I have a cabin and don't want to pay $70/mo for internet for a couple days a month. I wanted to root my Atrix so I could use it as an internet connection for a computer.
Thing is, the Atrix has HDMI out, and with this dock: cgi dot ebay dot com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140890170592
It has USB ports, which I'm guessing support a keyboard and mouse and maybe even an external hard drive?
So maybe the answer is to just use the Atrix as the computer (granted, I can't use CS5, UEStudio, Navicat, Putty...) Although, for $30 I can get logmein ignition and remote desktop to my main PC, where I can at least half-ass use those programs.
Guess my question is, besides the lack of windows-only apps, is there a big downside to using the Atrix in place of a PC?
Is Android support for peripherals any good?
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I have a cabin and don't want to pay $70/mo for internet for a couple days a month. I wanted to root my Atrix so I could use it as an internet connection for a computer.
Thing is, the Atrix has HDMI out, and with this dock: cgi dot ebay dot com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140890170592
It has USB ports, which I'm guessing support a keyboard and mouse and maybe even an external hard drive?
So maybe the answer is to just use the Atrix as the computer (granted, I can't use CS5, UEStudio, Navicat, Putty...) Although, for $30 I can get logmein ignition and remote desktop to my main PC, where I can at least half-ass use those programs.
Guess my question is, besides the lack of windows-only apps, is there a big downside to using the Atrix in place of a PC?
Is Android support for peripherals any good?
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Is Android support for peripherals any good? Well right now , no .
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Is Android support for peripherals any good? Well right now , no .
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Think I'll have problems with a keyboard and mouse? I didn't expect it would be great, but even Windows 98 and CentOS gui will work with a keyboard and mouse.
I ordered the dock, so I guess I'll see soon.
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Think I'll have problems with a keyboard and mouse? I didn't expect it would be great, but even Windows 98 and CentOS gui will work with a keyboard and mouse.
I ordered the dock, so I guess I'll see soon.
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Even Windows 98? Are you kidding me?
why not try a Bluetooth keyboard?
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Is it possible connect HD2 using some adapters to a TV/Monitor ?
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Is it possible connect HD2 using some adapters to a TV/Monitor ?
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From what I have read about this mobile so far, it does not allow that. Atleast out of box. Devs might be able to "enable" it if the functionality is built-in but locked down.
Mentioned here as well. So best wait and see.
And by the way, welcome to xda-devs! Hope you like it here...
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Any updates on this issue?
I would love to have my HD2 connected to TV using HDMI
i've read many articles about that but the only answer is NO, it isn't possible.
I don't think so, Tim.
I have a usb2.0->dvi adapter and I`m going to try it with my hd2 (android 2.2) within few days via micro usb 2 mini usb cable. But I`m pretty sure that this junk won`t work because of lack of drivers.
Nothing like that is going to work as of this moment. I have read that HTC is going to release a DLNA adapter for TVs to have access to streaming media, but it's not till around Feb of next year (and who knows what can happen between then and now). It seems it'll connect to the TV via HDMI cable and if you would rather not use it as a wireless streamer then you could just plug it in via cable (who knows how compatible it will all be though). So in a way it's closer than you think, but still far away and HTC could come up with some bogus excuse to not release it.
shame on htc...
I am told that there is a Keyboard/Screen/Trackpad dock for the Droid 3, if you don't mind that its keyboard shares its regular Qwerty keys with Chinease simbols besides our regular alphabet.
At least that whats my provider of tech stuff has told me. Does anyone know about it? (just to make sure that he doesn't charge me too much for it).
Thanks a million.
PS: I hope someone can provide me with more info before him; if not (and it was really true), I will try to post about it.
I think he is full of beans, I have never seen or heard of one, but this does not mean it doesn't exist or that there isn't one.
Someone could make an adapter cable that would retrofit the D3 into the Atrix dock if they were up to the task, but I haven't heard of a lapdock for the D3. Could you get a picture? You might have found something valuable!
Bionic Lapdock?
The HDMI and USB connectors on the Bionic appear to have the same positioning as the Droid 3. I would be curious to see if the Bionic's lapdock would work with the D3.
I'll try the Bionic dock as soon as possible.
Nope, there is no Webtop software on the D3. Nor is there 1gb of ram like there is on the Bionic, Atrix, Photon.... Even if it plugs in the D3 won't know how to interact with it.
You can however use HDMI mirroring, but the Droid 3 can't talk to a keyboard or mouse.
Now he changed the story...
Now this person says its an adaptor to the current lapdock, and the picture he saw has a Droid 3 conected using the adaptor.
While this might just mean Screen Mirroring instead of a parallel firefox, the keyboard indeed might not work.
At first I always suspected about the mirroring, but the keyboard could always has worked if it used the bluetooth as a method of comunicating if the USB didn't allowed out otherwise.
While I have tried more than one keyboard, and all seemed to work nicely, like the Palm Bluetooth Keyboard, even the Apple Wireless Keyboard, I am not sure if a mouse would work as well.
If it was true indeed about an adaptor, and it works, I will keep you posted.
By the way, what if, and this it a BIG if, the lapdock contains all the firefox IN it, and it just uses the disk/SD memory in the phone? wouldn't that make it more prone to be compatible? Thats just a thought...
According to this picture, you can flip the connectors around on the Atrix or Bionic Lapdock:
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...24&tag=thumbnail-view-selector;get-photo-roto
Hmmmm......
I can confirm the Motorola Lapdock 100 works just fine with the Droid 3. It lacks Webtop and some things are minor annoyances (like Swype pops out whenever you click a text box. Either click esc to make it go away or pull out the phone's keyboard a hair) In fact I'm typing this response from my Lapdock. The USB keyboard and mouse work just fine (I think that's built into Android) and my wireless mouse even works when I plug the dongle into the USB replicator on the back. I think the replicator also will accept a thumb drive or a keyboard.
Hello.
Can you make some movies from Droid 3 with Lapdock?
How is screen resolution in this combination? 960x540 or Lapdock native?
Thanks in advance and I am sorry for my bad English.
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I can confirm the Motorola Lapdock 100 works just fine with the Droid 3. It lacks Webtop and some things are minor annoyances (like Swype pops out whenever you click a text box. Either click esc to make it go away or pull out the phone's keyboard a hair) In fact I'm typing this response from my Lapdock. The USB keyboard and mouse work just fine (I think that's built into Android) and my wireless mouse even works when I plug the dongle into the USB replicator on the back. I think the replicator also will accept a thumb drive or a keyboard.
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Is this setup still working? I ask because I read a post on the Motorola forum where a guy's D3/Lapdock 100 worked as you describe until he took a call. Once the call was over, it went back to simple HDMI mirror, with no keyboard/mouse functionality, even after reboots, etc.
I picked one of these up for $59 and free shipping a few days ago, but it hasn't shipped yet:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190662411549
If the connectors need to be swapped around, I'll do it. It would be nice if it was a touchscreen, but I'm not going to complain too much. Will report back here the results and pictures if needed.
I got one of the Bionic docks in the $59 deal as well. It arrived today and the connectors do need to be flipped around. While the lapdock's native resolution is 1366x768, the Droid 3 will only output at 960x540. I'm hoping to use it with an RDP app, but none of the RDP apps work well with it.
Let me know if there are any questions on the functionality.
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I got one of the Bionic docks in the $59 deal as well. It arrived today and the connectors do need to be flipped around. While the lapdock's native resolution is 1366x768, the Droid 3 will only output at 960x540. I'm hoping to use it with an RDP app, but none of the RDP apps work well with it.
Let me know if there are any questions on the functionality.
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Do the keyboard and mouse work? I have a Atrix 4G one that I got from ebay for $59 sitting new in the box.
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I got one of the Bionic docks in the $59 deal as well. It arrived today and the connectors do need to be flipped around. While the lapdock's native resolution is 1366x768, the Droid 3 will only output at 960x540. I'm hoping to use it with an RDP app, but none of the RDP apps work well with it.
Let me know if there are any questions on the functionality.
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Why would the D3 only have an out put of 960x540? Can't it produce 1080p out on that HDMI connector?
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Why would the D3 only have an out put of 960x540? Can't it produce 1080p out on that HDMI connector?
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It outputs at 1080p, or at least my TV reports it as that but it looks like its just an upconverted 950x540 picture, since its duplicating the phone's screen. What would be nice is an option to have HDMI only (the phone screen is off) so it could actually produce a real 1920x1080 display, the hardware should be capable.
I pretty sure the D3 only outputs above 960x540 when you are playing a video only. I wonder if we can mod the D3 so it can always output to 1080p.
OK, so my $59 Atrix Lapdock showed up a few minutes ago. I opened up the carrier dock and flipped around the connectors. The dock needs to be dremelled a little bit, but once it's plugged in, the video is mirrored and the touchpad and keyboard function normally. It's just like an Android powered laptop at this point, with a 3G connection. Need to dig around for the webtop/lapdock app now and see if that's something I should care about. The resolution looks to be exactly the same as the phone, for now. I'm thinking a little hack could get the resolution upped.
Stay tuned.
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OK, so my $59 Atrix Lapdock showed up a few minutes ago. I opened up the carrier dock and flipped around the connectors. The dock needs to be dremelled a little bit, but once it's plugged in, the video is mirrored and the touchpad and keyboard function normally. It's just like an Android powered laptop at this point, with a 3G connection. Need to dig around for the webtop/lapdock app now and see if that's something I should care about. The resolution looks to be exactly the same as the phone, for now. I'm thinking a little hack could get the resolution upped.
Stay tuned.
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Thanks, the Motorola Gingerbread webtop app hasn't been ported because of RAM limitations. The Ubuntu on Android project is claiming 512MB as a minimum and will be released open source eventually so their is hope of running that someday if someone can port it. It requires no kernel modifications and runs on top of Android so it should be possible.
I will probably mod my Atrix 4G lapdock at some point.
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Thanks, the Motorola Gingerbread webtop app hasn't been ported because of RAM limitations. The Ubuntu on Android project is claiming 512MB as a minimum and will be released open source eventually so their is hope of running that someday if someone can port it. It requires no kernel modifications and runs on top of Android so it should be possible.
I will probably mod my Atrix 4G lapdock at some point.
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That's kind of what I was seeing, too. There appears to be other webtop-ish like apps on the market that do things when you plug them into HDMI. Researching them now.
But yeah, the Ubuntu on Android looks to be badass!
My laptop has a hdmi input. I was going to see how Earth and legend looked on a larger screen than a 4.3" screen. When I connect from the thrill to the laptop, nothing happens. Is it not possible to connect to the laptop or am I needing to click something?
I googled and youtubed but couldn't find anything related to the thrill and a laptop.
Thanks in advance.
Are you sure its an input, not an output? I have never heard of a laptop with a HDMI input, usually you want to put your laptop onto a big TV, instead of putting a peripheral onto a laptop screen.
The Thrill plays extremely nice with my 1080p Vizio. Netflix looks better using a HDMI cable and phone vs the native Netflix app on my TV. But, that might be because my phone consistently gets twice the bandwidth my home connection does.
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Oh I don't know. It's a port that's labeled HDMI. I just assumed it was an input. Okay, so is there anyway to run the HDMI to the laptop or is it pretty much a TV thing?
Maybe it could be done with special software. I also have a laptop with a HDMI port. I could not find anything remotely close to an option to turn that into an input through the Windows (W 7 64 bit ultimate) settings.
I also did a few Google searches about using a laptops HDMI port for input, and the resounding response I found was that its basically unheard of. They make special adapters for that, the run over USB. The "worlds first" laptop to natively support this feature came out less than a year ago.
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Are you sure its an input, not an output? I have never heard of a laptop with a HDMI input, usually you want to put your laptop onto a big TV, instead of putting a peripheral onto a laptop screen.
The Thrill plays extremely nice with my 1080p Vizio. Netflix looks better using a HDMI cable and phone vs the native Netflix app on my TV. But, that might be because my phone consistently gets twice the bandwidth my home connection does.
Sent from my LG Thrill Faux G
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It's not possible to turn your output into an input. It's a hardware limitation.
in this day and age why hell don't they make the laptop screen work like an optional monitor with most new devices being digital HD it should only add little to the cost.
Ok Speaking from hardware side
Ok I work for a large Semiconductor manufacture. That HDMI port is an output. In order to use your Laptop display try to find a TV Tuner for you laptop with HDMI inputs. They maybe hard to find if at all, and if you do find them they will be pricey.
Good Luck
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It's not possible to turn your output into an input. It's a hardware limitation.
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This is not exactly true...
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This is not exactly true...
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Depends. If the hardware doesnt allow for it then it wouldnt be possible on a software level. I assume thats what he meant. Of course with enough know how you could probably make changes on a hardware level to allow for it.
Cab anyone recommend a UK sourced HDMI cable which can be used with the special USB slot in the Nook Colour please? Thinking of getting Netflix
From what I recall, previous discussions pretty much ended with
"not possible"
If someone can correct me I'd be extremely pleased.
Nope, Nook doesn't have the hardware to support it.
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Yea, I don't think that's possible, plus the nook is pretty slow when it comes to netflix anyway, just HDMI connect a laptop if you have one, or game console. I would recommend a Dynex wire, cheap, but I've had 4 for the last two months for all of my hd consoles and tv's, no problems and exceptional video quality.
Newegg has cheap HDMI cables too.
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Yea, I don't think that's possible, plus the nook is pretty slow when it comes to netflix anyway, just HDMI connect a laptop if you have one, or game console. I would recommend a Dynex wire, cheap, but I've had 4 for the last two months for all of my hd consoles and tv's, no problems and exceptional video quality.
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My NC runs Netflix flawlessly on CM7. Returning to the topic, it is not possible.
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My NC runs Netflix flawlessly on CM7. Returning to the topic, it is not possible.
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Same here! Flawless...
...back on topic...
...NO HDMI.
Yeah, I wanted to try this awhile back. Here are some links I found looking into the topic;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061856
https://sites.google.com/site/voyageofbeagleboard/Home/displaylink-for-android
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
Essentially, it looks like there is a way to get android to write the framebuffer to the USB port, and some converters to get that out as a display, but I do not have anywhere near the skills to get it working and the adapters were prohibitively expensive for the gain.
My verdict is; Possible, but very unlikely.
You could get a Raspberry Pi and connect it to your Nook (or any tablet without HDMI) through WiFi. At only $35 or so (assuming you already have a WiFi router to plug it into), it's a very affordable solution. The software side would be tricky. I suppose you could just install Linux and a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi...
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You could get a Raspberry Pi and connect it to your Nook (or any tablet without HDMI) through WiFi. At only $35 or so (assuming you already have a WiFi router to plug it into), it's a very affordable solution. The software side would be tricky. I suppose you could just install Linux and a VNC server on the Raspberry Pi...
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For a good streamer. I am using modded atv2 (appletv) it supports netflix w/o anything else, plug and play. I use it everyday and with my NC supporting airplay .
Its here! The connectivity demo to end all connectivity demos - see what your Note 2 can do! Any questions feel free to ask
Make sure to use the time-stamped navigation links in the video description to get around.
Gear used in the video:
USB OTG cable
Externally powered USB hub (i-Rocks one)
Logitech K400 wireless USB keyboard/mouse combo
Xbox 360 for Windows controller
MHL adapter for Note 2
AllShare Cast Dongle
Datel Retro Wireless Controller - not available any longer as far as I can tell - keep an eye on Amazon and Ebay as it still appears there sometimes
Logitech "For Android" bluetooth keyboard
Logitech "For Android" bluetooth mouse (note that any HID profile bluetooth mouse should work)
Seagate GoFlex Satellite drive
Apps: N64oid, FPse, MX Player, Bubble UPnP, Wind Up Knight, USB/BT Joystick Centre
Beastwars bandcamp page - beastwars.bandcamp.com stream the whole album and purchase there with all proceeds going to the band!
Got to run now, but will add links to places to get some of the stuff a bit later on.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time you put in to show off all these cool features. I'm still waiting on Verizon to release the Note 2 unfortunetly. When using the Allshare dongle does the multi-screen feature work. For example could you watch Netflix and browse the web, and if so is it smooth. Thanks again for the video.
Oh, not tried it to be honest! Can't believe that slipped my mind, I will test it later and let you know.
Can someone please sticky this
very good video mate, amazing phone when you think about it!
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very good video mate, amazing phone when you think about it!
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Thanks dude!
...and yes, pretty amazing what these smartphones will do these days!
Totally second this post being stickied
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Oh, not tried it to be honest! Can't believe that slipped my mind, I will test it later and let you know.
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Thanks, and I'll third that sticky.
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Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time you put in to show off all these cool features. I'm still waiting on Verizon to release the Note 2 unfortunetly. When using the Allshare dongle does the multi-screen feature work. For example could you watch Netflix and browse the web, and if so is it smooth. Thanks again for the video.
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OK, tried it, but whenever you watch video it full-screens the video to the external display (it is still split screen on the device and you can interact with the other window, but I don't think that is what you were after?).
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Thanks, and I'll third that sticky.
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I think technically you would be seconding it, since I'm probably biased
is it possible to connect MHL adapter to USB hub (using a converter from 11pin microUSB to USB, if such thing does exists) so we can use HDTV mirroring and USB OTG simultaneously?
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is it possible to connect MHL adapter to USB hub (using a converter from 11pin microUSB to USB, if such thing does exists) so we can use HDTV mirroring and USB OTG simultaneously?
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No, it looks like the Smart Dock for the Note 2 will allow for both simultaneously though.
Best video I have seen all day
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OK, tried it, but whenever you watch video it full-screens the video to the external display (it is still split screen on the device and you can interact with the other window, but I don't think that is what you were after?).
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Oh that actually sounds pretty nice being able to stream video(hopefully Netflix) to the TV, and still browse on the phone. I was actually kinda hoping there would be a way to do exactly what you said it does. Thanks for trying that out, the days till they release it on Verizon are slowing down even more now.
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Oh that actually sounds pretty nice being able to stream video(hopefully Netflix) to the TV, and still browse on the phone. I was actually kinda hoping there would be a way to do exactly what you said it does. Thanks for trying that out, the days till they release it on Verizon are slowing down even more now.
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OK, cool!
I thought you wanted kinda a picture in picture/split screen deal on the TV, but even better if this was what you were after.
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Best video I have seen all day
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Thanks! Makes it all worthwhile
Had some requests via PM for information on pairing with PS3 controllers using OTG cables instead of the method that requires a PC, so thought I would post a link to this for those people and others:
What ROM are you used??
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What ROM are you used??
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Pure stock with Root.
Using Nova Launcher with dock icons from ADW WP7 theme.
Is there a specific otg usb cable for the Note 2, more specifically t889 ? I had been searching every scenario , 5 pin, t889, etc. and can't find any that specifically mention for the Note 2. Meanwhile, I read posts and comments about people connecting the wrong usb otg and bricking their phone. What are you using? Thanks~
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Is there a specific otg usb cable for the Note 2, more specifically t889 ? I had been searching every scenario , 5 pin, t889, etc. and can't find any that specifically mention for the Note 2. Meanwhile, I read posts and comments about people connecting the wrong usb otg and bricking their phone. What are you using? Thanks~
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No, no specific cable, any USB OTG cable should work fine. Never ever heard of anyone bricking a device using a USB OTG cable - do you have links for these posts? I have to wonder what those people were doing if their phones bricked...