I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
if you rooted, you can use Autostarts or ROM toolbox from the playstore. it can change the receivers of the apps not to start at boot
CooLasFcuK said:
I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
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The simple answer is that you don't need to stop them!
As you say, Android is already very good at keeping track of background processes, to the extent that if a new program needs more RAM, Android itself will kill a background process that hasn't been used for a while to free up RAM for the new program.
The Cached processes screen SHOULD be full of recently used programs; it shows that Android is doing what it is supposed to do and is shifting inactive processes out of active RAM in case you want to load it again, without completely dumping the process memory.
Now, as for the side effect you mentioned, that would be a significant hit on battery life. By holding programs in RAM as it is supposed to do, the OS can load the program quickly and cleanly and more efficiently by simply reading the RAM rather than reading flash, writing to RAM, then reading from RAM. The general mantra for UNIX based systems is that unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Another thing to note is that if you do not close tabs when switching active programs (including going to homescreen) then the Browser is designed to hold that tab in memory. Even if you close the Browser (excluding closing the tab specifically with the "little x"). Even if you reboot the damn phone, it will still load the tabs/pages you had open last. The pages are not held in memory as such, just what was open and what tab order, so if you do open the browser after a while, it will load the last page from scratch.
TL;DR version: The running and the cached processes will remain exactly where they are until a new program needs more RAM than is available, at which point Android will kill something to make room. You do not need to do this manually. It will cause more power drain by making very inefficient use of RAM/Flash memory. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
whilst Chaos is right, I notice severe performance drops when ram is filled, despite Androids theoretical advantage. It doesnt work...
Best to prevent from loading altogheter.
Root, lose warranty, backup apps, uninstall or freeze apps so the bloatware is removed.
For others, change autostart settings in Romtoolbox. So they wont start on boot.
Search for safe stuff to delete. There are lists for that
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Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
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LoVeRice said:
Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
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Lol, even then you might still need to remove bloatware lol
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Thanks so much for detailed answers.
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A lot of times I will get random programs that I never use listed as open in the task manager. Mp3 store, nba league pass, documents to go, they all keep opening up again even though I never use them. Is there a reason for this? There are other apps that do this too, I just listed the ones I see most often.
Yes, this is normal. Android loads applications until the RAM is almost full, so they're ready to pop up in an instant when you actually launch them. If an application requires more RAM to work with than available, the system will shut down some of the inactive applications.
There are those task auto-killer programs out there that people use because they think it makes their phone run faster or tidied up, but in fact, most of the time they will slow it down because applications will take longer to start. And consume more power, because there's more work to do when starting an app. A properly written application won't consume any power when inactive, and the RAM has to be powered anyway, so that's why you want it to be used as much as possible.
Thanks for the info!
Is there anyway to exclude certain apps from opening up? There are apps on the phone like mp3 store or the stock messaging app that I would never use, so it would be more worthwhile to get the system to keep apps I actually use open instead of just random ones.
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Thanks for the info!
Is there anyway to exclude certain apps from opening up? There are apps on the phone like mp3 store or the stock messaging app that I would never use, so it would be more worthwhile to get the system to keep apps I actually use open instead of just random ones.
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Search.. All your questions have been asked and answered before.
Is there a way to tell Android what app and when or under what conditions it should exit it?
For example:
I know iOS and Android are lots different, but I can get Backgrounder on my iPod and I tell it what each app should do when I press home button.
It just gets annoying when I try to check my text message, then have to wait for the app/game/video to load again.
So if anyone knows if it is possible to have more control over how the system handles the multitasking please share.
As far as I know, you cant really do much, there are task killer apps, which I guess you can use to set apps to ignore, but genrally android does a good Job, it shouldn't be closing your apps right away unless you are running out of memory,
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
What do I have to do to remove all the apps and services that eat up all that extra ram?
Tab specs say it has 512 Ram, but I only count 400+/- in services part that shows what services are running and how much ram is used and available.
In my opinion Google is doing it all wrong, they include all this bloatware, but to uninstall it is a pain and if you do something wrong, you have to re-flash or w/e.
I think they should allow people to choose what is to be installed on there, or at least allow uninstalling of unwanted apps a lot easier with less headaches.
maxxedmk said:
What do I have to do to remove all the apps and services that eat up all that extra ram?
Tab specs say it has 512 Ram, but I only count 400+/- in services part that shows what services are running and how much ram is used and available.
In my opinion Google is doing it all wrong, they include all this bloatware, but to uninstall it is a pain and if you do something wrong, you have to re-flash or w/e.
I think they should allow people to choose what is to be installed on there, or at least allow uninstalling of unwanted apps a lot easier with less headaches.
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You can get a app from the market called startup auditor, it lets you choose which apps auto start on thier own.
What do you mean bloatware? Besides Samsung apps and touchwiz there isn't really anything extra installed
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
What I mean is all that stuff that runs in the background that takes all the memory and battery that we dont see.
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Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
no one is using any app. to stop unnecessary start up of tasks
try autostarts its very good
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Ditto on Autostarts. Also, Autokiller Memory Optimzer works really well, it doesn't kill tasks itself, it tweaks the Android function thar does it to work better.
auto killer mem optimizer workd well for me.but now i simply don use any of those batt saving app,mem apps etc i jus kill apps in inbuilt task killer...iam using my phone to the peek cause at the end ill b getting a 2ghz dual core by selling sgs.......cant stick to old things lol........cheeerz
tarunagg said:
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
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... what?
Do any of you even understand how Android works?
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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try autostarts its very good
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+1 Autostarts. It amazes me what runs on the phone after start-up, after you switch states or update apps. The perfect cure for batt draining nonsense
rocky23 said:
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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Google it. Android is Linux based. Its memory management is not the same as Windows. I'd explain further, but you're the 4,753,857,195 person to ask.
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
Shanakin said:
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
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That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
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webwude said:
That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
upichie said:
And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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Well actually I don't see the point that an app, that I hardly use once per month should be loaded everytime I start the phone or change my internet connection. Also more apps at startup increase the time when the phone is available...
But on the other hand, you are certainly right, after a while, only the latest apps are still in background / memory. What I have recognized nevertheless: if you use a lot of apps with push functionality and load on startup, the phone runs out of memory...
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I have installed dozens of apps on my Galaxy Ace and I think it's becoming too much for the poor device. I found out it frequently reboots because of RAM shortage. I tried killing all running apps, but all the memory-hogging services will just restart themselves, which also drains my battery.
So, is there a way to permanently disable Android services, other than to remove the corresponding apps? I don't need Google Maps running in the background (I don't care for tile caching), nor do I need Google Play to check for updates, yet they are active all the time and consume ~25MB of RAM, which makes the difference between freezing and a snappy phone.
Disable/force stop the apps that you do not use from the manage apps option in settings. If you are rooted, use titanium backup to get rid of apps that you don't use. Remember, do not disable any android system service unless you know what it is. You might get into trouble.
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Try this...
Use RAM managers, decrease VM heap size and remove JIT also use root startup managers to avoid apps from starting automatically other then system apps.
try autorun manager..
disable useless apps which constantly runs on background and auto starts after killing.
best one so far..
Hi, i'm thinking of buying an HTC one and i can't wait for it and i wonder how much of a difference does closing apps make in terms of battery life because it is obvious that having apps running in the background makes the OS feel a lot faster and if it's a minor downside than i'd rather have the upside of having those running in the background.
Hahaahahahahahahahahaahaha. Closing them neither increases battery nor makes the system feel faster... Have you come from an iPhone? (It doesn't make a difference on iPhones either)
nope im coning from glaxy nexus and it does make a difference in it though
According to what I've read, the newer android systems freeze the apps while in the background. I don't know what apps you'd keep open in the background, though. The only one I have keep running is my browser.
Im asking that if im surfing on net and then have to go somewhere, do i have to close apps and then put the phone in my pocket or is just locking your phone and putting it in your pocket is fine.
battle1 said:
Im asking that if im surfing on net and then have to go somewhere, do i have to close apps and then put the phone in my pocket or is just locking your phone and putting it in your pocket is fine.
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I just lock the phone and put it in my pocket. Does fine for me. I get awesome battery life. Usually your screen is what eats up your battery anyways, again I say usually ;p (always an exception somewhere). Out of all the android phones I've had, this one has the best battery life. Not saying there aren't better, but I can go a whole day with moderate use and still have a little juice at the end of the day. Now granted, if you were playing music, you may want to stop that first, but I figured that was common sense...
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Im asking that if im surfing on net and then have to go somewhere, do i have to close apps and then put the phone in my pocket or is just locking your phone and putting it in your pocket is fine.
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Just minimize it to the recent apps tray, you can just restore the app where you left off ... Android manages apps extremely efficiently so you don't need to close them, force stop them in settings, use a task manager or any of the above. It actually drains your battery more to kill apps and have them start again, especially system apps that constantly run, than it does to just leave them running.
when you pause an activity (hit the home button, rather than the back button - or venture off to a different activity)
The app does not continue running, however it does preserve the application state (as long as dalvik doesn't kill it, due to higher priority memory allocation requests)
Apps can launch background services, which are NOT paused in the same way (depending on how they are created, of course). In order to force kill all services associated with an app, you'll have to use the app manager.
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As far as performance/battery impact:
- You'd think "Oh, if i pause 50 apps then i'm going to run out of memory?" NO - the dalvik will kill them in the order it deems necessary to ensure a certain amount of memory is always free.
- This also means you cannot count on a paused app ALWAYS being where you left it off. In the middle of writing an important email? pause the app, go look something up in chrome, and come back to the email it MAY or MAY NOT BE where you left it off. (The dalvik could have killed it)
- Paused apps do not account for any CPU time, therefore there is no battery impact.
Services MAY account for cpu time depending on what they're doing - and they will run even when the app is killed depending on how they were registered.
So even in my Galaxy Nexus it's actually better if i don't swipe all the recent apps?