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I don’t know if it’s true but the guy at the Verizon store told me he heard the Bionic was being canceled and they were coming out with a better version with a 12MP cam, 1 GIG Ram, etc and it would be out in September now.
Don’t know if it’s true or old news.
That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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I wish there were more information about time lines. I am eligible for upgrade now. Nothing looks good at this point if this gets canceled. The Charge is single core ($300, WTF!), the Revolution rumors are going back and forth (dual/single core), the X2 doesn't have 4G, the Thunderdolt has a tiny battery and is a single core device... Targa in September? My DInc won't last that long. I might just upgrade to the DX on a one year contract. (Yes, I know the one year contract is unavailable to the masses...)
I called verizon and I'm not sure which rep you talked to, but they not only told me the rumor wasn't true, but they said reps shouldn't ever give a rumor like that unless it's confirmed. Then this popped up... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Delayed-as-iPhone-5-Looms-229162/
It's delayed no canned.
this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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Unfortunately you may not be out of the woods yet. In addition to "enhancements" the rumor mill also suggests an updated form factor.
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That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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this is true.
I bought a DInc from Craigslist. I have rooted and loaded CM7.0.2.1. It's running smooth with all day battery life on stock battery with moderate use, about 12 hours with 20% of battery left. This includes about 4 hours of Pandora use on 3G.
I can wait for the new Bionic now.
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The Bionic has been removed from the Motorola web site
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Home
Motorola has removed the Droid Bionic from their web site. Searching on the site will only lead you to the Mobile Phone Support site.
Hope to see the new Droid Bionic site up in the near future.
I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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Though there was no specific information given about the changes being made other than the form factor, I highly doubt they'd do that. It's been the phone every is zeroed in on because of the Tegra 2 along side 4G.
Motorola's DROID BIONIC LTE smartphone, first announced at this year's International Consumer Electronics Show, will launch this summer with Verizon Wireless. Based on compelling feedback since the show, we are incorporating several enhancements to make this an even better consumer experience. This includes expanded features, functionality and an improved form factor.
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Source: http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-DROID-BIONIC-Fact-Sheet-353a.aspx
I highly their idea of an enhancement is a downgrade. The "Improved form factor" could mean they're using a different phone entirey(same features, obviously and hopefully more or "enhancements" wouldn't be the right word) because of issues they were having, as some have thought to have been heat issues before. There have been others saying that it resembled the HTC Thunderbolt too closely, which is true in a lot of ways, but nobody but the people working on the phone really know anything for sure. All we can do is speculate.
Motorola isn't going to drop to a single core processor. It'd be a bad move on their part to release a phone with such similar specs to, both, the Thunderbolt and Charge, which are both already out there. We all wanted the Bionic because it would blow the other Verizon phones out of the water in comparison.
On a personal note... they need to hurry up and get the Bionic out there so I can upgrade.. lol My Droid 1 is still nice and all, but my physical keyboard is done for... letters separated and glue not holding.. letters overlapping, making it hard to type without constantly pushing them back... lol I refuse to settle for less than upgrading to a phone of the Bionic's specs or better. A phone that is overkill now is a phone that'll still be decent when I upgrade again, is the way I look at it.
I ramble... sorry.. lol
This is true. It has been scraped for a better Moto Device. This device is to be released during the summer. So far they do not have alot of specs on it. I know a VZW employee and he could not give me a name of the Moto 4G device that is coming out but its this summer.
Well thats pretty dissapointing i was very much looking forward to atleast getting my hands on one, hopefully Motorola releases something better this summer
Wow I almost waited for the Bionic when I bought my Atrix because I was tired of AT&T. Then they kept pushing the bionic out and I finally caved and got the Atrix. By September I will be 1/3 of the way through my contract and maybe when this contract is up Verizon will have one I want. Sorry to hear it may be canceled.
one thing every one here seems to need to learn... PEOPLE AT THE VZW STORE ARE ****ING SALESMEN!
meaning, they will tell you whever lies they think you want to hear to try to get you to buy a new phone THAT DAY.
just saying they are always lieing to you to get sales... i see it happen all day at work. dont be a sucker. you're getter off geting info from sites liek this than sales associates.
There will still be a Droid Bionic, it just won't be quite what it was originally supposed to be. It will need a different case than what was originally going to need, so if you already bought cases, you will be out of luck. The problem is that other companies (Samsung) have announced better phones, with better screen since Motorola announced the Bionic. The Dual 1.2ghz is better than what Motorola had announced so they have to go back and fix that. After the long wait, they don't want to come out just to be second best.
What is this new form factor that is alluded to? I hope that it is shaped like the Atrix honestly.
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http://www.zimbio.com/New+Mobile+Ph...Verizon+Leaks+Support+Motorola+Droid+4+Launch
No wonder Hashcode is like the ONLY Dev working on CM7 for this phone. I can't believe they'd release the D4 6 months after the D3. Such BS.
.... That is why a Verizon stuff sell me his droid 3 last week ......
I purchased the Droid3 on the day it was released in July and I'm furious. I'm sure people who purchased it a month ago are going ballistic now that they are out of the return window. Can't believe this is being released in two weeks. I'm about 90% ready to pay the ETF and switch to Straight Talk and get out of contracts for good. I can get practically any phone available US or imported and use it on ST.
I know the service probably pales in comparison to Verizons but at $80/month for 24 months, there should be more of a protection in future-proofing phones. Checked on Verizon for trade-in value, $80...
Looks like a razor with a keyboard, kinda ugly imho, i can't see this coming out too soon.
Anyways locked bootloader which will take even more months to be come usable, same specs as the droid 3 with maybe 1gb of ram and a 1.2 cpu, not worth an upgrade at all.
-smc
I find it amusing that people are surprised by this. As soon as the Droid 3 came out I knew it would be followed by a 4g version not long after. I also don't understand why people are upset about it. Your phone doesn't automatically become worse when this phone launches. And anyone who thought the Droid 3 was going to get good dev support was out of their minds. We're super lucky to even have hash. Either way I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus. Totally done with Motocrap. 32gb card still doesn't work for music.
People, it's Motorola. Like any other corporation, they want some way to get more money, and if they need to release the first 4G/LTE slider phone, then they want to do it as fast as they can..
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I find it amusing that people are surprised by this. As soon as the Droid 3 came out I knew it would be followed by a 4g version not long after. I also don't understand why people are upset about it. Your phone doesn't automatically become worse when this phone launches. And anyone who thought the Droid 3 was going to get good dev support was out of their minds. We're super lucky to even have hash. Either way I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus. Totally done with Motocrap. 32gb card still doesn't work for music.
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I'm in the same boat. I've had a DX and now a D3. Screw Moto, I'm going to break the keyboard mapping file, take this piece back as my 2nd return, pull the same shenanigans for a 3rd return, and then flip $#!+ about this phone being a turd and get a GNex. I want pure Android from it's creator, not this MotoBull.
I knew this would happen.. I was pissed that much better phones were released within a week after this phone was released... Personal preference is now key to buying phones these days. Technology is only advancing FASTER meaning something twice as good will be released within weeks of what the best is now. 2 years ago we had a 550mhz D1, year later the speed and ram doubles with the D2, not quite a year passes and now dual core is standard. Less than 6 months and quadcore phones will make the D4 comparable to owning a D1. All I have to really say is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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and if they need to release the first 4G/LTE slider phone, then they want to do it as fast as they can..
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They already did, same release date as our XT862, its called the Motorola XT860 4G, AKA Canadian Bell Droid 3...
http://developer.motorola.com/products/xt860-4g/
So what it's ugly and battary not portable. They must keep supporting the droid 3 with updates though
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Wasnt this supposedly the leaked image of the razor, like 2 months ago????? lol
Luckily we still have Hash;who is btw doing an awesome job. Another thing we have in our favor is that the D3 & Bionic are so similar, so hopefully we can piggyback alot of ROM's, Mods, & Themes.
Oh men. I buy Droid 3, four days ago...
Of all the people with a D3 pissed that the D4 is being released....do you even have 4G service where you live? I don't so I could give a **** less.
*I love my Droid3..f'off Samsung Captivate*
Are you really care?
I bought D3 because it's a global phone. But the D4 is NOT.
It's CDMA and 4G only.
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Are you really care?
I bought D3 because it's a global phone. But the D4 is NOT.
It's CDMA and 4G only.
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Specs I saw is that the D4 is the first LTE Global Phone
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Oh men. I buy Droid 3, four days ago...
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Assuming you bought from VZW, you have a 30 return period. You're in luck.
I've also read about this yesterday, it appears that the gsm and removable back had been removed as well. Guess tone to move to a bionic
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I wont have 4G service where I am for a while, so having a 4G radio is more of a hassle at the moment. I refuse to buy a phone with a non-removable battery, its one of the reasons I stay away from the iPhone. The Droid 4 looks like it still has Gingerbread on it. I'm not so sure what people are mad over.
i just GOT my Droid 3, WTF motorola
http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/02/droid...-to-be-discontinued-in-january-report-claims/
How is it going to affect our phone and service? I had a D1 before the upgrade (a short while ago). As far as I can remember, D1 didn't reach that mark somewhere 1 year or more after its inception. Anyway, how do you feel about this if it turns out to be true?
Thank you.
I like my phone and with Hash porting ICS, it is even sweeter. Who cares?
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My old phone was the Droid Eris, which received its 2.1 upgrade after it stopped selling and has received two security updates since, including one in March 2011, about one year after the Eris went EOL.
So far the rumors have said that the D4 would come December 8, then December 22, now February 2. I tend to trust rumors only after they come true. In any case, the Droid X got its GB update after EOL, as did the D2, so EOL doesn't mean much anyway, unless, of course, you want to buy another.
We knew the d4 was coming so this is old news.This doesn't mean its end of support.
What does "all of Verizon's 4G LTE Hotspots to be discontinued" mean? As in, your 4G device cannot act as a hot-spot any longer? At first glance, it sounded like they were shutting down all their 4G connections, haha.
So now that the D3 is "retired" does that mean if I get a replacement under warranty it'll be a Droid 4 or something else?
I swore off Samsung after the Fascinate. Their software was god awful and their support was terrible. But since then, they've taken so many steps in the right direction. TouchWiz4 is actually pretty fantastic, and they're the fastest with updates now. Not only that, but they've left their bootloaders unlocked and are very dev friendly.
Motorola, on the other hand, has been on a downward spiral since the Droid. When I first saw the Droid 3, I was expecting a slow, bulky phone with terrible software, an awful keyboard, and a fugly screen. But I was wrong. I thought they were turning things around, I fell in love with the phone, and I sprung for it. The phone was beautifully designed, with a great keyboard, thin profile, and it was paired with shockingly nice software. It was fast, and is still Verizon's best 3G phone. They were promising unlocked bootloaders and quick updates.
Yet here we are, less than 6 months later. It has only seen one update. And it's successor is already finalized and ready to be released. Motorola wasn't expecting the phone to be so wildly popular(it was the 2nd or 3rd top selling Android smartphone), and they were desperate to get a 4G version out. They've completely forgotten about the Droid 3 and are giving it's owners the middle finger. And they're doing the same to Bionic owners with the Razr and Razr owners with the Maxx(aka Droid X3.)
So, unless they turn things around like Samsung, this was my last Motorola phone. This is my 5th or 6th Droid 3 and, thankfully, Verizon gave me an early upgrade for my troubles, so I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus very soon. I'm done with Moto's BS.
This phone is only something to hold me over until T-Mobile goes away. Even then, I will use it on VZW until it either falls apart or becomes completely irrelevant. Somehow, I don't think either of those things will happen too soon, unless I drop it repeatedly on pavement lol. It's already been dropped, before I bought it from craigslist, and still looks fine
After we go back to VZW, I may contemplate getting the D4, but it doesn't look as good as the D3 IMO.
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What does "all of Verizon's 4G LTE Hotspots to be discontinued" mean? As in, your 4G device cannot act as a hot-spot any longer? At first glance, it sounded like they were shutting down all their 4G connections, haha.
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More likely they are coming out with a complete new line of MiFi and USB devices.
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So now that the D3 is "retired" does that mean if I get a replacement under warranty it'll be a Droid 4 or something else?
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Since VZW is still selling reconditioned Droid R2D2 units right now, and have put in place a trade-in program when you buy a new phone, I have a strange feeling that they will have quite an inventory of reconditioned D3s to send out in these cases. Also, Moto can still manufacture a few - VZW just won't be selling them new.
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Yet here we are, less than 6 months later. It has only seen one update.
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That's one more update that the Fascinate saw in six months, IIRC. And just about the same as the Thunderbolt, or the Inc 2, for that matter. As far as what the phone is designed to do with GB, is there something in software that needs to be updated on the D3 right now? (Well, actually, I'd love some of the Tasker-like battery saving stuff in the Razr...)
And it's successor is already finalized and ready to be released. Motorola wasn't expecting the phone to be so wildly popular(it was the 2nd or 3rd top selling Android smartphone), and they were desperate to get a 4G version out.
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Remember that Motorola does not decide which phone Verizon sells - Verizon decides that. Thinking back on the history of the keyboard Droid line, the D2 came out about 10 months after the D1. I am sure that Verizon was eager to get a D3 in house in about the same amount of time; I am also sure that they would have loved having it with LTE, but the reality is that Motorola was struggling with LTE (witness the Bionic's long delay and complete redesign). So, Verizon ordered the D3 for July - 10 months after the D2 launch, with a reliable 3G radio and pretty darned good hardware for the time (I think I would have preferred 1 GB of RAM, gut 512 MB isn't terrible.)
Now that LTE is more widespread, Verizon obviously thinks of it as a competitive advantage over other carriers, it sort of makes sense that they want an LTE Droid keyboard phone to carry on. I think that this six/seven month difference (we are still waiting for the D4) is just a one-time thing because of the launch of LTE - I think that a presumed D5 will come out closer to the end of 2012 than toward the middle.
Well, maybe until they come out with 5G networking in about ten years or so...
They've completely forgotten about the Droid 3 and are giving it's owners the middle finger. And they're doing the same to Bionic owners with the Razr and Razr owners with the Maxx(aka Droid X3.)
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I still don't see how coming out with new lines is giving existing owners a middle finger, but whatever...I'd say that if the D3 never gets another software update, and doesn't get ICS, I'll agree with you, but we are, I think, months away from that being a decision that can be made. (And I think that D3 runs just fine on GB. There are some cool features in ICS, but they are not exactly killer cool features compared with GB in my opinion.)
So, unless they turn things around like Samsung, this was my last Motorola phone. This is my 5th or 6th Droid 3 and, thankfully, Verizon gave me an early upgrade for my troubles, so I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus very soon. I'm done with Moto's BS.
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Good luck with the Nexus - it sounds like a great phone.
The D3 is definitely my last Moto phone for a while, unless they drastically change the way they do things. This device on it's current version of GB is still loaded with tons of known bugs and issues, and Motorola isn't doing a damn thing about it. When the D4 comes out, then it is even more unlikely to get updated. Add in the unwillingness to unlock bootloaders and you have your answer.
The people making the decisions at Motorola are a bunch of pretentious a-holes who think their large market share will last forever, but it won't.
This phone is frickin' sweet with ICS. I think it'll keep me happy for quite some time...unless it breaks that is. EOL? Meh.
After reading all these replies, my concern comes down to this: what is the likelihood verizon and motto stop supporting this phone after it reaches to mark? Supporting means OTA first, ICS next.
As far as the phone is concerned, I LOVE it. I think it offers better value than D4 in terms of cost ($40 at costco), scalability (removable battery), and option to use XT883 radio.
I think verizon and motto probably realize there are some un-intended values bundled in D3, that's why they are anxious to put the label on it just 6 months after its inception.
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After reading all these replies, my concern comes down to this: what is the likelihood verizon and motto stop supporting this phone after it reaches to mark? Supporting means OTA first, ICS next.
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Considering that they just released a security update for the D1, and that the DX received a GB update, as did the D2, both over a year after they were released - I think it's pretty likely that there will be at least security updates going forward, perhaps GB updates to 2.3.7 if they decide not to do ICS. But, we'll see...
So as it turns out, Motorola will also be locking down the bootloader for the upcoming Atrix HD....big surprise, eh?
However, something in this article is a bit noteworthy:
"...our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-a-way-to-unlock-to-those-who-wish-to-do-so/
There's one guy around here that has a sig that says "Motorola lied I'm still locked" or something similar... he's got the right idea about it, and words mean nothing and neither do their broken promises so, until we see and can actually make use of a real honest to goodness unlocked bootloader, Motorola can stick their words someplace, you get to choose where.
4 words: Too little too late!
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
Atrix 4G is unlocked when Atrix 2 is released
So, I hope that when Atrix HD is released, our Atrix 2 will be unlocked =))))))))
Lies all lies...
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Atrix 4G is unlocked when Atrix 2 is released
So, I hope that when Atrix HD is released, our Atrix 2 will be unlocked =))))))))
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And now they're trying to relock It with the new updates
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
Those are cheap lies from motorola. They played that scenerio very well with the XT910. Don't ever buy a phone motorola with locked bootloader with the hope of it could be unlocked in the future.
+1. I for one wont ever buy a Moto phone. That's the only form of complaint that they will eventually listen to.
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adelvillar said:
+1. I for one wont ever buy a Moto phone. That's the only form of complaint that they will eventually listen to.
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+1. Totally Agreed.
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Atrix 4G is unlocked when Atrix 2 is released
So, I hope that when Atrix HD is released, our Atrix 2 will be unlocked =))))))))
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The 4G wasn't officially unlocked when the Atrix 2 was released. We got lucky on that one...hence the cheesecake checking for the Atrix 2 in hopes that lightning strikes twice.
This is a tough one:
I REALLY wanna upgrade my phone, but I'm not sure if I want to wait to be able to do what I can now..
Its bull we heard it all with the defy and the atrix and then the razr
Don't forget when they said that about the razr they then released the dev version so you had to buy another phone.
I'm done with moto, their excellent hardware cant make up for their bad software hence why I brought a Samsung GS3 the only thing I can hope for this device is that they stick to their word(not gonna happen) or that if your lucky devs like quarx and eppy from the defy get helping here.
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I have never seen Moto as a anything more than the gimmick device provider for Verizon so to me this is business as usual....
Moto dropped the ball long ago....quality? In what? Superior Screens? To who? HTC has done some dumb crap too but have way out built Moto in the quality field....Samsung has leveled the entire industry with their technology. Moto does nothing except pack into their devices COMPARABLE hardware to other manufacturers....innovate nowhere....they amaze no one....from form to the most terrible UI....Atrix line? Fail.....Razr....I will give them battery on the Max but lose points for a sub par OMAP....sure its just my opinion but I can't see people being upset anymore over this BS entity.......Moto and Apple need to attend some courses on innovation because they are both all out of it.
Google should employ some good XDA devs to turn that dying rat platform into something good again....Moto has lost the will to out do.
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I have never seen Moto as a anything more than the gimmick device provider for Verizon so to me this is business as usual....
Moto dropped the ball long ago....quality? In what? Superior Screens? To who? HTC has done some dumb crap too but have way out built Moto in the quality field....Samsung has leveled the entire industry with their technology. Moto does nothing except pack into their devices COMPARABLE hardware to other manufacturers....innovate nowhere....they amaze no one....from form to the most terrible UI....Atrix line? Fail.....Razr....I will give them battery on the Max but lose points for a sub par OMAP....sure its just my opinion but I can't see people being upset anymore over this BS entity.......Moto and Apple need to attend some courses on innovation because they are both all out of it.
Google should employ some good XDA devs to turn that dying rat platform into something good again....Moto has lost the will to out do.
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I don't feel like arguing with a troll but you're wrong plain and simple. Don't like them, don't buy them.
Back on topic, don't ever buy a device expecting future functionality, you'll always end up disappointed.
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I don't feel like arguing with a troll but you're wrong plain and simple. Don't like them, don't buy them.
Back on topic, don't ever buy a device expecting future functionality, you'll always end up disappointed.
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I am an adult and know that only name calling causes arguments.....so you should not call people trolls who actually are device fanatics and know what they are talking about.
Also an opinion can't be wrong....you should know this if you are old enough to use a keyboard.
Also replying to an opinion with no rebuttal other than your wrong and not even singling out one superior feature, makes your comment a complete fail.....
Last, a reply to the stupidest thing I have EVER read ....."don't buy a device expecting future functionality"....????????....are you serious?....granted five years down the road I would expect nothing.....but buying devices that can hold its own for a few years is called being a smart consumer
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I am an adult and know that only name calling causes arguments.....so you should not call people trolls who actually are device fanatics and know what they are talking about.
Also an opinion can't be wrong....you should know this if you are old enough to use a keyboard.
Also replying to an opinion with no rebuttal other than your wrong and not even singling out one superior feature, makes your comment a complete fail.....
Last, a reply to the stupidest thing I have EVER read ....."don't buy a device expecting future functionality"....????????....are you serious?....granted five years down the road I would expect nothing.....but buying devices that can hold its own for a few years is called being a smart consumer
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You don't act like an adult.....at all.
adelvillar said:
+1. I for one wont ever buy a Moto phone. That's the only form of complaint that they will eventually listen to.
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+1. Totally Agreed.
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+1 for not buying a phone because it has a locked bootloader.
-1 for thinking motorola (or any major OEM) cares about or listens to people like us. For every person who will not buy an atrix hd because of the bootloader, there are twenty people who will be somewhat annoyed but still buy one, and 1,000 people who will say "what's a locked bootloader?"
Moto knew this would create backlash but they did it anyway. The GS3 is unlocked on at&t, so I don't necessarily believe it was at&t's fault. Moto's message is loud and clear: "Android hobbyists and developers: We DO NOT care about you."
That said, I DO think we can get motorola to change, but missing sales from the open bootloader crowd simply isn't enough. Bad publicity on social networks, petitions, and hopefully an article about the bad publicity and petition on an android news site. How do we get the numbers? Get people who hate locked bootloaders, at&t, and/or motorola to sign. Then get some casual users involved, by describing the bootloader in overly simplified terms. Invoke carrier IQ and privacy, invoke freedom, etc.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of buzz around the atrix HD, so this may be easier said than done, but it would be nice because the atrix HD seems like it has the potential to be a truly great phone, I would suggest it over the Nexus in a heartbeat if it was totally unlocked and easy to install stock AOSP like ROM.
Ya you are right
+1 for not buying a locked bootloader phone.
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I once bought a Motorola Android (Atrix 4g), they make great build quality devices, and I'd buy a product of theirs again if they actually decided to ship their devices unlocked...they did this with the Atrix 4g people clamored for it to be unlocked...they said they would provide a solution they never did officially, it was only by luck that a leaked HK firmware for the phone pointed Devs in the direction on how to unlock the BL, fast forward some months and they have been releasing updates that relock the BL with no way to SBF back..Take a look on the verizon side, moto makes flagship phone for them, what did they do ship a Droid Razr with locked BL, their solution release a Dev device with unlocked BL and no warranty...So if we look at their track record on how to deal with BLs I dont put much faith in them, if anything their solution will be to release another Atrix HD Dev edition...too bad too cuz for 99 bux the Atrix HD seems like a solid deal...but I for one will not support them for shipping with a locked BL.
Sorry to be confusing locked bootlocker and locked phone. Can the phone be used for travelling to other countries? That is, using prepaid Simcard to countries that I will be travelling to.
I'm throwing in the towel with my Droid Bionic. Frankly my experiences with this phone have been a complete disaster.
I got the phone in the first place because I wanted the lapdock. Thus far I've never got my lapdock working for more than 2 or 3 minutes at a time. Even doing flash to stock etc etc I still end up with no mouse control on the lapdock - stupid thing just freezes as soon as it comes up. At one point Verizon decided to ship me a replacement phone thinking that one of the ports on my phone was bad. Well not only did the new phone have the same problem - but they ended up charging me $600 for it because they claim they never got the one I shipped back. Despite my numerous calls to verizon they simply have elected to not do anything about it. So after buying two phones and a lapdock all I have is a phone that still does not work right and a lapdock that might as well be an oversized paperweight.
Between that and the crap like locking the bootloader, promising updates then not delivering I think this will be the last motorola unit I buy for a loooong looong time.
cool story. took you 2 years to figure all of this out? never thought to take either back while in warranty? not saying this phone is perfect but these are the things most normal people would have done.
neo1738 said:
cool story. took you 2 years to figure all of this out? never thought to take either back while in warranty? not saying this phone is perfect but these are the things most normal people would have done.
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I made tons of calls to both Motorola and Verizon regarding all of this. Verizon says they'll send me yet another phone (this would actually be my 4th one - I left out part of the sob story) - however they refuse to allow me to return the one I have to the store if they do that. Of course I have a real problem with that seeing how they ripped me off $600 already by claiming they never received one of my old ones I shipped back. Motorola pretty much said screw-off deal with Verizon.
What it boils down to is VZW sold me something that does not work, has never worked, sent me 3 replacements all of which did not work, charged me $600 for one of those when they should not have - and all the meantime I have a pile of **** that still don't work and a lapdock I can't use. --- and VZW seems to not give a crap about any of it.
Really disgusting experience all the way around. Just as a matter of principle I'm considering printing out all of the correspondences and march my butt down to small claims court and demand a) my $600 back and b) refund all my monthly bills for past 2 years since I've never had a properly working device.
You should post this to the new Marketing consultant to Motorola, Guy Kawasaki on Google+.
A new sob story may net u a current HD MAXX or discount (or better) to the X phone whenever it launches.
My dad's always said, the answer's always no unless you ask.
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TechnoHippie said:
I made tons of calls to both Motorola and Verizon regarding all of this. Verizon says they'll send me yet another phone (this would actually be my 4th one - I left out part of the sob story) - however they refuse to allow me to return the one I have to the store if they do that. Of course I have a real problem with that seeing how they ripped me off $600 already by claiming they never received one of my old ones I shipped back. Motorola pretty much said screw-off deal with Verizon.
What it boils down to is VZW sold me something that does not work, has never worked, sent me 3 replacements all of which did not work, charged me $600 for one of those when they should not have - and all the meantime I have a pile of **** that still don't work and a lapdock I can't use. --- and VZW seems to not give a crap about any of it.
Really disgusting experience all the way around. Just as a matter of principle I'm considering printing out all of the correspondences and march my butt down to small claims court and demand a) my $600 back and b) refund all my monthly bills for past 2 years since I've never had a properly working device.
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why have you never exchanged the lapdock?
Despite Motorola's efforts to ruin the device, I still find it to be pretty good. Its not the sexiest of devices, but its pretty solid and I've found I can do just about anything that the newer devices are able to do. I've learned that you enjoy a device more when you make it work for you, rather than wait for them to add new features and a system update. I'm not sure how much more Jellybean could offer because I'm able to do just about everything that Android is capable of doing.
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Sorry you had bad luck with your phone. A lot of people had their bionic replaced with a nexus or a RAZR by Verizon for much less than you mentioned. Are you interested in selling your lapdock?
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hmm sent back a $600 phone without tracking and delivery confirmation? That would not be Motorola's fault.
zetachi said:
hmm sent back a $600 phone without tracking and delivery confirmation? That would not be Motorola's fault.
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I'm guessing he used the return label VZW sends you with your replacement phone. Which means that he probably didn't write down the tracking info (who would, unless they've had issues before?), and just packed up the old phone and sent it in. This isn't the first time this has happened, BTW. I'm more surprised they didn't try to replace the lapdock for him as well.
OP, good luck with your next device... I've been looking for a replacement for my Bionic as its started to have some issues, and I'm not really happy with the options at this point. I'm hoping for some new stuff around Google I/O, but not holding my breath. FWIW, I've had way fewer hardware issues with my Bionic than with previous phones.
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I'm guessing he used the return label VZW sends you with your replacement phone. Which means that he probably didn't write down the tracking info (who would, unless they've had issues before?), and just packed up the old phone and sent it in. This isn't the first time this has happened, BTW. I'm more surprised they didn't try to replace the lapdock for him as well.
OP, good luck with your next device... I've been looking for a replacement for my Bionic as its started to have some issues, and I'm not really happy with the options at this point. I'm hoping for some new stuff around Google I/O, but not holding my breath. FWIW, I've had way fewer hardware issues with my Bionic than with previous phones.
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I agree, the latest have not been anything close to wow.
collije said:
You should post this to the new Marketing consultant to Motorola, Guy Kawasaki on Google+.
A new sob story may net u a current HD MAXX or discount (or better) to the X phone whenever it launches.
My dad's always said, the answer's always no unless you ask.
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Good idea - I will do that.
neo1738 said:
why have you never exchanged the lapdock?
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Well since the phone doesn't work right there is no point.
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Sorry you had bad luck with your phone. A lot of people had their bionic replaced with a nexus or a RAZR by Verizon for much less than you mentioned. Are you interested in selling your lapdock?
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Well I only paid 50 bucks for it - but I wouldn't feel right about selling it to someone because I don't know if it actually works right.
dnlwthrn said:
I'm guessing he used the return label VZW sends you with your replacement phone. Which means that he probably didn't write down the tracking info (who would, unless they've had issues before?), and just packed up the old phone and sent it in. This isn't the first time this has happened, BTW. I'm more surprised they didn't try to replace the lapdock for him as well.
OP, good luck with your next device... I've been looking for a replacement for my Bionic as its started to have some issues, and I'm not really happy with the options at this point. I'm hoping for some new stuff around Google I/O, but not holding my breath. FWIW, I've had way fewer hardware issues with my Bionic than with previous phones.
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Ahh yes the infamous tracking-number / label problem. Well that is how they screwed this all up to begin with I think. When they sent me a replacement phone, there was no return shipping label in the box. I called VZW and they sent me another box that was empty, expect for a return shipping label. I've tried and tried and tried to explain to them that my guess is that they're looking at the wrong shipping label because of this.
Everytime I call now they say the same thing. "Ok - we're going to start an investigation". Yes, that's right - since last August, every time I call they say this. I think the count is at 59 times now they've said they're "starting the investigation" (I will have to check my notes on exact number).. It's just a bunch of bull****.