Nexus 4 outperformed by GS3 - Nexus 4 General

I just watched this interesting video.
youtube.com/watch?v=YRpzR6gONXE&list=UUB4dWKbwgl3U3ohBmrT7k3w&index=5
It shows the galaxy s3 running smoother frame rates on grand theft auto, which is odd as on paper the Nexus 4 should be faster.
What are your thoughts guys?

Its gotta be 4.2 android. Gs3 does not run 4.2 and both the n4 and n10 have very low heat thresholds. Google needs to fix these issues.
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It's called not being optimized for android 4.2 add well as the processor and gpu
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S3 = $549
N4 = $349
Is it $200 better? Probably not.

Nexus 4>other phones.
S3? DNA? RAZR MAXX? Note 2?
None of them. In terms of value per dollar, hardware and software performance. Not to mention when you consider that for the most part a smartphone is only as good as the software it's running. With all things considered there won't be a "better" phone till the next Nexus is released.
The Galaxy Nexus is still much "better" than most phones around because of the reason stated above. Sure it's hardware is a bit "dated" but it's software is still worlds above many current top phones "old" version of Android, with their ugly overlays.

Probably doesn't support the Adreno 320 yet that's all.

They should test it with an Optimus G, see if it's software related or thermal throttling.

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[DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone
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Nexus 4 Vs Galaxy S3 (gaming)

Hi everyone.
My dad has bought a Galaxy S3 (UK) but offered to swap with me for my Nexus 4.
Which is the superior phone in terms of gaming and why?
Nexus 4 is a superior phone for gaming. Newer GPU
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review/2
Benchmarks ^^
Both are on par if you're talking the international GSIII.
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Mali 400mp first appeared on Galaxy S2 so we are talking about a 1,5 year old GPU chip.
I would stay with the N4
Mindfield21 said:
Mali 400mp first appeared on Galaxy S2 so we are talking about a 1,5 year old GPU chip.
I would stay with the N4
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Not to mention the difference between RAM, CPU, Screen Size on the two phones. N4 is definitely superior.
Hardware wise they're both really close to each other, but s iii have more internal space for you to store your games , especially useful for those HD games that takes over 1gb . siii also have a slightly larger screen so its easier on the eyes. N4 have the advantage of being pure android out of the box no overlay so performance should be a little better, however at this point there is no games I know of that both these device can't handle so you won't notice the difference. The only advantages I see from the nexus is that its more future proof, because the s 3 been out for awhile now. S 4 should be expected to announced in early 2013.
I came from the international gs3 and honestly for gaming I would say they are almost identical except I did notice once on the nexus 4 i was playing granny smith and gameplay stuttered for a second but it only happened once, the gs3 was always smooth.
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Please don't start threads where one already exists and covers the topic. Use the Nexus 4 versus any other phone thread please as it stops cluttering the forum with repeated threads. Thread closed.
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How future proof is the Nexus 7

Looking for a fully featured 7 tablet, that I will be using for web browsing, gaming (intense ones ) and studying.
Planning on using this device for a couple of years before replacing I am assuming 3 to 4 years?
Our family currently has the Tab 2 7.0 and I reckon it's a bit sluggish, is the Nexus 7 exceptionally smooth?
Should I get it?
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
In terms of processing-power it's right up there with the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy SIII, so you're not looking at problems playing games in the near future.
Also, you got an active development community for the device, so even if Google decides to not support the tablet with new versions of Android, you can still keep up to date with what the devs are pumping out.
I've been using mine almost all the time when i'm not sitting in front of my rig, and it has never let me down.
I might say it is likely to be future proof for at least 2 years. It has the hardware, and Google is known to support their nexus line for quite a while. My guess is that it will be in the front line of the upcoming key lime pie update tier.
It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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I know that the new chips introduced at CES 2013 are a few times more powerfull than the Tegra 3. What I ment was that future apps and games will work OK for 2 years. The average life span of a phone and table is 2 years, if it's a flagship device at the time you make the purchase. And the thing is if you fear buying a new device just because it's not future proof, you'll end up never buying anything. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money for what you're getting with this tablet.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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The N7 is faster than a Tab, its processors clock at 1.3 GHz and in terms of build quality i'd say they are on equal levels.
I know there are a few stories out there about screen lift on early batches of the N7, but since I can only speak from personal experience, I can say that the build quality of mine is exceptional.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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You probably shouldn't try to provide an answer when you don't know what you're talking about. The nexus 7 is a 1.2ghz quad core processor, tab 2 is 1ghz dual core, not the same. As for apps Samsung forces on users, there's always plenty of alternatives on the play store.
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CrazyPeter said:
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
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I hope so. I just bought one off of Ebay and I'm waiting on delivery. I'm a little skeptical of the performance of the N7. I have a SG3 that has higher Quadrant scores, so I hope it has enough processing power to go beyond KLP.
If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
2 years for a 250$ device seems like more than enough to say that it paid for itself. Most probably the games development will skyrocket, better specs will be required, better screens, more storage space. So, as I said, for me 2 years is a good estimate.
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If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
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Greed, that's is what i bought one.
I bought my wife a TF300 several months ago, it is on par with the N7's performance but the N7 cost almost half the price.
IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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Um. What? It's a quad core 1.3ghz. The companion core is is 500Mhz.
let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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maybe not..
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3016117/asus-maakt-tweede-nexus-7-tablet.html
or in english: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130128PD222.html
it depends on when google wil release the next nexus 7.
OptimusLove said:
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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Wrong on so many levels. Is this why you wanted to hang out in here even though you don't have a N7?
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cnstarz said:
let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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i never mention the Galaxy Tab 2 in my post.
It's a Nexus device, so it will be supported going forward for quite a while, and since it is easy to unlock, the developer community will support it for quite a while.
It probably won't be the best gaming device in 2 years, since that pushes hardware well beyond most other tasks, but if it starts to get a bit slower, you can always push the clocks. It seems most of the N7s will push the cores to 1.4 or 1.5 without any issues, and 1.6 is doable for burst before hitting thermal limits, with some chips able to run even faster. The GPU pushes quite well too.
I'd fully suggest one as a reasonably future-proof device. Plus, they'll likely still resell for $50-$100 in 2 years, which means you're paying $50-$75/yr for a Nexus device. That's pretty good.

[Q] Nexus 4 vs galaxy s3

Is nexus 4 close to or better than the galaxy s3. if so what is the reason i know it has wirless charging but other than that what else can it do better?
Galaxy s3 also has wireless charging. Both are good phones. The nexus 4 has a better processor, father updates, etc. The gs3 on the other hand has 4glte, an arguably better camera, and if you're a contract guy you have to get it.
Can't go wrong with either.
Also there is already forums for this I'm pretty sure...
My Nexus 10 is better than your tablet. Hah.
Hi,
I had the S III for about 6 months and I have the Nexus since 1 week (before I had a Samsung Galaxy Nexus).
In short Nexus... it's Google: updates, no bloat (no crappy overlay like Touchwiz) pure Android, it's a Qualcomm / Adreno hardware (but Samusng RAM LOL), like the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (TI-> Texas Instrument), more source etc, take a look in the GS III forum about Exynos source's... you'll be disapointed.
It mainly depends of your needs, pure Android experience, with a lot of new ROM with diferent features, kernel, sources ("stock Android", AOSP, CM, a mix, etc...) go the Nexus Line...:good:
If you want multiwindow, pop-up play, smart-stay buit-in and a Samsung device with, in fact good hardware, go for Samsung. But you'll stay ... "sur ta faim" (sorry )...
If you want all the "after market" features, I mean devs , go the Nexus! I owned a Galaxy Nexus then a S III... Back to the Nexus :silly::fingers-crossed::laugh::laugh:
And yes there are thread here and in the S III forum about comparison... After that bigger screen for the S III (not that much) but in hight light like sun it's not terrible, diferent design, 4g / LTE (it depends of your country), extanted storage, etc... and wirless charging for both like b4silver said.
Hard choice... give the Nexus 4 a try not the S III for now...
There's already a thread for this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559
I just traded my galaxy s3 for a Nexus 4. The camera on the s3 ALOT better. The nexus 4 camera isn't bad though. On custom Roms the s3 battery sucked. Nexus 4 wins in this department. I hatred touch wiz on the s3. This was the main reason I switched to the nexus 4. I can also see a big difference in the snappiness of android on 4 cores on the nexus compared to the two on the s3.
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The fact that the Nexus does not have a card slot or any easily replaceable battery is enough for me to say no. Also the only LG phone I've ever had was a huge POS. Although I do have a nice LG TV that has been pretty good to me.
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The fact that the Nexus does not have a card slot or any easily replaceable battery is enough for me to say no. Also the only LG phone I've ever had was a huge POS. Although I do have a nice LG TV that has been pretty good to me.
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I guess you've never had a Nexus 4, your input was quite valuable I'm sure.
I'd have to recommend the Nexus 4 for the price, buying the S3 now is like buying an iPhone in the summer, if you don't go with the Nexus, wait for the S4.
Galaxy s3 : 8 megapixes
nexus 4 : 8 megapixes
Camera department it can go either way and truth betold s3 might look better but the min u put in pc and take both pic without saturation both look the same
galaxy s3 1080 p hd
nexus 4 1080 p hd
It the same
Graphic card
Galaxy s3 : adreno 225
Nexus 4: adreno 320
Nexus 4 is better graphic
Processor
Galaxy s3: Dual-core 1.5 GHz (usa)/
nexus 4 :Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.epicgames.EpicCitadel heres a good benchmark runs smoooth @max :good:
Nexus more fluid. S3 is good though but feels cheap. S3 Got better camera btw
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I guess you've never had a Nexus 4, your input was quite valuable I'm sure.
I'd have to recommend the Nexus 4 for the price, buying the S3 now is like buying an iPhone in the summer, if you don't go with the Nexus, wait for the S4.
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A phone with fixed memory, battery and no LTE support is way too much like an iPhone to me.
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I love my nexus 4. I had the s3 and I like the build quality of the s3 better. The nexus 4 looks good but the back cover is horrible. Its the noisiest cover of any phone I've ever used, well I had the lg optimus g and it was the same way. Its so load I actually woke my wife from her slumber while handling the phone. I've managed to take some of the creakiness out by ree removing the back cover and putting tape in the spots that are mushy. Other than the back cover being terrible, I like the nexus 4 better. Hopefully when my bumper comes I won't notice the creaking anymore.
Some of you will think I'm abusing my phone but I'm not. Before I put the tape on the inside edges, just grabbing the phone to pull it out of my pocket I could hear it creaking, it was driving me crazy.
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Galaxy S3 pros:
SDCard
Replacable battery
better camera
S2 cons:
Bloatware
cheap feel
expensive
slow(ish) update cycles (not as bad as some thou)
Nexus4 Pros:
Stock Android, more consistent.
VERY affordable, great price performance
Photosphere
prompt updates
Great build quality
Great looks
Smaller than S3 but decent size display still
Better display.
Nexus4 Cons:
Glass back makes it feel slippery
Fragile, so don't drop
No SD Card
add119 said:
Galaxy s3 : 8 megapixes
nexus 4 : 8 megapixes
Camera department it can go either way and truth betold s3 might look better but the min u put in pc and take both pic without saturation both look the same
galaxy s3 1080 p hd
nexus 4 1080 p hd
It the same
Graphic card
Galaxy s3 : adreno 225
Nexus 4: adreno 320
Nexus 4 is better graphic
Processor
Galaxy s3: Dual-core 1.5 GHz (usa)/
nexus 4 :Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
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You should never compare camera's picture quality based off the resolution specs... I mean we had 8mp cameras on many phones and even digital cameras before but they're all different... You can't just say they both have 1080p so it's equal. It's like saying a coby tv is as nice as my Samsung tv.
Anyways, I have both phones, simply, nexus is the faster smoother phone. Whereas the s3 is fast also but.. there is always that stutter here and there.
I too was kept away from the nexus because no sd slot but, after using the nexus for a week it's definitely the better phone. Btw a custom Rom on the nexus 4 is equivalent or better than the s3. Many early comparisons around the forums or on those review sites may differ... but that's probably based off stock. Custom rom on the nexus 4 blows any other phones away. Yes our camera loses to the s3, ip5, one x/+, I wouldn't even be surprised if we lose to the razr hd maxx. But it's still a good camera...think in between s2 and s3
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Sgs3 con.
Forget about enjoying the screen in open summer daylight. Grrrr.
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Just to put my two pence into this; in my experience, I've found that the Nexus 4 is more responsive to the touch/smoother. That being said, I can't deny the speed of the International GS3. Despite the Nexus having superior hardware, I consistently find that the S3 loads most things quicker. Especially when it comes to browsing, both running the same browser, S3 wins EVERY TIME, without fail - when I test, anyway. It doesnt make sense to me either, the Nexus 4 should theoretically far outmatch the S3 in speed, but it doesn't.
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N4 or Galaxy Nexus?

Thinking of upgrading, a friend offered to buy my Galaxy Nexus and so I was thinking of selling it(for U.S.$150) and buying an N4. Is there $150 worth of difference in the two? I have never seen an N4 in the wild, so I have no frame of reference. The added bonus is my friend would be switching from an iPhone 4 so we'd be gaining a convert LOL. As far as ROMS and Unlocking/Rooting how is the N4? It's SUPER easy with the GNex of course, same with the N4?
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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Eh I say neither. The leaked lg device is likely the opt g2, which will obviously lead to a rebranded nexus 5. I like the g2's design, so I say wait for Google I/o for any leaks.
If you must have one then get the n4.
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I've owned both. Even when on a bad kernel/rom combo and having problems, the n4 battery life is still significantly better for me. Color tuning can get the screen pretty dang close to the amoled saturation.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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3hrs screen on time is average for the N4.. Hardly 10 seconds and hardly anything to complain about either considering the hardware in the thing.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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Mine lasts 15 seconds, booooy!
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Galaxy Nexus used is worth more than $150.
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Galaxy Nexus used is worth more than $150.
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I have to agree with the above statement. I still see GNexi selling for $200-$250. If you're cutting your friend a deal that's one thing. If not, don't short change yourself.
I've owned both, and my opinion is the GNex feels better in hand. The N4 will have a longer upgrade time as the GNex hardware slowly becomes obsolete.
I would say pick up the N4. If nothing else for having a new shiny toy to play with.
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I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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I don't know how long the GNex's battery lasted but on PA with the calibrated kernel that comes with it (if I'm not mistaken that is essentially just the stock kernel) I had 24 hours with 2 hours screen on time (lowest brightness) and still 20% left. If that's not good enough for you then you'll need to buy a phone with a huge stock battery or the ability to swap out an extended battery.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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That's wrong, I've owned both too and the battery is a tad better on the N4. With custom rom and kernel I was averaging 3.5 hours of SOT with the GNex, but I get around 4 hours on the N4 all stock and no root.
10 seconds?? Am I reading it right?
Its around 5 hours screen on time with franco kernel
In terms of pure performance, the N4 is really good. It has the same GPU as the Galaxy S4, HTC one, Sony xperia Z etc etc etc. This means that most games will be optimized for these phones, and the N4 should age well. IF you are into games this could be worth considering. If not, I've seen the galaxy nexus with jellybean and it was very smooth indeed - so it's not like performance lacks with that phone.
The screen will look very "dimm"/undersaturated compared to your galaxy nexus. I personally used some "saturated" pre-set and calibrated the screen to 2.2 gamma on RGB - and I subjectivly think the screen looks amazing now (day and night difference between stock settings and calibrated). Requires root i believe!
Battery life is just fine for me (~4h screen-on-time) with franco.kernel. I don't have any complaints, but i know many others do. So you should compare what you get with the galaxy nexus and see what people with the N4 get.
Danny.ns said:
In terms of pure performance, the N4 is really good. It has the same GPU as the Galaxy S4, HTC one, Sony xperia Z etc etc etc. This means that most games will be optimized for these phones, and the N4 should age well. IF you are into games this could be worth considering. If not, I've seen the galaxy nexus with jellybean and it was very smooth indeed - so it's not like performance lacks with that phone.
The screen will look very "dimm"/undersaturated compared to your galaxy nexus. I personally used some "saturated" pre-set and calibrated the screen to 2.2 gamma on RGB - and I subjectivly think the screen looks amazing now (day and night difference between stock settings and calibrated). Requires root i believe!
Battery life is just fine for me (~4h screen-on-time) with franco.kernel. I don't have any complaints, but i know many others do. So you should compare what you get with the galaxy nexus and see what people with the N4 get.
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The S4 and HTC One have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 cpu. The N4 and Xperia Z have a Qualcomm S4 Pro cpu
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The S4 and HTC One have a Qualcomm 600 cpu. The N4 and Xperia Z have a Qualcomm S4 Pro cpu
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Yes, I wrote GPU mate. That is, the graphics card of the SoC. They all have the same Adreno320.
Also, I might add, the difference in architecture between the S4 Pro and 600 is minimal. What runs fast on the 600 will run fast on the S4 Pro as well.
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Yes, I wrote GPU mate. That is, the graphics card of the SoC. They all have the same Adreno320.
Also, I might add, the difference in architecture between the S4 Pro and 600 is minimal. What runs fast on the 600 will run fast on the S4 Pro as well.
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You`re right, misread that. Haven`t been up for so long .
I have them both and if you enjoy playing games don't even think about it. Now I can use the phone as a game console and it is just amazing. Believe me or not, I even prefer it's IPS screen. When I look back at my gnex I can see pixels due to its pentile distribution and I just don't like anymore it's over saturated display. It's a matter of getting use to it I imagine... When you first have it in your hands you really miss it but after some days you love it.
You've got a TOP phone for many years with this. And gpu is even compatible with the upcoming OPENGL 3.0
Let's see what Google IO brings in a couple of days.
Regarding the battery, it's non removable battery is a drawback. Got around 3:30 hours SOT with stock or performance kernels as trinity. But franco kernel is just awesome. Easily getting nearly 5 hours of screen time out of it and performance boosts just when needed in a very smart way.
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 - 8.0, anyone?

Will anyone consider the upcoming tab 3-8 to replace your nexus 7? I may as the followings are improvements that I am looking for:
1) larger screen with thinner bezels,
2) miracast/allshare cast support
3) phone call support (don't need this everyday, but great to use as second mobile when on a trip)
4) LTE support
5) microsd (which the new nexus certainly will not have)
But all these will render useless unless the new intel cpu is better than the current tegra 3. Anyone knows anything about this cpu?
Any views and followers?
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But all these will render useless unless the new intel cpu is better than the current tegra 3. Anyone knows anything about this cpu?
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I don't think the 8.0 with have the new intel cpu on board, only the 10 inch version will have.
It a shame the tab 3 8.0 won't have IR and NFC on board :crying:
It's too slow.
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spitfire2425 said:
It's too slow.
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Nexus 7 still doing utterly splendid, thank you.
I'm currently happy with my collection of electronics. Baring any unforseen accidents I don't plan on "upgrading" my tab, phone, laptop or any other electronic for minimum of another year. But when I do my android devices will remain nexus whenever possible.
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I would like to see a Nexus 8. I would like the larger screen, but I don't much care for Samsung's newest tablets with the physical buttons. They are awkward when the tablet is rotated.
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gompedyret said:
Nexus 7 still doing utterly splendid, thank you.
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I meant the gtab8 is too slow. The my nexus seven and all the rest are still awesome.
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Pretty pricey for minor differences. If you were tabletless and looking, even then, the extra $130+ difference over the N7 is hard to swallow for basically Pen support.
If you are a current tablet owner, the difference becomes more difficult and borders retarded. Unless you specifically are in the market for a 7-8" tab with Pen support, this is a hard sell at that price. If you don't intend on utilizing the pen, you are much better at saving the cash and buying a N7.
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Pretty pricey for minor differences. If you were tabletless and looking, even then, the extra $130+ difference over the N7 is hard to swallow for basically Pen support.
If you are a current tablet owner, the difference becomes more difficult and borders retarded. Unless you specifically are in the market for a 7-8" tab with Pen support, this is a hard sell at that price. If you don't intend on utilizing the pen, you are much better at saving the cash and buying a N7.
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The OP was referring to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8 inch tablet.....Not the Galaxy Note 8 with the pen. The Galaxy Tab version will be much cheaper. It only has a duel core CPU and 1.5GB RAM.
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All these N7 compared to threads popping up, and to each their own I believe........but.....the N7 isn't perfect perhaps, tho what is.....but for price, performance, support from devs and quick Google updates....the N7 is the best all around 7" and similar size tablet going....and that is very hard to argue.
Nothing wrong with asking about other half size tabs, but realistically .....so far anyway.....none can beat it. Especially that other one people went on about that's a no name tab basically and will doubtfully ever see an official update. And good luck with support if you have problems.
Just saying. Of course the rumored new N7 will probably be better. Acer really got the N7 built ahead of its time. K.....an sd slot would've been nice. Lol
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ncguy68 said:
The OP was referring to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8 inch tablet.....Not the Galaxy Note 8 with the pen. The Galaxy Tab version will be much cheaper. It only has a duel core CPU and 1.5GB RAM.
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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Good to know. I only use two cores on my Nexus 7 and it works fine for me. Android really only needs two cores.
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Nexus 7 32gb = 200 euro
Galaxy note 8.0 = 380 euro
So 180 euro voor 1inch extra. No thank you
Edit : didn't know that there would be a 8inch tab 3
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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I think I was reading that the Atom is an x86 processor that "emulates" ARM used for Android. Samsung is getting cheap and using a platform they can market having Android and another for Windows 8. The good thing is that if the devs get it, it could possibly dualboot Android and Windows.
The Atoms were never really powerful but these are the new generation chips. Only time will tell.
As stated earlier this thread is for the TAB, not the 8" Note... which only further pushes me to believe that the N7 is still the better buy, even today.
I actually tried the Asus Fonepad and it also uses the Intel chip but single core. It feels a little slower than n7 but not by much. It runs pretty much all apps including all the games. But it didn't run firefox for some reason. The intel chip is dual thread; so single core acts like dual core...? And the new chip is dual core.... Therefore, I don't think it would be slower than our beloved N7. In fact it should be faster..
And I really want miracast support.
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A review has been posted.
Please check:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
Not great but definitely decent. Hard to decide N7-2 or this....
N7 Advantages based on rumored specs:
- better screen resolution
- better processor Snapdragon 600 or S4 pro
- lots of custom rom optimize the device
Tab 3 - 8.0
- bigger screen (to me this is more important than resolution as I don't mind the current N7 screen resolution) with thin bezel
- Phone calling capability
- micro-sd card memory expansion
- Possible split screen multi-tasking (this is also important, as I need to view Pdf and type notes in my meetings)
What is your take?
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I think I was reading that the Atom is an x86 processor that "emulates" ARM used for Android. Samsung is getting cheap and using a platform they can market having Android and another for Windows 8. The good thing is that if the devs get it, it could possibly dualboot Android and Windows.
The Atoms were never really powerful but these are the new generation chips. Only time will tell.
As stated earlier this thread is for the TAB, not the 8" Note... which only further pushes me to believe that the N7 is still the better buy, even today.
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I sincerely doubt it. Google's been building x86-optimized versions of Android for some time, so I can't see why Samsung would shoot themselves in the foot by using an x86 chip to emulate ARM. Especially when we know they're collaborating pretty closely Intel.
In any event, this discussion is moot because by all accounts, the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 will not be Intel-powered at all.
Also have to look at support from Samsung. How will this be updated are we looking at timely updates or will it be forgotten like the tab2 was. Will it get the new key lime pie is when its released or will it be stuck with jellybean? We seen so many phones that could handle the newer os that came out over the years but the phone makers seem to not want to be bothered with it. Or they drag their feet and by the time the phone gets the updated os its already obsolete. Case in point by the time the HTC thunderbolt got ICS Google was already on 4.2 jellybean.
Why all my devices for now on will be Google nexus devices. Seems to get more quicker updates and they support their devices a lot longer than other makers with their mentality of use it once and throw away for something new.I am happy with my n7 and will use it for either as long as I have it or till it breaks or I give it to my son. I got my son a tab2 and I was disappointed in it. I always heard great things about Samsung devices but that price of crap makes me question Samsung devices for the future purchases I may make.
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DroidOnRoids said:
I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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yeah probably but the thought of having a dual core compared to the upcoming quad-core tablets that are probably going to have tegra 4, snapdragon 600 800s just makes it seem slow and probably will be.
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yatbond said:
A review has been posted.
Please check:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
Not great but definitely decent. Hard to decide N7-2 or this....
N7 Advantages based on rumored specs:
- better screen resolution
- better processor Snapdragon 600 or S4 pro
- lots of custom rom optimize the device
Tab 3 - 8.0
- bigger screen (to me this is more important than resolution as I don't mind the current N7 screen resolution) with thin bezel
- Phone calling capability
- micro-sd card memory expansion
- Possible split screen multi-tasking (this is also important, as I need to view Pdf and type notes in my meetings)
What is your take?
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GET THE N7 2 it will be a beast and have probably tons of devs behind it and who needs phone calling capabilitys.

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