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Storage & App2SD issues..

Note: This is a long one, theres a tl;dr at the bottom of the page.
So, yesterday I bought the XDA Premium app from the market. I installed it, used it for a few hours, rebooted my phone, tried to open it back up, "Failed to load activity" error or something along those lines.
So then I looked it up on the market, it wasn't recognizing that it was installed, so I reinstalled it again. Used for a few hours. Rebooted my phone, same issue. This has happened a few times.
So I figured maybe some data was corrupt. So I installed it from the market, uninstalled it, tried to reinstall it again and it said not enough storage space on my phone. I looked and I have 2.77GB free space on internal storage.
So I figured I'd move some apps to the SD card anyways. Started moving all apps from my phone to SD using the App2SD app (Which I think just redirects to the application's page in settings). Everything seemed to work fine.
Rebooted my phone, and some icons on my screens in LauncherPro didn't load. Tried opening several of them.. all of them "failed to load activity". I'm talking about at least a dozen different programs here that had somehow gotten corrupted? Rebooted again, they didn't come back. Reinstalled a few of them and rebooted and one still wouldn't open.
So I'm restoring from a CWM backup I did just before I went to bed last night. Any opinions on what might have gone wrong or what I could do differently? Is 2.77gb reserved space for texts/cache/etc or was the "not enough storage" error incorrect?
tl;dr: xda premium was corrupting/wouldn't install because I *only* had 2.77gb free internal storage? Tried moving things with app2sd and many, but not all, corrupted after a reboot. Rebooted a second time, didn't solve any issues.

Don't use apps2sd with this phone. Go to settings, applications, media area, click on everything with a check mark, move to phone. This will solve your problem.
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mistawolfe said:
Don't use apps2sd with this phone. Go to settings, applications, media area, click on everything with a check mark, move to phone. This will solve your problem.
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So, as I mentioned above, I performed a recovery using an image I had created in CWM late last night.
Just for kicks I tried moving a single app to SD to see what happens.. Google+ went from 28mb on internal memory, to 8mb on SD. Restarted, it was corrupted and not even showing up in application list.
So whats the deal with our phones? They can't move anything to SD card without corrupting? Hopefully this is patched as I appear to be hitting the artificial 2.77gb cap on apps?

So.. my experiment with JUST moving Google+ to SD failed more miserably than I originally thought. Not only did G+ corrupt as I mentioned above, but my phone also started freezing again and VNC Viewer also corrupted itself.
So I had to perform a second recovery on my phone this morning. Ugh. Having way too many issues with this phone considering I only bought it maybe 2 weeks ago.

One more update.. hope someone can help me with this.
So I performed a recovery with CWM. Since then I have not done ANY App2SD attempts or anything. This is a recovery from before I ever did any of that.
Now, whenever I uninstall any app, when I reboot my phone several apps will corrupt. These are apps that I had used App2SD on before I had done the recovery. Its like, when I uninstall an app it finds some data from prior to the recovery and that corrupts the app...
Any way to fix this? I looked at my SD card and the only data on there is Titanium Backup data, CWM backup data, and a few zip files that I had put on there. I told ES File Manager to show hidden files and there is nothing on my SD that I see that could be making Android corrupt these files...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.. I'm starting to thing I'm going to have to do a fastboot recovery to completely stock and start over again..

If you restored a recovery, wasn't that recovery with apps2sd as well? Does that make sense?
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mistawolfe said:
If you restored a recovery, wasn't that recovery with apps2sd as well? Does that make sense?
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Here, I'll lay it out a bit more clearly:
1) Midnight last night I performed a backup with CWM. Everything was working fine, I hadn't done any changes or App2SD things yet.
2) Woke up at 10AM today and this was when all of the issues covered in this thread started. After 10AM today was when I first attempted to use App2SD Pro to move apps around.
3) I recovered using the recovery from part 1 of this message
4) I'm still having issues with programs corrupting even though I'm using an image from Midnight yesterday.

How can I completely wipe my phone then restore with Fastboot? Wipe SD, internal, everything.
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So it appears I fixed my problem.. even though I have run two complete restores using a backup from prior to my issues, some apps were still set to go on my SD card. So I guess a CWM backup doesn't store all file system data.
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Also some apps try to load on SD card watch out amazon apps. I've put 300plus sized various apps on my phone and didn't crack 2gb. And really 200apps or more your not going to have time for them.
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Yea, the XDA Developers app tries to load on the SD card by default. That was the entire root problem that caused all the above posts...
Hopefully Motorola fixes this SD card issue in the next patch.

[Q] CyanogenMod 10.1, SafeStrap, and my Droid Bionic

I've been looking all morning, but nobody can seem to answer my questions. I apologize if this has already been covered, or if this is the wrong location.
I've got a Motorola Droid Bionic & I was able to get CyanogenMod 10.1 installed by following their instructions:
http : // wiki. cyanogenmod. org/w/Install_CM_for_targa[/url]
I am BLOWN AWAY by the speed and polish of this ROM and am looking to make it permanent. However, I have some questions:
1. I'm currently using it SafeStrapp'ed (custom rom slot 1). When I create the ROM area, it takes away the space from the internal SD card. What is that space used for? App installs? (Currently its only 1,2, or 3GB choices)
2. If I use SafeStrap to replace the stock ROM, will the SafeStrap restore be able to put everything back? My phone is running the 4.1.2 build.
3. Will I be able to use TitaniumBackup to restore the older Camera app to see if that will make it work?

Steve.Cena said:
I've been looking all morning, but nobody can seem to answer my questions. I apologize if this has already been covered, or if this is the wrong location.
I've got a Motorola Droid Bionic & I was able to get CyanogenMod 10.1 installed by following their instructions:
http : // wiki. cyanogenmod. org/w/Install_CM_for_targa[/url]
I am BLOWN AWAY by the speed and polish of this ROM and am looking to make it permanent. However, I have some questions:
1. I'm currently using it SafeStrapp'ed (custom rom slot 1). When I create the ROM area, it takes away the space from the internal SD card. What is that space used for? App installs? (Currently its only 1,2, or 3GB choices)
2. If I use SafeStrap to replace the stock ROM, will the SafeStrap restore be able to put everything back? My phone is running the 4.1.2 build.
3. Will I be able to use TitaniumBackup to restore the older Camera app to see if that will make it work?
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1. Motorola had the great idea of taking the 16g of internal storage and dividing it in two; half for the opertating system, the other half formatted as a permanent SD card, and it functions as such. SafeStrap creates its slots in this internal SD card. When you connect your phone to the computer, you may have noticed that two drives/volumes are mounted. One is your external, one your internal SD card.
2. Not sure what you're asking. When you activate a different slot and flash a new rom to it, the phone is running off of that partition of the internal SD card. The stock rom is untouched. If you have different roms in different slots, the roms don't have anything to do with each other. If you're asking about wiping the stock rom, then you're looking for trouble.
3. I'm not sure if you can restore the old camera, but the new camera works wayyy better than the old one imho.

jethead102 said:
1. Motorola had the great idea of taking the 16g of internal storage and dividing it in two; half for the opertating syha, the other half formatted as a permanent SD card, and it functions as such. SafeStrap creates its slots in this internal SD card. When you connect your phone to the computer, you may have noticed that two drives/volumes are mounted. One is your external, one your internal SD card.
2. Not sure what you're asking. When you activate a different slot and flash a new rom to it, the phone is running off of that partition of the internal SD card. The stock rom is untouched. If you have different roms in different slots, the roms don't have anything to do with each other. If you're asking about wiping the stock rom, then you're looking for trouble.
3. I'm not sure if you can restore the old camera, but the new camera works wayyy better than the old one imho.
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The camera works smoothly. More attractive than the stock camera, but the pictures are very grainy. And I've heard there are issues with video. I'm looking for the same solution on the same phone. Its a very nice ROM, except for the camera. I also like how well gsm functionality has been entergrated into settings. Makes it finally feel like the world phone it was built (not hacked) to be.

[Q] Order of operations: when to move apps to SD card & when to swap SD?

To no avail I have sought a definitive order of operations for the housekeeping tasks to perform post ROM install. Specifically, at what point should one move apps to the external micro SD card and at what point should one get into the Buildpropeditor to change the SD0 to SD1 for the swap SD procedure?
Here is my usual order of operations on the bunch of ROM installs that I have done.
I make a nandroid of my current ROM (using TWRP).
I make a Titanium backup of all my apps and data, saved to my microSD card.
I make a Titanium backup update.zip (I am still not totally sure what the heck this is but I do it each time and then restore it for good measure -- somebody educate me).
Since I use LauncherPro, I make a backup of my LauncherPro settings, also to my microSD card.
I install the new ROM and GAPPs and update.zip to my microSD card.
I reboot to recovery using TWRP.
I wipe cache, dalvik, factory reset and system wipe. I do those wipes a couple more times for good measure.
I boot into recovery.
I flash the ROM.
I flash the GAPPS
I flash the update.zip
I go to ADVANCED
I fix permissions
I reboot.
I lot into my Google account.
Google starts downloading all my apps.
When that is done, I restore my Titanium backups. I restore missing apps and data and system apps and data, and all the restorable things listed under the restore category.
I reboot.
Now, at this point, what comes next? Do I move all my apps to the microSD card and then go into buildprop and swap the SD?
What is the order of operations for the whole ROM flashing process? Are the steps I showed correct? And how about the very end? When to move the apps to the microSD card and when to swap the SD card in buildprop?

Once first boot is done and after google restores my apps, then before I open or setup any apps i edit build.prop 0 to 1,reboot then set all my settings
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Swapping 0 to 1 makes my apps disappear
mwhitt said:
Once first boot is done and after google restores my apps, then before I open or setup any apps i edit build.prop 0 to 1,reboot then set all my settings
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Hmm. I just found out that if I flash the new rom and GAPPS, move all the apps to the microsd card, and then do the buildprop change from 0 to 1, all my apps disappear.
So is it conclusively true that one must make the buildprop change from 0 to 1 before moving each app to the external microsd card?

I don't move apps
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I don't move apps
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Why don't you move apps to your microSD card? The popular wisdom seems to be that you want to keep the very limited internal memory as free as possible. Is that a misconception? I have always been curious about this.

I don't move them simply because I have never needed to, once the 18 apps I use are installed and build.prop is edited and rebooted the folders appear on my sd card, so I'm guessing that the app data is stored on the SD card, i have never came close to running out of space, i average 500mb + free on internal storage
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Hey guys I have a secret, after first boot and you log in, shut of the phone back to recovery and flash the update.zip it put all your apps and data back on the phone. Eliminating the need to go back into titanium, and you can go to gplay and stop it from falsely trying to download apps
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tazmaniondvl said:
Hey guys I have a secret, after first boot and you log in, shut of the phone back to recovery and flash the update.zip it put all your apps and data back on the phone. Eliminating the need to go back into titanium, and you can go to gplay and stop it from falsely trying to download apps
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Nice secret, since I don't use titanium, will it still work?
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tazmaniondvl said:
Hey guys I have a secret, after first boot and you log in, shut of the phone back to recovery and flash the update.zip it put all your apps and data back on the phone. Eliminating the need to go back into titanium, and you can go to gplay and stop it from falsely trying to download apps
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Is it necessary to boot back into recovery after flashing and first boot and log-in? Is it possible in TWRP to set up three consecutive flashes, first the rom flash then the gapps flash then the update.zip flash? Or is it necessary to flash the rom and gaps, reboot and log in and then reboot to recovery to flash the update.zip?

Yes you have to reboot, if. Not it gives a failed and tells you to boot ROM first. And if you have an update zip you are happy with, then twrp really is only needed to keep up with updates and such for your update zip.
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[Q] TWRP?

Will we ever have a working TWRP recovery?

Doesn't seem like it but I'm not too concerned since I have had great luck with Philz and Touch CWM.

Looks like we will not. But as long I have philz I'm OK. Lol

Too bad. I like philz lots but its cwm based and romtoolbox don't get along.
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TWRP
As someone whose previous device had a TWRP recovery the only thing I really miss is that it allowed internal and external sd card access while booted. That always made for easy switching of roms. I know I bork up something at least once a week while tinkering and have to reflash recovery because I deleted my data without a working rom backup on my sd card.

clockcycle said:
Too bad. I like philz lots but its cwm based and romtoolbox don't get along.
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With philz never had a problem with that app as I use it to change bootanimations and fonts.

idontkn1 said:
As someone whose previous device had a TWRP recovery the only thing I really miss is that it allowed internal and external sd card access while booted. That always made for easy switching of roms. I know I bork up something at least once a week while tinkering and have to reflash recovery because I deleted my data without a working rom backup on my sd card.
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With Philz recovery you can always access both. Only takes a few minutes to switch between roms

Sorry for not being clearer
pijes said:
With Philz recovery you can always access both. Only takes a few minutes to switch between roms
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What I meant is that while in TWRP you can unmount your external and internal sd card and have it recognized as an mass storage device by windows. Thus allowing you to move roms, backups etc onto your sd card. Once you're finished with moving files you can remount your sd card and go about your business. I mess something up at least once a week and end up without a usable backup after wiping data in recovery. In the TWRP world I can just copy over a good backup without leaving the recovery. In Philz and cwm recoveries I end up having to reboot to the bootloader, reflash recovery, pull out my sd card and copy my backup to the sd card to get back where I need to be. It's nothing horrible but it does usually add 5 or 10 minutes to the process.

Philz has that option but I can't seem to be able to mount it correctly ,
I hope there will be a fix ,as I have been in situations in where I had a Bootlooping phone until I accessed my PC
If I recall correctly I think I heard someone built a version for us, but had touch points off coordination
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TWRP 2.6.3.1
The Photon Q TWRP works on our AHDs but has offset touch-points. It's still very usable once you figure out the offsets (down/left).
Attached is a flashable ZIP if you want to try it out. Just flash in recovery and reboot. You can always flash back to Philz if you don't like the touch issue.
Enjoy!

Noob Mistake? HELP!

I have a rooted Moto Bionic, and I wanted to load one more mod before I upgrade. I was following a guide using SafeStrap, and must have messed up. I had issues setting the Rom Slot, and am sure I wiped my phone clean. I can not boot past SafeStrap and can not load a ROM because it gives me an error saying that it cannot mount. I am stuck..... can you help me get this phone booting? I dont care if I have to go back to factory, I just need this to boot!

Which slot are you using? Stock? Rom Slot 1? And which one did you wipe?
The general idea is you leave the "stock" slot alone, and play only with the slots. So, what exactly *did* you do?

kschang said:
Which slot are you using? Stock? Rom Slot 1? And which one did you wipe?
The general idea is you leave the "stock" slot alone, and play only with the slots. So, what exactly *did* you do?
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I fear that when I couldnt create (I thought I had) the Rom Slot 1, I wiped the stock rom slot. Now I am stuck, I cannot get a rom slot to create, and I have no stock rom. The kicker is I am trying different ways to flash back to stock and I cannot get into recovery. My down volume button failed a while back. Is there another way to get into recovery??

If you can boot into safestrap there is still hope. We just have to figure out a way to get a flashable ROM file for you to flash. Seems the most painless way is to put it on the MicroSD card... if you have a SD card reader and a microSD to SD adapter (or MIcroSD card reader) for PC.
If you don't, we may have a problem, esp. if you also lost the volume buttons.

Do you actually have a sd card in
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kschang said:
Which slot are you using? Stock? Rom Slot 1? And which one did you wipe?
The general idea is you leave the "stock" slot alone, and play only with the slots. So, what exactly *did* you do?
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B.E.McAllister said:
Do you actually have a sd card in
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Ok, I have it booted to safestrap, created rom slot 4 successfully, and when I try to flash from a zipped file it fails to mount (/system, /osh, & /systemorig). Am I flashing the wrong type of file?

This gets confusing, as my experience may not match yours.
1) Stick to slot 1 (or 2)
2) If you already have stuff in 1 or 2, back them up to sdcard-ext then wipe them (you can restore them later)
3) Do you have ANY prior backups? Try restoring that to stock slot first, if you really did wipe out stock slot.
4) TWRP/Safestrap won't let you flash the wrong type of file. Your trouble may run deeper. One possibility is the internal 8GB sdcard is slow to mount or flaky and thus can't be booted from. Though that'd be quite hard to test?

kschang said:
This gets confusing, as my experience may not match yours.
1) Stick to slot 1 (or 2)
2) If you already have stuff in 1 or 2, back them up to sdcard-ext then wipe them (you can restore them later)
3) Do you have ANY prior backups? Try restoring that to stock slot first, if you really did wipe out stock slot.
4) TWRP/Safestrap won't let you flash the wrong type of file. Your trouble may run deeper. One possibility is the internal 8GB sdcard is slow to mount or flaky and thus can't be booted from. Though that'd be quite hard to test?
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1) I have tried to create a slot in 1 & 2 and it will create sometimes, but when I try to activate it the button doesnt seem to work. It will just reboot after about 30 seconds.
2) the slots are empty
3) my backup was wiped
4) I am on my 2nd sd card.
I appreciate your help, and any other ideas that you may have. Is there a way to do it via PC connection, etc?

tonytevogt said:
1) I have tried to create a slot in 1 & 2 and it will create sometimes, but when I try to activate it the button doesnt seem to work. It will just reboot after about 30 seconds.
2) the slots are empty
3) my backup was wiped
4) I am on my 2nd sd card.
I appreciate your help, and any other ideas that you may have. Is there a way to do it via PC connection, etc?
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Hello tony.
fxz at this point may not be an option. although wiping all partitions and starting fresh may fail because you must remove safestrap first.Not sure why but I seemed to have read this elsewhere.
Also, do not do what I did and try to intall twrp instead of safestrap on 4.1.2 . that will require fxz for sure.
what zip have you been trying to install in the stock slot? this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240725

rp201 said:
Hello tony.
fxz at this point may not be an option. although wiping all partitions and starting fresh may fail because you must remove safestrap first.Not sure why but I seemed to have read this elsewhere.
Also, do not do what I did and try to intall twrp instead of safestrap on 4.1.2 . that will require fxz for sure.
what zip have you been trying to install in the stock slot? this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240725
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No matter what I do, it says that it cannot mount. Is there another option? Is there an option that I am not trying with SafeStrap?

Have you tried going under advance and mounting it manually?
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B.E.McAllister said:
Have you tried going under advance and mounting it manually?
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I can mount it via safestrap, but you cannot do anything while it is mounted...