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I got an iPhone 3G in November of 2009 (On contract) and last September I got my SGS (New off of Craigslist). I keep seeing these new and better phones coming out in the near future and I am saying to myself.
"Self, you want one of those phones".
Examples of said phones:
Galaxy S 2
i997 Infuse 4G
Optimus X2
Optimus Black
Anyway, do you get the newest thing out there or do you stick with one phone for a while?
$500-$700 is a lot to spend on a phone every year, but I love the newest gadget
If it works and does what i want then every ten years or so .
jje
for me, it is every time there is something better for my carrier 1700+2100 AWS, which usually there are not many
I usually hold as much as I can, usually it's 2 to 3 years so I can have the contracts promo's and rebates.
My last one was the good ol' HTC Vogue. Even tough HTC wasn't supporting the device since a while, XDA Devs was and I was running latest android built on it.
Since the popularity of the SGS is pretty more than the HTC Vogue, I assume we'll get amazing support from the comunity also! So I don't think I'll change until another year or two!
I must be sick or something. My SGS works great (Stock JL2, no lag fix, no custom kernel, only rooted). But I still have this little thing about wanting the newest and best.
What will the new Galaxy S2 (Or any listed phone in the OP) have that my SGS doesn't? 4.5" screen, faster CPU (By only a small bit), more MP camera, a flash? Do I really need these things?
Maybe it's a disease or something. Why can't I be happy with what I have? Maybe a woman would help? Anyone know one available?
Ian
The phone revolution has finally come to the U.S. so things will have to change...
Before all phones were crappy so it didn't really matter...now every 6 months a phone that was once new will be old news and the new ones will be must haves...
This has been the case in europe for years and so service providers can't force customers into 2 year contracts like here...most contracts are 12 months(and you can upgrade to a new phone practically free in 10mnths) and just to get people into 18 month contracts they have to offer great incentives...hopefully that will become the case here..
But to get to the point..with phones finally getting better you do feel the need to upgrade all the time...don't get carried away...think of it like with a new tv..new ones..bigger ones, faster response time, more color,3d, internet apps,usb ports...they keep adding stuff making you want the latest and the greatest...you don't need it..you want it...but don't need it...
See what your phone has..how you use it and evaluate of it meets your needs...granted now you are using it for a lot more stuff than before...gps, internet searches, facebook updates etc...suit down and think what you use your phone and if it lacks in any department...make a note of all the areas where you would like improvement and then start researching which phone would cover those specified areas..don't get carried away by features that seem cool but once you have them you will not use...(video calling for example..it is a phase..just like it was in europe and it went away fast..not everyone has it here..its not cross platform...ie pc to phone...and it telies on spotty 4g coverage or wifi..). Once you know what you need and find which phone had that...get that phone and stick with it...
I bought the g1 when it came out because I knew I would love android..I was right..after having it for almost two years I found that it was lacking speed due to cpu and lack of memory for installed apps...granted I was using apps2sd to over come its issues but this was a bypass got an issue that was there...i researched and found that the vibrant had exactly what I needed..1ghz cpu and 16gb internal memory for apps and storage...i was right..with nero v5 rom on it and an 8gb card it is amazingly fast and it does EVERYTHING I need...i don't need anything now for a long time...i want the new stuff..i don't need them...now I will wait for a phone that comes with honeycomb and performs well with it...it will be at least 6 to 8 months before I see something worth investigating which will be near my upgrade time so I don't have to spend too much money to get it (i got the vibrant for 99 bucks through amazon wireless with a2yr contact...)
Patience, good research and will power are all key...
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"Wish in one hand, **** in the other. See which one gets filled first."
Lol, wish I had every new one that came out
But I renew my phone once every 2 years.
@Ian/w98seng, nope it doesn't change much with a woman around either!
I have a Nokia 6120 Classic right now from 2007 I think , but I LOVE SGS. Hope to get one as soon as possible with a contract. I didn't know about SGS 2, which is nice
Either when something better comes out or when O2 offer me an upgrade
Pretty much only upgrade when my existing contract expires and I get a discount on a new phone
OK, I'll be patient and wait a couple of yeas before I get another phone. It'll be hard and I'll cry a lot, but I'll be a good boy and wait. (Maybe)
you know you can SELL the phone, and upgrade to another phone....
that's what most people do to keep up with the latest and greatest
sell it meanwhile it stills hot (6 month to a year)
then upgrade to the next phone will not be as painful
it's like leasing a phone
you pay a $100 give or take every 6 mth to get a better phone
My job allows me to change the phone every year and I think its an ideal duration to play around, fiddle and poke around in a phone, especially when my company pays for it But exceptionally, Galaxy S keeps surprising me every now and then keeps me busy. Its like a woman, once you conquer it you will get over with it and get bored of it BUT not yet!! Unlike iPhone 3GS where I was looking to move on after 4-5 months.
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rajuki said:
Its like a woman, once you conquer it you will get over with it and get bored of it
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I hope no female board members see this.
Run rajuki, run.
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I hope no female board members see this.
Run rajuki, run.
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"Rajuki has just left the building!"
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AllGamer said:
you know you can SELL the phone, and upgrade to another phone....
that's what most people do to keep up with the latest and greatest
sell it meanwhile it stills hot (6 month to a year)
then upgrade to the next phone will not be as painful
it's like leasing a phone
you pay a $100 give or take every 6 mth to get a better phone
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How do you get a new one every 6 months for a100?
With a2 year contract?
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w98seeng said:
I hope no female board members see this.
Run rajuki, run.
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They get bored of us too you know...
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w98seeng said:
OK, I'll be patient and wait a couple of yeas before I get another phone. It'll be hard and I'll cry a lot, but I'll be a good boy and wait. (Maybe)
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Wait until your plan allows you to upgrade at low cost (usually after 18mnths on t-mobile) and go for a phone that had honeycomb and decent hardware to run it...I'm thinking 6-8 months from now there will be enough info on the models that are out to make an educated purchase..
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w98seeng said:
I must be sick or something. My SGS works great (Stock JL2, no lag fix, no custom kernel, only rooted). But I still have this little thing about wanting the newest and best.
What will the new Galaxy S2 (Or any listed phone in the OP) have that my SGS doesn't? 4.5" screen, faster CPU (By only a small bit), more MP camera, a flash? Do I really need these things?
Maybe it's a disease or something. Why can't I be happy with what I have? Maybe a woman would help? Anyone know one available?
Ian
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The current rumor on the sgs2 is 1.2 ghz cpu, 8mp camera with lcd flash, capacitive touch screen,2.3 gb on it, fm radio with rds,hdmi output, 16gb memory,ffc....
if you have have the current vibrant I suggest trying nero v5 with voodoo lag fix.. ka5 with proper flash support...it will completely changer your phone experience...trust me...make a nandroid so you can give it a try and if you don't like it...restore...it feels like a new phone...search for sbg.v2.4 from jdan as well and that will make it even better...
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Thanks for all the feed back. I will probably wait till my contract runs out before I get another phone.
harpocrates I'll give Nero V5 a shot, thanks.
Ian
Well it's a story known all to well. I had the bionic. Every time I would call Verizon they would tell me to wait for the new update that was around the corner or they would just replace the phone with another Bionic. The new. 905 update just made the phone unusable. I finally broke down and called verizion yet again not expecting any real help. I was very kind and basically killed em with kindness. After explaining that I have had issues since day one and that I required a working smartphone for work and there was a history of me calling all the time, they finally moved me to what they called level 2 support. Had to explain the whole process from day one to now again. The man was very kind, as was I and offered me a thunderbolt. I asked him if there was any way to change out to a different dual core 4g phone cause the thunderbolt was a step backwards. He then said he could give me a razr. OK I guess but I then asked if he could do any dual core 4g that wasn't a Motorola. He said no at first cause phone companies are cracking down on the exchanging phone issue. As I started to say OK send me the razr, he asked if I would hold for about 10min. I said sure. When he came back he said I can tell you are not happy with Motorola at all and in general not happy with the way things have been handled. He said he asked his boss if something could be done and got approved the Galaxy Nexus for me. Now I am waiting on it to arrive. (If you are willing to take a total of an hour and a half and be extra kind and not demand stuff they will work with you. Key is to keep talking till they offer a phone and never say no if they offer a phone you don't want. Just ask if its possible for something else in an indirect way) So I can't wait to start being part of the nexus forum and am very excited to be getting a phone with an unlocked bootloader again. My Incredible was just that. Incredible. I am hoping the nexus will be the same.
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Congratulations, but the "big mistake" is unnecessary and kind of insulting. I've never had any problems with mine unless I was on one of the GB-based ICS ROMs.
Sorry if offended. I have had nothing but trouble from this phone. It has been so unreliable its not funny. Even with the ics leaks I still had issues. It would had been a great experience if it was reliable. I am not the type that likes to offend so I will remove that part. Apologies my friend.
I was just being a baby. Maybe it's just me being jealous. Seriously Congrats on the S3. My brother just got one (I made him pre order to not screw up our family's unlimited plans) and I want to make love to it.
I thought the op got a galaxy nexus not a s3
Too bad you been having problems with your bionic, I haven't have any problems with mines even on the ICS leaks from 2231-235
Hope you enjoy the gnex more than I do bc for me the bionic have a better reception/data connection than the gnex I had
It is a nexus that is on its way indeed. Thanks and I am not too worried about reception as I am stability. The bionic just would not stay connected to data for nothing except on .902 and even with that I had to battery pull about every 2-3 days cause of no data. Even with the ics leaks. 3 bionics and all have had the same problem. It would have been a great phone just if data was a solid connection and an unlocked bootloader. Maybe for those still with the bionic maybe you will get an unlock tool one day. Saw a tweet from Motorola about a week ago saying they were working on one but of course its been said for a year they were going to unlock the bootloaders.
Nexus, my bad. Too many Galaxy devices going on right now! the Galaxy Nexus is a piece of sheer beauty though. Someone came with with the GSM variant on 4.1.1 for me to root, and I was amazed at just how smooth JB is.
I would not ditch a Bionic for a Nexus now.
I ditched the bionic for any dual core 4g phone they would give me. Just so happened to be a nexus.
I just got off my 3rd phone call with VZW.
1st call- Told them some of what I had tried to do to fix the data dropping. (All of which I read about here or elsewhere on the interwebz) Removed battery, adjusted nighttime settings.
Result- New Sim Card, no data drops for 2 days, then they came back with a vengence
2nd call- They asked me to factory reset my phone. I'm a little bit pissed at this point but I tried it. They are the expert in this conversation and I figured refusal to waste my time would result in me wasting more time before anything was actually resolved. Also I didn't want to end up yelling at some poor soul in a call center.
Result- Data drop within 3 hours of resetting the phone.
(less than 10 minutes ago) 3rd call- Samsung Galaxy Nexus is being shipped to me. I was leaning towards the razr but they told me that the razr was having some data problems as well. I'm really sick of this and just want a working 4g smartphone. 4g is the greatest thing before or after sliced bread, I can watch youtube with no buffering at any time. I loved the bionic so very much visible screen in direct sunlight ftw, good build qualify, fits well in my hand, ect. I didn't have to hint or argue with them to get the nexus, I asked what phones were available to me and they said the Nexus and the Razr. I hinted about the S3 and they shot that down without missing a beat, probably knew I was going to ask before I started. Also I'm getting the extended battery because they are out of the regular batteries.
Result- Oh please merciful spaghetti monster let phone work out.
If you're having data trouble call them and follow the steps. I'll see you in the nexus forum, I'll be the one lurking.
Never
Never ever have I had problem with my Bionic. I would never of traded, no way Jose. With ICS its the best thing out. Strong casing, not that plastic thin stuff. Love my Bionic but if you happy and it is what it is. Good luck with the Nexus. Reading all posts here seems like people feel the same way. In the past I never waited that long for an exchange lol.
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Surlock said:
I just got off my 3rd phone call with VZW.
1st call- Told them some of what I had tried to do to fix the data dropping. (All of which I read about here or elsewhere on the interwebz) Removed battery, adjusted nighttime settings.
Result- New Sim Card, no data drops for 2 days, then they came back with a vengence
2nd call- They asked me to factory reset my phone. I'm a little bit pissed at this point but I tried it. They are the expert in this conversation and I figured refusal to waste my time would result in me wasting more time before anything was actually resolved. Also I didn't want to end up yelling at some poor soul in a call center.
Result- Data drop within 3 hours of resetting the phone.
(less than 10 minutes ago) 3rd call- Samsung Galaxy Nexus is being shipped to me. I was leaning towards the razr but they told me that the razr was having some data problems as well. I'm really sick of this and just want a working 4g smartphone. 4g is the greatest thing before or after sliced bread, I can watch youtube with no buffering at any time. I loved the bionic so very much visible screen in direct sunlight ftw, good build qualify, fits well in my hand, ect. I didn't have to hint or argue with them to get the nexus, I asked what phones were available to me and they said the Nexus and the Razr. I hinted about the S3 and they shot that down without missing a beat, probably knew I was going to ask before I started. Also I'm getting the extended battery because they are out of the regular batteries.
Result- Oh please merciful spaghetti monster let phone work out.
If you're having data trouble call them and follow the steps. I'll see you in the nexus forum, I'll be the one lurking.
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Won't see me there. Never had data drops and since everyone is in 4g there is no 3g traffic so 3g is very smooth. Also the fact that they gave u the fat battery means they will send u the back also which when connected, it will be heavier. But if you're happy thats what counts/
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The reason they're running out of Bionis is because people are re-buying them. G o to Swappa and see that price has not dropped and that the demad is high. The Bionic is back.
Getting a new Bionic and sim card sent to me. Hopefully it works better than this one.
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For those being sent a Nexus, what about your Bionic? Did they want it mailed back to them? Did they say keep it?
vzw
my bionic's headphone jack started going bad about 5 months in, called vzw and they sent me a new phone for free being it was under warranty. I love the bionic, if it's broke, just fix it.
To those who haven't had any trouble with the bionic, I envy you greatly. I think I've given the phone more than a fair shake at this point and it gave me a white 4g signal of doom in return.
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For those being sent a Nexus, what about your Bionic? Did they want it mailed back to them? Did they say keep it?
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They want it back. I'd like to keep it, perhaps one day, when cars fly, moto will fix it and I'd have a valuable backup, or maybe the nexus would be the back up. Or I could use it like a tiny tablet for....something.
The Bionic could have been a great phone if it was not for the LOCKED BOOT LOADER, and the monsterious level of bloatware(I blame Verizon/Motorola, and not android for this issue). My experience with pure google phones has been outstanding(I own a Nexus S 4g), heck most of the modder's/developers on XDA are in essence trying to actually enjoy the greatness of simply pure google. Why else would I install a custom ROM, because most of the custom rom's are faster and bloatware free. I have what cellphone carriers have done to great phones, quite simply they turn them to ****.
My Verizon contract just ran out and I traded my Bionic for an unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus. I never had any problems with my Bionic and loved it, but the Nexus is a better phone. It's amazing how much faster and smoother it seems, and the build quality is very good. It's not cheap feeling at all. I think the Bionic's flimsy back actually made it feel a little cheaper. I do miss the Bionic's super bright screen outside, though. That thing is just amazingly visible in direct sunlight. The Nexus' screen can't hold a candle to it in that regard, at least.
I am curious to know if anyone here, that has switched from the Bionic to the Nexus, actually used ICS on their Bionic first. When I switched over to ICS from GB on my Bionic, it WAS like having a whole new phone, and responsiveness was amazing. Probably the same experience I would have gotten if I had upgraded from a .905 Bionic to a Nexus.
Well, that was my thought last night, so I called VZW and after about 10 minutes the conversation got to the point where they were offering me a replacement. No yelling or any arguing was required - it was very nice. They offered me any 4G LTE phone except the HTC 1X, Galaxy SIII or new Incredible (for free and no contract extension). They said that the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX were probably the best that were available. After much deliberation, I opted for the Razr MAXX since I think it barely wins out due to the awesome battery life. Plus, ICS is officially released for it, so it's an upgrade from the Bionic any way you look at it. It should arrive in 2-3 days. I have no idea what the development community is like for the MAXX; I was just kind of hoping there was something out there.
Worst case scenario - I don't like it, sell it on eBay and buy a Nexus with the sale money.
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I am curious to know if anyone here, that has switched from the Bionic to the Nexus, actually used ICS on their Bionic first. When I switched over to ICS from GB on my Bionic, it WAS like having a whole new phone, and responsiveness was amazing. Probably the same experience I would have gotten if I had upgraded from a .905 Bionic to a Nexus.
Well, that was my thought last night, so I called VZW and after about 10 minutes the conversation got to the point where they were offering me a replacement. No yelling or any arguing was required - it was very nice. They offered me any 4G LTE phone except the HTC 1X, Galaxy SIII or new Incredible (for free and no contract extension). They said that the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX were probably the best that were available. After much deliberation, I opted for the Razr MAXX since I think it barely wins out due to the awesome battery life. Plus, ICS is officially released for it, so it's an upgrade from the Bionic any way you look at it. It should arrive in 2-3 days. I have no idea what the development community is like for the MAXX; I was just kind of hoping there was something out there.
Worst case scenario - I don't like it, sell it on eBay and buy a Nexus with the sale money.
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I never rooted my bionic and my reading lead me to believe that the dev community hadn't fixed this particular issue with the data. You can buy a 4k battery fro the nexus for $20 so that wasn't a big issue to me. They didn't offer me a maxx just the regular razr.
Yeah, I've seen that 4K battery...Yikes. It could power a boat. The biggest appeal to the Nexus is unlocked bootloader and slim profile. Everything can have ICS these days, with the right hacks, so the "always get the latest updates from Google" tagline never swayed me. I still don't see how it beats the MAXX. I guess I'll find out soon enough if I made the right choice. I never had any complaints about the screen on the Bionic, and the MAXX is supposed to be the same if not a little better. I sit in front of an HD display all day at work to compare it to.
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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I do a bit, it's not a bad phone. Just not many custom roms. I should of researched it before, but I know now lol. I should of spent the extra 100 and get the one X at the time. I will probably keep the phone and use it for 1 more year as my main phone, what about everyone else?
also thanks to homeslice for sense4 and the all the other devs that have supported this phone.:good:
I regret it a little as well becasue of the low amount of devolpment for the phone but Homeslice's Sense 4.1 rom makes it alright. Hope that there will be a 4.2 rom for it.
Yeah I regret it a little too. I remember standing in the store debating between the vivid or the skyrocket. I kind of wish I got the skyrocket....
But I only have another month and I can get a new phone...what to get???
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lil bit. i also wish i had bought the one x at the time i got mine. but im happy with what we have. even if its not much. big thanks to the devs. :good:
Yep, very much so.
I got it on launch day, but I was deciding between the regular SGS2 and the Raider. Going off of the presence of LTE, a friend's opinion of the DHD, and how solidly built that phone was, I decided to give HTC my business. A huge mistake. The build isn't holding up as well as the DHD's is (I have since bought my friend's DHD, as he upgraded to a SGS3, and use it as my DD), as I have noticeable bronzing of the volume and power buttons, along with the clear coat chipping off the plastic near said buttons. This is only after about 8 months (and no drops) of active DD use, not even the two years (and four drops) that the DHD has endured. Sense 3.x is also nowhere nearly as nice as Sense 2.1. Another huge issue is that the DHD can easily make a full day with moderate to heavy usage; my Raider's battery lasts 8 hours maximum, regardless of usage.
Yes I do. There was a decent development community before the dev wars and then they all went their separate ways leaving the Vivid to die. Some devs have their own sites but the reason I bought this phone was because of the hype behind it. First we had a locked bootloader, then s-off took months to achieve, then dev wars. I'll be MUCH more selective with what phone I will buy from now on as a result. Not buying right away and certainly not buying from ATT will be on my checklist from here on out. Homeslice and WC have done an excellent job keeping this device alive throughout the crisis. I love Sense but cannot justify buying HTC with all of the hoops you have to jump through to use the device the way you want to. Here's to hoping the next phone I buy will be friendlier.
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Got the phone, no I don't regret it mostly because of the LTE capability. At the time I was looking at the Raider, Atrix 2 and the Vivid. All things considered (like HTC/ATT's upgrade software once and forget you policy) I probably should have gone with the Atrix, but I was an HTC lover at the time (having had the original Tilt and Tilt 2).
Next phone however will not be an HTC. I don't like the HTC One XL (no SD storage) and being able to get the ability to flash a custom Rom is increasingly becoming a pain in the ass with HTC. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah I regret it even now. I've replaced both me and my wife's vivids with nexus 4s but we're still under contract for the things till next year. I wanted the one x, but got sick of waiting on an announcement for it so I was considering just a regular non lte gs2. A friend of mine said lte was awesome, so I looked at the skyrocket instead and it was $199, the vivid was $99 and had damn near identical specs so I went for it. Loved it initially but after about 2 or 3 months of terrible battery life I decided I was going to buy whatever nexus phone came out Christmas time.
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No I don't regret it.
I came from Garminfone where there's ZERO developer community to the Raider/Vivid. Whatever there is here is more than I had
LTE: I don't have a data plan anymore as of this morning. I did have unlimited LTE with Bell in Canada for 6 months, but did not use it enough to warrant $60/month for the data plan after the free 6th month. WiFi will have to suffice for the 2 years left in my contract.
The phone has been fun to play with, but feature wise, I've grown bored with it.
I don't regret getting this phone at all. There may have been phones at the time that had "better" hardware (the stock rom on the GS2 is super smooth) but the coders who work, or have worked, on the Vivid have done an absolutely amazing job.
Remember back when CM was just a pipe dream? Now it's functional (with a few kinks, but I'm confident the devs can figure that stuff out.)
I haven't tried many roms, but from what I've experienced they beat the stock rom by a nearly infinite amount.
HTC made a great phone with the Vivid. If you don't believe me, stop by xda in a few months and compare the current state of development with what you are witnessing. Eyes wide open, jaw dropped I'd imagine.
Let me share my experience that so far I have got with this phone.
My last phone was the HTCOX, and I believe the camera resolution was way more better than this one.
Unless I'm applying wrong settings, I don't see to get good pix. They are coming too pixelated.
What do you think?
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I don't regret getting the phone, it being my first android phone and all, I've loved using the phone. Sure there's not enough development going on for it but the developers that are actually doing things for this phone are doing great jobs. It is strongly built, the only body flaw is the bronzing of the volume keys and lock button. The hardware is still up to standard. All in all a decent phone
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I am very glad I got this phone. It has been solid, reliable and has done everything I've ever asked it to do. I was fortunate to fall in with WC early on as a vivid beta tester. I am currently running a beta ROM (might not be publicly released) from WC and it is incredible. Fast, stable and outstanding battery life.
I foresee this phone carrying me through for another two years at least.
This fall I will ditch my overpriced AT&T service plan and hook into either the T-Mo $30 plan or the Straight Talk $45 plan. The money I save will go toward a new unlocked phone down the road.
I really don't hate htc anymore. And that's why I regret that phone. Didn't look into the fine details, I seriously believed it to be HTCs flagship device on at&t. Nope, it was the budget friendly lte phone. It didn't make a big splash nor was it intended too, just a phone with a $99 price tag intended to sway holiday shoppers.
For every galaxy s that comes out, Samsung releases 200 crap models, and as for htc? The sensation was the flagship, the vivid was your Samsung Galaxy ace. Nuff said.
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That's exactly what happend to me. Best buy had this for for 0 dollars and on 3 year contract and plus and 100 gift card so I immediately bought it without much thought since it was my first android phone.
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The thing is that this was the flagship phone and was marketed as such. In SF there were billboards everywhere with this phone along with lte branding everywhere. It was being sold for 200 on contract for 3 weeks and because it didn't sell well they dropped the price to move more units. 3 months later the one X dropped and this phone faded into the sunset. I even wrote to HTC wondering why our phone was booted to the legacy section after 3 months and they gave me the runaround. The HTC M4 will likely release in another couple of months. And will be for a larger audience because of its smaller size. HTC never changed. They won't be wasting my time or getting my money any longer.
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I don't think it means much that it was on a billboard, I mean at&t is marketing the hell out of the HTC first right now, I wouldn't consider it a flagship by any means.
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I don't think it means much that it was on a billboard, I mean at&t is marketing the hell out of the HTC first right now, I wouldn't consider it a flagship by any means.
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It was all over the city and they had TV commercials all over the bay area for it as well. At the time, Verizon was the only carrier with an active LTE network and ATT needed this flagship phone, the first LTE phone, to get in the consumers hands. They handled the support for this phone poorly plain and simple.
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Yeah but wasn't the skyrocket released along side it? The lg nitro was right around the same time too. The nitro was the same price when I bought it but I wasn't sure I trusted LG. Go figure, now I'm using an LG, and love it.
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Yeah they both came out at about the same time. Looking forward to the next Nexus regardless though. LG has done well with their handsets
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Well i got the galaxy s4 yesterday so i will no longer be using the vivid. im gonna miss its horrible battery life, shoddy sense 3.6 ui, etc. but im gonna mis you guys. farewell.:crying:
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Well i got the galaxy s4 yesterday so i will no longer be using the vivid. im gonna miss its horrible battery life, shoddy sense 3.6 ui, etc. but im gonna mis you guys. farewell.:crying:
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See ya around man, you'll be happier trust me, I really don't miss my vivid much at all!
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See ya around man, you'll be happier trust me, I really don't miss my vivid much at all!
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How is the Nexus 4 on AT&T? do you get HSPA? or is it strictly 2g/EDGE?
Yeah I get hspa+, usually 6-12mb, it's not bad at all. Just make sure they don't mess with your plan and put the apn in from your vivid, otherwise you'll get stuck on the regular 3G plan. At&t did that to my wife.
Actually it was a big mess. I got mine in January, and I needed a micro sim. I went to the store, and the manager ended up taking care of me, and she gave me a micro sim, didn't mess with my account, and I was on my way. Well when my wife got hers in march, same thing went in there for a micro sim, but got a regular employee this time. When we got back her data wouldn't work at all! So I checked the account, and for whatever reason the idiot deleted her data plan all together! So I call at&t and get it back but they put her on the regular 3G plan for smartphones and the Vivid apn wouldn't even connect! Finally I talked to an employee on live chat the next day and got them to put her back on the lte plan!
So make sure they don't tamper with your account! Either that or get a sim cutter and try it out!
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I've been thinking about getting either the Nexus 4 or the LG optimus G. Basically the same phone, I have another year on my contract but the Vivid is quickly dying out. After that I will probably jump to Tmobile as it will be cheaper than AT&T even with my corporate discount.
Yeah the nexus 4 was a no brainer for me, I was sick of my vivid, and I am under contract until march 2014, so it was the cheapest option. It's a nice phone especially for the price. But its not perfect either, I will warn you. Camera is a downgrade from the vivid, it doesn't suck, and in well lit rooms the camera is just as nice. But in low light, the vivid owns it. Also build quality doesn't suck but it's not built as nice as the vivid. It seems well built out of the box, but there are gaps between the screen and bezel that tend to get dust stuck in them and over time the back glass develops a slight creaking sound to it. Also the chrome around the outside edges gets scuffed, poor design choice imo, should of used a flat silver instead.
Figured I'd lay it to you straight. It's an excellent phone but it's not perfect. And make sure you get a case if you get one, back glass is very slick and the phone tends to make suicide dives on its own when you just sit it down. Happened to me twice, luckily, no damage.
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Yeah the nexus 4 was a no brainer for me, I was sick of my vivid, and I am under contract until march 2014, so it was the cheapest option. It's a nice phone especially for the price. But its not perfect either, I will warn you. Camera is a downgrade from the vivid, it doesn't suck, and in well lit rooms the camera is just as nice. But in low light, the vivid owns it. Also build quality doesn't suck but it's not built as nice as the vivid. It seems well built out of the box, but there are gaps between the screen and bezel that tend to get dust stuck in them and over time the back glass develops a slight creaking sound to it. Also the chrome around the outside edges gets scuffed, poor design choice imo, should of used a flat silver instead.
Figured I'd lay it to you straight. It's an excellent phone but it's not perfect. And make sure you get a case if you get one, back glass is very slick and the phone tends to make suicide dives on its own when you just sit it down. Happened to me twice, luckily, no damage.
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Thanks! I actually dropped my vivid yesterday from about waist high, luckily I always have a case on my phone. NO damage.
I know what you mean.
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Well i got the galaxy s4 yesterday so i will no longer be using the vivid. im gonna miss its horrible battery life, shoddy sense 3.6 ui, etc. but im gonna mis you guys. farewell.:crying:
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When my wife's Galaxy 2 Skyrocket got its SECOND upgrade (originally Gingerbread, upgraded to ICS, then upgraded to Jellybean) and when HTC said that the Vivid would NOT get an upgrade to Jellybean, that was what made my mind up that this was the last HTC phone that I would own. I've had three, but I am done with HTC. That S4 looks sooooo good!
My dad and one of my friends have an Optimus G. Its a nice phone.
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When my wife's Galaxy 2 Skyrocket got its SECOND upgrade (originally Gingerbread, upgraded to ICS, then upgraded to Jellybean) and when HTC said that the Vivid would NOT get an upgrade to Jellybean, that was what made my mind up that this was the last HTC phone that I would own. I've had three, but I am done with HTC. That S4 looks sooooo good!
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I thought the same thing this is the last htc i will buy.
My Optimus G arrives Friday, looks like just in time as the forum is dying again (the 2nd time since I have had my Vivid.)
Yeah the phone is getting old and people are getting their early upgrades now. If cyanogenmod would of came last summer, development might still be going but now, too little too late.
Lesson learned for me, if it's not a popular device, don't upgrade to it. Yeah at first I was happy but a couple months in, the honeymoon was over and the bugs of sense 3.6 that were never address, terrible battery life, and no actual roms outside of modified stock roms had me plotting a plan to get a galaxy nexus... But by the time I had the money, the nexus 4 was out, and well that's a no brainer
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The HTC vivid is the best phone i have used.great camera.music player is good but could.have been better ,16gb internal storage.plus two or three more.plus memory card slot up 32gb.yeah the Samsung galaxy phones are good but for someone like me
I don't have the money to upgrade to a new phone nor do I have the credit to get a contract plan,I also have the HTC EVO 4g I use it to flash Rome and.listen to.music I do have a question I have asked this twice and no response, I want to flash Rom on the vivid,but will flashing Roms relock my carrier unlocked phone back to att,thanks
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The HTC vivid is the best phone i have used.great camera.music player is good but could.have been better ,16gb internal storage.plus two or three more.plus memory card slot up 32gb.yeah the Samsung galaxy phones are good but for someone like me
I don't have the money to upgrade to a new phone nor do I have the credit to get a contract plan,I also have the HTC EVO 4g I use it to flash Rome and.listen to.music I do have a question I have asked this twice and no response, I want to flash Rom on the vivid,but will flashing Roms relock my carrier unlocked phone back to att,thanks
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I believe it should stay unlocked
pspfreek3691 said:
The HTC vivid is the best phone i have used.great camera.music player is good but could.have been better ,16gb internal storage.plus two or three more.plus memory card slot up 32gb.yeah the Samsung galaxy phones are good but for someone like me
I don't have the money to upgrade to a new phone nor do I have the credit to get a contract plan,I also have the HTC EVO 4g I use it to flash Rome and.listen to.music I do have a question I have asked this twice and no response, I want to flash Rom on the vivid,but will flashing Roms relock my carrier unlocked phone back to att,thanks
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It will stay unlocked...
I unlocked mine and flash all the time
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Well it is sad to say this but I have officially retired my HTC Velocity 4G. I said before that this phone will be my last HTC but the HTC One was just to cool to ignore.
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thanks to all
Thank you all very much: as soon as get back home in the morning I may just do a Flash I do have one Rom downloaded for the vivid its. Alled Blitz
I can't remember who made it but from the pics it looks like a very nice rom