In this drop test the phone survives 2 falls from 4 ft and bounces a few cm. I don't understand why we have some many people complaining about the back, even my phone survives two falls from 2 to 3 ft without case, no a little scratch :S , maybe I'm just lucky... Mmm I don't think so,
Like many other phones the phone doesn't survive face down fall
BTW love this phone. Although I have the little buzzing and rattle, not big deal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXR2iznbeg
C'mon, provide us a bit of insight into what's in the video. XDA isn't a link sharing website. Do you have an opinion? How does this compare to the half a dozen other drop tests that have been posted?
So..... The back survives a a 4 foot drop but yet we have people "supposedly" having theres crap by just setting it on a counter top...
It survived 2 out of 3, which was better than I had expected. The one that did it in (face down) was brutal; it landed flat on the face.
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Hehehe Sorry, post edited, maybe it's because my English is not really good
It faired pretty well except for that last drop
So... people who would actually use their phone on a day-to-day basis haven't even received their phones, but yet people like this guy is making YouTube video of drop tests? -_- as cool as it is, definitely not fair to the people who want the phone really badly but are unable to get proper stock of it.
I can't believe the back of the phone did better than the front.
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So... people who would actually use their phone on a day-to-day basis haven't even received their phones, but yet people like this guy is making YouTube video of drop tests? -_- as cool as it is, definitely not fair to the people who want the phone really badly but are unable to get proper stock of it.
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How's it not fair? One is free to do what they want to their own devices.
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Is very surprised to see the n4 survive the corner n back drop.
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How's it not fair? One is free to do what they want to their own devices.
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It's called karma especially for the people who buy N4s when they become available for sale just to sell it again on eBay to maximize their profits.
You would say the same exact thing if you didn't have a N4. I personally have one but I'm not selfish like some people here and put myself in OTHER people's shoes as the General forum of N4 is filled with SHIPPING Threads rather than the actual phone experience itself hands on.
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It's called karma especially for the people who buy N4s when they become available for sale just to sell it again on eBay to maximize their profits.
You would say the same exact thing if you didn't have a N4. I personally have one but I'm not selfish like some people here and put myself in OTHER people's shoes as the General forum of N4 is filled with SHIPPING Threads rather than the actual phone experience itself hands on.
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Nah, I don't get jealous over phones.
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Nah, I don't get jealous over phones.
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Jealous? I don't think it's necessary a sense of jealousy. It's more of a problem with Google's inventory and people aren't getting what they wanted to give as a present, or whatever it may be as N7, N10 is having inventory problems as well. I'm done arguing about this though, I can tell that you're already an arrogant person and just don't get what I was saying. Again, I already have one but many people do not due to inventory problems.
Good day sir.
Now you're personally attacking me? You're assuming a lot. Karma. I look at out this way. A drop test gives one an idea of what kind of protection one may need. More like taking one for the team, IMO.
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He can destroy 10 for all I care. His phones to use or wreck.
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Mine slide off of my desk once and I almost shrieked. Fortunately it survived without a scratch.
I wanna see the drop test with Official bumper
I broke mine on the first drop. Slipped off the table during dinner last night, bunch of cracks in the bottom left corner on the back, and front half has one long crack that has made half the touchscreen useless. Sucks. So disappointed, gone back to Galaxy Nexus. I don't have the heart to buy a new one if it's going to break this easily. I can't even count how many times I dropped my Galaxy Nexus with no issue.
Man, that's harsh.
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I wanna see the drop test with Official bumper
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Lol me to, bumper doesn't feel like it would help that much.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
If everyone bought Nexus devices because of the prompt updates, it would kick other manufacturers into investing in larger software development teams to deliver updates ontime.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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As long as there is a choice I will always go for a Nexus, can't be bothered with manufacturers' customisations and carrier restrictions. Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
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If profits at Google fall at some point they may take resources away from the hardware side and concentrate on the software side. Wouldn't like to see that happen but can't be discounted.
If, as seems likely, the Nexus 7 becomes the top-selling Android tablet other manufacturers may decide to withdraw from the sector as they can't compete against a company using consumable sales profits in the Play Store to effectively subsidise their manufacturing costs. Alternatively there could be some form of unfair competition or monopoly complaint. Hope not but wouldn't rule it out.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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seriously.. you really make me envy.. i hope i could have it soon enough..
That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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Same here I'll never get another android phone besides the next nexus... I bought a Galaxy Note and it took Samsung almost 5months to get ICS which to me is still buggy as hell. I'm Glad I kept my Galaxy
Nexus... I took my gnex out of the box just because of jelly bean, the thing is like a brand new phone! So I had no choice to get the matching tablet!
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I feel the same way now. I'd like to get one that works with my VZW account but I don't trust buying one through VZW.
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That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
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Amen to that brotha. I'm loving the nexus7 stock android, and the next phone will be a Gnex.
this kind of posts kinda urges me to buy m7 immediately even more..
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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So... You are gonna use a 7 inch device as a phone? Kinda extreme
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My first super phone was the Atrix 4g waited forever for gingerbread.... was super extra pissed ! Flushed it down the toilet purchased a gsm nexus now life is goooooooooood!
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Seriously, thank you for this.
I was worried when I first came on the Nexus sub-forum, that there was a lot of negativity and issues. And granted there are bad experiences with every first run of any product.... but this is the first phone/media device purchase that I have actually been fairly content with it out of the box. My phone (Samsung Vibrant) I have gotten tired the last few months of flashing it weekly since I bought it.
Of course, I am bound to run into things, but I felt the same way clankfu
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Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Housry! Sup buddy? Haven't seen you since the Evo 3D days (or cm7 nightmares). I had the Verizon Nexus and loved the hell out of it. I have the GSIII now and also love it. Got my N7 yesterday and love that too lol.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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I don't see why HTC couldn't do that with their HTC Sense. It's essentially a launcher.
So I got my phone yesterday evening at 7pm from the UPS driver and of course it was the latest I had ever received a package!
Anyways, all I have to say is that getting a phone from the "second wave" seems to have been a great thing because I have had ZERO issues at all so far. Right away I looked over the entire phone for any cosmetic defects that have been reported and nothing was found wrong. The screen IMO is amazing and colors look perfect as well. There is NO yellow tint whatsoever and I even had my GF look at it to make sure. Battery is already better than my former Blaze 4G and that's saying something. This phone is definitely a fresh start from the touchwiz ui and made me realize that was really kiddish looking like IOS IMO. The camera takes pictures just fine although I am still trying to figure out all the features on it. The phone got pretty warm on initial start up when all of my apps were being installed from the Play store but after that, normal browsing and such did not make it any warmer than anything i have felt before in other phones. Finally, there is NO buzzing in my earpiece at all, and yes my hearing is good, this again I had my GF check too so I knew I was not crazy.
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
That's great to hear. I also ordered a N4 from the second batch and I can't wait for it to be here. Nice review
Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
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Grats on getting your phone; you're gonna love it.
I got mine a week after the initial ordering and my phone is perfect, so I don't know about any second waves or anything like that. There are always going to be phones with manufacturing-related defects; that's why they do exchanges. Don't get hung up on a few people who think their phones are s**t.
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Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
I have my nexus 4 from the first wave ( received it on the 19th) and never got any issues with it.
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Yep, loving mine.
Coming from a s2 and then a s3 I had for 2 weeks.. The things I thought would bother me really don't.
I rooted to restor backups and I love vanilla Android, probably won't even do any rom'ing
I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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Second wave myself. No issues. I love this phone. Just thinking of how to customize the first page. I can't make it look too much like my old phone.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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lol
I got my 2 Nexus 4's yesterday. The one seems fine, but I have an issue with the 2nd one. During calls, the earpiece buzzes while making sounds. The earpiece does not make any sounds when it is off like a lot of people seem to report. This is strictly a problem during calls and it sounds like the speaker is blown. It does rattle a bit when I'm putting it on a table or whatnot, but that doesn't really bother me.
Called support yesterday, and they were supposed to send me an e-mail with instructions on sending this one back and getting a replacement, but haven't actually received anything from them.
I seem to have some kind of knack for getting bad phones from Google. I had ordered 2 Galaxy Nexus phones when they came out, and ended up getting a replacement for one of the phones because there was dust in the camera. The replacement had the wifi go out, so I had to get that one replaced. The third one actually had a similar buzzing issue with the earpiece but it wasn't as bad, and I was tired of dealing with them at that point, so I lived with it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Why reply if you don't care? Not sure of what your point is..
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Just speaking a link?
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He's correcting the man's grammar.
Watch the video.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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I get what you are saying, but he is still literally correct.
I'm sure he could care less, otherwise he wouldn't have an N4. If he cared less:
- he could have not bought the phone
- he could leave it at a bus stop and go on living
- etc. etc.
Now, I'm sure he could care a hell of a lot MORE about it, taking to the internet in fits of rage, driving to Mountain View and knocking on the front door and such. But still, he could also care less.
Just saying.
Received mine yesterday and it has zero flaw. I don't take the mini rattle as one as it comes from the camera (autofocus?) and all the phones I tested since learning that on this forum have it.
For those of you wondering if the bumper is worth 20 euros, it's definitely well made, perfectly fits the look of the phone and prevents the back from direct contact but... well, the phone has a perfect size for my hand and the bumper adds about 0.5 - 0.7 cm in width which makes it awkward to hold. I find myself removing it often when using my phone.
My 2 cents.
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Does your phone have touch sensitive issue?
Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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I don't have any issues whatsoever from the 1st batch. The more you try to look for something to be wrong the higher the chance that something unnoticeable will begin to irritate you lol.
Zero issues with the first batch. But if these phones get better with each batch, imagine the 50th batch!
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Check out this bs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHIXtw34wK4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I love the 90s. Good times.
E The Magnificent said:
Check out this bs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHIXtw34wK4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I love the 90s. Good times.
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Pathetic reasons
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eyecon82 said:
Pathetic reasons
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Totally
I love the 90s. Good times.
Did you realize he said there would be another video the other way around, or were you more like omg he's dissing the gs4 I'm not listening at all
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H4rryTipp3r said:
Did you realize he said there would be another video the other way around, or were you more like omg he's dissing the gs4 I'm not listening at all
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That just means he would be contradicting himself and taking back everything he said.
I love the 90s. Good times.
Who is this guy on the video anyways?
We (& all of the other S4 users on different carriers) should flip this guy off using our Cinema photo, mash them all together & upload it. :teamwork.gif:
HTC doesn't have enough money to stop the ice cream truck let alone pay anyone off.
Hopefully they will come back as Samsung does best when it has strong competition.
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That just means he would be contradicting himself and taking back everything he said.
I love the 90s. Good times.
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Exactly so why slam the S4 just to come back and slam the HTC One and make the S4 godlike.
Another vid review from a bull****ter.
Wizard220 said:
Exactly so why slam the S4 just to come back and slam the HTC One and make the S4 godlike.
Another vid review from a bull****ter.
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This I why I only listen to Qbking77 and flossycarter two of the best reviewers around
I love the 90s. Good times.
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That just means he would be contradicting himself and taking back everything he said.
I love the 90s. Good times.
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No, actually it just means that the One has some advantages and the S4 has some advantages. Like EVERY SINGLE other thing in life, phones are a study in compromise. That's why some things are a better fit for some situations. A Honda is going to have better fuel economy and cost less than a Ferrari. A Ferrari is faster. Is that contradicting?
That's what the PhoneBuff videos are known for. They do paired videos on the advantages of one, and then the other. They did 50 reasons for the S3 vs the iPhone 5.
Not totally sure why that would get anyone's panties all up in a bunch.
Idk if the htc one is better then the s4. My fiance has the S4 and its really nice. I havent toyed with the one yet. I will how ever give credit to HTC. Samsung has just been dominating the phone market the last 2 years it seems like and the S3 was the killer. It seems like HTC took some time and put alot of effort into delivering a product that alot of people enjoy. Just look at this time last year. The evo lte was obsolete to the S3. I think whether your a saamsung fan or htc fan you should be happy that HTC stepped there game up. We want competition within these companies.
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yea so none of the touch screen works people are tellin me it's gonna be 200 to fix so i might just buy a new one of wait till the google i/o just to see whats up . . it didn't fall too hard either though and i had a ringth slim case on it guess those don't really help all that much. using a backup iphone 3gs i.can't.live.like.this.
Oh man that sucks bro... I think slim plastic cases like that won't do anything if dropped... You needed some rubber.
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yea so none of the touch screen works people are tellin me it's gonna be 200 to fix so i might just buy a new one of wait till the google i/o just to see whats up . . it didn't fall too hard either though and i had a ringth slim case on it guess those don't really help all that much. using a backup iphone 3gs i.can't.live.like.this.
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I've been using the same case as you since December, and have indeed dropped the phone quite a few times. Fortunately, my screen survived. You got really unlucky there.
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yea so none of the touch screen works people are tellin me it's gonna be 200 to fix so i might just buy a new one of wait till the google i/o just to see whats up . . it didn't fall too hard either though and i had a ringth slim case on it guess those don't really help all that much. using a backup iphone 3gs i.can't.live.like.this.
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LCD cracking is pure luck. It all depends on which part took the impact. Your phone will most likely survive if it falls flat on a flat surface. If the corner hits, it'll most likely break.
I have seen phones survive 6ft drop and also seen broken phones from a 1ft drop.
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It costs about $100 to replace the screen yourself, but its quite easy
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It costs about $100 to replace the screen yourself, but its quite easy
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yea i guess ill probably just end up doing that.
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yea i guess ill probably just end up doing that.
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First open it up and disconnect-reconect the digitizer plug from the main board. Maybe it just moved a little after the crash.
But yeah, even if it works you still have cracked screen so you will still have to fix it anytime soon.
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So I just got my phone back from LG after paying 140 and there's a yellow blob on the middle of the screen °facepalm° should I hit up Google for an RMA or call LG again I just don't wanna wait another 2 weeks man
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Those plastic slim cases will not protect your phone, at all. At most, they provide a grip to your phone and prevent scratches from everyday usage.
I would advise on getting a TPU case in the future.
icecicle said:
yea so none of the touch screen works people are tellin me it's gonna be 200 to fix so i might just buy a new one of wait till the google i/o just to see whats up . . it didn't fall too hard either though and i had a ringth slim case on it guess those don't really help all that much. using a backup iphone 3gs i.can't.live.like.this.
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I broke mine like that, sent it to LG repair shop in Texas (have to contact them and get a return code first) and they ended up just giving me a replacement unit. Was nice cuz I ended up with a more solid phone, has the little nubs and all (it's a rev 10 though). Pretty much like getting a brand new phone and I was only charged like $160. Just make sure to back up your pics and stuff to your PC prior to sending it in, in case you get a new phone. I was quite happy.
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I broke mine like that, sent it to LG repair shop in Texas (have to contact them and get a return code first) and they ended up just giving me a replacement unit. Was nice cuz I ended up with a more solid phone, has the little nubs and all (it's a rev 10 though). Pretty much like getting a brand new phone and I was only charged like $160. Just make sure to back up your pics and stuff to your PC prior to sending it in, in case you get a new phone. I was quite happy.
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Yea I paid 140 and they sent me a replacement phone as well its just this replacement phone has a yellow tint blob in the middle of the screen now and I don't know the best way to go about it
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Dropped mine on concrete from my waist. But apparently the ditztronic case provides extremely good protection.
Hope you can get your replacement soon!
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And as always, please search for existing threads related to your topic for discusion.
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I know the note 7 is so hot its literally exploding off the shelves but does anyone think it's worth it for me to get my hands on one and wait for an aftermarket replacement battery to do the swap myself? Are the carriers going to block note 7s from their network? I personally want one at this point simply for the fact most if not all will be gone soon.
Not sure if this guy is trolling hard or simply been living under rock for the past week.
There won't be any after market batteries. Get a grip.
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I still have my first Note 7. Other than the annoying messages multiple times a day. I have no complaints. I mentioned in another thread that the T mobile rep said the phones are only getting hot when you use a different charger than what came with the device. I had a guy call me out on it, saying it was a bunch of B'S. Well here I am still using my Note and not a single issue with it. So you decide.
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But will there be any updates for the note 7?
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Xperia U Lover said:
But will there be any updates for the note 7?
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Since it's a discontinued phone that Samsung's lawyers would desperately like out of your hands I'd say the odds are as good as American electing an honest person as president in November. The only update I think we'll see is one that disables the phone.
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Since it's a discontinued phone that Samsung's lawyers would desperately like out of your hands I'd say the odds are as good as American electing an honest person as president in November. The only update I think we'll see is one that disables the phone.
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You, lol!!! They'll both be in here or on Twitter to defend their honor, lol!!!