going to unlock my phone today. want to be able to install xda files. Do you know how to do that?
I do not. I attempted to, but ran into issues with the unlocking process due to the tool I was using did not have any settings for Bell. If you have any luck, let me know please.
Surprisingly I called a bunch of folks today who said they could't unlock an HD7. Told me to go on eBay and purchase a code. I have my wireless consultant in on Tuesday to activate all the iPhones. She has some guys that will have it unlocked and I'll ask them about the XDA files.
Have to find a solution or I might have to make the switch to an iPhone. Can't believe there isn't anyone on this forum that hash't got a fix.
Hi,
Can someone confirm if the mobile hotspot feature is indeed available on the HTC hd7 from Bell.
A friend is selling a used HD7 for dirt cheap and I'm considering buy it. If it doesn't have the hotspot function, I don't want to waste my money.
Thanks in advance,
The Bell HD7 does not have the mobile hot spot. looking to get an unlocked ATT HD7 or a Titan II.
Hi there! Please let me know if this is the wrong section to post this question.
I recently purchased 2 Rogers Nokia Lumia 635 phones for my parents as their old phones were near death. I figured Windows Phone would be a good environment for them as they both have Windows 8.1 computers, and the UI is pretty straight forward. They don't need a ton of power, just something to make calls, text family, and sometimes look up a website. The 635 filled all these rolls and when they played with one in a store they seemed to understand and like it. Fast forward to today, I've tried 3 different unlock sites, I can list if needed, and none have been able to get a code for me saying one doesn't exist for the IMEIs. I called Rogers to see about their unlocking policy and they told me that to unlock the phones they would need to be active on their network for 3 months and then I'd have to pay $50 CAD to get the code. I'll be damned if I'll give them $80 CAD total per phone to unlock them in 3 months time. My parents wanted them so they could use them on vacation in Jamaica using local sim cards, and when they got back to put it on their PC Mobile accounts (pay as you go). We're now 3 days from when they leave and it seems like there 0 chance I can get it unlocked.
After that blob of context I have a few questions:
Has anyone managed to unlock the Lumia 635 on Rogers without going through Rogers?
Is this something that is common?
Why wouldn't the phone be unlockable?
If anyone could help answer these questions I would be extremely grateful as I'm completely stumped and confused as to what the core issue is. In the mean time I guess I'll try and return the phones and see if I can get the AT&T variant as those seem to be unlockable.
firrae said:
Hi there! Please let me know if this is the wrong section to post this question.
I recently purchased 2 Rogers Nokia Lumia 635 phones for my parents as their old phones were near death. I figured Windows Phone would be a good environment for them as they both have Windows 8.1 computers, and the UI is pretty straight forward. They don't need a ton of power, just something to make calls, text family, and sometimes look up a website. The 635 filled all these rolls and when they played with one in a store they seemed to understand and like it. Fast forward to today, I've tried 3 different unlock sites, I can list if needed, and none have been able to get a code for me saying one doesn't exist for the IMEIs. I called Rogers to see about their unlocking policy and they told me that to unlock the phones they would need to be active on their network for 3 months and then I'd have to pay $50 CAD to get the code. I'll be damned if I'll give them $80 CAD total per phone to unlock them in 3 months time. My parents wanted them so they could use them on vacation in Jamaica using local sim cards, and when they got back to put it on their PC Mobile accounts (pay as you go). We're now 3 days from when they leave and it seems like there 0 chance I can get it unlocked.
After that blob of context I have a few questions:
Has anyone managed to unlock the Lumia 635 on Rogers without going through Rogers?
Is this something that is common?
Why wouldn't the phone be unlockable?
If anyone could help answer these questions I would be extremely grateful as I'm completely stumped and confused as to what the core issue is. In the mean time I guess I'll try and return the phones and see if I can get the AT&T variant as those seem to be unlockable.
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unlock sides are normally people who work at a phone store or repair center , they have access to a db where the codes are stored ( every IMEI has its own unlock code)
there is a possibility that Rogers has a separate section on the db , and the unlock sides don't have access to that part.
it could be that later in time a few unlock sides can unlock them.
firrae said:
Hi there! Please let me know if this is the wrong section to post this question.
I recently purchased 2 Rogers Nokia Lumia 635 phones for my parents as their old phones were near death. I figured Windows Phone would be a good environment for them as they both have Windows 8.1 computers, and the UI is pretty straight forward. They don't need a ton of power, just something to make calls, text family, and sometimes look up a website. The 635 filled all these rolls and when they played with one in a store they seemed to understand and like it. Fast forward to today, I've tried 3 different unlock sites, I can list if needed, and none have been able to get a code for me saying one doesn't exist for the IMEIs. I called Rogers to see about their unlocking policy and they told me that to unlock the phones they would need to be active on their network for 3 months and then I'd have to pay $50 CAD to get the code. I'll be damned if I'll give them $80 CAD total per phone to unlock them in 3 months time. My parents wanted them so they could use them on vacation in Jamaica using local sim cards, and when they got back to put it on their PC Mobile accounts (pay as you go). We're now 3 days from when they leave and it seems like there 0 chance I can get it unlocked.
After that blob of context I have a few questions:
Has anyone managed to unlock the Lumia 635 on Rogers without going through Rogers?
Is this something that is common?
Why wouldn't the phone be unlockable?
If anyone could help answer these questions I would be extremely grateful as I'm completely stumped and confused as to what the core issue is. In the mean time I guess I'll try and return the phones and see if I can get the AT&T variant as those seem to be unlockable.
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As a small consolation,have you tried putting a PC Mobile SIM card into one of the 635 phones. I think PC Mobile uses Rogers Network. As the previous poster noted,the IMEI database the unlockers use most likely doesn't have the Rogers 635 IMEI numbers.
ceesheim said:
unlock sides are normally people who work at a phone store or repair center , they have access to a db where the codes are stored ( every IMEI has its own unlock code)
there is a possibility that Rogers has a separate section on the db , and the unlock sides don't have access to that part.
it could be that later in time a few unlock sides can unlock them.
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That's fair enough, we called cellunlocker (sorry if XDA doesn't want us mentioning names) and they said it may be because they are newer phones to Rogers and to try back in a couple weeks. We had to return them due to how long we had already had them for and we re-ordered more online at the same price to try again in a couple weeks. Maybe things will have changed, I'd rather buy the phone from a Canadian retailer than have to cross the border and do it.
flyjazz said:
As a small consolation,have to tried putting a PC Mobile SIM card into one of the 635 phones. I think PC Mobile uses Rogers Network. As the previous poster noted,the IMEI database the unlockers use most likely doesn't have the Rogers 635 IMEI numbers.
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Sadly they are on Bell, so any Bell/PC Mobile locked phone works, but not Rogers or Telus. We tried it anyways and go the unlock code prompt which cemented that we needed the code.
Thanks to both of you though for trying and explaining, at least I have a better picture of how it works now.
Unlocking Rogers Nokia Lumia 635...
firrae said:
After that blob of context I have a few questions:
Has anyone managed to unlock the Lumia 635 on Rogers without going through Rogers?
Is this something that is common?
Why wouldn't the phone be unlockable?
If anyone could help answer these questions I would be extremely grateful as I'm completely stumped and confused as to what the core issue is. In the mean time I guess I'll try and return the phones and see if I can get the AT&T variant as those seem to be unlockable.
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firrae,
Greetings.
I have been in the similar situation with my Rogers' PAYG kit of Nokia Lumia 635.
1. Yes... After months of searching and waiting, my unlocking source has finally found the 20-digit code and it is accepted by mine.
2. Yes... In my past experience with many Rogers' PAYG handsets, particularly Nokia brand, they are like being abandoned as is. My theory is that those stocks are originated from a clearing house which has got too many / overstock that other carriers in the US no longer want. Now, Nokia is gone with the Microsoft assimilation. Things could be even worse for record-keeping in transition. This is the administrative aspect of the issue. Even Rogers itself has a hard time to get the code, which would charge $50 plus tax after 90 days using it with an active account in good standing blah blah but ended up with code not found or invalid code. I have been there and I have to waste $$$ to top up the PAYG balance, for sufficient fund to unlock as well as keeping the account current for the sake of unlocking. But the balance snowballed without the issue being resolved. In the end, I asked the higher up at Rogers to do something: Transfer the balance to my home internet account. Technically, they credit me the same amount in my PAYG balance towards the home internet and told me to keep the PAYG account till it was lapsed in 30 days.
3. There is also a technical aspect of the issue... It is NOT "unlockable" but rather be DIFFICULT to get the code. In the past, Nokia use 15-digit unlock code which could still be possible to crack if the handsets could be JTAG for the protected memory. But another few more digits added, it will be like mining the Bitcoin! Again, it is just low priority for PAYG / low-tier handsets even now they are obligated to provide unlocking.
Anyway, I hope you have also got yours unlocked from your usual unlockers. However, if you still have not got it resolved, feel free to PM me for further details.
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firrae,
Greetings.
I have been in the similar situation with my Rogers' PAYG kit of Nokia Lumia 635.
1. Yes... After months of searching and waiting, my unlocking source has finally found the 20-digit code and it is accepted by mine.
2. Yes... In my past experience with many Rogers' PAYG handsets, particularly Nokia brand, they are like being abandoned as is. My theory is that those stocks are originated from a clearing house which has got too many / overstock that other carriers in the US no longer want. Now, Nokia is gone with the Microsoft assimilation. Things could be even worse for record-keeping in transition. This is the administrative aspect of the issue. Even Rogers itself has a hard time to get the code, which would charge $50 plus tax after 90 days using it with an active account in good standing blah blah but ended up with code not found or invalid code. I have been there and I have to waste $$$ to top up the PAYG balance, for sufficient fund to unlock as well as keeping the account current for the sake of unlocking. But the balance snowballed without the issue being resolved. In the end, I asked the higher up at Rogers to do something: Transfer the balance to my home internet account. Technically, they credit me the same amount in my PAYG balance towards the home internet and told me to keep the PAYG account till it was lapsed in 30 days.
3. There is also a technical aspect of the issue... It is NOT "unlockable" but rather be DIFFICULT to get the code. In the past, Nokia use 15-digit unlock code which could still be possible to crack if the handsets could be JTAG for the protected memory. But another few more digits added, it will be like mining the Bitcoin! Again, it is just low priority for PAYG / low-tier handsets even now they are obligated to provide unlocking.
Anyway, I hope you have also got yours unlocked from your usual unlockers. However, if you still have not got it resolved, feel free to PM me for further details.
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I managed to get a code for both the phones in the second batch I ordered and my parents are loving the phones so far, hopefully Rogers clears the Denim update at least, else I guess I'll have to read more into the ROM scene for WP.
howipig said:
firrae,
Greetings.
I have been in the similar situation with my Rogers' PAYG kit of Nokia Lumia 635.
1. Yes... After months of searching and waiting, my unlocking source has finally found the 20-digit code and it is accepted by mine.
2. Yes... In my past experience with many Rogers' PAYG handsets, particularly Nokia brand, they are like being abandoned as is. My theory is that those stocks are originated from a clearing house which has got too many / overstock that other carriers in the US no longer want. Now, Nokia is gone with the Microsoft assimilation. Things could be even worse for record-keeping in transition. This is the administrative aspect of the issue. Even Rogers itself has a hard time to get the code, which would charge $50 plus tax after 90 days using it with an active account in good standing blah blah but ended up with code not found or invalid code. I have been there and I have to waste $$$ to top up the PAYG balance, for sufficient fund to unlock as well as keeping the account current for the sake of unlocking. But the balance snowballed without the issue being resolved. In the end, I asked the higher up at Rogers to do something: Transfer the balance to my home internet account. Technically, they credit me the same amount in my PAYG balance towards the home internet and told me to keep the PAYG account till it was lapsed in 30 days.
3. There is also a technical aspect of the issue... It is NOT "unlockable" but rather be DIFFICULT to get the code. In the past, Nokia use 15-digit unlock code which could still be possible to crack if the handsets could be JTAG for the protected memory. But another few more digits added, it will be like mining the Bitcoin! Again, it is just low priority for PAYG / low-tier handsets even now they are obligated to provide unlocking.
Anyway, I hope you have also got yours unlocked from your usual unlockers. However, if you still have not got it resolved, feel free to PM me for further details.
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Can you please help me unlock my Rogers lumia 635? Ive been trying several online sources with no luck. if you could offer any advice or recommend any unlocking services i would be very grateful! thanks for your time.
I bought a phone yesterday Rogers 635 had it unlocked in less then 2 hours.
send PM if you'd like the link.
It seems to be based on when the phone was shipped? Talking to some people behind the scenes at cellunlocker they told me that there's a delay from when the phone's code is generated and when they receive them. In my case if I had waited I probably could have gotten both unlocked. Seems like it just takes time for the codes to be released by someone.
firrae said:
It seems to be based on when the phone was shipped? Talking to some people behind the scenes at cellunlocker they told me that there's a delay from when the phone's code is generated and when they receive them. In my case if I had waited I probably could have gotten both unlocked. Seems like it just takes time for the codes to be released by someone.
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AT&T variant can be unlocked for free from AT&T directly, you can find them on Amazon.com for $30-50 USD, after tax, shipping and fx convertion, we are looking at $50-70 CAD
Hi,
My brother was recently given a second-hand Lumia 625 but it is locked to a different carrier. He has asked me to help him with unlocking it because he doesn't really know anything about these things. Thing is, I have very little experience with Windows Phone. I have unlocked plenty of Android Devices in my time, but I cannot seem to find anything helpful with regards to unlocking WP devices.
I have noticed that the original carrier could possibly unlock the device if my brother asked the original owner to get them to do it, but the fee is extortionate and I am not sure they would do it if the contract is over.
So, I thought I would ask here since I know that if anybody is going to know this sort of thing it's going to be XDA Developers. Is it possible to do this? Are there any tools out there than can do it? Googling turns up very little that is useful.
pay for it
When users will understand, all lumias must be unlocked via pay-code or carrier. You can't flash or do anything about it.
Either the carrier unlocks the phone or you pay for it to an online service.
Greetings everyone!
I was going to post this in the "Ask any question" thread, but as it got longer I figured I'd make a new thread. Perhaps it will help others who are also looking to buy a Moto X.
I've been a long time considering a Moto X but I've been scared off previously by the difficulties many people seem to have with sim unlocking, bootloader unlocking, and rooting. I'm spoiled because I started with a Samsung Captivate which is unbrickable and can be coerced into running just about anything (now on CyanAOSP 4.0). Currently my main phone is a CDMA (yuck) version of the Galaxy S3 which was given to me. I'd like to go back to a GSM phone and I am again looking at the Moto X.
Given the difficulties with sim unlocking, bootloader unlocking and rooting, my questions are these:
1. Which version(s) of the phone (1058, 1060, etc) should I look at buying for ease of unlocking? I'll be using a T-Mobile (likely) or AT&T (less likely) reseller for a provider. 1058 and 1053 are obvious choices, what about others?
2. Are there versions of the phone, or versions of Android that I should avoid which may be harder to unlock and root than others?
The following are things to take into consideration when selecting a phone:
1. It has to be able to be sim unlocked.
2. I don't care about, or want OTA updates.
3. I don't care about using an older Android OS, such as 4.2.2. but I'm also not opposed to a newer OS.
4. I'd like to be able to use a custom rom, but I could live with a factory rooted rom. (This is the case with my S3)
5. I can't afford a developer edition. $100-110 ish is about my limit.
I've read it's much harder, or impossible to unlock the bootloader on a 4.4.4 phone, if I get one of them, I wouldn't mind downgrading it to 4.2.2 if it would make for an easier time unlocking the bootloader.
You might ask, what's wrong with my S3? The answer is nothing. I like it very much, but I don't like that it's CDMA. That makes it much harder to change providers (currently on Boost). Also if I happen to drop it in the toilet, I have to go without a phone until the Boost store opens, then run to them and purchase a temporary replacement. With a GSM phone, I'd just dry off the sim card and put it in my Captivate, or my Nokia feature phone, or my Sony Ericsson, etc.
Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
first 4.4.4 cant be downgrade with out significant risk, second save a little more and get the xt1053 dev edition which will answer all your questions and needs
Thanks for the reply. I will remove downgrading from the list of options and keep that in mind as I'm shopping. I would really like to have a 1053, but they seem to go for $200+, which is double what I can afford. I'm on an uber strict budget and I'm not willing to wait another three or four months. I'm likely going to ditch Boost tonight, so I'll be back on my four year old Captivate till I buy another phone.
Then buy the xt1058 but not at&T because there's no bootloader unlock. If you can get your hands on a Rogers xt1058, go for it
I haven't come across a non-AT&T 1058, but I've got a line on a cheap, unbranded 1050 which I may try to pick up. I understand they're nearly identical to the 1060 except for maybe(?) a different CDMA band, which I don't care about. The specs show the GSM bands of the 1060 and the 1050 to be identical. Since people have decent success with the 1060 on TMO, I would imagine I'd have the same results with a 1050 on TMO given that their GSM radios are the same. I know that LTE may not work depending on my area and provider, but I'm not concerned with LTE. I'm on wifi 95% of the time, so 3G/4G on the UTMS(?) band would be perfectly acceptable.
What I don't know for sure is if the bootloader can be unlocked on the 1050. According to this guy, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52949525&postcount=352 it can. Any input from the gurus on this possible purchase?
I just realized one other thing. According to Wikipedia, the 1050 uses CDMA 800 where the 1060 uses CDMA 850. I read that one of the CDMA bands that Verizon uses prevents them from sim locking their phones, something to do with FCC rules. Would that be the 850 band? If so, there's a moderate chance this phone is sim locked and I can't find anything about specifically sim unlocking a 1050.
I ended up buying a 1053 Developers Edition on eBay for $70 with a dirty, chipped rear cover. I figured who cares about the rear cover because it's going in a case, right? Got it in the mail today and there's a quarter inch crack in the screen on the lower right corner that wasn't in the description. The camera also gives an error and crashes when it tries to load. Ugh! Other than that I really like it.