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Loosing data when the phone goes into sleep mode

Hi, I 'm facing this problem for a long time, I haven't found any solution yet.
When the phone is awake, everything goes well, I can surf, send and receive whatsapps, etc, whenever I want.
After I lock it and it goes into sleep state, I still can receive whatsapps for about 5-10 minutes. But after that I no longer receive anything.
Sometimes I receive them an hour later after they were sent.
After that, when I unlock the phone, it always shows the network data icon, enabled and active , but when I try to surf or chat, 95% of times, I don't have internet, it stays loading forever, until I disable and re-enable the data.
Of course, after this , I installed an app to check my network traffic, called "network monitor mini".
When this error happens, I have 0 bytes being transferred, whatever I do or open, nothing is able to communicate over internet, until I reset the data and it works again.
This happens to me in all roms, LG stock, Zeus and also CM7.
Is anybody having this issues too? Or how to fix it, check the causes or wtf is happening there?
For now I have been unlocking the phone every 15-20 minutes and checking if it has data conection.
Thanks

dabyd64 said:
Hi, I 'm facing this problem for a long time, I haven't found any solution yet.
When the phone is awake, everything goes well, I can surf, send and receive whatsapps, etc, whenever I want.
After I lock it and it goes into sleep state, I still can receive whatsapps for about 5-10 minutes. But after that I no longer receive anything.
Sometimes I receive them an hour later after they were sent.
After that, when I unlock the phone, it always shows the network data icon, enabled and active , but when I try to surf or chat, 95% of times, I don't have internet, it stays loading forever, until I disable and re-enable the data.
Of course, after this , I installed an app to check my network traffic, called "network monitor mini".
When this error happens, I have 0 bytes being transferred, whatever I do or open, nothing is able to communicate over internet, until I reset the data and it works again.
This happens to me in all roms, LG stock, Zeus and also CM7.
Is anybody having this issues too? Or how to fix it, check the causes or wtf is happening there?
For now I have been unlocking the phone every 15-20 minutes and checking if it has data conection.
Thanks
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Another sacred phone. More and more OB's having Cancer...

Maybe flashing new roms too much is a bad idea.
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cathaclac said:
Maybe flashing new roms too much is a bad idea.
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Maybe its a good thing to wipe everything with smartflash tool and then installing the custom rom, to ensure that everything is erased.
Who knows, I'll try it in a while...

dabyd64 said:
Maybe its a good thing to wipe everything with smartflash tool and then installing the custom rom, to ensure that everything is erased.
Who knows, I'll try it in a while...
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good luck

That happen to me a few times, but its wierd cause sometimes it goes into a really deep sleep i.e. downloading something from market and phone locks itself, after a while I unlock it and "downloading %" is the same when it locked [wifi is set to "always on" of course]...
The rest of the time is ok, which is almost all the time, actually I haven't had that issues from a few months ago... BTW I'm now using supressedV7

I've got the exact same problem. I initially had it with stock rom, then I changed to zeus and had it there as well.
However I stuck with Zeus and the problem went away after a few of his updates.
I received SODs with Zeus though so I changed to Suppressed ROM and then the data problem was back.
I'm now on rooted stock V20G, but I haven't had a chance to test the data yet.

I had it before too with all roms except lemmings then with boype cm7 it seemed like it went away too until two days ago .... sigh... sometimes I just leave the wifi on and that seems to help abit...
just sayin....

Ok right now I'm trying out this app "3g connection fixer" from the market. It automatically restarts the 3g connection when it detects a problem. Seems to be working well so far. I don't see any actions from the app but I am keeping my connection better since 8pm last night. Might be worth a shot
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Ok the connection fixer app was a hit and miss for me, now I'm using this cooltool from market seems to be better, no doubt the app seems unrelated to the problem but I believe the loss in connection is due to radio going into deep sleep and not being able to wake up promptly. This app runs in the background and somewhat prevents that from happening I think..... of course that's just my assumption, but my data and phone seems to be running well after installing this app since 2 days ago..... and it also has a cool floating widget that moves (see screenshot)
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just sayin....

Hey, what was this new app you are using. My problem still persists

Its called cool tool from the market another one you could try is wakelock from darken both help me with my problem but it still does happen sometimes
just sayin....

I also had that problem sometimes. You should change the title to "data connection" not only data, cause this sounds a bit confusing. But what ROM are you using/are you sure, it happens in all? Maybe it's one of the build.prop or other "tweaks" that cause the problem... Try to flash only stock with root and see if it also happens there. I dont have the problem currently, with my own selfmade ROM, without any of those "tweaks"...

With stock its fine also with lemmings and Zeus up till v4ish I think (when huexx ) implemented the toggles with boype it happens too but alot less
just sayin....
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I also had that problem sometimes. You should change the title to "data connection" not only data, cause this sounds a bit confusing. But what ROM are you using/are you sure, it happens in all? Maybe it's one of the build.prop or other "tweaks" that cause the problem... Try to flash only stock with root and see if it also happens there. I dont have the problem currently, with my own selfmade ROM, without any of those "tweaks"...
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Mind sharing your rom so I can try the data connection thing
just sayin....

It's not really a new ROM, I just flashed the v20s European version, injected CWM, flashed superuser.zip, uninstalled some apk's I dont need, added supercharger. I simply didnt use any so called "Tweaks" since they often seem to bring more problems (at least in my opinion), than they actually bring of advantage... I mean LG doesnt use those tweaks for a reason what that reason is? I dont know, but probably incompatibility with some user behaviour or some networks/phones. That's why I am on stock GB, till we get ICS, cause I need a reliable phone.

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It's not really a new ROM, I just flashed the v20s European version, injected CWM, flashed superuser.zip, uninstalled some apk's I dont need, added supercharger. I simply didnt use any so called "Tweaks" since they often seem to bring more problems (at least in my opinion), than they actually bring of advantage... I mean LG doesnt use those tweaks for a reason what that reason is? I dont know, but probably incompatibility with some user behaviour or some networks/phones. That's why I am on stock GB, till we get ICS, cause I need a reliable phone.
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Yeah I probably should do the same too....
just sayin....

It might be network related because it happens with different ROM's, and most probably it's about the fast dormancy thing.
Don't blame the "good ol' phone" for nothing.

I still have the problem with stock ROM and I have tried different SIM cards. I have now sent the phone back to LG and we will see what solution they come up with...

Haven't had wakelock drainage since 2013 - so how's your Nexus 4 treating you?

The Nexus 4 is getting better with time. 4.3 went crazy on me so often I can't tell you, Google Keep, Calendar, Google Now! (now off) and other rogue apps causing wakelocks left and right... then KitKat came - with a rough start - and since on 4.4.2, I can't recall a single wakelock battery drainage. So much so that my utter disappointment of WLDetector unsupported then complicated on ART 4.4 quickly went away, and like task killers back in the day, wake fighting now seems like deeds of distant past...
So yeah, standby improved a great bit, just the other days I cracked the 100 hour barrier (not much stuff done, but with WiFi & hi accuracy on), so things are pretty nice. Now when traveling a lot, high accuracy taxes the battery plus ART runtime (the best thing in 2013) appears to be a bit heavier on resources. But oh the goodies of it! Spent like 2 hours last week playing around with the Z1, Z1 compact, Note 3, G2, couple of Lumias and HTCs, and all were noticeably laggier - no, they all had lags and stutters, this Nexus doesn't. Other than the choppy framerates of Real Racing 3 heh... We have an AndroiPhone on our hands, guys!
The 3rd thing I wanna say is how awesome and 'goodbye Nova' Action Launcher is, one home screen, swype right for app list, left for bookmarks/custom widgets, up for recents, down for notifications, tap on icons to launch app, swype over to pop-up folders or widgets - this thing is so simple and useful! Awesome to get the app & swype widget menu in any app too.
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2014 on the Nexus 4 has been quite awesome so far for me! How about you?

Wakelock? What's that?
No seriously, after the 4.4.2 KK update, everything went from good to great! Battery life really improved! So it all boils down to which ROM and kernel you're going to use to drive your Nexus 4. Quite happy with what i have right now.

Without wakelocks your device wouldnt get up from deep sleep to get notifications, etc. For example WhatsApp has 250+ wake-locks. Hence wakelocks arent bad. Wakelocks turn into a bad thing when they are unnecessary i.e the device will wake up for no reason or wont go to deep sleep, hence lesser battery life.
A partial wakelock means the CPU is ON, but the screen is OFF.
A full wakelock means the CPU and Screen are ON. (we don't really need to worry about this)
So the whole concept of saying u haven't had wakelocks since 2013 is flawed.
Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/kernel-wakelocks-t1462020

Well, I wish I could be as fortunate as you are. I have massive issues with msn_hsic_host kernel wakelock. Pretty much had it since I bought the phone a year ago. My feeling is that it got worse again with 4.4
On wifi everything is fine. On mobile data it can be ok or terrible. No way to tell why or when. A reboot solves it but I usually doesn't notice until the battery is already drained.
So my options seems to be to reboot the phone everytime I leave a wifi network or to use my Nexus as a dumphone. Right now I have background data restricted so it is pretty much a dumphone. Another option would be throw out this piece of **** and buy a good phone.

lndulgence said:
Wakelock? What's that?
No seriously, after the 4.4.2 KK update, everything went from good to great! Battery life really improved! So it all boils down to which ROM and kernel you're going to use to drive your Nexus 4. Quite happy with what i have right now.
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Glad I'm not alone, Indulgence!
sandy-achar said:
Without wakelocks your device wouldnt get up from deep sleep to get notifications, etc. For example WhatsApp has 250+ wake-locks. Hence wakelocks arent bad. Wakelocks turn into a bad thing when they are unnecessary i.e the device will wake up for no reason or wont go to deep sleep, hence lesser battery life.
A partial wakelock means the CPU is ON, but the screen is OFF.
A full wakelock means the CPU and Screen are ON. (we don't really need to worry about this)
So the whole concept of saying u haven't had wakelocks since 2013 is flawed.
Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/kernel-wakelocks-t1462020
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Thx, yeah you're right obviously, I should've said I haven't had any wakelock battery loops or whatnot, I changed the title. But you get the point. Things are great. :good:
Zinken said:
Well, I wish I could be as fortunate as you are. I have massive issues with msn_hsic_host kernel wakelock. Pretty much had it since I bought the phone a year ago. My feeling is that it got worse again with 4.4
On wifi everything is fine. On mobile data it can be ok or terrible. No way to tell why or when. A reboot solves it but I usually doesn't notice until the battery is already drained.
So my options seems to be to reboot the phone everytime I leave a wifi network or to use my Nexus as a dumphone. Right now I have background data restricted so it is pretty much a dumphone. Another option would be throw out this piece of **** and buy a good phone.
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Sorry to hear that, no issues as such here. Maybe a factory reset? I'm sure you tried that already. Anyway, quick search brought this up, so I'm sharing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297291

BoneXDA said:
Glad I'm not alone, Indulgence!
Thx, yeah you're right obviously, I should've said I haven't had any wakelock battery loops or whatnot, I changed the title. But you get the point. Things are great. :good:
Sorry to hear that, no issues as such here. Maybe a factory reset? I'm sure you tried that already. Anyway, quick search brought this up, so I'm sharing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297291
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Thanks for sharing but I have already googled my *ss off about this, nothing seems to help (other than disabling mobile data). I found 2 threads in google products forum about this where google employees admit that they are aware of the issue and investigating. Only problem is that those responses are many months old and the threads are closed due to inactivity.
Haven't done a factory reset on 4.4.2 but I did a clean install when moving to 4.4 - really hope to avoid losing all my data again.
Maybe I need to try to move away from stock and try a different ROM/kernel but that was one of the main reasons I bought the nexus, to have the latest android without having to flash. To easy to get addicted :silly:

What setup are u using? Audio mix, msim wakelocks are a pain in my arse right now
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

razi914 said:
What setup are u using? Audio mix, msim wakelocks are a pain in my arse right now
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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Was that directed to me?
I'm completely stock 4.4.2. Google Now and location off. No "shadowy" apps, just mainstream popular apps on play store.
Still terrible wakelocks. With wifi or background data restricted it behaves "as it should".

Zinken said:
Was that directed to me?
I'm completely stock 4.4.2. Google Now and location off. No "shadowy" apps, just mainstream popular apps on play store.
Still terrible wakelocks. With wifi or background data restricted it behaves "as it should".
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To the OP actually, u face my situation btw!!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

razi914 said:
What setup are u using? Audio mix, msim wakelocks are a pain in my arse right now
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Stock unrooted 4.4.2 on ART (no FR), no Now!, 2G network preference (I'm almost exclusively near WiFi), Action Launcher with 6-7 widgets updating, GPS high accuracy mode. Wifi always on, but auto-search for networks off, no location sharing etc.
However today I installed Google Now Launcher, which means Now is active, let's see how it treats standby, probably bad. Oh and BTW, I run Google Now Launcher run over Action Launcher so I still retain the nice side-swype function, so it's a good mix, although GNL is quite limited and I'd prefer having "OK Google" listening on AL.
In other news: I did 2 further things to simplify my life:
- remove the dust and fingerprint collecting screen protector, tapping feels much nicer, navigation is much easier screen is a lot cleaner and the gorilla glass doesn't collect finger oil as much. Seriously guys, don't ruin your experience with cases and protectors, you treat your phone right, and it will treat you back
- turn off lockscreen. Since I look after my phone, there's little chance of theft and there's still locking option from any computer, so why lockscreen then? Whatever that was on it is on my homescreen (DashClock widget with notifications, camera icon plus everything else), lockscreen is... redundancy

At a good place right now on 4.3. Have everything I need: touch control, pie, halo, lte. Less I look for wakelocks,the more I notice the phone does pretty decent on battery. One time I came home from work with 74% battery (min usage- about 2 hour talk time on bluetooth). I never turn of lte and wifi. :good:

[Q&A] [ROM][AOSP] Google Edition S4/ Pure Nexus[SAFESTRAP] Feb 24th, 2015

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Just flashed this without having any trouble during the process until I powered off afterwards - or, attempted to. It hung on the power off screen, so I had to hold down the power button in order to turn it off. After I booted up again, Google Play Store crashed. I managed to get it to work long enough to install a few other apps (Textra, Lookout, Themer, and Dashclock) by disabling the Play Store app and then opening it. Whenever I tried to open these apps, they crashed upon opening and the app icon changed to the Android bot icon instead of the app's normal icon and the package name instead of the app name. After the first downloaded app crashed, then I got an error that Google Play Store crashed, and its icon changed the same way. I then attempted a factory reset within the ROM, but it hung on the power off screen. I held the power button again, booted back up, and it looks like all the preinstalled apps work except Play Store. When I try to test SuperSU, it says that Play Store has stopped and does not load a list of apps. Now, Google Now is saying that I "need Google Play Services, which is not supported by your device." Any idea what went wrong?

Had a similar problem, my mistake was not to follow the procedure EXACTLY as stated. It turns out that I did not wiped everything except from what's in the sd card, did that and boom! A nice ROM to play with. Give it a try.

I might give it a try again, but I know for a fact that I performed the wipe correctly.

Please, do tell how it went.

Worked this time! Thanks for your help!

Works great but have quite poor battery life, refuses to go into deep sleep.
msm-hsic-host wakelock, horrible wakelock pins the cpu 384 mhz min.
bugs ive found-
using the cast screen button renders a blank screen to my chrome cast.

Yup, battery life is pretty crappy. But had a similar battery life with stock NE3 firmware. In a couple of weeks I'll be getting a new battery. Bought my phone from eBay and it came with a used one, I'm just guessing at the moment.

I lost 30% overnight but this morning changed some wifi settings and loaded up betterbatterystats to see what's causing the wakelocks. Maybe it's something straightforward. I like the aosp a lot and going to try and make this rom work as a daily driver.
I'll post any findings or improvements.

ChristopherXDA said:
I lost 30% overnight but this morning changed some wifi settings and loaded up betterbatterystats to see what's causing the wakelocks. Maybe it's something straightforward. I like the aosp a lot and going to try and make this rom work as a daily driver.
I'll post any findings or improvements.
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If possible go to the "raw info" in bbs, and check out your kernel wake locks, as far as the software went on this rom I saw no serious wakelocks, but when I switched to kernel view that's where the problem was. I lost all 80% over a period of ten hours while sleeping the other day. Thats with nothing installed but what came with the rom.

bestestever said:
If possible go to the "raw info" in bbs, and check out your kernel wake locks, as far as the software went on this rom I saw no serious wakelocks, but when I switched to kernel view that's where the problem was. I lost all 80% over a period of ten hours while sleeping the other day. Thats with nothing installed but what came with the rom.
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Yep, same here. Phone never enters deep sleep. After about 3 hours lost 10% of battery. 80% of the partial wakelocks were msm_hsic_host wakes.

I think the issue has to do with the wifi. Even though wifi is set to be off when the screen's off, betterbatterystats shows the wifi is on 100% of the time. This makes some sense since there appears to be an issue with the wifi driver where after a full reboot my wifi won't work until I do a hotboot. This happens for everyone else right?
I will try and look into the wifi fix that was part of the masterpatch and see if that provides any fixes.

Google edition pure nexus safestrap i537
tHANKS HOPE IT WORKS
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Unable to mount system original? that is the last message I get before last reboot. please help.

Littile things
Speaker phone NOT working.. (I can hear the caller, but they cant hear me)
Cant get Tethering to work either. It activates but cant find it as a hot-spot/AP on my devices.
Do get ghosts vibes every once in a while.

S4 Active Speaker Phone Fix
rockinwaggy said:
The issue with speakerphone, for me, is that the other end of the call doesn't hear anything when using speakerphone. Turn speakerphone off and it's back to normal.
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ChristopherXDA said:
Is your speaker phone working on calls?
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McJeg said:
Speaker phone NOT working.. (I can hear the caller, but they cant hear me)
Cant get Tethering to work either. It activates but cant find it as a hot-spot/AP on my devices.
Do get ghosts vibes every once in a while.
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This is a known issue on the S4 Active as discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412645
Flashing the file labeled "S4 Active Speaker Phone Fix" aka "S4_Active_Call_Record_Fix.zip" fixed this issue for me.
ChristopherXDA, it appears you were involved in the original fix!
Joe-Tech, you may want to incorporate the zip's changes to the sound configs in /system/etc/snd_soc_msm into your next S4 Active build.

Ha, oh man thats a little embarassing. You're right, that fix works on this Rom too.
I tried some of the other fixes though like for Wi-Fi in the masterpatch and that doesn't work on this rom.

k3u::straylight said:
This is a known issue on the S4 Active as discussed here: <url>
Flashing the file labeled "S4 Active Speaker Phone Fix" aka "S4_Active_Call_Record_Fix.zip" fixed this issue for me.
ChristopherXDA, it appears you were involved in the original fix!
Joe-Tech, you may want to incorporate the zip's changes to the sound configs in /system/etc/snd_soc_msm into your next S4 Active build.
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Thank you so much, this issue was bothering me because I kept forgetting and putting people on speaker lol. Fix worked perfectly, I can confirm

Love this ROM, battery life is poop, but, can bear with it. Here is my antutu score.
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I see little feedback for this ROM. What can I do to give give more accurate and useful info?

fuel426 said:
I see little feedback for this ROM. What can I do to give give more accurate and useful info?
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The rom is generally problem free. Aside from the battery life, it's quite solid. Both of his nexus style roms have this msm_hsic_host wakelock problem (I've tested the GE S4 rom). He is aware of this issue. Unfortunately, he has had some personal things happen lately, so he's not available to work on the rom. Family comes first.
Also, I recently test DS Battery Saver from the Play Store. Even on its most aggressive battery saving mode, deep sleep was never entered. So, don't bother.

Question NE2215 C21 battery life much better

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With this version i cna get 8 hrS SOT

[NE2211] C21 Battery Life Worst Only :'( May Be For My Phone ?​

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[NE2211] C21 Battery Life Worst Only :'( May Be For My Phone ?​
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I am on the same version and it's gotten worse for me.

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
I am on the same version and it's gotten worse for me.
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I honestly think it's your apps buddy.. either that or maybe thermals or maybe extremely weak signal in some of your location.
My money's on apps.

You can hv good battery if you turn 5g off, always use 4g only

dladz said:
I honestly think it's your apps buddy.. either that or maybe thermals or maybe extremely weak signal in some of your location.
My money's on apps.
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Let me show you what apps I have, here you go.

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
Let me show you what apps I have, here you go.
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Yea that's not a lot to be honest, what about thermals?
Signal strength?
What SOT are you actually getting?
Also are you rooted? Is so then why are you using vanced micro G? There's no need for it.
I've never used re-vanced, just vanced.. never heard of it

dladz said:
Yea that's not a lot to be honest, what about thermals?
Signal strength?
What SOT are you actually getting?
Also are you rooted? Is so then why are you using vanced micro G? There's no need for it.
I've never used re-vanced, just vanced.. never heard of it
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Thermals - I live in a cool place, and my phone thermals are quite normal all the time.
Signal Strength - I mostly use WiFi 5Ghz. I am a bit far from the router so like it's somewhat poor strength.
SOT (right now) - I charged my phone to 91% yesterday and right now I am at 54% after 2 and a half hour of screen time (for the first time)
Root (micro g)- Revanced is the same thing as vanced but it's like continuing the legacy of it as it no longer is supported. Actually, I might attach the github for it, if you're interested I will also attach a youtube video for your to follow and get the app. Micro g is used to actually set up my google account and connect it with youtube revanced. Other than that, it's useless for me. But here you go with all the files for it.
Revanced -->https://github.com/revanced
How to install and set up the whole app -->
Hope this helps

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
Thermals - I live in a cool place, and my phone thermals are quite normal all the time.
Signal Strength - I mostly use WiFi 5Ghz. I am a bit far from the router so like it's somewhat poor strength.
SOT (right now) - I charged my phone to 91% yesterday and right now I am at 54% after 2 and a half hour of screen time (for the first time)
Root (micro g)- Revanced is the same thing as vanced but it's like continuing the legacy of it as it no longer is supported. Actually, I might attach the github for it, if you're interested I will also attach a youtube video for your to follow and get the app. Micro g is used to actually set up my google account and connect it with youtube revanced. Other than that, it's useless for me. But here you go with all the files for it.
Revanced -->https://github.com/revanced
How to install and set up the whole app -->
Hope this helps
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Vanced still very much works mate. You should only be using micro G if you're not rooted.
As for your WiFi if your router has 5Ghz then it almost certainly has 2.4 so split the channels instead of having the one smart one, just add 'Long range ' to the SSID of the 2.4 to differentiate between the two, your phone will use more power to grab the 5Ghz connection, same as it will if your mobile signal is weak... The battery impact can be significant.
Are you using QHD or FHD? I'm using FHD because there's literally no difference, it's a 6"screen not a TV, go for FHD mate..
Thanks for re-vanced but I have vanced working just fine, I just don't have automatic updates turned on, pointless as I choose what i want when I need it.

dladz said:
Vanced still very much works mate. You should only be using micro G if you're not rooted.
As for your WiFi if your router has 5Ghz then it almost certainly has 2.4 so split the channels instead of having the one smart one, just add 'Long range ' to the SSID of the 2.4 to differentiate between the two, your phone will use more power to grab the 5Ghz connection, same as it will if your mobile signal is weak... The battery impact can be significant.
Are you using QHD or FHD? I'm using FHD because there's literally no difference, it's a 6"screen not a TV, go for FHD mate..
Thanks for re-vanced but I have vanced working just fine, I just don't have automatic updates turned on, pointless as I choose what i want when I need it.
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Yeah no worries, I am using FHD also my phone is not rooted so I am using micro G and I switched to 2.4Ghz wifi option and will let you know if I see any difference.
Thanks

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
Yeah no worries, I am using FHD also my phone is not rooted so I am using micro G and I switched to 2.4Ghz wifi option and will let you know if I see any difference.
Thanks
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No worries buddy, use the like button
Rooting is worth it btw, it's super easy too.
Interested to see how you get on

dladz said:
No worries buddy, use the like button
Rooting is worth it btw, it's super easy too.
Interested to see how you get on
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Uhh, I don't know but does rooting fix or improve the battery life? How is it worth it? Any benefits you might wanna explain?

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
Uhh, I don't know but does rooting fix or improve the battery life? How is it worth it? Any benefits you might wanna explain?
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Well... Where to begin....
1. Apps,
Swift back up, you can back up / restore apps in their absolute current state, eg: your stuck in a game, click back up, try - fail, restore app, to again from before you failed, also useful if you wipe your phone, this can be cloud survived synced.
AdAway - true system wide ad blocking.
Root access to your phones files and folders.
Wifi kill - kick people off your WiFi your connected to, apps like this require root access, obviously for educational purposes
There's too many to mention but the sky is the limit here.
2. Magisk modules, unlimited Google photos back up, block apps from seeing your rooted so you can still use them (banks etc)
3. Customisation / mods, I've got a thread for moving your clock to the center instead of over on the left, looks a lot better tbh, there are other mods out there plus theming like substratum (haven't tested this too much but I've seen themes on other people's devices)
4. Custom ROMs, GSI's, custom ROMs aren't yet available but GSI's are, you'll lose some things like fingerprint but you can have pixel experience running on your 10 pro which is nice, there's about 10 GSI's you can install.
5. Knowledge, having a tweak is a great way to learn more about Android, it never ends, there's always something more you can do and make better, for me this is what Android is all about, by not rooting you're essentially using a closed source device, may as well get an iPhone.
Lastly, it's a OnePlus device and they really don't care if you unlock the bootloader or not, I've returned 2 devices in the past with unlocked bootloader's and they just don't care, so it's risk free.
This is a brief rundown of why I would root, bare in mind that this may not be around forever so get in there while you can.
Least that's my thoughts on it.

dladz said:
Well... Where to begin....
1. Apps,
Swift back up, you can back up / restore apps in their absolute current state, eg: your stuck in a game, click back up, try - fail, restore app, to again from before you failed, also useful if you wipe your phone, this can be cloud survived synced.
AdAway - true system wide ad blocking.
Root access to your phones files and folders.
Wifi kill - kick people off your WiFi your connected to, apps like this require root access, obviously for educational purposes
There's too many to mention but the sky is the limit here.
2. Magisk modules, unlimited Google photos back up, block apps from seeing your rooted so you can still use them (banks etc)
3. Customisation / mods, I've got a thread for moving your clock to the center instead of over on the left, looks a lot better tbh, there are other mods out there plus theming like substratum (haven't tested this too much but I've seen themes on other people's devices)
4. Custom ROMs, GSI's, custom ROMs aren't yet available but GSI's are, you'll lose some things like fingerprint but you can have pixel experience running on your 10 pro which is nice, there's about 10 GSI's you can install.
5. Knowledge, having a tweak is a great way to learn more about Android, it never ends, there's always something more you can do and make better, for me this is what Android is all about, by not rooting you're essentially using a closed source device, may as well get an iPhone.
Lastly, it's a OnePlus device and they really don't care if you unlock the bootloader or not, I've returned 2 devices in the past with unlocked bootloader's and they just don't care, so it's risk free.
This is a brief rundown of why I would root, bare in mind that this may not be around forever so get in there while you can.
Least that's my thoughts on it.
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That's really nice to hear, now you motivated me to root my device for the first time ever. I HAVE LEGIT NO CLUE AT ALL. LIKE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHERE TO START. Should I just follow your guide or do I have to do something before that? Please guide me through this as I don't wanna break my phone
Appreciate your time man!!!

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
That's really nice to hear, now you motivated me to root my device for the first time ever. I HAVE LEGIT NO CLUE AT ALL. LIKE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHERE TO START. Should I just follow your guide or do I have to do something before that? Please guide me through this as I don't wanna break my phone
Appreciate your time man!!!
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No worries..
I'm in bed at the moment as it's 03:40 but will point you in the right direction.
My guide does contain everything you need to do to gain root access...
But before then you'd need to unlock your bootloader, there's a plethora of guides on how to do this in numerous threads in the 10 pro forum, have a look and familiarize yourself with the terminology.
You'll need:
1. Your phone charged to 50 or above to be safe
2. Original cable.
3. Windows 10 or above 10 preferred.
4. ADB/fastboot files with the USB driver (found in my guide)
5. But of patience and a willingness to pick up new knowledge.
All the tweaks and changes you can make is superb but getting to it and back although not difficult dictates that you do know certain things or are willing to pick them up.
Start by having a read and backing up your data, then go from there.
Bare in mind that unlocking the bootloader will erase the devices content.

dladz said:
No worries..
I'm in bed at the moment as it's 03:40 but will point you in the right direction.
My guide does contain everything you need to do to gain root access...
But before then you'd need to unlock your bootloader, there's a plethora of guides on how to do this in numerous threads in the 10 pro forum, have a look and familiarize yourself with the terminology.
You'll need:
1. Your phone charged to 50 or above to be safe
2. Original cable.
3. Windows 10 or above 10 preferred.
4. ADB/fastboot files with the USB driver (found in my guide)
5. But of patience and a willingness to pick up new knowledge.
All the tweaks and changes you can make is superb but getting to it and back although not difficult dictates that you do know certain things or are willing to pick them up.
Start by having a read and backing up your data, then go from there.
Bare in mind that unlocking the bootloader will erase the devices content.
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Thank you so much!!

regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
I am on the same version and it's gotten worse for me.
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But Standby Idle Battery Drain Is Good . Because Night 11.30PM To Morning 10.15AM -> My Battery Drain 3% Only

jack_ssl said:
But Standby Idle Battery Drain Is Good . Because Night 11.30PM To Morning 10.15AM -> My Battery Drain 3% Only
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Yeah same!

jack_ssl said:
But Standby Idle Battery Drain Is Good . Because Night 11.30PM To Morning 10.15AM -> My Battery Drain 3% Only
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You can get less than that, 0-1% overnight on older devices.. I've managed 1% before. ATM I get around 3-4% loss i think..will have to check...I'm on A17 though (android 12)

for my phone, i only got -4% for 8hrs sleep time, 100% before sleep, 96% left when i get up in the morning

Question Sometimes apps close as soon as I open them

I bought a Samsung S23+ a week ago. I'm really like it. It's a significant improvement over my old S10.
However, sometimes when I open an app, it immediately closes. It just goes away. No error message, it just disappears. However, tapping on it again brings it up. It isn't consistent which app suddenly closes; it just does. And sometimes it's a major feature of Android, such as Messages. A few times I've tapped on Messages, it starts to come up, then closes immediately. But why does it do that? Is there anything I can do to stop it?

You do a clean load or use SmartSwitch?
Clear system cache.

blackhawk said:
You do a clean load or use SmartSwitch?
Clear system cache.
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I'm sorry, I don't follow you. What do you mean by "clean load" and what's a "SmartSwitch"? What I have done is tried to open an app, like Messages, to have the app initially open, but the immediately close. Not always and not the same app.
And how do I clear the system cache?

Rod F said:
I'm sorry, I don't follow you. What do you mean by "clean load" and what's a "SmartSwitch"? What I have done is tried to open an app, like Messages, to have the app initially open, but the immediately close. Not always and not the same app.
And how do I clear the system cache?
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I think by "clean load" he means booting up the phone and not restoring any previous backup from google or from the samsung account. Smartswitch is a samsung app that allows you to copy the data from one phone to another. It tends to cause some issues, or carry on issues from the previous smartphones.
I recently traded my N20U for a S23 and used smart switch for i didn't have all my stuff backed up. the phone was overheating and the battery was draining hella fast. I did a clean load and everything is fine; except for this problem of apps closing all of the sudden. Clean loading didn't fixed it for me.
To clear the system cache you have to enter the recovery mode by shutting down your phone and pressing power + volume up until it boots and goes into the recovery mode. From there you can delete the cache. I will try it later and report back.
Today i have received the prompt for the february update, but i am still on january patch.

guile50 said:
I think by "clean load" he means booting up the phone and not restoring any previous backup from google or from the samsung account. Smartswitch is a samsung app that allows you to copy the data from one phone to another. It tends to cause some issues, or carry on issues from the previous smartphones.
I recently traded my N20U for a S23 and used smart switch for i didn't have all my stuff backed up. the phone was overheating and the battery was draining hella fast. I did a clean load and everything is fine; except for this problem of apps closing all of the sudden. Clean loading didn't fixed it for me.
To clear the system cache you have to enter the recovery mode by shutting down your phone and pressing power + volume up until it boots and goes into the recovery mode. From there you can delete the cache. I will try it later and report back.
Today i have received the prompt for the february update, but i am still on january patch.
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Exactly.
Which apps are acting up?

blackhawk said:
Exactly.
Which apps are acting up?
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Telegram, GBwhatsapp and twitter are very frequent. Once and a while a random app crashes, but happens twice a day at most. IK GB is a modded app but it and none of the other apps displayed this behaviour on my previous phones.

guile50 said:
Telegram, GBwhatsapp and twitter are very frequent. Once and a while a random app crashes, but happens twice a day at most. IK GB is a modded app but it and none of the other apps displayed this behaviour on my previous phones.
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Ditch them; no social media or sales apps should ever be installed. Multi vector security risks and resource hogs. If you must use them login through a secure browser like Brave only. They simply aren't worth all the trouble they will cause.
Instead of Telegram try the Samsung messaging app. The Samsung app runs well for me, no issues. Not the solution you probably wanted but time to take out the trash... it's stinking up the place.

blackhawk said:
Ditch them; no social media or sales apps should ever be installed. Multi vector security risks and resource hogs. If you must use them login through a secure browser like Brave only. They simply aren't worth all the trouble they will cause.
Instead of Telegram try the Samsung messaging app. The Samsung app runs well for me, no issues. Not the solution you probably wanted but time to take out the trash... it's stinking up the place.
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While i do understand and agree on the resource and security aspect, and shoulda' coulda' woulda' stopped using them, as i have done in the past and still do to this day with some of them, for a few reasons i need to be using some socials nowadays, and have done so for a few years without much hassle until this phone came in. If i could have ditched them, I wouldn't have come to a forum to figure out a way to fix the issue.
But I'll check how functional the web version of some of my socials work on mobile, for it's been a while i haven't used them and they used to lack functions.

guile50 said:
While i do understand and agree on the resource and security aspect, and shoulda' coulda' woulda' stopped using them, as i have done in the past and still do to this day with some of them, for a few reasons i need to be using some socials nowadays, and have done so for a few years without much hassle until this phone came in. If i could have ditched them, I wouldn't have come to a forum to figure out a way to fix the issue.
But I'll check how functional the web version of some of my socials work on mobile, for it's been a while i haven't used them and they used to lack functions.
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They tend to be a mess. They probably aren't up to date with the latest Android version or Samsung has some glitches with their new firmware. One reason I don't upgrade firmware or update apps is because the phone is running well. In your case perhaps it's going the be a game of upgrade/update roulette.
Is power management active? Any disabled apps or services? Setting changes to system apps? Is a firewall installed? In Accessibility are there any services installed for those apps? For Android 11 and higher there maybe more settings... Samsung's notorious for burying them.

blackhawk said:
They tend to be a mess. They probably aren't up to date with the latest Android version or Samsung has some glitches with their new firmware. One reason I don't upgrade firmware or update apps is because the phone is running well. In your case perhaps it's going the be a game of upgrade/update roulette.
Is power management active? Any disabled apps or services? Setting changes to system apps? Is a firewall installed? In Accessibility are there any services installed for those apps? For Android 11 and higher there maybe more settings... Samsung's notorious for burying them.
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Gave a shot at updating the firmware; it boosted the performance a little bit, the battery is lasting way longer and the apps are closing less.
I ran a bugreport of a full day of use through battery historian and i found something strange, all app crashes are attributed to com.google.android.providers.media.module (which a quick google told me it's the MediaProvider Module from AOSP). Is there something i can do about it?
idk about power management but i have adaptive battery on, and i put discord to sleep; disabled google, meets and chrome; no settings changed; no firewall installed; all accessivility settings are off and no apps are using those permissions. I ****ed around a lil bit and toggled some of the samsung stuff off, but there might still be something buried, yes.
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Adaptive battery is global power management. To verify it's on: Developer options>standby apps, the app bucket states will be varied if it on ie active, frequently, rarely etc.
When off they will always show as active and you can not change the bucket state (it seems to take but after a refresh it hasn't).
This lame feature never worked and uses much more battery than if the the device is hand optimized. It can cause erratic behaviors.
If you deal with the power hog correctly the results are apparent within hours not days or weeks. Lol, Gookill tends to get more stupid over time, not smarter That said hand optimizing takes time but the results are much better and yield a substantial increase in SOT, standby time as well as a snappier, cooler running device.
Optimizing is somewhat trial and error at first and a bit tricky. It eventually becomes almost second nature. This N10+ was a stuttering hot running power hog before it was optimized, now it runs like a bat out of hell. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see what that does. Gmail, Playstore and Google backup Transport are dependencies, simply turn on if needed. Kill the notifications for too so it doesn't nag you constantly. See if that helps your issues.
Use Device Care>memory>optimize. Install SD Maid Pro to do more clean up, it's a very useful app. A logging firewall can be very useful for tracking down issues, lets you see what's being busy in the background using data and resources.
com.google.android.providers.media.module, interesting. Apparently it's caused trouble going back to 2011 from time to time. It's a needed service. Go through all the Google account settings. It's good to explore all setting options anyway. Maybe try clearing the Media Storage app cache and check the settings.
I'm more clueless than you why this happening.
Maybe someone here knows why it's puking on you. Otherwise play with it, eventually you'll track the cause down but it may take a while.
If you're in the US you could go to a Samsung Experience center at best buy; they allegedly can run advanced diagnostic tests on it.

blackhawk said:
Adaptive battery is global power management. To verify it's on: Developer options>standby apps, the app bucket states will be varied if it on ie active, frequently, rarely etc.
When off they will always show as active and you can not change the bucket state (it seems to take but after a refresh it hasn't).
This lame feature never worked and uses much more battery than if the the device is hand optimized. It can cause erratic behaviors.
If you deal with the power hog correctly the results are apparent within hours not days or weeks. Lol, Gookill tends to get more stupid over time, not smarter That said hand optimizing takes time but the results are much better and yield a substantial increase in SOT, standby time as well as a snappier, cooler running device.
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All my apps are active and i cannot flick the switch so i guess it's off. i turned adaptive battery off on battery and device care > battery > more battery settings.
blackhawk said:
Optimizing is somewhat trial and error at first and a bit tricky. It eventually becomes almost second nature. This N10+ was a stuttering hot running power hog before it was optimized, now it runs like a bat out of hell. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see what that does. Gmail, Playstore and Google backup Transport are dependencies, simply turn on if needed. Kill the notifications for too so it doesn't nag you constantly. See if that helps your issues.
Use Device Care>memory>optimize. Install SD Maid Pro to do more clean up, it's a very useful app. A logging firewall can be very useful for tracking down issues, lets you see what's being busy in the background using data and resources.
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While i'm aware of some optimization techniques, it's been so long since I actually felt the need to tweak something it's actually surreal. My two previous phones were a Mi A2 and a N20U (for almost three years), and I didn't mess around for basically nothing. they ran absolutely fine, I thought my XDA days were gone
But anyways, I did the following: After updating the firmware, I disabled and cleaned the media provider app cache and cleaned the system cache. The phone got immediately snappier, but some of the crashes were still happening. I ruled the Whatsapp crashes to a faulty backup, since I noticed it happened when I open certain chats. idk how to fix this so I just deleted the chat; the com.google.android.providers.media.module crash count went down from 10 to 4 on my two last battery cycles. Something is still crashing, but possibly in the background. I'll keep monitoring it.
Is there any other thread that shows the ropes of optimizing samsung devices aside from this one?

guile50 said:
All my apps are active and i cannot flick the switch so i guess it's off. i turned adaptive battery off on battery and device care > battery > more battery settings.
While i'm aware of some optimization techniques, it's been so long since I actually felt the need to tweak something it's actually surreal. My two previous phones were a Mi A2 and a N20U (for almost three years), and I didn't mess around for basically nothing. they ran absolutely fine, I thought my XDA days were gone
But anyways, I did the following: After updating the firmware, I disabled and cleaned the media provider app cache and cleaned the system cache. The phone got immediately snappier, but some of the crashes were still happening. I ruled the Whatsapp crashes to a faulty backup, since I noticed it happened when I open certain chats. idk how to fix this so I just deleted the chat; the com.google.android.providers.media.module crash count went down from 10 to 4 on my two last battery cycles. Something is still crashing, but possibly in the background. I'll keep monitoring it.
Is there any other thread that shows the ropes of optimizing samsung devices aside from this one?
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WhatsApp... ditch the trashware. An unstable OS can end up turning into a boot loop very quickly.
Any app that's misbehaving and can't be sorted out gets uninstalled or package disabled.
Find and correct the root cause(s).
All I ever played with are Samsung's and all needed to be optimized. There are numerous posts I've made of it but you see my post count; even I be hard pressed to ferret them all out.
I've thought about starting a thread but I run 9 and 10, plus I have mine configured to my device and needs. So what works well for me may be useless to others. It's a steep learning curve that works best if you learn the what's and why's rather than blindly implementing someone else's list. Eventually you get a feel for it by playing with it. That comes in handy when
Other than Package Disabler I deal with everything through the UI settings, and with 3rd party add ons; no adb edits. The result is a very stable stock Samsung that runs well and a very long lived load. I block upgrades and updates; these can and do break Samsung's so I have learned and waste my time trying to fix the mess they make.

blackhawk said:
WhatsApp... ditch the trashware. An unstable OS can end up turning into a boot loop very quickly.
Any app that's misbehaving and can't be sorted out gets uninstalled or package disabled.
Find and correct the root cause(s).
All I ever played with are Samsung's and all needed to be optimized. There are numerous posts I've made of it but you see my post count; even I be hard pressed to ferret them all out.
I've thought about starting a thread but I run 9 and 10, plus I have mine configured to my device and needs. So what works well for me may be useless to others. It's a steep learning curve that works best if you learn the what's and why's rather than blindly implementing someone else's list. Eventually you get a feel for it by playing with it. That comes in handy when
Other than Package Disabler I deal with everything through the UI settings, and with 3rd party add ons; no adb edits. The result is a very stable stock Samsung that runs well and a very long lived load. I block upgrades and updates; these can and do break Samsung's so I have learned and waste my time trying to fix the mess they make.
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Jesus, do you have any apps on your phone? Shouldn't you just get a nokia 3310 at this point?
You bash every feature of a smartphone that makes it smart.
No apps, no software update, no features, no fun. Try living in the woods completely off the grid. Seems more up your alley.

Me Gusta said:
You bash every feature of a smartphone that makes it smart.
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If you pay more attention, this statement will read as follows:
"You bash every 'feature' of a smartphone that makes it a better spyware."

@Rod F
OneUI has a bug. I used to see app crashing pop-ups quite frequently during the initial period on my S22U. The same build and version of apps ran absolutely fine on my other devices, which too were running on the same Android version as my S22U.
Over time, due to optimisations and updates from Samsung, the number of such pop-ups have reduced to almost none now.

TheMystic said:
If you pay more attention, this statement will read as follows:
"You bash every 'feature' of a smartphone that makes it a better spyware."
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Like I said. You should get a Nokia 3310.

Me Gusta said:
Like I said. You should get a Nokia 3310.
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GDPR happened because someone raised the issue and created awareness. Although it is only a first step, but that too wouldn't have happened if he had just decided to get the Nokia 3310.

Me Gusta said:
Jesus, do you have any apps on your phone? Shouldn't you just get a nokia 3310 at this point?
You bash every feature of a smartphone that makes it smart.
No apps, no software update, no features, no fun. Try living in the woods completely off the grid. Seems more up your alley.
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You failed to counterpoint my specific suggestions with your off topic retorts. You got possible solutions for the OP or just hot air for me?