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Rooting a HTC Dream without applying another ROM

I have a South African HTC Dream and did some research on this forum about rooting. I am more than happy with the phone's current ROM with the exception that it does not support WPA-Enterprise Wifi - in order for me to configure this, I would need to root the phone and will then be able to adjust wpa_supplicant.conf.
In all the tutorials I would have to downgrade the firmware (I have not been able to do this with any of the guides supplied - either normal RC7 downgrade, 1-click or Goldcard) in order to root the phone.
Is there any way I can root the phone without having to flash another ROM (i.e. retain the current HTC ROM and make adjustments to wpa_supplicant.conf)? Most ROMs provided are not based on HTC build, and I would loose ActiveSync. AFAIK there is no ROM available which provides ActiveSync AND HTC Mail.
My current phone info:
DREAM PVT 32B SHIP S-ON d
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (DREA20000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,21:33:16
Firmware: 1.5
Baseband: 62.525.20.18U_3.22.20.17
Kernel: 2.6.27-9af60ed4 [email protected]
Build: 1.87.421.1 146733 CL#47295 release-keys

GNaschenweng said:
Is there any way I can root the phone without having to flash another ROM (i.e. retain the current HTC ROM and make adjustments to wpa_supplicant.conf)? Most ROMs provided are not based on HTC build, and I would loose ActiveSync. AFAIK there is no ROM available which provides ActiveSync AND HTC Mail.
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There are HTC based ROMs. The ROM from the Rogers Dream has exchange support, but before you flash the ROM you must flash the new radio then the SPL.

AdrianK said:
There are HTC based ROMs. The ROM from the Rogers Dream has exchange support, but before you flash the ROM you must flash the new radio then the SPL.
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Thanks - I replaced my phone with another one (FW 1.1) and was able to flash. I installed Touchdown to overcome the Exchange problems - not ideal, but best choice now.

GNaschenweng said:
Thanks - I replaced my phone with another one (FW 1.1) and was able to flash. I installed Touchdown to overcome the Exchange problems - not ideal, but best choice now.
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You're on 1.1?! I would strongly recommend flashing a Cyanogen ROM to get you back to 1.5.

I did update to latest Cyanogen rom. One question: I rooted the phone and am on latest Cyanogen. Only (minor) issue I have is that before the Cyanogen splash-screen comes on, I still see my mobile providers boot-logo (for about 10 seconds until the splash screen comes) - is there any way to change this?
I tried fastboot flash splash1, but get an error. As part of my rooting I did not flash SPL (i.e. HardSPL) but have cm-recovery - should I update SPL and if so which one (also, what is the risk of bricking?).
If replace SPL, do I need to update the radio again or reflesh Cyanogen?

As far as I know you wouldn't need to flash either again, HardSPL is known to be safe on all phones I believe. The only problems I've heard are with Haykuro's SPL. If you haven't flashed a new SPL that could be the issue, what is the error your getting when trying to change the splash?

GNaschenweng said:
I did update to latest Cyanogen rom. One question: I rooted the phone and am on latest Cyanogen. Only (minor) issue I have is that before the Cyanogen splash-screen comes on, I still see my mobile providers boot-logo (for about 10 seconds until the splash screen comes) - is there any way to change this?
I tried fastboot flash splash1, but get an error. As part of my rooting I did not flash SPL (i.e. HardSPL) but have cm-recovery - should I update SPL and if so which one (also, what is the risk of bricking?).
If replace SPL, do I need to update the radio again or reflesh Cyanogen?
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It should be safe as long as it doesn't not require a specific radio. I have never heard of the radio version you have, but that's probably because you don't have a t-mobile G1. What carrier is it on? If it's unlocked, what was the original carrier? (the ones displayed on the boot screen).
I think Josh is right that it's safe for all Dream's, so you probably could go ahead and flash it, I'm not 100% sure. Just a quick not about flash SPL's and radios on cm-recovery, you have to physically press alt-s then home+back to reboot. Don't touch the trackball. That's only for SPLs and radios.

The hard spl is great, but if u want to run hero u will nees to flash haykuros spl. If u do flash haykuros spl make sure u flash the new radio image FIRST! OR U WILL BRICK! Have fun flashing away

Thanks. I applied SPL from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
And then fastboot worked: /fastboot-mac flash splash1 DOWNGRADE-SD/Boot_images/android.rgb565
Upgraded to latest Cyanogen 4.0.4 and have now an awesome phone - thanks to everyone for the help on this forum!

GNaschenweng said:
Thanks. I applied SPL from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
And then fastboot worked: /fastboot-mac flash splash1 DOWNGRADE-SD/Boot_images/android.rgb565
Upgraded to latest Cyanogen 4.0.4 and have now an awesome phone - thanks to everyone for the help on this forum!
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i have a question for you. did you flash another radio before doing the "danger spl"
i ask because the radio you have is also the stock radio for rogers

david1171 said:
i have a question for you. did you flash another radio before doing the "danger spl"
i ask because the radio you have is also the stock radio for rogers
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I had flashed ota-radio-2_22_19_26I (not sure what it was before). I did roughly document my steps on my blog if you are interested.

GNaschenweng said:
I had flashed ota-radio-2_22_19_26I (not sure what it was before). I did roughly document my steps on my blog if you are interested.
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thanks. after seeing the radio you said you originally had in the first post i remembered that rogers has a radio that starts with a 3(then i searched and they are the same radio), then when i tried to download the root rogers package from that thread it kept timing out the download, so i was just curious as to radio you used. according to all the rogers root thread you have to flash the 1.33.2005 spl first before you can actually root, so basically i was trying to figure out if devices with that radio are immune to the bricking without 2.22.19.26I radio.

what SPL to use

Hello!
I'm new to the ROM upgrading buisness, just got my new ENERGY ROM installed!
I used the HSPL method, now i was wondering if my phone's preformance will be better with an HTC SPL compatible with my ROM
if so how can i change it and where will i find that SPL?
Thank you in Advance,
Roman

goldenwallet said:
Hello!
I'm new to the ROM upgrading buisness, just got my new ENERGY ROM installed!
I used the HSPL method, now i was wondering if my phone's preformance will be better with an HTC SPL compatible with my ROM
if so how can i change it and where will i find that SPL?
Thank you in Advance,
Roman
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Please do not start new threads for questions that are best treated in the threads specifically dealing with flashing. There are specific threads for HSPL, USPL and a Tutorial discussing and explaining both.
An official spl will not work (unless it is 1.54.0000) but you will still need to use USPL in that case to keep the spl. That being said however, AFAIK the spl will not have any performance related enhancements to the device unless of course you have the wrong one, in which case the performance will be negatively affected.
You have the choice of either using HSPL or USPL for flashing new roms. As you have chosen HSPL this permanently replaces the standard spl (it can be reversed though).
With USPL, the way I understand it (have not tried it myself as I use HSPL), you first upgrade to an official spl - 1.54.0000, and then using UPSL this allows you to "crack" the standard spl to flash a new rom and each time you flash you need to repeat the process.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
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Flashing Back to Stock ROM

can anyone give me a step by step on how to flash my ROM back to STOCK?

if you want it for warranty reasons then you will need to flash the SPL also to stock. you can just download the latest ROM from HTC website and flash it. it will give you the stock ROM on the existing SPL.

End of the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2710548&postcount=1.
Remember you will also need to go back to stock spl if for warranty purposes.

i have another problem, when in bootloader it wont change from serial to usb but was a week ago

7896zx said:
i have another problem, when in bootloader it wont change from serial to usb but was a week ago
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nevermind what i said there, for sum reason it works again now

I've kinda got thesame question. I flashed a stock rom (latest EU rom from HTC site), then stock SPL (1.14) and then the stock rom again. Is this enough to be able to claim warranty without HTC finding out about custom roms/boatloaders?
Thanks

accountabc said:
I've kinda got thesame question. I flashed a stock rom (latest EU rom from HTC site), then stock SPL (1.14) and then the stock rom again. Is this enough to be able to claim warranty without HTC finding out about custom roms/boatloaders?
Thanks
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That depends. What was your original rom and spl? Are you entitled (via location) to use the new EU rom, eg if you live in America then this may not be acceptable to HTC.
When you boot up the new rom, are the screen colours ok as this will tell you if you have the right spl for your rom? If you have the latest EU rom, I doubt that 1.14 spl would be the right one, but it could be I guess. With the stock rom, you should also get the stock radio. So provided you have the stock rom available to your area, with the correct matching spl and the radio, there is no way to tell of your exploits

Thanks for your reply
The problem is that the screen of my device won't turn on anymore (Device powers on, I can connect with activesync, digitizer works fine) so i have no way of checking if I have the right SPL or not...
I also have no idea what my stock rom/spl/radio version was.. I live in the Netherlands, and through the official HTC site i flashed the latest rom, which included a radio (a radio version was part of the filename). What I'm trying to find out is:
Could 1.14 have been my stock SPL, or was that version never used on any Dutch Blackstone?
If the spl doesn't match the rom (wrong colours) that isn't much of a problem; I can tell them I tried to update my rom because I thought maybe my screen would work again after I installed the latest ROM... But if I have a SPL that was never even used I don't think they will buy that

According to the wiki there are 2 Dutch roms - one would require a 1.14.0000 spl and the other a 1.54.0000 spl. So I guess either of those would do.
When you flashed the rom from the website, where you still using hspl or uspl? Depending on the rom you flashed you will need to flash the matching spl. Do you have the full notation/naming of the rom you flashed. This should give an indication of which spl you will need.

As much as I appreciate ClydeB1 for assisting you, I fail to see a reason for this thread. A thread already exists for flashing advice, i.e. the dummies guide. Also the HardSPL thread exists and has advice on how to flash back to stock. So depending on your query post in either of these.
The initial query and reason this thread was created has been answered, so no need for this thread to remain open. Thread closed

[Q] Help with Chevron/unlocking mango?

Hello, new to 'hacking' the WP7 but i want to flash a custom dev unlocked ROM to my phone, but i want to make sure i dont use the wrong ROM, so i was hoping someone could point me in the right direction?
I have a HD7 (T Mobile unlocked, US model, i'm in the UK if that makes a difference, also using o2)
It's currently running the official mango by the disconnect internet trick in zune.
Thanks in advance!

JeffaCakes said:
Hello, new to 'hacking' the WP7 but i want to flash a custom dev unlocked ROM to my phone, but i want to make sure i dont use the wrong ROM, so i was hoping someone could point me in the right direction?
I have a HD7 (T Mobile unlocked, US model, i'm in the UK if that makes a difference, also using o2)
It's currently running the official mango by the disconnect internet trick in zune.
Thanks in advance!
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any Schubert ROM will flash successfully to your HD7 with RSPL or HSPL installed.
with that said...
is either RSPL or HSPL installed?
if not... you will need to get that. DFT's RSPL/HSPL.
and here is a little how-to if you have the wrong SPL. see steps 2 and 8.
after that,
any ROM in the HD7 WP7 Development thread should flash fine.
sh4d0w86.

sh4d0w86 said:
any Schubert ROM will flash successfully to your HD7 with RSPL or HSPL installed.
with that said...
is either RSPL or HSPL installed?
if not... you will need to get that. DFT's RSPL/HSPL.
and here is a little how-to if you have the wrong SPL. see steps 2 and 8.
after that,
any ROM in the HD7 WP7 Development thread should flash fine.
sh4d0w86.
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Thats great thanks! just a few questions for you..
RSPL or HSPL? (sorry new to this ^^")
So if i install a nodo ROM (considering i'm currently on Mango) will it just roll back with no problems?
do i need to do anything specific with these ROMS that have different radio software versions? or can i just ignore them?
I'm trusting if i use the backup tool i can restore my text messages etc again, i dont really feel loosing them. :/

JeffaCakes said:
Thats great thanks! just a few questions for you..
RSPL or HSPL? (sorry new to this ^^")
So if i install a nodo ROM (considering i'm currently on Mango) will it just roll back with no problems?
do i need to do anything specific with these ROMS that have different radio software versions? or can i just ignore them?
I'm trusting if i use the backup tool i can restore my text messages etc again, i dont really feel loosing them. :/
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RSPL is, basically, a temporary SPL, which returns to OSPL (stock SPL) after reset.
HSPL is 'permanent' until you flash another SPL or return to stock.
both allow you to flash a custom ROM.
if you flash a RUU_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM it will 'roll back' fine, but will erase all data currently on the device.
but if you just flash the SPL_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM, it will only flash the Radio and SPL. i recommend task00 to flash this.
unfortunately, through Zune, SMS doesn't get backed-up.
sh4d0w86.

sh4d0w86 said:
RSPL is, basically, a temporary SPL, which returns to OSPL (stock SPL) after reset.
HSPL is 'permanent' until you flash another SPL or return to stock.
both allow you to flash a custom ROM.
if you flash a RUU_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM it will 'roll back' fine, but will erase all data currently on the device.
but if you just flash the SPL_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM, it will only flash the Radio and SPL. i recommend task00 to flash this.
unfortunately, through Zune, SMS doesn't get backed-up.
sh4d0w86.
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I've managed to roll my phone back using the zune software, i didnt know that was a option, so now it's back to NODO but with the problem of my SPL is set to v4.5 and the link you sent me here takes the SPL to 4.05 if i'm reading it right.. but DFT RSPL only goes up to 3.4... so have i hit a dead end completely? :S

JeffaCakes said:
I've managed to roll my phone back using the zune software, i didnt know that was a option, so now it's back to NODO but with the problem of my SPL is set to v4.5 and the link you sent me here takes the SPL to 4.05 if i'm reading it right.. but DFT RSPL only goes up to 3.4... so have i hit a dead end completely? :S
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nope. not a dead end.
quickest fix.
01. visit HD7 Radio Wiki, link in my signature.
02. download a stock NoDo or Pre-NoDo Radio for your device.
03. extract the SPL_Signed.nbh from the 'stock' folder.
04. flash SPL_Signed.nbh with task 00.
05. SPL has now been rolled back.
from there...
06. flash RSPL.
07. flash HSPL, if desired.
08. flash newer Radio, if desired, using RUU_Unsigned.nbh from desired Radio.
09. flash Custom ROM of choice.
sh4d0w86.

sh4d0w86 said:
nope. not a dead end.
quickest fix.
01. visit HD7 Radio Wiki, link in my signature.
02. download a stock NoDo or Pre-NoDo Radio for your device.
03. extract the SPL_Signed.nbh from the 'stock' folder.
04. flash SPL_Signed.nbh with task 00.
05. SPL has now been rolled back.
from there...
06. flash RSPL.
07. flash HSPL, if desired.
08. flash newer Radio, if desired, using RUU_Unsigned.nbh from desired Radio.
09. flash Custom ROM of choice.
sh4d0w86.
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Sorry another question, I had found this program for making backups, now for some reason i cant post on that thread but it wont restore after i installed the new ROM, i dont suppose you have any idea why? it says restored in 6. something seconds then restarts the phone with no changes :S
Thank you again for all your help ^_^

JeffaCakes said:
Sorry another question, I had found this program for making backups, now for some reason i cant post on that thread but it wont restore after i installed the new ROM, i dont suppose you have any idea why? it says restored in 6. something seconds then restarts the phone with no changes :S
Thank you again for all your help ^_^
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i unfortunately don't know.
best bet, is to ask the question on that thread.
i haven't ever tried using it to back up my device.
actually, i haven't ever backed up my device before.
too busy constantly flashing and testing my intrinsicROM.
sh4d0w86.

[Q] how to unlock my htc hd7

hello guys, I am new in this forum and I don´t know many things about this. my question is: I have an htc hd7 which comes with the manufacturer rom. I would like to unlock the phone to install new roms and aplications from other markets. can anyone of you guys recomend some unlock metod which is secure. thank you very much

danandrei83 said:
hello guys, I am new in this forum and I don´t know many things about this. my question is: I have an htc hd7 which comes with the manufacturer rom. I would like to unlock the phone to install new roms and aplications from other markets. can anyone of you guys recomend some unlock metod which is secure. thank you very much
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To unlock your device you have to downgrade your SPL to at or below 3.xxx and then install RSPL/HSPL and then you can flash a custom rom of your choice.
These are the only methods to downgrade your SPL -
1. Goldcard/ Y cable method - requires a Y cable, either home made or purchased. SD card and a card reader or a flash drive and download a goldcard tool and a stock/shipped Pre-NoDo/NoDo specific rom.
2. Zune restore point by Zubair- if you updated your device from a Pre-Mango state through Zune and still have the PC you did it on, then you can restore your device and then re-update it to Mango again and it will change your SPL to 4.xxx then you can use Shadows tutorial to finish downgrading the device.
3. SLSPL rom by Ansar - This works on Europe devices with firmware revision number .401 and can work on SIM unlocked TMobile devices.
Just follow Shadow's tutorial on downgrading SPL, flashing XSPL and installing roms. It has all the links for the above methods, stock/shipped roms and everything you'll need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068
If you need any help or have any questions, just let me know!