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Slingplayer freezing and choppy (AT&T Tilt)

I'm currently running the stock AT&T Rom (Windows Mobile 6.0) without bloatware on my Tilt. I'm running the newest Slingbox (1.6) for Pocket PC.
I currently have 2 "H" signal where I watch my slingplayer, but either my phone or the signal is screwy.
When watching I will have bursts of good framerate, but constant freezing, and choppy playback.
I've tried all sorts of combinations of settings.
I've tried the slingplayer auto optimization, I've set my bit rate to a variety of amounts, and frame rates, as well as with and without the GDI rendering. I've tried just about every combo of settings in the player. I do know that this is not on the slingbox's end though, as it works great from computers when remote viewing..
I've changed my KaiserTweak settings (such as TCP windows size) but none of those improve it.
I've even set my bitrate to the lowest possible it still freezes off and on. I've gotten to the point where I think it must be the phone that is causing this.
I'm surprised I don't see more people with this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may improve this for me?

what is the lowest bw that slingplayer have? if you are using edge, you'll have to be able to go as low as 40kbps... also, what is your upstream bw limited to? try connecting via wifi & see if you are still having problems.
i use orb to stream my tv tuner & prefer not to waste money on slingplayer...

If you want to see if it's the phone or the signal, plug it into a computer on the network of your SlingBox and use the ActiveSync connection. At least that way, if it works great you know it's a singal/bandwidth issue, and if it's still screwy, you know it's your phone.
Personally, mine ran fine on the AT&T stock Rom for quite a while, and I didn't really notice any issues....but I usually had at least 3 or 4 H bars when I was using it. Right now I'm running a cooked 6.1 rom and it works great on that too, but you should still be able to get decent playback with stock.
Another thing to try (this might sound odd), but try disabling HDSPA. There could be a chance that you actually get better signal with 3G than with H (and 3G is still enough speed for a smooth picture).

Have you tried it on a Wireless LAN? Mine works no problem at all either on 3g or wireless lan.

odd.... I have edge so I dont sling unless I find wifi or travel out of my city to a 3g or better area. But when I was on "H" it was near wifi quality with no hiccups. Try wifi and try ruling out at&t's network.
SlingBox Rules. One of the greatest purchases I've ever made. I like connecting to my friends slingbox in oregon to watch Pac 10 college football games! Go Trojans

Well I connected my phone to my wifi at home (network my box is on) - and it was better, but still not great. Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
Even at home my frame-rate was fairly choppy. I tried Auto optimization, and many variations of bit-rate and other settings (GDI).
Is there any setting in KaiserTweak that may actually slow internet? Such as TCP window size, or resends (Data/Connect)? (Would the GDI/Font Cache help with slingplayer any since it's using GDI rendering?
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. It may just be this spot were I sit at work has a shakey signal strength or something.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let me know - Thanks.
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?

nogardtilt said:
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?
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I'm not really sure why that could be the case. I just know that in certain places I can get a very different level of signal strength between E and H (E is full strength, but only 2 bars of H), so I thought that could possibly also be the case between H and 3G (maybe you could get 4 bars of 3G where you only could get 2 bars of H). So yeah....I don't have a whole lot of knowledge behind that, but I figured it was an easy enough test to try....just trying to help you troubleshoot.

Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.

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Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.
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I'm not surprised by that, when you do that it's a smaller resolution - which uses less bandwidth.
I'll try again next work-week (couldn't test today) to see if any of these suggestions helped. At the point I'm assuming that I have some network issues where I sit.

Well, I did try the suggestions a few weeks back but no change. I still assume where I sit at work has some signal issues.
I did notice however that even at home on my wifi my frame-rate was still choppier than it should have been. This I have attributed to the poor video playback on the Tilt.
In any case, I did discover something helpful here: I updated to the official AT&T 6.1 ROM and noticed a drastic improvement. Although the video playback is not where it should be for the phone, it did improve the Slingplayer quality greatly.
I could instantly notice the video looked smoother and more consistent. I now can go 1-2 hours of slingplaying with only 1 or 2 hiccups, and those have been very minor.
I think my earlier troubles were a mix of the phone performance and the signal. But the 6.1 change has really helped out.
I need to try the HTC CA drivers and see if it helps anymore. I did notice that the Samsung Omnia ones "seemed" to help some (back on 6.0) - but I know it was not supposed to, so maybe I just had a lucky streak of good signal or something.

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I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.

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I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.
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Well, I can't speak for Orb.....but yeah, I said streaming video is working for me. What I DIDN'T say is that streaming video is working for me on EDGE. So what are you doing wrong?.....you are trying to get streaming video to work over a connection that is too slow for it. You need to have a decent 3G (preferably HSDPA) connection to be able to use this sort of thing - EDGE simply wasn't made to do what you are trying to do.

I am experiencing the same issue on a brand new Sprint Touch pro with slingplayer 1.6. The phone is an EVDO rev-a device and I still get low framerate, dropping datarate, etc, then sometimes it falls back to the 1x network. I tried wifi connected to a WRT54g and it definitely stabilized but the kbps averaged 245 to 330 at 14 FPS. My Windows xp client averages about 745 kbps on the same internet connection.
I tried it at home where the slingbox truly resides, connected to wifi and there were still low results. I thought for sure it would go over 1000 kbps. There has to be some network throttling going on on Windows Mobile.
Any others out there experiencing this? Any other tweaks that someone else may discovered?

I get the same, tethered to my laptop I get impeccable performance.
The same 3g connection on my tilt stutters on full screen, i generally enable slingstream optimisation and gdi rendering which helps.
There is a new Mobile Client in the pipeline.... although if its a driver issue the tilt is screwed either way, because on my Blue Angel over wifi slingplayer is perfect, as good as a portable tv.
Im assuming its a combination of bad drivers and slingplayer throttling the bandwidth for battery purposes.
Id like to be able to have a slider much like the wifi performance one, because a lot of the time my tilt is externally powered, so power usage is not an issue.

I kinda had this problem when I switched from my 8525 to the tilt, I just switched all the setting back to default and it is pretty much flawless as long as I'm in 3g and also pretty damn good in the edge network as long as I have at least 3 bars. Have you tried reinstalling Slingplayer mobile/ Also make sure you dont have any background application running in your active programs list.

How do I improve 3g image quality?

I don't even know if this is possible or not. When I leave any wi-fi area, my 3g turns on, but the image quality downgrades due to compression methods I guess, i.e. avatar pics on twitter apps are lower quality & web surfing.
Is there any way to use wf-fi quality images on a 3g signal?, I don't care if this will slow down my internet experience really.
Im in the UK with t-mobile on a G1 running Super D 1.6

I dont know but iphone devs have a couple apps that 'trick' the device into tbinking its on wifi so that even on 3g image/video quality equals wifi. its awesome. hope this happens on android

Hopefully someone will look into creating an app that would do this.

This is insane.
Data is data. It doesn't matter what kind of network you are connected to.
If your image quality is lower on 3g, then it is your ISP that is interfering with the files you are receiving.

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This is insane.
Data is data. It doesn't matter what kind of network you are connected to.
If your image quality is lower on 3g, then it is your ISP that is interfering with the files you are receiving.
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I didn't mention anything about data, what I meant was the method compression that travels through the 3g signal

Slingplayer Issues?

Does anyone else out there have Slingplayer installed on their Captivate? They don't offer any trial version so I shelled out $30 for this piece of software and I can't get it to work. It works fine over WiFi at home, but it won't work right over 3G. I originally posted this issue in the Slingbox forums but I thought I'd repost here since XDA members tend to actually know something about cell phones/technology.
Here is my original post on Slingbox forums: http://answers.slingbox.com/message/13962#13962
Here is the issue:
When I try to play video over 3G it stops after a second or two and plays choppy after that (and I don't mean a little choppy, I mean like audio will come back for a second every minute or two). It used to work fine on my old phones but just to test it, I put my sim card back in my old Tilt 2 and tried out SlingPlayer. I was able to get a steady stream with decent quality and no cut outs. I also went to mobilespeedtest.com and did a 2MB test with my Tilt 2 and got around 1300KBPS. Then, I put the sim back in my Captivate and tried to watch from the exact same spot. It played for the first 2 seconds then the video stopped. The menus still worked so the program wasn't hung or anything, the stream just stopped coming in. I then exited SlingPlayer and loaded up mobilespeedtest.com on my Captivate. On the 2MB test, I got aprox 3500KBPS. Almost 3 times the bandwidth of my Tilt 2 and I coudln't watch the stream at all.
Since the video worked on my Tilt 2, it can't be an issue with my slingbox and router setup at home. Also, my Captivate gets faster download speeds so it can't be an issue related to bandwidth.
It works fine over WiFi when I'm at home, but it refuses to work over 3G. I also got poor results over WiFi from a location outside my home. Seems like it has trouble with going to an external IP address? Again, my slingbox works fine on my other phone and on computers that are outside my network so it can't be a slingbox/router configuration issue. The only device with trouble is the Captivate. Since the slingplayer mobile software got 4.5 stars in the marketplace, I'd imagine its working good on other phones and the issue is with the Captivate/Galaxy S phones. Thoughts?

I have sling player on my captivate and it streams fine over the 3g network. Sometimes it does cut out but thats only when I have really crappy 3g coverage. I wish I had some advice for ya, but I just wanted to write and let you know that it's working great for me over 3g. So the program does work on the captivate without issues. I'm wondering what the issue could be.

Thanks for your reply. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Slingplayer. It still gives me trouble over 3g, regardless of signal strength. Basically, when I turn on SlingPlayer it will stream just fine if I have good 3g signal. But once I change channels, it looses the video stream. I can still hear the audio, but the video freezes and won't comeback until I disconnect and reconnect. Are you able to change channels without issue?

i have sling player working fine on my euro i9000 and it works fine over 3g as long as you have good signal.. i have a feeling that yours is not working well because of at&t limiting the 3g upload speed which also affects downlolad..

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i have sling player working fine on my euro i9000 and it works fine over 3g as long as you have good signal.. i have a feeling that yours is not working well because of at&t limiting the 3g upload speed which also affects downlolad..
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I have at&t and it work fine for me also. I guess the only thing i can say is make sure you don't have other stuff in the background working or taking up data

I have it as well.. I have AT&T and zero issues with 3g or wifi... works great.. sometimes it chops up when i first start it but for like 3 seconds then fine.

I also have the Slinglayer working without a problem.

[Q] HD7 Wifi Speed

Hi All
Had my HD7 for a few weeks now and im liking it, used to be an IPhone user but thats all changed now.
One thing i want to know is that the HD7 is stated as having wireless N capabilities. When im on my wireless N network at home im getting really slow responses from the browser or when downloading apps from the market place (like im on GPRS or non wifi). I have a wireless N network setup and also have 50mb Cable so its not a problem with the LAN/WAN as i can download lightening fast with the lappy or even when i had the Iphone on the same LAN.
Anyone else noticed that the wifi is not very fast? Also is there a "speed test" app that can tell me the sorta speed im getting, used to be one on the Iphone, but obviously cant be flash based, which are most on the web. Did find one non flash based site but im not convinced its that good.
Any advise is appreciated.

I use tracert's non-flash based bandwidth meter and seem to get low reading as well. my max. bandwidth is 15 Mbps yet my HD7 usually tests well below 10 Mbps. Odd. In terms of downloads though, my HD7 is speedy. I downloaded NFS from Xbox Live and calculated it was downloading at about 1 MB/s (which is fair for a 15 Mbps connection). So maybe the speed tests are off.

no problems for me.
It's weird that on IE on the HD2 you could use speedtest.net to test speeds, but on the hd7, it says you don't have the proper flash installed....

Hd 7 dosent support flash yet, maybe with update next year.. as far as I know this is the best device for my wifi although its not N
Hero used to struggle with my wifi but the hd 7 is super brilliant..
Just love it on this one

No problems here. And when it comes to browsing this thing is a pure joy ! Imagine when they will update the browser with Flash 10.1 and overall speed. I browsed today a little longer then usual and when I got home and turned my PC on it all felt boring. This is the first time I am experiencing a far more enjoyable browsing on my phone rather than my PC.
They have done an amazing job

mmm must just be mine then, an app from marketplace on the phone took about 3 minutes to download while on wifi and its just a small notes app. Weird! Ill keep having a look at whats going on.

It's surely something with your phone or with the WLAN. When I am home I am browsing only via WiFi and in my room I only get low signal but even then it runs pretty fast.

I have to disable cellular data and 3g to make my WiFi fast on my hd7. I'm on tmobile and in an edge coverage area. It seems that the phone prefers cellular data over WiFi even when there is a clear speed advantage in WiFi.

I have experienced zero problems with the HD7 over wifi. This is also with T-Mobile coverage in an edge only area. Settings allow for all network types including 3G.

Well im surprised because my experience in Puerto Rico with the hd7 on the internet speed its noe the best.
When use the app's for speed test never come colse to 1 mega and the faster speed its around 400 kpbs its T-Mobile or the phone really i'm think its the phone because my wife have an Lg optimus with android and the same t-mobile but the speed its around 1.2 and 1.5 mbps so if any one have the solutions wow i'm apreaciate to hear about.

[Q] Wired Tether Connectivity

So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.

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So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.
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Does your PC have a wireless card? If so, get Wireless Tether, I use it and it works great for me. I haven't tried streaming any movies while using it, but I would imagine it would be good. You could also try PdaNet. I think the latter is slower, but I just use my regular internet when I'm at home. Hope this helps

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Does your PC have a wireless card? If so, get Wireless Tether, I use it and it works great for me. I haven't tried streaming any movies while using it, but I would imagine it would be good. You could also try PdaNet. I think the latter is slower, but I just use my regular internet when I'm at home. Hope this helps
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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I have found that wireless tether seems to run slower than the wired tether. I think it may be rom related cause it works better on some roms then others.

kbizzle said:
So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.
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I use wired tether everyday, for both it's speed and the fact it doesnt turn my phone into a small battery powered heater like wifi tether does. I have noticed fluctuations in download rates, and it seems to occur more often with streaming than it does with a straight download. It is somewhat normal for a phone's signal to fluctuate some even if you have full signal bars. When I watch youtube or hulu I simply turn the quality down. It caches faster this way and thus is not as affected by the drops in speed.