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I'm currently running the stock AT&T Rom (Windows Mobile 6.0) without bloatware on my Tilt. I'm running the newest Slingbox (1.6) for Pocket PC.
I currently have 2 "H" signal where I watch my slingplayer, but either my phone or the signal is screwy.
When watching I will have bursts of good framerate, but constant freezing, and choppy playback.
I've tried all sorts of combinations of settings.
I've tried the slingplayer auto optimization, I've set my bit rate to a variety of amounts, and frame rates, as well as with and without the GDI rendering. I've tried just about every combo of settings in the player. I do know that this is not on the slingbox's end though, as it works great from computers when remote viewing..
I've changed my KaiserTweak settings (such as TCP windows size) but none of those improve it.
I've even set my bitrate to the lowest possible it still freezes off and on. I've gotten to the point where I think it must be the phone that is causing this.
I'm surprised I don't see more people with this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may improve this for me?
what is the lowest bw that slingplayer have? if you are using edge, you'll have to be able to go as low as 40kbps... also, what is your upstream bw limited to? try connecting via wifi & see if you are still having problems.
i use orb to stream my tv tuner & prefer not to waste money on slingplayer...
If you want to see if it's the phone or the signal, plug it into a computer on the network of your SlingBox and use the ActiveSync connection. At least that way, if it works great you know it's a singal/bandwidth issue, and if it's still screwy, you know it's your phone.
Personally, mine ran fine on the AT&T stock Rom for quite a while, and I didn't really notice any issues....but I usually had at least 3 or 4 H bars when I was using it. Right now I'm running a cooked 6.1 rom and it works great on that too, but you should still be able to get decent playback with stock.
Another thing to try (this might sound odd), but try disabling HDSPA. There could be a chance that you actually get better signal with 3G than with H (and 3G is still enough speed for a smooth picture).
Have you tried it on a Wireless LAN? Mine works no problem at all either on 3g or wireless lan.
odd.... I have edge so I dont sling unless I find wifi or travel out of my city to a 3g or better area. But when I was on "H" it was near wifi quality with no hiccups. Try wifi and try ruling out at&t's network.
SlingBox Rules. One of the greatest purchases I've ever made. I like connecting to my friends slingbox in oregon to watch Pac 10 college football games! Go Trojans
Well I connected my phone to my wifi at home (network my box is on) - and it was better, but still not great. Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
Even at home my frame-rate was fairly choppy. I tried Auto optimization, and many variations of bit-rate and other settings (GDI).
Is there any setting in KaiserTweak that may actually slow internet? Such as TCP window size, or resends (Data/Connect)? (Would the GDI/Font Cache help with slingplayer any since it's using GDI rendering?
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. It may just be this spot were I sit at work has a shakey signal strength or something.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let me know - Thanks.
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?
nogardtilt said:
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?
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I'm not really sure why that could be the case. I just know that in certain places I can get a very different level of signal strength between E and H (E is full strength, but only 2 bars of H), so I thought that could possibly also be the case between H and 3G (maybe you could get 4 bars of 3G where you only could get 2 bars of H). So yeah....I don't have a whole lot of knowledge behind that, but I figured it was an easy enough test to try....just trying to help you troubleshoot.
Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.
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Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.
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I'm not surprised by that, when you do that it's a smaller resolution - which uses less bandwidth.
I'll try again next work-week (couldn't test today) to see if any of these suggestions helped. At the point I'm assuming that I have some network issues where I sit.
Well, I did try the suggestions a few weeks back but no change. I still assume where I sit at work has some signal issues.
I did notice however that even at home on my wifi my frame-rate was still choppier than it should have been. This I have attributed to the poor video playback on the Tilt.
In any case, I did discover something helpful here: I updated to the official AT&T 6.1 ROM and noticed a drastic improvement. Although the video playback is not where it should be for the phone, it did improve the Slingplayer quality greatly.
I could instantly notice the video looked smoother and more consistent. I now can go 1-2 hours of slingplaying with only 1 or 2 hiccups, and those have been very minor.
I think my earlier troubles were a mix of the phone performance and the signal. But the 6.1 change has really helped out.
I need to try the HTC CA drivers and see if it helps anymore. I did notice that the Samsung Omnia ones "seemed" to help some (back on 6.0) - but I know it was not supposed to, so maybe I just had a lucky streak of good signal or something.
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I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.
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I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.
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Well, I can't speak for Orb.....but yeah, I said streaming video is working for me. What I DIDN'T say is that streaming video is working for me on EDGE. So what are you doing wrong?.....you are trying to get streaming video to work over a connection that is too slow for it. You need to have a decent 3G (preferably HSDPA) connection to be able to use this sort of thing - EDGE simply wasn't made to do what you are trying to do.
I am experiencing the same issue on a brand new Sprint Touch pro with slingplayer 1.6. The phone is an EVDO rev-a device and I still get low framerate, dropping datarate, etc, then sometimes it falls back to the 1x network. I tried wifi connected to a WRT54g and it definitely stabilized but the kbps averaged 245 to 330 at 14 FPS. My Windows xp client averages about 745 kbps on the same internet connection.
I tried it at home where the slingbox truly resides, connected to wifi and there were still low results. I thought for sure it would go over 1000 kbps. There has to be some network throttling going on on Windows Mobile.
Any others out there experiencing this? Any other tweaks that someone else may discovered?
I get the same, tethered to my laptop I get impeccable performance.
The same 3g connection on my tilt stutters on full screen, i generally enable slingstream optimisation and gdi rendering which helps.
There is a new Mobile Client in the pipeline.... although if its a driver issue the tilt is screwed either way, because on my Blue Angel over wifi slingplayer is perfect, as good as a portable tv.
Im assuming its a combination of bad drivers and slingplayer throttling the bandwidth for battery purposes.
Id like to be able to have a slider much like the wifi performance one, because a lot of the time my tilt is externally powered, so power usage is not an issue.
I kinda had this problem when I switched from my 8525 to the tilt, I just switched all the setting back to default and it is pretty much flawless as long as I'm in 3g and also pretty damn good in the edge network as long as I have at least 3 bars. Have you tried reinstalling Slingplayer mobile/ Also make sure you dont have any background application running in your active programs list.
Alright, so as many of you guys have noticed, the JF 1.51 build supports streaming YouTube videos in high quality. All other builds do not. Currently I am using the TwistedZero Hero build, and am switching to JACMan. However, either way, the YouTube does not support High Quality. This support is not in the applications, it is somewhere in the build itself. I have tried pushing the JF 1.51 version of YouTube to these builds, and still no High Quality. Anyone think they could possibly locate this file that allows this?
i dont understand what u mean. im on jac hero 1.64 and youtube vid are automatically played in hq when on wifi and i assume 3g aswell. u can go to settings of the vid and switch to normal quality. HQ is default for higher data streams
I'm running Haykuro's ION build right now, and High Quality YouTube is definitely there.
Well... that is a bit strange... Im running on JAC, but no high quality option where it usually is. I have wi-fi and full 3G coverage, hmm..
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Well... that is a bit strange... Im running on JAC, but no high quality option where it usually is. I have wi-fi and full 3G coverage, hmm..
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Having coverage isn't the same as actually getting it. Try a speed test and see if you actually have the bandwidth for HQ YouTube. I don't know what's actually required, but at least you can see if yours is slow or fast.
you need to have 3G coverage or WiFi without either of those the HQ feature will not show. I have cyanogen 3.3.6 and it works flawlessly
doesn't the High Quality option only show when connected via WiFi?
under the Roger's build I am able to switch from normal-high quality when using WiFi. If under 3G or Edge there is no option to switch the quality.
I'm pretty sure i saw a vid somewhere when they were had a Rogers Dream demo. The guy was able to switch to High Quality when connected via 3G, I wonder why the it doesn't work for me. Btw im using Virtudude's Rogers Rom.
Yes I am on JAC 1.64 and as always HQ is available when you're on Wifi. I have tried pushing YouTube from another build and still nothing. I have a good 3g signal most of the day and I don't have Wifi so I would love to know how others are getting this to work?
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Yes I am on JAC 1.64 and as always HQ is available when you're on Wifi. I have tried pushing YouTube from another build and still nothing. I have a good 3g signal most of the day and I don't have Wifi so I would love to know how others are getting this to work?
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same here, I am on Jacman 1.65r2 and no HQ in my area with 3G, but as soon as I switch to Wifi it works, the option just appeared in the menu to go normal or high quality, this option is not there when connected 3G at least in this area
Yeah Sacramento where I live has Excellent 3g coverage, even in my house so I don't think it is an issue of not having a strong signal. In the Dev section there is a topic about this and a theory that b/c of us that use Hero have the H icon instead of 3g that YouTube isn't interpreting that as having 3g. I can't see how that is accurate, the signal is the same no matter the icon. Hopefully a resolution can be discovered soon.
From one post I read it could possibly be because it's registering as H rather than 3G and since the app hasn't been coded to recognise H(3.5G) it's defaulting to normal quality. So one option would be to disable 3.5G so we always have 3G. Not sure if that's correct, but it's one idea I think might work.
I'm running the latest Dude's Cupcake ROM (no Hero here....) and when I select a video over my 3G network and press MENU....MORE I get the option of watching in HQ.
I didn't even know about this until now so I'm pretty happy!
Wow so now it's confirmed to work on JF & The Dude's. I wonder if anyone using another non Hero build can confirm theirs working. Maybe there is something to this H vs 3g thing.
I am running Ivan's Just Home rom build 19. Great Rom Ivan! props btw.
I have a question. Is there anything I can do to get You Tube videos running smoother on my phone. I have it over clocked to 260 using battery status plus.
It just buffers and buffers. Is there a Tweak out there I can use?
Are you using EDGE/GPRS or Wifi to view youtube vidz?
i am using gprs to view videos, is it better to use wifi?
Well GPRS is only slightly faster than dial-up, so you can see where that might be a problem with YouTube. Wifi is A LOT faster than GPRS, but you have to have an open network available.
its kinda hard to get smooth video thru GPRS and WIFI well theres no complaints there
I am using Team rocket 1.5 ICS rom and I found the new stock youtube app in ICS support HD playback when you using wifi connection but my question is , is it possible to have HD playback too when in 3G/HSDPA+ 21mb mode?
I know tubemate and other similar apps can but I want to stick with the stock youtube app, I like the UI and overall control better.
Thanks for helping, guys
i want to know too, if this is possible! mobile connections are fast enough for HD videos, so is it possible to force HD? or is there a good app for it? i can't find "tubemate"...
HD Youtube works for me on HSDPA on T-Mobile
funny. can you post some details about your phone? does it work on HSDPA only, or 3G (UMTS) too?
even if i have HSPA+ it doesn't give me the chance to switch to HD...
geruetzel said:
funny. can you post some details about your phone? does it work on HSDPA only, or 3G (UMTS) too?
even if i have HSPA+ it doesn't give me the chance to switch to HD...
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+1,my stock youtube app only play HD format when connecting to WIFI.
I can't find any way to force HD at 3G connection , my carrier's internet is more than sufficient to stream HD youtube, I want to utilize the speed and the screen
i am back to running Stock JB Rom on my n7000
i have a certain streaming app that begins with 'Mob' that kills my internet connection if i am on 3g (not wifi)
once i run it , and try to start a stream 3g stops working completely. if i fire up the browser, web pages just time out. If i switch off Mobile Internet then back on, everything returns to normal
This also happens with the UListen (allows you to listen to youtube videos without the video playing) app .
i can browse the videos no problem using the Ulistern app but as soon as i try to play one, 3g just stops. These are the only two apps that seems to do this to my phone
On wifi these two apps work fine.
Did it when i was rooted running CM11 too.