So, I ordered my Nexus 4 like many others did the day they became available again recently and coudn't wait for it to get here. Immediately, out of the box, I was in love with the sleek design of my new handset. The next day, my new phone was the focus of many others attention and I almost felt like a spokesman for the phone, pitching it to everyone who raised a question about it. I was in complete ire.
Unfortunately, 18 hours after having the device and having above a 50% charge, my Nexus 4 powered itself off and became a brick. I panicked immediately and called the phone number given on the site and in the attached documentation. I had to call several times and was disconnected repeatedly. I spokke to attendants a couple times and they told me that if I got disconnected again, they could not call me back. Eventually, an hour later or so, I was able to talk to someone in support who had me try a few things to get the phone into recovery. None of this worked. This is when things went from bad to worse.
I was told that I would be transferred over to product return/replacement and of course was disconnected again. I tried again....and again.
I now made it through to product replacement was told that they would email me out the shipping label to return the phone back and that they would have to charge my account for the replacement in the meantime!!! So, Google basically wants me to fork out TWICE the money, so that I can wait to have them ship out another one and they won't refund my account until they inspect the original.
I'm not sure about how many of you can afford this, but I can't. I had saved for this phone and I had already arranged to sell my old phone. Basically, I'm screwed....So, I at least ask how long it will take to ship the replacement. I'm told 2-3 weeks, even if I'm a replacement!
I spoke to another supervisor to verify this, and that was their policy. I opted for a return over a refund and am sure that I will never purchase anything from Google again.
I would not to if that happened to me, if you stay in the android camp I dont know many companies that give good customer support its a major down fall. I think this is why some people are buying from retail stores so they can just get it replaced.
Its a shame the nexus 4 is the best android phone out right now in terms of design and speed. I can't believe they treated you like that can you complain to some consumer watch dog? Maybe get a free phone out of it lol
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They place a hold on your account to make sure you send back the damaged phone. As far as it being 2-3 weeks, I rma'd my phone Thursday night and it already shipped 2 day air.
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I had issues with the charger port on my phone last week. I called Google and didn't have any problems talking to someone in replacements.
I called last Saturday, the phone shipped Tuesday and I had the replacement Thursday. They did do an authorization on my credit card to insure I did have the funds available, in case they find the damage to be my fault but the authorization has already disappeared.
Overall it wasn't a bad experience
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What else did you do the phone? I find it heard to believe that a phone will magically turn into a brick after 24 hours of use.
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What else did you do the phone? I find it heard to believe that a phone will magically turn into a brick after 24 hours of use.
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Though it is extremely odd, sometimes **** just happens.
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I would have them put it on a credit card rather than have a ~$400 hold on my checking account. That's just me though. ;O)
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If you used a credit card with the play store then they don't charge you for the replacement, it's only a hold on the funds which just means you have less available credit but no charge. I this this is a good compromise for both the customers and Google.
Your loss
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Your loss
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I agree, it was my loss. However, I'm no "noob" and am quite familiar with mobile technology. This was simply a case of a defective handset. I wish I had an experience with like some of you other responders have shared, however that was not the case for me. Yes, I will suffer some for not having a Nexus 4, but Google will suffer more with the loss of my business and the amount of times I will share my story.
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Your loss
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To the op.
Return for refund and save yourself a heap of grief.
The phone is definitely not the best out there.
And some of the kids on this forum leave alot to be desired.
You got a defective unit, it happens sometimes. They're replacing it, what's the problem exactly?
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xchasa said:
To the op.
Return for refund and save yourself a heap of grief.
The phone is definitely not the best out there.
And some of the kids on this forum leave alot to be desired.
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Somebody's bitter.
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So, I ordered my Nexus 4 like many others did the day they became available again recently and coudn't wait for it to get here. Immediately, out of the box, I was in love with the sleek design of my new handset. The next day, my new phone was the focus of many others attention and I almost felt like a spokesman for the phone, pitching it to everyone who raised a question about it. I was in complete ire.
Unfortunately, 18 hours after having the device and having above a 50% charge, my Nexus 4 powered itself off and became a brick. I panicked immediately and called the phone number given on the site and in the attached documentation. I had to call several times and was disconnected repeatedly. I spokke to attendants a couple times and they told me that if I got disconnected again, they could not call me back. Eventually, an hour later or so, I was able to talk to someone in support who had me try a few things to get the phone into recovery. None of this worked. This is when things went from bad to worse.
I was told that I would be transferred over to product return/replacement and of course was disconnected again. I tried again....and again.
I now made it through to product replacement was told that they would email me out the shipping label to return the phone back and that they would have to charge my account for the replacement in the meantime!!! So, Google basically wants me to fork out TWICE the money, so that I can wait to have them ship out another one and they won't refund my account until they inspect the original.
I'm not sure about how many of you can afford this, but I can't. I had saved for this phone and I had already arranged to sell my old phone. Basically, I'm screwed....So, I at least ask how long it will take to ship the replacement. I'm told 2-3 weeks, even if I'm a replacement!
I spoke to another supervisor to verify this, and that was their policy. I opted for a return over a refund and am sure that I will never purchase anything from Google again.
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I had no trouble with RMA and their service. Dont worry they do RMA replacement really quick. They have reserved nexus 4 for warranty purposes.
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I agree, it was my loss. However, I'm no "noob" and am quite familiar with mobile technology. This was simply a case of a defective handset. I wish I had an experience with like some of you other responders have shared, however that was not the case for me. Yes, I will suffer some for not having a Nexus 4, but Google will suffer more with the loss of my business and the amount of times I will share my story.
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Yes Google will suffer more. Love the self-contradicting sentences.
1. You said it's simply a case of defective handset. Who ever judges a company by a case of defective handset? By that standard, you can buy nothing because every company ships defective unit, and that's why we have warranty/replacement policy.
2. If it's simply a case of defective handset, I'm sure all the "other people" whom you are going to tell your story to, will believe in you completely and avoid Google in the future.
3. If you are quite familiar with mobile technology, you'll know all manufacturers have defective unit, and if you are following Nexus 4 news, you KNOW how Google's advance-replacement works (charge your card and refund once received your defective unit), and how bad Nexus 4 back-order is/was.
4. If you are quite familiar with mobile technology, I'm surprised you never registered an account here at XDA. Is Nexus 4 your first smartphone? First Android? If that's the case, don't say you are quite familiar with mobile technology.
Thank you for this informative post. I'm sure we will all mourn Google's loss.
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Somebody's bitter.
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Haha. Yeah. It was a big night.
xchasa said:
Haha. Yeah. It was a big night.
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Don't let life get you down, bro. You don't want to end up like me
I'm really sorry you had a bad experience, OP. I count myself as one of the lucky ones who has had zero problems with their device. I hope it stays this way.
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arotalm effect
OP, what all did you do to the device? Was it unlocked/rooted only? Or were you using a custom ROM? I think providing that information would also help the community out, as it would give us a heads up on the potential risk(s) involved with a particular build. Also, I feel sad for your loss, I do not appreciate it when people aren't very supportive of their fellow Android users, I hope things work out well man.
Kind regards,
John
ispeakmath said:
I agree, it was my loss. However, I'm no "noob" and am quite familiar with mobile technology. This was simply a case of a defective handset. I wish I had an experience with like some of you other responders have shared, however that was not the case for me. Yes, I will suffer some for not having a Nexus 4, but Google will suffer more with the loss of my business and the amount of times I will share my story.
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What a **** move.
So, you purchased a unit and it turned out to be defective. They agreed to let you exchange it, but they needed to take a hold of $400 in your account in the meantime, so you won't do it?
So, instead of just complying, you're going to spread a bogus story that just shows your own ignorance whilst trying to make Google look like a bad business? Despicable. Absolutely despicable.
It is an advanced RMA, it's the best possible way to do an RMA IMO since there is no "turnaround" time however did you ask them if you could send your phone in first and once they receive it you can get a new one sent out? It'll take even longer but that is the way most companies do things...unfortunately.
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What else did you do the phone? I find it heard to believe that a phone will magically turn into a brick after 24 hours of use.
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Hardware can fail and it is more likely for it to happen in the first 24hrs than it is a year down the road, it sucks but this is far more believable to me than the "spontaneous back shattering" that some on this site are claiming.
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I have to say, that's one of the things I like about having an actual store to go to and deal with customer service face to face.
There's no way for them to put you on hold for 45mins to an hour, there's no waiting for the call or email that never comes, just to call back and find out there is no record of your complaint or call.
So I called my local Gamestop, the same girl that sold me my N7 was on shift. I asked her if she had any in stock for an exchange, she said "no, but let me pull it up in the computer". She tells me of 3 stores that have some in stock and asks if I need their number or address...
Since the next store was like 5 blocks away, I just drove there. They only had 1. I walk in and the sale person says "hey, hum, those aren't supposed to be sold yet, I don't think I can do the exchange until the SD of 8/7" (lol). He calls his manager, she didn't answer. He called another one on his cell, and that one told him, if I have my receipt and product, there was no problem doing the exchange.
He asks me what's wrong with it, I tell him I've randomly had a black line flash 3 times in the last week~. And although I was reluctant to exchange it after reading some of the stories behind other's defective units, as mine's was in top shape. He says yeah but if you can get a new one free, why not right? I said, yeap you're right.
So 5 mins later I walk out with my new exchange.
Now I am afraid to open and inspect it.. Heart's beating fast, I think I am gonna faint.. someone call 911..
Yeah, I really don't want to find out this one's defective.. I really, really enjoy this tablet. :silly:
-CC
P.S. Anyone know if you get the $25 credit again when registering a new unit on the same account?
EDIT: 23,618 units between serial numbers on my two units
OBSERVATIONS: This unit's back is darker than my previous one. The power and volume buttons feel more clicky, plasticy and tend to stick out more especially on the bottom. I am guessing different materials sources.
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P.S. Anyone know if you get the $25 credit again when registering a new unit on the same account?
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Why would you get another $25 added to your account? There is/was a loophole where you could, but on new accounts with a different credit card on file I believe. Don't be surprised if Google closed it by now.
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nikon120 said:
Why would you get another $25 added to your account? There is/was a loophole where you could, but on new accounts with a different credit card on file I believe. Don't be surprised if Google closed it by now.
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So then if I active it on another account it would get the credit, but not on the same one, if I have previously already done so?
I think the loophole you mention is where you could factory reset to get your credit in case you hadn't the first time around, correct? That's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about a new sealed never been registered unit.
I went to my store about a defective exchange, they only had 1 in store and it was on reserve so the guy called around then said he'd email the supplier. When it comes in they'll call me and I can exchange it out.
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So 5 mins later I walk out with my new exchange.
Now I am afraid to open and inspect it.. Heart's beating fast, I think I am gonna faint.. someone call 911..
Yeah, I really don't want to find out this one's defective.. I really, really enjoy this tablet. :silly:
-CC
P.S. Anyone know if you get the $25 credit again when registering a new unit on the same account?
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OK enough drumroll... WHAT'S THE VERDICT???? Worse? Same? Better??
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OK enough drumroll... WHAT'S THE VERDICT???? Worse? Same? Better??
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Just got a chance to sit with it. Initial outlook looks good, set up account, loaded up some apps. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, now applying updates. Sure wrong order, but I'm just getting her done..
Which root method you using? Toolkit v1.5.2? Glad to hear this one's HW is better. Praying mine is legit too! Should be here ~Monday..
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Which root method you using? Toolkit v1.5.2? Glad to hear this one's HW is better. Praying mine is legit too! Should be here ~Monday..
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Originally yes, on this unit I did it manually, but basically the same exact thing the toolkit does, as it just does it for you via a script.
Honestly though, my first unit was perfect. I am not sure it was attributed to hardware, but more towards software, as it only seemed to be happening while in chrome and it might not have been google's or asus's fault. I didn't want to find out after it was too late to get an exchange.
I hear ya clockcycle.. I too have a love/hate relationship with Android... I typically love the HW and need to fix the SW.. But in the end, I'm always VERY happy...
Follow up on replacement unit. Seems a bit slower to sense/react to rotating and touch requires more pressure, less sensitive.
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Funny. I bought my tablet at a GameStop and since then I have been to 5 more stores between Houston and Dallas and the only store that agreed to exchange my N7 didn't because I got to Waxahachie 20 mins after they closed. (My fault obv.)
One store refused to even though they had one in stock claiming only "That's a tablet. We can't do that. You have to contact the manufacturer."
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eawooten said:
Funny. I bought my tablet at a GameStop and since then I have been to 5 more stores between Houston and Dallas and the only store that agreed to exchange my N7 didn't because I got to Waxahachie 20 mins after they closed. (My fault obv.)
One store refused to even though they had one in stock claiming only "That's a tablet. We can't do that. You have to contact the manufacturer."
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They tried that as an option on me, I told them the manufacturer told me to deal with the place of purchase according to their policy and until that option is exhausted to resort to dealing with Google/ASUS warranty..
Some times some employees take returns personally, just get another rep on the phone or go in the store, FIRM but respectfully..
I ended up having to exchange this replacement as well, but really nothing wrong with the first one, 2nd one they were willing to exchange. 3rd one is just a "perfect" as the 1st and 2nd were... YMMV
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Follow up on replacement unit. Seems a bit slower to sense/react to rotating and touch requires more pressure, less sensitive.
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It really shouldn't be that different than your old unit. That's strange that touch would require more pressure.
I went back and for a replacement at the store I missed in my earlier post. It was still there a couple o days later.
Now, I'm experiencing a very slight screen lift that I could probably lay ignore, and flicker that is a reliable semi-hourly infuriation.
I think I'm going to have to exchange this for a third unit once the good serials start flowing steady.
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It really shouldn't be that different than your old unit. That's strange that touch would require more pressure.
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Unless the replacement unit was assembled in another plant and or used materials from another source. Happens often. My 3rd unit acts differently as well. It's also less sensitive. It didn't want to apply the updates, once it "did", the about still claimed I was on the original and when I checked for an update would tell me I was up to date. After applying the screen protector, this unit also did not respond to touches at all (as others have reported with their units) but both my previous units were responsive with 1-2 hour(s) of drying. Which leads me to believe touch screen was a different brand from another source, or sensitivity settings are different. Who knows..
-CC
P.S. It's ok, it works..
You are making me all nervous now, I hope mine is the right amount sensitive when it shows up tomorrow(hopefully). I didn't know they used different materials on a line of devices. Interesting.
I went to a job site (a car dealership) and left it in the drivers seat. It was raining and I'm guessing that with my tools and boxes, that I forgot to lock it with the remote or it did not lock. I didn't notice it missing until I went to my second job and went to hide it (which I normally do). I didn't hide it at the dealership because I was only planning on being there 20 minutes that turned into 2 hours.
I looked everywhere, being in denial, but I distinctly remember putting it in my car because it was raining and I had to conceal it while I ran out to my car.
Kinda sucks. Not only because I'll have to buy another one (I just bought one from Walmart so I can exchange it when the 32gb comes out), but also because I had a $20 case on it and an SGP Matte SP. I blame the iPad Mini. Thats probably what they thought it was!
I know there are plenty of threads about Anti-theft stuff but I'm kinda in a rush to push something to it from the play store. Ceribus or something rings a bell. Any suggestions?
I just installed Cerebus but I don't think it'll work without prior setup. I downloaded Plan B but I'm not sure it'll work either because it mentions it will only try to locate within the first 10 minutes.
Unfortunately I don't think there's anything that will provide any security without prior setup. Everything I've seen needs to be configured.
Lookout plan b... its on the market. You can push it to your device from the market website
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Yea I pushed Plan B. It went missing some time between 3:30pm and 5:30pm. I noticed it gone about 6pm. After driving back to my office to check my desk, back home, walmart, and home, it is now 11pm.
If I'd stolen a device, it would have been factory defaulted the instance I had a second to do it.
I'm in pretty good with the staff at the Dealership. My gf also works for the same group (different property though). She said they have security cameras all over. I'll get them to look at the tapes and see who it was.
Feel sorry about your loss. I don't think any security app help it, it's useless IMO. If the thief is smart enough, he/she will disable gps and wifi. So there is nothing you can do about it.
First thing i did on mine was installing cerberus. You can never be sure.
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Fortunately a lot of idiots aren't bright enough to wipe/reset the device. Just ask that idiot Horizon Air flight attendant
http://www.padgadget.com/2012/09/24...ks-travelers-stolen-ipad-to-flight-attendant/
Best of luck to you.
Keep us posted
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Jafmf95 said:
Fortunately a lot of idiots aren't bright enough to wipe/reset the device. Just ask that idiot Horizon Air flight attendant
http://www.padgadget.com/2012/09/24...ks-travelers-stolen-ipad-to-flight-attendant/
Best of luck to you.
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Not to mention that if you unlock and root your device you can install Cerberus as a system app so even if they do a factory reset Cerberus is still installed and active so you can track it. In this case only the thief smart enough to actually flash it with a new ROM will be free and clear. I don't remember how much it cost...I think like $1-2 was it, so even if it only gives you a 10% change of recovery...isn't that worth a couple bucks?
Dang. I know exactly how you feel. Hang in there; it may yet re-surface. I realize the almost hopeless optimism in saying that, but I`ve had my faith in humanity restored several times when losing stuff in the past. Let us know what happens! ps: Make Cerberus the first app you install with the new tab (or the old one, if/when it`s returned). good luck!
I talked to the big guy at the dealership and he told me they have security cameras there, so Monday they are going to look at them. Should be easy considering I was there for work and have my exact time there down to 2 hours.
Although I'm not sure what knowing who did it would do for me unless it was an employee... which they could fire them... but it was probably a hobo or a customer. Perhaps then one of the sales guys may know of them and hopefully has their address or something.
I haven't had any emails from those security apps that I tried...
I was thinking after I bought my new one that no only am I out the tablet but the $20 case and $20 SGP SP. So almost $300.
My mother-in-law suggested to claim it on my homeowners insurance because I had a tree fall on my home and I already paid my deductible for the year (which might be per incident). I have yet to call them yet. Probably do that Monday too.
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There isnt a option to Google lock the n7 ?(as last resort)
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Not sure if its related but look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33357157
Must be an incredible coincidence if that isn't yours (same place, both recent, etc).
superste2201 said:
Not sure if its related but look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33357157
Must be an incredible coincidence if that isn't yours (same place, both recent, etc).
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*face palm*
superste2201 said:
Not sure if its related but look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33357157
Must be an incredible coincidence if that isn't yours (same place, both recent, etc).
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The guy's taking the piss. Besides, i believe they're on opposite sides of the Atlantic.
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Not to mention that if you unlock and root your device you can install Cerberus as a system app so even if they do a factory reset Cerberus is still installed and active so you can track it. In this case only the thief smart enough to actually flash it with a new ROM will be free and clear. I don't remember how much it cost...I think like $1-2 was it, so even if it only gives you a 10% change of recovery...isn't that worth a couple bucks?
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About 3 euro actually.
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Yea I dunno. Sounds exactly like my situation. Wtf. Pretty ballsy to come here and openly say you stole it.
He says he's joking but what kind of joke has that many details in coincidence?! Dealership, same day, unlocked car, laying there in the seat, my tools.
Well the ****s on camera mofo! Its a car dealership and we're going through the cameras Monday and getting the police involved.
Dude should do the right thing and return it.
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About 3 euro actually.
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I looked up my receipt... cost me $1.06 US dollars...
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The only way he was joking is if he was deliberately poking fun at me... which is pretty sick.
I sent the mod and him a PM.
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Please do keep us informed on this, I would love to know how this goes for you. Best of luck. =)
Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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will they charge him restocking fee as mentioned in google play store under refunds?
send me the flashing red one plz
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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If they had a higher price I wouldn't of had to upgrade!
Dang it Google!
I will probably do an RMA since the phone is awesome...when it works.
Where can I find the number to call Google?
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
So did you get a replacement ?
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
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Hmm that's weird. Got mine 3 days after calling called Monday received it Thursday
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phositadc said:
Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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phositadc said:
Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Not sure why you think that, but OK.
ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course quality control affects price. QC can be very labor intensive($$$), from just auditing the boards and components at various levels of production, to scrap (throwing away defective product $$$) or rework (labor intensive $$$) of product with defects. I speak from experience here. No doubt QC suffered in order to offer the Nexus 4 at this price. Of course, it probably didn't suffer as much as it might have from other manufactures, as Google does not have to make money on the device itself as they can rake in the money from the Play store.
I mean, I love that I am able to purchase such a high end device for $299/349, but I think we really have to worry about what this will do to the rest of the Android ecosystem. Amazon has already been putting the hurt on everybody (other than Apple) in the tablet market with their Fire tablets (again, they can make money from the Amazon app store, and other content), and now Google is putting the Squeeze on everybody else with the Nexus 4, the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10.
Competition is good for everybody, but if only Apple, Amazon and Google can make money due to owning the content stores, then that's a bad omen for the industry IMHO. But I digress.
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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zelendel said:
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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Google was the supervisor of the whole project. Google selected LG. If you think the phone is perfect, Google deserves most of the credit. If you think it sucks, Google deserves much of the blame.
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ctbear said:
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
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Have you tried charging it on a pc?
Plug it into USB port of computer and leave for half hour.
This happens on a few android devices when fully discharged and pc charging is the only way to do it sometimes.
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I've got an rma out for mine for a similar issue, there's a black squiggly line going across my camera lens...seems like it's probably stuck between my camera lens and the glass. Not a huge deal, but definitely an annoyance to have to send it back, especially after unlocking and rooting it.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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Agree completely. My nexus 7 had screen lift issues but I didn't care enough to RMA. Maybe I should have, though, because it completely died while charging last week, and now I have no choice but to RMA.
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I ordered 2x16GB Nexus 4s on the 27th. I received them on the 7th, but both have overheating issues (overheats and turns off with about 30 minutes of Temple Run gaming).
I placed RMA requests for both Nexus 4s, yet to receive them though.
Now I seem to have lost/misplaced both the Nexus 4s.
What will happen next? I understand that I will get charged for the replacement phones, but won't be refunded since I cannot mail back my current defective devices. But my question is, will the defective devices still be remotely disabled, or if I do find them at some point, can I still use them?
You called to return 2 phones because they shutdown from playing Templerun? Then you lost both phones before returning?
My guess is they will just keep the repay hold on the RMA if you don't return the phones. They charged you? Right?
I guess they will disable them if you report them stolen or lost..
Dude, no offense but returning a phone because it has issues with one game seems extreme.. Also.. How could you misplace 2 brand new phones? I do not understand at all..
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you cant possibly 'misplace' 2 brand new phones...
trying to rip off google?
Richieboy67 said:
You called to return 2 phones because they shutdown from playing Templerun? Then you lost both phones before returning?
My guess is they will just keep the repay hold on the RMA if you don't return the phones. They charged you? Right?
I guess they will disable them if you report them stolen or lost..
Dude, no offense but returning a phone because it has issues with one game seems extreme.. Also.. How could you misplace 2 brand new phones? I do not understand at all..
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Yes, that is correct. They get pretty hot, much hotter than my GS2, but that would be fine as long as it doesn't shut down and stuff. Maybe I just got a bad batch. Screen gets yellowish after a while too.
I haven't been charged yet. Maybe they'll charge me when they ship out the replacement devices?
Might sound totally silly but I put them back in their boxes after requesting them to be RMA'd. I can't find the boxes now. Must be in my house somewhere, but I've looked every place possible but I can't find them..
I'm with these guys. My N4 was barely out of my hand for the first week after I got it, how could you lose 2?!!!
Also, did the overheating problem present itself when playing other games or doing anything demanding? It sounds like the game might have just needed an update or reinstall. I don't think Google will do anything remotely to those devices unless you actually ask them to.
I'd start turning the house upside down to find them phones though, RMA requests don't last long.
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Might sound totally silly but I put them back in their boxes after requesting them to be RMA'd. I can't find the boxes now. Must be in my house somewhere, but I've looked every place possible but I can't find them..
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Help me, I don't remember in which one of my 48 bedrooms I left my Nexus 4s in!
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Might sound totally silly but I put them back in their boxes after requesting them to be RMA'd. I can't find the boxes now. Must be in my house somewhere, but I've looked every place possible but I can't find them..
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Doesn't sound silly so much as it sounds like you were trying to get more phones without having to wait for a normal purchase. My only real question is whether you still have them or if you sold them?
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I am highly disappointed is how Google operates their warranty service. I have never in my entire life had to pay an additional $400 to have a device sent to me as as hold. It is outrageous and completely ludicrous. There are other ways to guarantee payment if someone keeps the replacement, for example charge the card on file if you do not not receive it within 30 days. Had I known that the vibration function on on my Nexus 5 would malfunction as well as having to go through this I would have just went with a more stable device, i expected better. Stay away from Nexus, as nice as it is. They obviously do not hold up quality wise and the customer service in getting it replaced is not worth it.
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I am highly disappointed is how Google operates their warranty service. I have never in my entire life had to pay an additional $400 to have a device sent to me as as hold. It is outrageous and completely ludicrous. There are other ways to guarantee payment if someone keeps the replacement, for example charge the card on file if you do not not receive it within 30 days. Had I known that the vibration function on on my Nexus 5 would malfunction as well as having to go through this I would have just went with a more stable device, i expected better. Stay away from Nexus, as nice as it is. They obviously do not hold up quality wise and the customer service in getting it replaced is not worth it.
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I don't believe they actually take the money. They authorize the amount and check that it's available. You're not really charged anything until you don't return the device.
slyjai said:
I am highly disappointed is how Google operates their warranty service. I have never in my entire life had to pay an additional $400 to have a device sent to me as as hold. It is outrageous and completely ludicrous. There are other ways to guarantee payment if someone keeps the replacement, for example charge the card on file if you do not not receive it within 30 days. Had I known that the vibration function on on my Nexus 5 would malfunction as well as having to go through this I would have just went with a more stable device, i expected better. Stay away from Nexus, as nice as it is. They obviously do not hold up quality wise and the customer service in getting it replaced is not worth it.
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they dont charge you $400, its put on "hold". basically, they are checking to make sure that the money is there in case it does need to be charged. the way they do business is normal. there have been more than one person on xda, that posted about it, about stealing replacements. google is covering their ass. if, they dont get your phone back, then they will charge you.
obviously the nexus is not for you, as its not perfect. no device is perfect. even apple makes imperfect devices. what you should do is follow the procedure properly instead of whining about google putting 400 on hold until they get the device back.
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I am highly disappointed is how Google operates their warranty service. I have never in my entire life had to pay an additional $400 to have a device sent to me as as hold. It is outrageous and completely ludicrous. There are other ways to guarantee payment if someone keeps the replacement, for example charge the card on file if you do not not receive it within 30 days. Had I known that the vibration function on on my Nexus 5 would malfunction as well as having to go through this I would have just went with a more stable device, i expected better. Stay away from Nexus, as nice as it is. They obviously do not hold up quality wise and the customer service in getting it replaced is not worth it.
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Sorry everything isn't perfect for you and you had to pull out your credit card twice. Why is this post worthy..
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I am highly disappointed is how Google operates their warranty service. I have never in my entire life had to pay an additional $400 to have a device sent to me as as hold.
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You aren't paying $400. They're just putting a hold on the card to reserve that amount in case you don't return the phone so they can charge you later.
It is outrageous and completely ludicrous.
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That's your opinion, which you're entitled to, but it's a pretty standard practice. It's often referred to as "cross-shipping" and many people prefer it because they don't have to wait to send their phone back and get the new one. By doing it this way, they aren't without a device. You're free to not like this way of doing it, but you're also free to investigate the return policies of a company before doing business with them.
There are other ways to guarantee payment if someone keeps the replacement, for example charge the card on file if you do not not receive it within 30 days.
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And what if you don't have enough credit after 30 days? The hold they put on the card is to make sure they can get their money later if they need to. There are certainly other ways to do it as well. They could have an option to have you return the phone before they send out a new one, for people who don't want the hold on their credit card.
Had I known that the vibration function on on my Nexus 5 would malfunction
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It would indeed be great if we could all know in advance whether what we buy was going to have a fault or not.
as well as having to go through this
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As I mentioned above, you're certainly free to investigate Google's return and RMA policies and procedures before doing business with them.
I would have just went with a more stable device, i expected better. Stay away from Nexus, as nice as it is. They obviously do not hold up quality wise and the customer service in getting it replaced is not worth it.
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I get that you're having a bad experience, and that's unfortunate. I returned my Nexus 7 three times before I got one without touch screen issues, so I know how you feel. Ranting about it won't make the situation any different, but I can understand how it might make you feel a bit better to let it all out. For what it's worth, I have the original Nexus One, and the Galaxy Nexus, and they're both still working perfectly with no faults. So give Google a chance to make things right before you write off Nexus devices for good.
Like many has said in this thread, they don't charge you, they just place a hold on your card which goes away once you return the defective device. I really don't see why this is a problem... unless you don't have credit or have to use your debit card, which if that is the case you have a whole bunch of other issues to worry about.
I have never had a problem doing it this way and I think the RMA process is great. They send you a new device in advance while you get to continue to use the supposed defective device, you return the defective one once you get the new one, unless you have financial problems you won't notice the hold at all.
Don't like it? Try LG's warranty process! You send them the defective phone in advance, they fix it, you might get it back 2 weeks later. Unless you have a back up phone, you're without a phone during this time!
I'll take Google's RMA process and a non issue, non impact hold on my credit card anyday.
Google is the best company I have dealt with whenever I had to exchange phones. They ship you for free a new phone within two days and they also pay prepaid shipping label to return your old one. Authorization drops within 6 days depending on your bank. Get a samsung or htc, tell them your phone has problems, and let me know how long you will have to stay without a phone
meh thread is meh
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slyjai said:
I am highly disappointed is how Google operates their warranty service. I have never in my entire life had to pay an additional $400 to have a device sent to me as as hold. It is outrageous and completely ludicrous. There are other ways to guarantee payment if someone keeps the replacement, for example charge the card on file if you do not not receive it within 30 days. Had I known that the vibration function on on my Nexus 5 would malfunction as well as having to go through this I would have just went with a more stable device, i expected better. Stay away from Nexus, as nice as it is. They obviously do not hold up quality wise and the customer service in getting it replaced is not worth it.
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I wouldn't trust you to return your defective unit either.
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They're not charging you as the others have said.
If the whole situation is that traumatic get a land line.
Not everyone has $400 laying around to be put on hold to exchange a defective unit. Amazon doesn't do this. I'd buy a Nexus from another source vs. Google, even though the price is unbeatable.
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There is not a device that is as easy to upgrade as the Nexus. I love Nexus as a whole I still own my Galaxy Nexus. Their warranty service could be better. They should change that policy. We all know how awesome owning a Nexus is and being able to upgrade to the latest version of Android with ease.
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You pick up an iwireless or something similar for 10 bucks.
Send the nexus back for exchange.
You can also transfer your # to the cheapy phone then back again
when your new nexus arrives.
But really if you think it's such a crappy phone and company get rid of it.
The hold policy was developed AFTER everyone complained on the Nexus One, having to wait a week for exchange units...cross-shipping did not exist back then. I LOVE having cross-shipping available, and a card hold is perfectly reasonable. Buy it from Amazon if it bugs you that much.
The vibration no longer working is not the issue really, **** happens. I have gone through 3 Xbox 360s that died from the three rings of death, and yet I will still choose the Xbox One as my next system. I had my Nokia n900 swaped out twice before getting a device that functioned properly, and I would totally get a new Nokia. (Although an Android Nokia I would prefer, but that won't ever happen) I am mostly frustrated with how they service their warranty. I'm sure I am the minority in not having $400 to put on hold due to rent etc. I just feel people should know how they operate just in case they just so happen to get a defective unit.
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True. Well **** this ****.
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Should this thread even exist?
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No
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Can a moderator/admin please help me just delete this thread please. Fk it.
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slyjai said:
Can a moderator/admin please help me just delete this thread please. Fk it.
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slyjai said:
Can a moderator/admin please help me just delete this thread please. Fk it.
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Prefer not to delete it but I will close it.