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[Q] A newbie Q: is CMW a nandroid backup?

Very sorry for newbie Q. I've been using Android for one month now. Though I've rooted, and install CWM, it seems that my knowledge is fragmented. For instance, I installed ROM Manager and ClockWorkMod. Both have backup/restore option. Is Nandrloid backup similar to this? Or CWM is the nandroid backup?
Coz I'm thinking about flashing the baseband and it says i need to do nandroid backup.
thanks

The backup feature in CWM is called a nandroid backup
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Yup, you are right! It's the same thing.
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Two more questions:
1. I read from a few threads that restore function of CWM may not necessarily working. How do we know when we do the back up that it'll work when we need to restore?
2. The CWM that i downloaded is 3.0.8. I read somewhere that the newest is 3.2 something. How can i upgrade to that? It seems that 3.2 can solve this restore failure.
thanks

If you look in the CWM 3.2.0.0 thread, you'll notice there is a zip file, in that is the recovery image and a batch file that will install it for you.

fifi139 said:
Two more questions:
1. I read from a few threads that restore function of CWM may not necessarily working. How do we know when we do the back up that it'll work when we need to restore?
2. The CWM that i downloaded is 3.0.8. I read somewhere that the newest is 3.2 something. How can i upgrade to that? It seems that 3.2 can solve this restore failure.
thanks
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I did trust CWM with backup of my system before i tried cyanmod ROM... I have three backups on my SD card and CWM restores fine, but system wont boot. So i had to build my phone all new again.
Dont trust CWM

After rebuilding you could have have restored the data backup (not system and boot) and you'd have been OK.

but the need to still rebuild still equates to CWM backups are useless.

baste07 said:
but the need to still rebuild still equates to CWM backups are useless.
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That's only true for the original ROM, for custom ROM it's a perfect solution, you just have to flash the ROM again after the restore.
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Vidroid said:
That's only true for the original ROM, for custom ROM it's a perfect solution, you just have to flash the ROM again after the restore.
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now, i'm confused. So, it's not enough that we restore but we need to flash it again? Like in nvflash or smartflash? Then what is it that we restore?
Also, I just flashed CMW 3.2. Do i need to create a new backup since currently my back up is from CMW 3.0.8?

By flash the ROM again, I meant run the zip file with the custom ROM on from Cwm. You will then have all your data and settings back.
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Vidroid said:
By flash the ROM again, I meant run the zip file with the custom ROM on from Cwm. You will then have all your data and settings back.
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So, if i want to go back to stock rom, i run the zip with stock rom from CWM? thanks.

Do you really have a zip file with stock rom? I don't think so.
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One could be made though, I suppose.

Sorry I'm confused now
CWM backups don't work? is that why I can't see them when I open CW Rom Manager? I can see them on the SD card but not in the program...
If these backups do not work, is there another way of making backups that work? I don't want to be left with a bricked phone if I try out some ROMS...
I saw a youtube video that showed how to use NVflash, but it was for the G2X and incredibly complicated, battery was taken out, and the phone was plugged in/out of the pc several times, etc... Is theres something similar for the O2X?
Cheers

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Do you really have a zip file with stock rom? I don't think so.
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Yes, it's the link below. Unless I'm mistaken. But not sure if it's compatible with my country.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035041
edit: the link is BIN file not zip. So, with stock ROM, nandroid backup is useless then?

Cant restore CWM backup

Yesterday, I tried to change ROM (to check it out) so before this I did a backup in CWM.
What a surprise when CWM didnt restore this backup. I was looking through the internet for solution and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15431672&postcount=24
I have same problem as in first post of this thrade (when restoring data, the whole process is stopped) but this solution seems to be for HTC Desire. What could I do if I want data back?
Please help me.

r u using same version of CWM to backup and restore?
new version not backward compatible with an older version backup

Yes, it is the same version
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marek.ns said:
Yesterday, I tried to change ROM (to check it out) so before this I did a backup in CWM.
What a surprise when CWM didnt restore this backup. I was looking through the internet for solution and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15431672&postcount=24
I have same problem as in first post of this thrade (when restoring data, the whole process is stopped) but this solution seems to be for HTC Desire. What could I do if I want data back?
Please help me.
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i've been into situation like this b4 after a restore, cmw say it was a bad restore..i ended up into a soft brick.
now i never use cmw

marek.ns said:
Yesterday, I tried to change ROM (to check it out) so before this I did a backup in CWM.
What a surprise when CWM didnt restore this backup. I was looking through the internet for solution and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15431672&postcount=24
I have same problem as in first post of this thrade (when restoring data, the whole process is stopped) but this solution seems to be for HTC Desire. What could I do if I want data back?
Please help me.
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Did you chaged you kernel ? because some kernel and roms have different CWM versions.eg: version 4 backup is not copatible with 5cwm

lotus13 said:
Did you chaged you kernel ? because some kernel and roms have different CWM versions.eg: version 4 backup is not copatible with 5cwm
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No no, i didnt change anything. The problem is described in that link, it seems that some versions of cwm have problem with restore and have to be fixed than the restore should work. But I dont know how to fix it.

Just simply update CWM to a newer version before restoring the backup.
I pushed the commit long time ago so any "recent" cwm (5.x) will solve the problem.
Hope this helps

Thanks a lot LinoX, but there is only CWM v4.0.1.5 for x8 on XDA.
Is it useful (should I try it?) or do I need newer version? (as you wrote 5.x.x)

marek.ns said:
should I try it?
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if it is an unmodified build (from source) then yes (sometimes there're custom modified builds to add functions. Those recoveries can be problematic because they break more than they fix. Recoveries are really important and you should install only "trusted" ones.)
Try with this one and let us know if it suffices (I'm sure 5.x has the fix, I'm not sure if 4.x had it too...but you shouldn't do any damage..at most it will halt again when restoring)

It seems to work but after first restore there were many apps not be restored, so i did another one. It is better now but still there are about 5 apps not restored plus stock Internet browser (dont know if some other system apps too).
I think it is strange that after every restore there is not same result and not what was backuped at all.
Where could be a problem and is it worth to try restore until everything is restored?
It is true that backup was created by cwm3.2(seems ported from x10mini) included in gingerdx rom i use.
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marek.ns said:
It seems to work but after first restore there were many apps not be restored, so i did another one. It is better now but still there are about 5 apps not restored plus stock Internet browser (dont know if some other system apps too).
I think it is strange that after every restore there is not same result and not what was backuped at all.
Where could be a problem and is it worth to try restore until everything is restored?
It is true that backup was created by cwm3.2(seems ported from x10mini) included in gingerdx rom i use.
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what are you restoring exactly?

Everything Classic recovery backup(system + data + .anfroid secure + cache)
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Oh, i realized something.
There was a problem with my SD recently. I couldnt copy one file from sd to pc. And antutu benchmark always crashes when testing card reading.
Damaged sd may causes problems with restore i mean.
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maybe...

The last thing i'd like to ask.
Is there any tool with i could extract certain apps from the backup?
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excuse me,
what is the latest cmw version for x8? v4?
thanks b4

I found as a zip file only v4.
But there is v5 in custom kernels included.
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marek.ns said:
I found as a zip file only v4.
But there is v5 in custom kernels included.
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thanks, i found cmw v5 in some custom kernel

Hi, I have a nandroidbackup made using CWM 5.0.2.7. And I want to restore it. Now I have CyanogenMod7 and I have Clockworkmod 5.0.0.6.
So I copied the nandroidbackup from external_sd to internal_sd, and now when it shows up in my restore menu.
Is there any problem that the backup was made with Clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 and I restore it with Clockworkmod 5.0.2.6 ?

[Q] Finallly rooted my N1 - so what is next for a new ROM?

Well after having my N1 for two years (I bought it on launch day) I finally got up the never to root it using this process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319653
Had a few heart stopping moments as the script hung until I realised that while I had download the SDK to get the USB driver I hadn't actually installed the driver for the phone.
Confirmed that it was rooted by downloading Titanium Backup and doing a backup.
For a new ROM (as yet undecided) is a Titanium Backup good enough or should I also do the cyanogenmod clockworkmod recovery?
Should I be able to restore my apps and settings after the new ROM using the Titanium Backup?

You wanna do a Nandroid or Full Image Backup with Clockwork. Titanium is just as you said apps and data. Although, I think CWM has a system bu option. Don't use CWM anymore use Amon_Ra. So not up on steps. The post 3.0 CW's have had issues and are documented.
You can restore apps and data at any time with Titanium, but I think to do system stuff you need to be restoring to same rom.
I highly recommend Nandroids and sdcard backups before doing any new flashing.
Start with CM7 roms the stable ones, then move on. Read OP pages fully and scan threads front to back for info/problems etc
Ken

Which recovery is user friendly for newbies like me.
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n1newbie said:
Which recovery is user friendly for newbies like me.
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Download rom manager from the market and install clockwork recovery.
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camalus said:
Download rom manager from the market and install clockwork recovery.
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Clockwork is probably the best and easiest to use.

scgolfer7 said:
Clockwork is probably the best and easiest to use.
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But i hv read many ppl complaining abt the problem with their sd card partition due to cwm? ??
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use the pre 3.0 versions

Let's try Amon_RA Recovery
Best recovery by far. Never any issues. Been using this version for months and months. Perfect with flashing, backing up, restoring, and partitioning.

are you experienced with fastboot commands adb etc

The downside with Amon_RA is it doesn't give you the option to wipe the /system partition. I have stuck with a pre-3.0 version of ClockworkMod for this reason. There is a new recovery out there called 4EXT that is based on ClockworkMod, but doesn't have the issue with corrupting partitions. He has also added a TON of new features. This does seem to be the best on out there now. He even just released a touch-based version. The thread is in the development section.

How to save apps when changing roms

I hate it when all apps are removed to change ROM. I want to try Nik's JB and I dont want apps to be removed whatsapp....

try Ultimate Backup Tool for non-rooted and Titanium Backup for rooted

In this case it should be enough to do a nandroid backup. You can test JB and if you finished testing, you just restore your old stuff. The JB ROM is amazing but it's not a daily driver yet so it's kinda needless to install all your apps on it

I backed some using titanium but how how to restore them?
What about the backup and and restore on the recovery? What is that used for?

aaa124 said:
I backed some using titanium but how how to restore them?
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After backing up with titanium on your old rom
Download titanium on your new rom and you can re-install, but beware that restoring data from different roms may cause FC's

Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.

esbenm said:
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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Yes, you can

aaa124 said:
I hate it when all apps are removed to change ROM. I want to try Nik's JB and I dont want apps to be removed whatsapp....
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Buy the premium version of titanium backup then you can batch install apps instead of installing one at a time.
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esbenm said:
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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Yep. What I usually do, is go on the batch section click restore app, and choose app only. And then use app+data for my games, so I don't lose my scores and saves.

You could always restore the data partition from your old ROMs nandroid backup. Works for me.

For rooted phone, I'd suggest Go Backup.
Titanium Backup is much more powerful, but some essential features, like batch backup/restore, require paid version. And it loads pretty slowly on my Incredible S.
Go Backup offers backing up both apps and their data, as well as SMS/call log/contacts/wi-fi access points. Go dev team has recently added backup merging feature, which works fine either.
Today I installed 4.1.1-based ROM from Nikhil, downloaded Go Backup from the Market, ran backup restoration and voila, in 5 minutes I got all my apps back, including paid ones.
This app is constantly being updated, which is also a weighty argument (at least for me).

Nonverbose said:
You could always restore the data partition from your old ROMs nandroid backup. Works for me.
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That seems like a great idea, anything not to do, or just copy and place..
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ragzdincs said:
That seems like a great idea, anything not to do, or just copy and place..
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I'm using 4ext, I just choose advanced restore and choose data partition.

So if I restore my ROM from a previous backup, it will restore all my apps with data too?
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TheDareDevil said:
So if I restore my ROM from a previous backup, it will restore all my apps with data too?
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If it's nandroid, sure

Nonverbose said:
I'm using 4ext, I just choose advanced restore and choose data partition.
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Thanks for the info, when Nicks new roms settle in a bit and I try them again I'm going to try your method.
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Is it really the same restoring an app from a backup as from Google play? Market links work and the app is registered by the os, integrated into the share menu (facebook for instance) and so on?
Just trying to learn how android works... Something like that would never work in windows, registry entries would probably break...

Nonverbose can you please explain more about the nandroid backup. I tried titanium and it worked.
I am curious about your method.
Best

aaa124 said:
Nonverbose can you please explain more about the nandroid backup. I tried titanium and it worked.
I am curious about your method.
Best
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nandroid is the backup/restore function in you recovery A nandroid backup will save your COMPLETE ROM with all apps, data and everything else. After a backup you can install whatever you want on your phone and install new things, whatever. And if you had enough, you can restore your backup and your entire phone will be just like when you did the backup It's also a great method to switch between ROMs for example your daily driver (let's say ProjectX) and JB Evolution You can configure both ROMs like you want it, do backups and switch between them The process of backing up/restoring a ROM takes about 5min.
I hope this answered all your questions

Yup I tried this one today but I didnt know it was called nandroid. Thanks

[Q] CWM 6.0.4.3 taking FOREVER to backup or restore

I was trying to play around with KitKat 4.4 on my AT&T HTC One today. All the forums here said to install the very latest CWM, which is 6.0.4.3.
I did install it successfully. But compared to the old version, 6.0.4.3 takes about 30 minutes literally to back up my phone or restore.
I'm figuring I'm doing something wrong? Any ideas, hints or tips?

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I was trying to play around with KitKat 4.4 on my AT&T HTC One today. All the forums here said to install the very latest CWM, which is 6.0.4.3.
I did install it successfully. But compared to the old version, 6.0.4.3 takes about 30 minutes literally to back up my phone or restore.
I'm figuring I'm doing something wrong? Any ideas, hints or tips?
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Anyone?

TheImpalaKid said:
Anyone?
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It took an HOUR for the phone to restore. So no one else is having this problem???????

TheImpalaKid said:
It took an HOUR for the phone to restore. So no one else is having this problem???????
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I had this problem today when I was restoring my T-Mobile HTC One.

solutions?
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I had this problem today when I was restoring my T-Mobile HTC One.
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SAME!!!
used to take like 10 min

TWRP or bust...it's touch and does everything in a flash (pun intended). I was on that same CWM. It took forever to do anything, and my hardware buttons were hating me for it.

TheImpalaKid said:
It took an HOUR for the phone to restore. So no one else is having this problem???????
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Toddchris said:
I had this problem today when I was restoring my T-Mobile HTC One.
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CanadianKB said:
SAME!!!
used to take like 10 min
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known issue with recent versions of CWM, better to move to TWRP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173870
(especially because 2.6.3.3+ support 4.4 ROMs)
downloads are here:
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7ul
(dont use a download manager on that site it wont work, and make sure MD5 is correct)

Twrp doesn't back up apps just system data unacceptable for me. I will try downgrading cwm. Damn updates making things worse....
I am correct about twrp right,? I've done backup/restore and ended up with only same layout settings etc but not apps
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CanadianKB said:
Twrp doesn't back up apps just system data unacceptable for me. I will try downgrading cwm. Damn updates making things worse....
I am correct about twrp right,? I've done backup/restore and ended up with only same layout settings etc but not apps
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In TWRP you have the option of what to backup:
* Boot
* Cache
* Data
* Recovery
* System
(so if you want everything, you need to select all the options)
If you want to stick with CWM, 6.0.3.2 works fine (but you can't use it for 4.4 ROMs), here's a link:
recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.2-m7--v2.img 7.2 MB
https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8RiIrQ!GF5LyhmEdg8OQJxuQVVjwSxBljxhW7xsZAHLzjVACsc
MD5: 1c6afb14db3f305b0ad7d85d5af80bef

I use the new cwm on 4.4 as u see xda app thinks I'm on a gt but I'm on a m919 and cwm works just super slow thanks for links I may downgrade I love that cwm backs up my APPS on top of everything else. After I restore it literally is a mirror image of right before backup. I always make backup before new mods that req root
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I switched to twrp had same problem restore was taking very long