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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
If everyone bought Nexus devices because of the prompt updates, it would kick other manufacturers into investing in larger software development teams to deliver updates ontime.
clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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As long as there is a choice I will always go for a Nexus, can't be bothered with manufacturers' customisations and carrier restrictions. Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
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If profits at Google fall at some point they may take resources away from the hardware side and concentrate on the software side. Wouldn't like to see that happen but can't be discounted.
If, as seems likely, the Nexus 7 becomes the top-selling Android tablet other manufacturers may decide to withdraw from the sector as they can't compete against a company using consumable sales profits in the Play Store to effectively subsidise their manufacturing costs. Alternatively there could be some form of unfair competition or monopoly complaint. Hope not but wouldn't rule it out.
clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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seriously.. you really make me envy.. i hope i could have it soon enough..
That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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Same here I'll never get another android phone besides the next nexus... I bought a Galaxy Note and it took Samsung almost 5months to get ICS which to me is still buggy as hell. I'm Glad I kept my Galaxy
Nexus... I took my gnex out of the box just because of jelly bean, the thing is like a brand new phone! So I had no choice to get the matching tablet!
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I feel the same way now. I'd like to get one that works with my VZW account but I don't trust buying one through VZW.
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That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
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Amen to that brotha. I'm loving the nexus7 stock android, and the next phone will be a Gnex.
this kind of posts kinda urges me to buy m7 immediately even more..
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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So... You are gonna use a 7 inch device as a phone? Kinda extreme
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My first super phone was the Atrix 4g waited forever for gingerbread.... was super extra pissed ! Flushed it down the toilet purchased a gsm nexus now life is goooooooooood!
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clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Seriously, thank you for this.
I was worried when I first came on the Nexus sub-forum, that there was a lot of negativity and issues. And granted there are bad experiences with every first run of any product.... but this is the first phone/media device purchase that I have actually been fairly content with it out of the box. My phone (Samsung Vibrant) I have gotten tired the last few months of flashing it weekly since I bought it.
Of course, I am bound to run into things, but I felt the same way clankfu
housry23 said:
Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Housry! Sup buddy? Haven't seen you since the Evo 3D days (or cm7 nightmares). I had the Verizon Nexus and loved the hell out of it. I have the GSIII now and also love it. Got my N7 yesterday and love that too lol.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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I don't see why HTC couldn't do that with their HTC Sense. It's essentially a launcher.
In this drop test the phone survives 2 falls from 4 ft and bounces a few cm. I don't understand why we have some many people complaining about the back, even my phone survives two falls from 2 to 3 ft without case, no a little scratch :S , maybe I'm just lucky... Mmm I don't think so,
Like many other phones the phone doesn't survive face down fall
BTW love this phone. Although I have the little buzzing and rattle, not big deal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXR2iznbeg
C'mon, provide us a bit of insight into what's in the video. XDA isn't a link sharing website. Do you have an opinion? How does this compare to the half a dozen other drop tests that have been posted?
So..... The back survives a a 4 foot drop but yet we have people "supposedly" having theres crap by just setting it on a counter top...
It survived 2 out of 3, which was better than I had expected. The one that did it in (face down) was brutal; it landed flat on the face.
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Hehehe Sorry, post edited, maybe it's because my English is not really good
It faired pretty well except for that last drop
So... people who would actually use their phone on a day-to-day basis haven't even received their phones, but yet people like this guy is making YouTube video of drop tests? -_- as cool as it is, definitely not fair to the people who want the phone really badly but are unable to get proper stock of it.
I can't believe the back of the phone did better than the front.
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So... people who would actually use their phone on a day-to-day basis haven't even received their phones, but yet people like this guy is making YouTube video of drop tests? -_- as cool as it is, definitely not fair to the people who want the phone really badly but are unable to get proper stock of it.
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How's it not fair? One is free to do what they want to their own devices.
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Is very surprised to see the n4 survive the corner n back drop.
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How's it not fair? One is free to do what they want to their own devices.
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It's called karma especially for the people who buy N4s when they become available for sale just to sell it again on eBay to maximize their profits.
You would say the same exact thing if you didn't have a N4. I personally have one but I'm not selfish like some people here and put myself in OTHER people's shoes as the General forum of N4 is filled with SHIPPING Threads rather than the actual phone experience itself hands on.
zephiK said:
It's called karma especially for the people who buy N4s when they become available for sale just to sell it again on eBay to maximize their profits.
You would say the same exact thing if you didn't have a N4. I personally have one but I'm not selfish like some people here and put myself in OTHER people's shoes as the General forum of N4 is filled with SHIPPING Threads rather than the actual phone experience itself hands on.
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Nah, I don't get jealous over phones.
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Nah, I don't get jealous over phones.
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Jealous? I don't think it's necessary a sense of jealousy. It's more of a problem with Google's inventory and people aren't getting what they wanted to give as a present, or whatever it may be as N7, N10 is having inventory problems as well. I'm done arguing about this though, I can tell that you're already an arrogant person and just don't get what I was saying. Again, I already have one but many people do not due to inventory problems.
Good day sir.
Now you're personally attacking me? You're assuming a lot. Karma. I look at out this way. A drop test gives one an idea of what kind of protection one may need. More like taking one for the team, IMO.
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He can destroy 10 for all I care. His phones to use or wreck.
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Mine slide off of my desk once and I almost shrieked. Fortunately it survived without a scratch.
I wanna see the drop test with Official bumper
I broke mine on the first drop. Slipped off the table during dinner last night, bunch of cracks in the bottom left corner on the back, and front half has one long crack that has made half the touchscreen useless. Sucks. So disappointed, gone back to Galaxy Nexus. I don't have the heart to buy a new one if it's going to break this easily. I can't even count how many times I dropped my Galaxy Nexus with no issue.
Man, that's harsh.
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Emama said:
I wanna see the drop test with Official bumper
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Lol me to, bumper doesn't feel like it would help that much.
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So, I ordered my Nexus 4 like many others did the day they became available again recently and coudn't wait for it to get here. Immediately, out of the box, I was in love with the sleek design of my new handset. The next day, my new phone was the focus of many others attention and I almost felt like a spokesman for the phone, pitching it to everyone who raised a question about it. I was in complete ire.
Unfortunately, 18 hours after having the device and having above a 50% charge, my Nexus 4 powered itself off and became a brick. I panicked immediately and called the phone number given on the site and in the attached documentation. I had to call several times and was disconnected repeatedly. I spokke to attendants a couple times and they told me that if I got disconnected again, they could not call me back. Eventually, an hour later or so, I was able to talk to someone in support who had me try a few things to get the phone into recovery. None of this worked. This is when things went from bad to worse.
I was told that I would be transferred over to product return/replacement and of course was disconnected again. I tried again....and again.
I now made it through to product replacement was told that they would email me out the shipping label to return the phone back and that they would have to charge my account for the replacement in the meantime!!! So, Google basically wants me to fork out TWICE the money, so that I can wait to have them ship out another one and they won't refund my account until they inspect the original.
I'm not sure about how many of you can afford this, but I can't. I had saved for this phone and I had already arranged to sell my old phone. Basically, I'm screwed....So, I at least ask how long it will take to ship the replacement. I'm told 2-3 weeks, even if I'm a replacement!
I spoke to another supervisor to verify this, and that was their policy. I opted for a return over a refund and am sure that I will never purchase anything from Google again.
I would not to if that happened to me, if you stay in the android camp I dont know many companies that give good customer support its a major down fall. I think this is why some people are buying from retail stores so they can just get it replaced.
Its a shame the nexus 4 is the best android phone out right now in terms of design and speed. I can't believe they treated you like that can you complain to some consumer watch dog? Maybe get a free phone out of it lol
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They place a hold on your account to make sure you send back the damaged phone. As far as it being 2-3 weeks, I rma'd my phone Thursday night and it already shipped 2 day air.
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I had issues with the charger port on my phone last week. I called Google and didn't have any problems talking to someone in replacements.
I called last Saturday, the phone shipped Tuesday and I had the replacement Thursday. They did do an authorization on my credit card to insure I did have the funds available, in case they find the damage to be my fault but the authorization has already disappeared.
Overall it wasn't a bad experience
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What else did you do the phone? I find it heard to believe that a phone will magically turn into a brick after 24 hours of use.
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What else did you do the phone? I find it heard to believe that a phone will magically turn into a brick after 24 hours of use.
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Though it is extremely odd, sometimes **** just happens.
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I would have them put it on a credit card rather than have a ~$400 hold on my checking account. That's just me though. ;O)
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If you used a credit card with the play store then they don't charge you for the replacement, it's only a hold on the funds which just means you have less available credit but no charge. I this this is a good compromise for both the customers and Google.
Your loss
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Your loss
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I agree, it was my loss. However, I'm no "noob" and am quite familiar with mobile technology. This was simply a case of a defective handset. I wish I had an experience with like some of you other responders have shared, however that was not the case for me. Yes, I will suffer some for not having a Nexus 4, but Google will suffer more with the loss of my business and the amount of times I will share my story.
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Your loss
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To the op.
Return for refund and save yourself a heap of grief.
The phone is definitely not the best out there.
And some of the kids on this forum leave alot to be desired.
You got a defective unit, it happens sometimes. They're replacing it, what's the problem exactly?
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xchasa said:
To the op.
Return for refund and save yourself a heap of grief.
The phone is definitely not the best out there.
And some of the kids on this forum leave alot to be desired.
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Somebody's bitter.
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ispeakmath said:
So, I ordered my Nexus 4 like many others did the day they became available again recently and coudn't wait for it to get here. Immediately, out of the box, I was in love with the sleek design of my new handset. The next day, my new phone was the focus of many others attention and I almost felt like a spokesman for the phone, pitching it to everyone who raised a question about it. I was in complete ire.
Unfortunately, 18 hours after having the device and having above a 50% charge, my Nexus 4 powered itself off and became a brick. I panicked immediately and called the phone number given on the site and in the attached documentation. I had to call several times and was disconnected repeatedly. I spokke to attendants a couple times and they told me that if I got disconnected again, they could not call me back. Eventually, an hour later or so, I was able to talk to someone in support who had me try a few things to get the phone into recovery. None of this worked. This is when things went from bad to worse.
I was told that I would be transferred over to product return/replacement and of course was disconnected again. I tried again....and again.
I now made it through to product replacement was told that they would email me out the shipping label to return the phone back and that they would have to charge my account for the replacement in the meantime!!! So, Google basically wants me to fork out TWICE the money, so that I can wait to have them ship out another one and they won't refund my account until they inspect the original.
I'm not sure about how many of you can afford this, but I can't. I had saved for this phone and I had already arranged to sell my old phone. Basically, I'm screwed....So, I at least ask how long it will take to ship the replacement. I'm told 2-3 weeks, even if I'm a replacement!
I spoke to another supervisor to verify this, and that was their policy. I opted for a return over a refund and am sure that I will never purchase anything from Google again.
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I had no trouble with RMA and their service. Dont worry they do RMA replacement really quick. They have reserved nexus 4 for warranty purposes.
ispeakmath said:
I agree, it was my loss. However, I'm no "noob" and am quite familiar with mobile technology. This was simply a case of a defective handset. I wish I had an experience with like some of you other responders have shared, however that was not the case for me. Yes, I will suffer some for not having a Nexus 4, but Google will suffer more with the loss of my business and the amount of times I will share my story.
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Yes Google will suffer more. Love the self-contradicting sentences.
1. You said it's simply a case of defective handset. Who ever judges a company by a case of defective handset? By that standard, you can buy nothing because every company ships defective unit, and that's why we have warranty/replacement policy.
2. If it's simply a case of defective handset, I'm sure all the "other people" whom you are going to tell your story to, will believe in you completely and avoid Google in the future.
3. If you are quite familiar with mobile technology, you'll know all manufacturers have defective unit, and if you are following Nexus 4 news, you KNOW how Google's advance-replacement works (charge your card and refund once received your defective unit), and how bad Nexus 4 back-order is/was.
4. If you are quite familiar with mobile technology, I'm surprised you never registered an account here at XDA. Is Nexus 4 your first smartphone? First Android? If that's the case, don't say you are quite familiar with mobile technology.
Thank you for this informative post. I'm sure we will all mourn Google's loss.
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Somebody's bitter.
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Haha. Yeah. It was a big night.
xchasa said:
Haha. Yeah. It was a big night.
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Don't let life get you down, bro. You don't want to end up like me
I'm really sorry you had a bad experience, OP. I count myself as one of the lucky ones who has had zero problems with their device. I hope it stays this way.
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arotalm effect
OP, what all did you do to the device? Was it unlocked/rooted only? Or were you using a custom ROM? I think providing that information would also help the community out, as it would give us a heads up on the potential risk(s) involved with a particular build. Also, I feel sad for your loss, I do not appreciate it when people aren't very supportive of their fellow Android users, I hope things work out well man.
Kind regards,
John
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I agree, it was my loss. However, I'm no "noob" and am quite familiar with mobile technology. This was simply a case of a defective handset. I wish I had an experience with like some of you other responders have shared, however that was not the case for me. Yes, I will suffer some for not having a Nexus 4, but Google will suffer more with the loss of my business and the amount of times I will share my story.
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What a **** move.
So, you purchased a unit and it turned out to be defective. They agreed to let you exchange it, but they needed to take a hold of $400 in your account in the meantime, so you won't do it?
So, instead of just complying, you're going to spread a bogus story that just shows your own ignorance whilst trying to make Google look like a bad business? Despicable. Absolutely despicable.
It is an advanced RMA, it's the best possible way to do an RMA IMO since there is no "turnaround" time however did you ask them if you could send your phone in first and once they receive it you can get a new one sent out? It'll take even longer but that is the way most companies do things...unfortunately.
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What else did you do the phone? I find it heard to believe that a phone will magically turn into a brick after 24 hours of use.
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Hardware can fail and it is more likely for it to happen in the first 24hrs than it is a year down the road, it sucks but this is far more believable to me than the "spontaneous back shattering" that some on this site are claiming.
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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musclehead84 said:
I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
Harfainx said:
And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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So I was in bestbuy today checking out a few cases and the galaxy gear in the new samsung section that they have and the samsung rep was telling me that we are getting kitkat in 2 to 3 months. I honestly dont know if this is true or not but I wanted to post and ask if anyone else has heard anything like that.
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1) Never listen to any BestBuy Employee
2) KitKat 4.4 has been confirmed for the i-9500 [maybe i9505 same time] with a January time frame.
Warboy said:
1) Never listen to any BestBuy Employee
2) KitKat 4.4 has been confirmed for the i-9500 [maybe i9505 same time] with a January time frame.
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Well, being the end of November, January is only just more than a month away
Probably february..Right now stock rooted mja with wifi fix. Everything good..
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Unconfirmed leaks on other sites have it pegged for carrier release in January. Plus time for them to add their BS and we're looking at late February at the earliest.
But don't get too excited about it. The devices that have received it are all missing various features. Some don't have the transparent navigation bar, nobody's getting the Experience Launcher, etc. Makes it sound more like an incremental update than anything groundbreaking.
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Expect a wait as always for updates, but you never really know an exact date this early on :/
Yea I would rather the update come at a later date and be packed with kitkat goodies rather than thrown together and not get the true kitkat experience
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mderuelle said:
Yea I would rather the update come at a later date and be packed with kitkat goodies rather than thrown together and not get the true kitkat experience
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You do realize it's not gonna be a "true KitKat experience" because we don't have a Nexus device, and Samsung will throw their "stuff" over pure vanilla Android (KitKat).
Joe0113 said:
You do realize it's not gonna be a "true KitKat experience" because we don't have a Nexus device, and Samsung will throw their "stuff" over pure vanilla Android (KitKat).
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This is what has me excited. Pure vanilla Android is ugly and devoid of features. Adding Samsung's features is what makes Android at this point. Looking at KiKat on a nexus has me patiently waiting for KitKat to drop on my S4 with all the Samsung additives. Thanks God for the additives.
And Samsung reps are not BestBuy employees. At least that's how I understand it. They do not work for BestBuy but Samsung.
eskomo said:
And Samsung reps are not BestBuy employees. At least that's how I understand it. They do not work for BestBuy but Samsung.
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That may be true. But the chances of them knowing their ass from a hole in the wall are still zero.
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I am a Low Voltage Technician and Merchandising Specialist (during downtimes from remodels) for Best Buy, came from Computers and Wireless/BBY Mobile. I use a cheat sheet, but I can tell my ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh, I've also never had a problem staying up to date on current device and technology offerings. Though I'm not sure of the correlation.
Samsung Specialists do, indeed, work for Samsung, they are not ours. Similar to Apple Solutions Consultants.
JD1zzle said:
I am a Low Voltage Technician and Merchandising Specialist (during downtimes from remodels) for Best Buy, came from Computers and Wireless/BBY Mobile. I use a cheat sheet, but I can tell my ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh, I've also never had a problem staying up to date on current device and technology offerings. Though I'm not sure of the correlation.
Samsung Specialists do, indeed, work for Samsung, they are not ours. Similar to Apple Solutions Consultants.
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An excellent comeback sir :good:
This is a good sign.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/5...oogle-playedition-android44-kitkat-update.htm
chadharrop said:
This is a good sign.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/5...oogle-playedition-android44-kitkat-update.htm
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Not really. GPe editions have nothing to do with carrier phones. Be nice if we could flash a GPe rom on our phones though.
frostedunit said:
That may be true. But the chances of them knowing their ass from a hole in the wall are still zero.
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I could say the same for 90% of the people on these forums. A hand full of people actually know how to use the phone and the rest just ride the "struggle bus"™ all day.
eskomo said:
I could say the same for 90% of the people on these forums. A hand full of people actually know how to use the phone and the rest just ride the "struggle bus"™ all day.
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True. But the vast majority of users here don't get paid to sell electronics. Too many Sprint, Samsung, Verizon, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc, etc "reps" don't know much about the products they sell.
Ever go to one of those places and know more about their products than they do? Most frustrating thing ever. If they don't know about their own products, how the heck are they going to know about OTA dates?
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frostedunit said:
Ever go to one of those places and know more about their products than they do? Most frustrating thing ever. If they don't know about their own products, how the heck are they going to know about OTA dates?
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It's more like, have you ever gone into one of those places and not known more than they do? I've yet to find any best buy or sprint store employee that knew more than me.
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Good on ya!
JD1zzle said:
I am a Low Voltage Technician and Merchandising Specialist (during downtimes from remodels) for Best Buy, came from Computers and Wireless/BBY Mobile. I use a cheat sheet, but I can tell my ass from a hole in the wall.
Oh, I've also never had a problem staying up to date on current device and technology offerings. Though I'm not sure of the correlation.
Samsung Specialists do, indeed, work for Samsung, they are not ours. Similar to Apple Solutions Consultants.
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Bravo!! Clearly you received the revised cheat sheet.
Do you have a link on how to root sprint version with 4.3 official ota
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kegar said:
Do you have a link on how to root sprint version with 4.3 official ota
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47100455
Reminder a little search will get you what you need..
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