Do I need to keep advanced task killer on my bionic running ics or is it unnecessary?
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You can kill runaway apps in settings, apps, running which should be sufficient. Using task killers that autostart and continuously kill apps will do more harm than good.
Haven't needed a task killer since my devices were on Gingerbread here. Hold the Home button to bring up the recent apps and swipe them away in there to kill them. Any other rogue apps can be shutdown like other poster said by just hitting settings>apps and Force closing them from there.
ICS certainly makes it easier. Quite frankly I haven't bothered with a task killer since Android is supposed to handle all that pretty much automatically (at least we read about it everywhere).
Thanks, I'm going to give it a try and remove the app.
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Don't need them
SC-Claim said:
Thanks, I'm going to give it a try and remove the app.
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Good idea -- vestige of very early versions of Android.
+1 to what you have already been told.
Don't kill tasks unless you know you absolutely don't want the program open, or maybe opened it by accident.
Android will stack a list of apps you have used. When resources are getting near low, it will start to empty. I hope I am not giving misinformation on the exact process, seems to me what my phone does. Any apps you use more than once a day should not be killed, they will switch faster next time you access them. That's just how Android works.
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Ok so i have no idea what's safe to kill and what's not.. Security level is set to low... A bunch of things I never seen or even run are in there..
Reason I ask is I seen some people say they'll have 200 free memory after running atk...me all I have is about 135/145...
Maps also just reappears on its own along with stock messaging...I use handcent.....
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Well after almost a complete day with it installed hasn't helped battery at all...may have even made it worst...
Now more appso auto starts...like maps even though I have yet to open it....
Also when I kill I get only 75/85 free mem.....
Some one has to know something...
Seems that atk may not help me...
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You don't need a task killer on these phones. The more you try to mess with how it works, the less battery life you will get. I get 2 days on a single charge, with daily usage.
I agree with miztaken1312. The system manages running apps pretty good on its own. I do have ATK installed but I only use it for a game or app that freezes and I can't "force stop" it from the built in running application list. To keep ATK from running in the background and wasting battery I keep it on the kill list so when I kill apps it kills itself until I open it again.
I use advanced task killer (not the advanced part just using it manually) and have been noticing loads of random apps on startup. Is this normal, is it killing my battery or making my startup slower? Mostly concerned about the battery.
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andrewdroid said:
I use advanced task killer (not the advanced part just using it manually) and have been noticing loads of random apps on startup. Is this normal, is it killing my battery or making my startup slower? Mostly concerned about the battery.
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No one can give you a real answer on this. I used to us a task manager. I stopped. I do not notice a difference. Then again I flash a new rom every 4-5 days
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The biggest misconception is that the tasks you see are "running" in the back ground. Nothing can be further from the truth. There's a reason that the apps start back up immediately after they are killed. Remember, this isn't windows. Android OS, especially 2.2, is designed for multitasking. The apps begin to load because it makes it easier for the OS to perform certain tasks. They appear to be running, but in fact are merely being used as a place holder so to speak. When the system recognizes it isn't needed, it stops the app from running and replaces it with said place holder. And even that is ended after a while. In essence, Android itself is a task killer. If you think about it, it's actually counter productive because the system expands more energy, or battery, when you close tasks that aren't ready to be closed, and uses more battery restarting those apps. Trust me, the OS knows what's best for the phone more than we do. I stopped using task killers and noticed a slight difference in my battery life, for the better, when I let Android to its thing.
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Ok but why are they starting up during my boot?
I only use the task killer for poorly behaved apps if they malfunction or need to be reloaded for some reason, i don't turn on the auto part.
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What apps are you concerned about specifically.
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Ok but why are they starting up during my boot?
I only use the task killer for poorly behaved apps if they malfunction or need to be reloaded for some reason, i don't turn on the auto part.
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Android actually tries to start everything... at least it seems so to me. That way it doesn't waste time nor energy (battery) starting apps when it (or you) need them. Get something like osmonitor or system monitor or watchdog. Then you can see what the apps are actually using. Most of them sit there idle using 0 cpu time. Mostly you should let 'em be. It's a feature, not a bug!
I tried watchdog, it's pretty good. Now i can see the usage percentage, much better.
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Also y can't laptops have an option to multitask like this? Seems like loads of battery would be saved.
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I use advanced task killer (not the advanced part just using it manually) and have been noticing loads of random apps on startup. Is this normal, is it killing my battery or making my startup slower? Mostly concerned about the battery.
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When you kill a process and it has to start up again fresh that kills your battery more. To a certain extent, those task killer apps are scams
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The apps that were booting were random ones like Yelp, and Adobe Reader etc that I don't think ought to have any bearing on startup. Using Watchdog, they don't seem to be affecting any CPU when they startup but aren't they slowing my boot for no reason? Or no.
after reading in one thread about atk somewhere in xda, I agree with the author and immediately remove from gt my P1000. then after a few days without atk there are some things I want to ask:
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the killer task default samsung just ending not more than 4-5 applications where my habit to always use the back button from one application to another. this is much different where atk while still using 17-20s can reach the applications in turn. what makes the difference between this 2application?
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Since i'm back to defat task killer, i always been 80-90% of ram usage and everytime i killed it always been around 350 ram, way different with atk which might reached 175 of usage ram. What is all about?
I'm running with default GtP1000 firmware no rooting. Appreciate those whom willing to brighten me up about this free ram
Regards
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You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
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You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
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Meaning no need apps to clear-uninstall right? i can see that your device is rooted? yhanks for respond
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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I'll try to look at the bloat freezer
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Still curious what is the main different the way atk and default in killing task?
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the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
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the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
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I've seen the bloat frozen but it required root,mine not rooted yet
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I'be had fairly poor battery performance. When i went into running services i saw that quite a few were running that i didn't start up myself. Like Facebook. Tripit, hootsuite. I've made sure that notifications have been turned off but these apps are still loading up. Any way of making sure they don't load unless i manually load them?
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I've been using watchdog. It lets me know when an app is running in the background and lets me kill it. If there's an automatic solution, I'd like to know about it too.
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Agreed, task killers... kill batteries.
Honestly, having it run in the background doesn't kill your battery. Its the syncing. I'm assuming you are NOT rooted? If so, then there are a number of apps to help you, primarily Titanium Backup so you can FREEZE the app.
If you want to have a quick free fix, go under accounts, and turn off sync for those apps. Saves battery life like you wouldn't believe.
There's also an app called "LTE Switch" that brings you to the LTE Menu so you can switch to CDMA (Also a HUGE battery saver)
Good luck!
I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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None are showing under Accounts? Hmm, thats odd. Usually, when you first get your phone, it asks to set these up. What all apps start up upon reboot? And you are NOT rooted, correct? I'll do some research
I'm not using the Social Networking app. Standalone versions of Facebook, Hoot Suite, etc.
What I'm using is a program that is a part of my file explorer, ES Task Manager. Instead of KILLING the apps, I can force them at startup to not run. So I stopped Gun Bros and Contract Killer from running at startup because they had these annoying notifications they would send me about buying in-game stuff and really didn't need to be run at all. And I couldn't find a way to turn them off lol, so this works out well for me. If you don't want something running at startup, you can do it this way, and it could potentially help battery life because it would only run when you tell it to. And you need root access to do this.
Great suggestion
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Look for program called "Startup Manager" in market - works great!
hello...i used a auto start manager, works great..but i also want that when i close facebook from recent app that it kills the process...in rom tools task manager i see that facebook is a hidden app (like whatsapp) so the built-in task manager doesn't kill it when i close the app..any ideas how to make the facebook app "visible" so that the task manager auto kills it like other apps and games?
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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People say that but whenever I haven't used one, I can notice the difference in performance. My bionic runs better with ATK.
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Hi there
There alot of roms like RoCKeT RoM for example couse alot of battary drain because this rom have alot of futures and performence but i,m sick of my battary
Any help on how to freeze the wifi
Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzzza
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I am not sure you need to freeze it. I had a rooted Arc before, and used Android Assistant to stop apps like this starting up. The real benefit of it is you can block all the listeners' every app and service has. The listeners are what makes it pop back up again when you have killed it (like WiFi sharing does, and &*^% Social Hub & Buddies!).
Used with the start up kill as well, you have a clean fast start, more RAM, and more battery. The price is zilch too, although I recommend buying it just to support it. What's not to like?
Edit: It is autorun that stopped things loading, and listening to events. Android Asst just prevents loading on boot.
Install Titanium Backup or AntTek App Manager and freeze it/them. I've done it myself.
And how to do it with antek application manager
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1. You must be rooted of course
2. Open the app and hit the "Apps" tab
3. Search for "Wi-Fi Sharing Manager" and "Wi-Fi Sharing"
4. Tap on it/them and choose "Freeze"
5. Done!
Thank you very much
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Is this the only way to get rid of this? I think this is also the case for my bad battery performance as well. So, no way to stop it or kill it without 3rd party software?
Nope, it's a system process, so you'll need root to freeze/delete or do anything about it. If you kill it manually using a task manager the process with start again within seconds.
How long should it take? I'm using Titanium Backup-Pro, been sitting on "freezing Wi-Fi Sharing manager 1.0" for over 5 minutes.
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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When you freeze an app with Titanium (or some other system app manager), the system doesn't see it anymore. It's still there, but out of action until you defrost it.
It's a useful feature to experiment with temp shutting down of system apps - if you see that something is wrong, you defrost it, and everything's fine.
If you uninstall it, OTOH, if something bad happens, you're stuck.
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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If you mean "why freeze those particular apps?", then the answer is that if they are not used, they are just wasting battery and RAM by running. This is true of a large number of built-in apps that Samsung, and indeed carriers, put on your phone for you.
These particular ones serve no purpose for 90% of users [sorry, needed for Kies air, disregard], so are best stopped. Even if you do use them, they are best prevented from starting up until you want to use them.
freezing wifi sharing and wifi manager will cause kies air not working. unless you never used kies air and planning to freeze it too then i think it should be ok
I want to ask WHAT THE HELL IS THAT WIFI SHARING APP?! How can it be so badly done... I mean it's killing battery as once launched it never stops. I just can't get it...
And that's why we freeze/remove it If you don't use Kies, then get it over with and kill it (the permanent way)
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Fact is, after i froze them (all social hub) wifi sharing came and freezing it didn't change anything, it was still running from boot!
Freeze both wifi sharing and wifi sharing manager.
It will not come back after boot. Tested on 2 S2s and a Note.
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I use Autorun manager to disable all the 'listeners' that these apps have (one is for boot). This is in many ways better because I can still use them by actually running them, but they do not start by themselves.