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Is it just me or somebody else there who preferes CM7 over ICS and feels CM7 is better, for the time being, than ICS, performancewise and customizationwise.
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CM7 is certainly more customizable for now, but if you're talking about performance and stability, both CM7 and CM9 are still not as good as some of the stock Froyo 2.2.1 roms, mainly due to free ram. With more free ram, the processor doesn't need to constantly close and reopen processes. Nonetheless, I prefer ICS over froyo and CM7 simply because of the many subtle yet important improvements, such as the keyboard and spellcheck, smoother game performance(eg: runs GTA3 with no lags), and the improved user interface.
ICS' only weakness in my point of view is the lousy multitasking, due to low ram on our galaxy s. I can't even open the browser and a simple game like angry birds at the same time without one of them being closed. Multitasking was slightly better on gingerbread and much better on Froyo.
CM7 in my opinion, is not faster than CM9, though it is currently more stable and has fewer bugs. But the huge community support that ICS has currently makes it better for me.
To check the multitasking I opened some apps and without killing them I checked the running processes. They are not shown there but in the cached running processes they are shown. Why?.
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mashray said:
To check the multitasking I opened some apps and without killing them I checked the running processes. They are not shown there but in the cached running processes they are shown. Why?.
Edit: cached backround processes
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Cm9 is still in development phase... Cm7 is stable and being developed since long time. Once cm9 is fully developed we can compare them...
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Cm9 is still in development phase... Cm7 is stable and being developed since long time. Once cm9 is fully developed we can compare them...
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Yes, thats why wrote "for the time being" and definitely I'm not comparing them. I'm just asking the users opinion to choose.
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CM7 was nice, but right now I'm just lovin ICS.It looks and feels way better.
CM9 all the way. I'm just surprised how good it is for alpha. Better than 2.3 roms, imo.
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CM7 was nice, but right now I'm just lovin ICS.It looks and feels way better.
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yep!!
yes
yes cm7 is much faster and stable than ics
Please remember that cm9 is still an ALPHA build.Sure it is not yet as custom able as cm7...but it will be. But back to the question tho , cm9 defo for me.
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And isn't the battery drain slower in CM7 than in ICS roms.
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And isn't the battery drain slower in CM7 than in ICS roms.
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Yes, it is... Battery backup of cm7 is better than cm9 that's why I'm back to cm7.
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I have never tested cm7. I think if you want to use a custom ROM, you should take ICS.
There isn't only cm9, you can also use something like AOKP (or BLUE LIGHTENING, a AOKP based ROM from BHuvan goyal), it is nearly bug free and very customizable!
If you like the stock ROMs, stay there!
Ok, you are not going to like this, but I just have to share my experiance with the 4.0.X series.
None, is good enough for daily use, yet.
Example: In my car, BT on, GPS on and incoming call hangs. Total lock up, random reboot. Messages: Contact process do not answere, would you like to terminate process. FB, same. Go Launcher, same.. other apps, same. Had ardx or CK kernal. No hyper settings, nothing more than on a regular GB rom.
I am starting to have dissbelieves on 4.X.X on this device. Reason? CPU and RAM in combination of looked up drivers our excellent developers can't get their hands on and mix/crossovers from other devices ports
Question: Is there anyone loobying / connected to Qualcomm/Huawei?
What can I do?
Please, this IS NOT any critique to anyone involved with any rom, port, dev, member or post. Just a question on where we are heading.
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Same my thoughts and that is the reason I'm still on GB (Bumblebee), I was getting lot of Launcher Redraws also on 4.0.4 and all the other problems which you mentioned and the culprit is our RAM which is not even 512mb (only 351 or 356MB), if you switch off running background processes then what's the use of a smartphone without multi tasking.
Hi chrillefr...Have you tried IceCold 8.0...Before this ROM I had the same feeling what you have now...but since this ROM has come I have tried other ROM's experimenting but I revert back to this ROM.
Your feedback on this?...Our developers are working hard to get the perfect ROM for this phone.
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And forgot to mention...If you have any issues with the launchers...try 360 with IceCold 8.0 it is good.
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Same my thoughts and that is the reason I'm still on GB (Bumblebee), I was getting lot of Launcher Redraws also on 4.0.4 and all the other problems which you mentioned and the culprit is our RAM which is not even 512mb (only 351 or 356MB), if you switch off running background processes then what's the use of a smartphone without multi tasking.
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.. yes, a bit of that in my mind. I know dev's are working their ass of to get all of this together and I'm blessed to take part of it too. Also, I'm thinking about "less" important features such as FM and full cam support, compiling kernals etc but I feel a bit helpless not being able to contribute more than on a philosophical level...
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Hi chrillefr...Have you tried IceCold 8.0...Before this ROM I had the same feeling what you have now...but since this ROM has come I have tried other ROM's experimenting but I revert back to this ROM.
Your feedback on this?...Our developers are working hard to get the perfect ROM for this phone.
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And forgot to mention...If you have any issues with the launchers...try 360 with IceCold 8.0 it is good.
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I'm on Milestone, CK kernel and it works pretty well while not under too much stress. I have 1200 Ghz, smartassV2, 409? in SD read ahead and scrolling cache default. Still as mentioned above, how much will we be able to put into this phone and still have it multitasking? Is the cost of cam, FM and so on the price we have to pay? Also, what can I do? Don't dev, just leach...
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hi
i think it depends on what u want.like if ur req is just the basics like me
im sure the matBLK provided CM9 A99 ending with the no 610 should be good enough i have been using it for a long time and have had no FC or any problems with it .My feeling is that is is very much a daily use ROM
but then i just need the basics thats all:laugh:
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hi
i think it depends on what u want.like if ur req is just the basics like me
im sure the matBLK provided CM9 A99 ending with the no 610 should be good enough i have been using it for a long time and have had no FC or any problems with it .My feeling is that is is very much a daily use ROM
but then i just need the basics thats all:laugh:
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Multitasking, cam, BT and GPS and no wait state is what I need for daily use. Cam corder and front cam if possible.
Now, battery is good, sound and tether too.
Lets say I want to relie on my phone around others, not necessary stand out but not die on me like an old car that I don't know if it takes me from A to B.
Roms are getting larger both on cpu and gpu, just as computers and I guess we are getting closer to the limit with this one. So build light.
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Very true bro.
After extensively testing most of the roms in this forum, especially the ics ones, I've finally gone back to Sharp Rom fix 1, as most of the ics roms are not really designed for our device and though the Devs are doing there best to make it work but let's face is, I don't think our device can take that much any more. I personally multitask a lot and its very annoying and embarrassing when it fcs or reboot while your trying to show something to someone. As for me I think am gonna stick with Sharp for a while till something comes out of all the ics roms. I've asked if ck could make his kernel compatible with sharp cos I fill that will make it great.
Also don't you guys think most of these roms that aren't really meant for our phones that we regularly flash can be detrimental to the health of our phones at the long run? Like Chris will say, just my 2 cents lol.
This is just my personal opinion and am sorry if it makes some peep feel bad.
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Thanks for you very valuable input, very important questions arised too.
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As Wesleyel said I also feel that ICS is not running smooth on our devices, I still feel that CPU and GPU are quite capable of running it but RAM is really giving us a headache, you can see that lot of 1ghz or less phones are running ICS nicely like ZTE Blade, skate, some Huawei phones also.... anyhow presently would like to stay on GB and will like to see what Jelly Beans port come to our devices by the devs
Well, I call this good news bcause I had a Blade before this. So now I can recommend ICS to them too. Any special port you'd suggest? Again, good to see you around!
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Well, I call this good news bcause I had a Blade before this. So now I can recommend ICS to them too. Any special port you'd suggest? Again, good to see you around!
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Can't suggest any special port but blade.Modaco.com is very active, you can go through it,but I think these 3 are good
*ColdFusionX
*KonstaKONG
*AOKP-CM9 Remix RC 6.6.9
Thanks again, Master!
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out of all the ICS ports i found Paranoid Android CM9hybrid to be the smoothest .. only Visual Artifacts arghh... please fix that problem and i will stick to that rom..
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Thanks again, Master!
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Please no Master and all those things, just simply Paarkhi
paarkhi said:
Please no Master and all those things, just simply Paarkhi
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Ok, Paarkhi. Thanks!
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Can Anybody make a Froyo Rom (CM6) or port one, for Example Froyo Pro, with OC Kernel
And with some ported things like new adreno libs?
Is it possible?
Sikorsky96 wants it too
Thanks for the answers
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I'm pretty sure the Galaxy Ace originally shipped with Froyo, so I guess its theoretically possible, but the issue is, why would you? Downgrading the software on your phone doesn't make sense to me when GB, ICS (And hopefully soon JB) all run nicely on the Ace...
Obviously, if its possible but not in much demand, then a developer probably wont go out and do it, however, why don't you go and give it a go?
Oh man froyo is just perfect for gaming. Would love to see froyo running on my phone. And by the my phone already came with Ginger bread which I don't like so haven't had froyo on my ace ever. It would be awesome dud
To be honest froyo seems smoother to me than gingerbread. Always hated gingerbread. And ics wasn't made for ace in the first place. And its too buggy. It drained battery from 100% to 18 in less than an hour wtf.
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I wanted to make one , but I need to make a Froyo device config.....or rather a Froyo kernel .
Besides , the CM6 sources are heavily outdated , because their manifest still points to android.git.kernel.org
"Friends forever." - Ventus
Only battery life is good on froyo.Nothing else.games like angry birds lack,poor memory management,low api level which means less compatible apps.
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Oh man froyo is just perfect for gaming. Would love to see froyo running on my phone. And by the my phone already came with Ginger bread which I don't like so haven't had froyo on my ace ever. It would be awesome dud
To be honest froyo seems smoother to me than gingerbread. Always hated gingerbread. And ics wasn't made for ace in the first place. And its too buggy. It drained battery from 100% to 18 in less than an hour wtf.
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In froyo, 3d games used to lag like hell. And the camera didnt have 480p option too!
In gb, everything is faster according to me.
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Anyways, having cm6 would just add up to our forums flexibility you know having it wouldn't harm. And by the way I used to have a LG optimus gt540 I could run games without any lag on froyo but as soon as I installed Gingerbread I could no longer experience that smoothness so I had to go back to froyo. May be that's just that phone Gingerbread isn't that shi* now that I think about it
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Then can i request someone to make a cool froxo rom? (cm6)
It would be awesome with an OC Kernel and with some cm7 ported tweaks like adreno libs
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Mentafagyi said:
Then can i request someone to make a cool froxo rom? (cm6)
It would be awesome with an OC Kernel and with some cm7 ported tweaks like adreno libs
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Yep, add me to the list of people who would request for this.
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Oh man froyo is just perfect for gaming. Would love to see froyo running on my phone. And by the my phone already came with Ginger bread which I don't like so haven't had froyo on my ace ever. It would be awesome dud
To be honest froyo seems smoother to me than gingerbread. Always hated gingerbread. And ics wasn't made for ace in the first place. And its too buggy. It drained battery from 100% to 18 in less than an hour wtf.
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I guess you never heard of Adrenaline Engine... Neither of any script
GB is much faster and better than Froyo.
And btw, ICS can be made for our device but samsung developers didn't even do anything to make it possible becauase, if they want us to get ICS, we need to buy one of their new phones...
Lol
Say no to Froyo.
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just for fun i downgraded from GB to froyo last month and i need to say it lagggggggggggggged like hell battery was not quite upto the mark to say goodbye to GB either.. with latest firmwares samsung did a fine job to make stock roms run faster.:silly:
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I guess you never heard of Adrenaline Engine... Neither of any script
GB is much faster and better than Froyo.
And btw, ICS can be made for our device but samsung developers didn't even do anything to make it possible becauase, if they want us to get ICS, we need to buy one of their new phones...
Lol
Say no to Froyo.
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lol . It's just business, what do you expect. what would you do if you were them???
Anyways running ICS OR JB on our ace is absolutely possible but its like running win 7 or 8 on a pentium 2 pc with 128mb Graphics and 256mb ram .
and bro, I've had this phone for less than two month. since I bought it I have flashed nearly a billion roms and tweaks and patches and ...., they don't make a lot of difference, when you can't run better shoes won't do anything.
Does any body no a good rom for the galaxy ace GT-S5830 for gaming. The rom I use keep force closing them
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I like apocalypse rom for general performance
That's the rom I'm using at the mo, its a good rom but its forcing game to close unless I have a problem with it what I'm not sure about
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brewy said:
That's the rom I'm using at the mo, its a good rom but its forcing game to close unless I have a problem with it what I'm not sure about
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go for any stock based rom - better performance and battery life
There is no such thing as best ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493377
Best roms here
Your thread will probably be closed.
He's not asking for the best rom. He's asking for the best gaming rom... there's a difference there bro.
And yes stock based would be the best choice to go with.
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I no there isn't a best rom but most roms are made for things like music, battery life etc I'm asking if there is 1 built for the gaming side
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basically there is no rom which is specifically made for improvin gaming speed! so my advice to you is dat download GAME BOOSTER. its an app which would increase ur gamin speed at the cost of battery. hit thnx if helpd!
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He's not asking for the best rom. He's asking for the best gaming rom... there's a difference there bro.
And yes stock based would be the best choice to go with.
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No there isn't. They are all equally stupid
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ROMs are not soldiers so they can't fight. We don't allow such threads
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To answer your question,simply try a CM7 rom..
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
dmcry final
Prawesome said:
No there isn't. They are all equally stupid
No. Every rom has it's own up and downs. So if you need a rom for one specific goal, then one Rom is accually better then the other.. e.g. you don't use cm10 if you need a good battery/camera.
Quite logical if you ask me.
And I think cm7 uses less RAM then stock, so cm7 is indeed a better choice.
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That is the problem. It is a matter of opinion. What you think (regardless of your logic) doesn't make any rom better than the other (at anything). Prove your reasons by standardised, peer reveiwed methods before you say that.
I think that mods will close this thread. That doesn't mean it will happen.
One rom has better battery life than the other, but the other one might have more futures(did I spell that correct?) . Those r not opinions but facts, But which of those things you need/want, is up to you, so the best rom FOR YOU, doesn't have to be the best rom FOR ME. That's the opinion part.
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If you ask me I don't think it matters on the rom, but on the current performance governor and app running in the background.
Try installing a system app killer or changing your governor to lagfree or performance.
Best of luck!
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You could also overclock but I'm not really a fan of that..
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any CM7, performance governer, adrenaline boost before gaming. beware it may have an impact on battery.
Flashed the apocalypse rom and am using the adrenaline engine, AV got to say its defo the rom for me its very quick and I haven't had/got no problems with it at all
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for the music use power amp
for gaming use the rom you want with No-frills CPU Control and put cpu to 864 mHz and governor on smartassv2
IV set CPU at 806 that's working great so far and AV notice a list of kernals on this rom but don't want to flash 1 in case it messes the phone up and I'm not even sure if they work for my ace yet
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Can someone suggest/link me to a good ROM for free ram/gaming and a kernel
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Developer community, hi, I had the S1 for about 2 years and still do, its very good phone yo know , however, what ever I do its too slow! I'm running Android 4.2.2 with over clocked CPU and 400+ of RAM, and sometimes when I leave a small app to main, it take sometime to load the launcher,so what's wrong? Was Google right when it stopped the Nexus S updates at 4.1.2 because it can take any farther? Does project better even exist? The fastest ROM I had ever install was ICS RC2 which worked perfectly (I could run MC3 at background then leave and do some thing else, then want back and its where I have lift it) but I had datadata problem and I had to try something els. Know a days ,some new flagships had less specification than S1 and work smother!, in short words: can I make my phone faster ?
All thanks and appreciates to whom worked to develop this great phone.
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Flagship with less specification than s1?
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Yup, Some LG and Sami phones came with the same or less specifications
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Well, the more recent phones that come out right now for the low-end market are running alot newer chips than the S1 has. In my opinion, you shouldn't go to far with flashing newer versions of Android. But on the other hand, everyone wants to be on the most recent version of Android. Google had a reason for not pushing 4.2 to the Nexus S. Other manufacturers don't bring out updates for newer phones (for no reason), but Google had a good reason, because the Nexus S' hardware is outdated.
Unfortunately i doubt you can get your smoothest experience in 4.2.2.
If you want pure smoothness you should try a custom 2.3.7 as that would be ideal although i reckon 4.0.4(cm9 base) would do quite a decent job as well.
You have to try out different ROMs and see what best fits your needs.
Is a way that i use it and is good and smooth
But if expect like sg3 no it's not exactly like that but it's close. And don't disturb u
Cause our hardware's are a part of history
I installed 1.2gb apk and work smooth mostly software not game
First;
Buy a sd card high class 10
Format internal storage
Install cm latest version 4.2.2 with Odin
Install kernel like fishear
And set it up
Install cyanDelta
Install auto memory killer and set in optimum value
Install Roehsoft apk and make virtual memory on your external SD
Also never install any luncher cause it's own luncher is very light
and enjoy it
is good for daily works And smooth
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Of course 4.2.2 isn't going to be perfect. Pushing Project Butter onto our phone was a feat in itself. The smoothest 4.2.2 I've tried is Slim Bean, which really is pretty amazing. But don't be surprised about the fact that the phone can't handle Jelly Bean as well as it should. Its 3rd year anniversary is approaching fast.
Its still a wonder our single-core can handle it fine.
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Hei man I dont know what roms are you using but try thinkingridge stable by aways and the c-rom mix 18...everything is stable at 55 frames per second in the ui...and ofcourse your phone will slowdown if you put a lot of stuff in it...its normal...you cannot pretend that is going to be fast as when you fresh install the rom..my girlfriend's iphone 4 is stock,no mods but still it lags a lot more than my VERY OLD I9000 ...
By the way anyone can give me some advices on a gingerbread rom?a kickass one? I saw a couple of releases in this days...they should be good considering that the developers had plenty of time to improve stability and performances...
Thanks
Speed depends on the kernel/rom your using and the way your using it. My suggestion is GamerzRom and use the greenify app. Try it and you ll see. Ive never had a faster rom!
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whatever you decide to do dont use task managers...they just mess with the android sistem and android knows better than you when and how to kill a process...
True i found out that task managers dont really work well
Greenify works the best and alot of people use it
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Hey there,
I HAD the same problem. The 2/3 changes I made was
1.UNDERClock to 800mhz (less stress on phone and less lag
2. Use Nova launcher as default
3. I am running slim bean latest and its fantasiltic
My phone has never run better
Stay away from themes though.
FYI I am a massive app hoarder so you may have a hundred apps on your phone and blame it on that but probability 9/10 isn't.
Hope I helped
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