Atrocious frame rate on camera and gTalk - Nexus 4 General

Coming from Galaxy Nexus, my N4 is giving more surprises, and not in a good way.
In addition, to much higher display response time that results in noticeable trail behind any on-screen object that requires screen to change pixels, I have noticed that camera has extremely low frame rate when used in picture taking mode. It can barely pull 8-10 frames per second. It works ok in video taking mode.
This would not have been much of a problem if this also wasn't the case in gTalk. I often use gTalk video chat to talk to my wife. For whatever reason, gTalk seems to access camera in this "picture taking mode" that pulls off 8fps at best regardless of available bandwidth. This results in sub par video chat experience when compared against GNex on the same wireless network.
I don't understand why this is the case. One would assume with the power of S4 behind it, it could do any picture/video processing at a much faster rate than GNex, but that is not the case. I also don't understand why Google's native gTalk video chat seems to access the camera in the wrong mode.
I hope this makes sense.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553

estallings15 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
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Thank you for the link. However, this deals bitrate/fps for video taking purposes. My problem is abysmal processing in picture taking mode that results in only a few fps in camera and gTalk applications. Am i missing something?

paul2003ca said:
Thank you for the link. However, this deals bitrate/fps for video taking purposes. My problem is abysmal processing in picture taking mode that results in only a few fps in camera and gTalk applications. Am i missing something?
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I'm telling you this is the thread for all camera/camcorder mods for this device that I have seen. If it isn't there, then you have your answer. Why not post in the thread asking if there is s way to increase frame rate?
Edit: because you have 5 posts. Time to get that post count up.

estallings15 said:
I'm telling you this is the thread for all camera/camcorder mods for this device that I have seen. If it isn't there, then you have your answer. Why not post in the thread asking if there is s way to increase frame rate?
Edit: because you have 5 posts. Time to get that post count up.
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I probably haven't articulated my observation well. It isn't the frame rate of the video that I am concerned with, it is
1. poor performance of image processing in the camera app in picture mode, particularly given N4's S4 processor
2. odd implementation of gTalk video which clearly accesses camera in this "picture mode" instead of much smoother video mode.
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I probably haven't articulated my observation well. It isn't the frame rate of the video that I am concerned with, it is
1. poor performance of image processing in the camera app in picture mode, particularly given N4's S4 processor
2. odd implementation of gTalk video which clearly accesses camera in this "picture mode" instead of much smoother video mode.
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I probably haven't articulated my response well.
Post in the thread I linked. That is where people, people who can fix things, are hanging out and discussing ways to better the cameras. My very first post should have made that clear.

GTalk>settings > (your account) >voice and video chat > default video effect > change settings might help.
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Only settings on the mobile app are for image stabilization.
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mrbkkt1 said:
GTalk>settings > (your account) >voice and video chat > default video effect > change settings might help.
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No effects same result. Comparing a Galaxy Nexus, One X, S3 and Nexus 4 side by side the N4 is by far the worst. The frame rate is terribly low (all over the same wifi network).

krohnjw said:
No effects same result. Comparing a Galaxy Nexus, One X, S3 and Nexus 4 side by side the N4 is by far the worst. The frame rate is terribly low (all over the same wifi network).
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Thank you for your feedback. It really helped me to understand that it wasn't just my individual phone.
I am hopeful it is a software issue. What puzzles me is that it is a fairly obvious one and is found in a native Google application. In addition, they had the power of S4 for image processing/compression and the result is still really bad.
I have sold my Nexus 4 yesterday for essentially what I bought it off Google Play because of this (and other, primarily display response time issues). This issue is probably not significant enough for most people. However in my case, I really grew to rely on gTalk video over HSPA to see my wife (who is also a GNex owner) and son on regular basis during the day. It works great on GNex and unfortunately felt like a downgrade when I tried it with Nexus 4.
I would love to hear if this issue gets fixed in the future.

Just curious if you see this same behavior when using Skype.

Can anyone confirm whether this bug was fixed in 4.2.2?
Thanks!

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[VIDEO] Google Nexus 7 - Camera Test & Review

Thanks for the review, it looks like a decent camera under the more extreme tests you performed. I say this as most would use the cam for hangouts or Skype only.
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Having used it for some video chat, this camera is barely even suitable for that. Unusable indoors under low light conditions.
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I can understand the image quality suffering in doors with low lighting, but why would the frame rate drop so much? That seems like a glitch/software issue.
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I can understand the image quality suffering in doors with low lighting, but why would the frame rate drop so much? That seems like a glitch/software issue.
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I agree. It was not what I had anticipated. I'm pretty fluent in cameras and photography, and there isn't really any reason for the camera hardware to do this, it's obviously software related. I plan on trying other apps to get a better handle on things.
Keep us Posted
Please keep us posted when your app on the Play store is updated for the Nexus 7.
There is no camera app on my nexus 7. How do I click pics n take videos ?
jatinps said:
There is no camera app on my nexus 7. How do I click pics n take videos ?
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Search for Camera Launcher in the Play Store.
Its pretty good for what it is
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I'd agree that the camera is good for what it is. It's definitely only viable for things along the lines of skype and google hangouts. It seems to have an issue with autofocusing as well but that could be software.
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Please keep us posted when your app on the Play store is updated for the Nexus 7.
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My REVTV app is fully capable on the Nexus 7.
reverendkjr said:
I agree. It was not what I had anticipated. I'm pretty fluent in cameras and photography, and there isn't really any reason for the camera hardware to do this, it's obviously software related. I plan on trying other apps to get a better handle on things.
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Could it be using some sort of frame-averaging algorithm in an attempt to reduce noise? Like take (30/7=4.29) four frames and average the noise out giving one good frame per four samples?
Thanks reverendkjr
Quality looks quite good.
I have Tango video call app installed on the Nexus 7 and on my Galaxy Note - comparing them side by side, looking at my face, there is more sharpness and detail from the Nexus 7 video (whether I'm using WiFi or 3G on Note), and I had always thought the Galaxy Note did quite well with its front-facing camera (certainly is better than the iPad 3!).
So I think Google has done a good job with this front camera - 1.3 MP vs. the Galaxy Note 1.9 MP.
cushcalc said:
Thanks reverendkjr
Quality looks quite good.
I have Tango video call app installed on the Nexus 7 and on my Galaxy Note - comparing them side by side, looking at my face, there is more sharpness and detail from the Nexus 7 video (whether I'm using WiFi or 3G on Note), and I had always thought the Galaxy Note did quite well with its front-facing camera (certainly is better than the iPad 3!).
So I think Google has done a good job with this front camera - 1.3 MP vs. the Galaxy Note 1.9 MP.
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I plan on taking a look at Tango, Skype, etc on this device in a later video. I had no idea that the Galaxy Note camera was 1.9MP. What an odd size.
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Search for Camera Launcher in the Play Store.
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Thanks, found the modaco camera launcher !
BTW on Skype the video quality is quite bad with a quality setting of high. On the same wifi connection, my galaxy nexus n laptop work fine.
Thanks great video!
jatinps said:
Thanks, found the modaco camera launcher !
BTW on Skype the video quality is quite bad with a quality setting of high. On the same wifi connection, my galaxy nexus n laptop work fine.
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I just did a test Skype video chat with a co-worker.
Ewww.... Looks terrible.
reverendkjr said:
I just did a test Skype video chat with a co-worker.
Ewww.... Looks terrible.
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exactly my point - not sure if this is a skype issue or a nexus 7 issue! i thought i could use this to skype when i am at airports, etc as i travel a lot. Unfortunately no, i am back to using my huge laptop or the tiny screen of galaxy nexus!
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exactly my point - not sure if this is a skype issue or a nexus 7 issue! i thought i could use this to skype when i am at airports, etc as i travel a lot. Unfortunately no, i am back to using my huge laptop or the tiny screen of galaxy nexus!
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I'm getting similar results when using skype on different wifi networks. I think it may be a camera driver issue. Not sure. I haven't tried it with Tango or any other app just yet.
^^ has anyone tried with google hangouts or gtalk video or something? I am sure google tested this on atleast their own video services before launching the product. Skype does not officially support nexus 7 yet so it could be just a skype issue

Video Recording etc,

Hey guys, been watching a few videos on the Nexus 4 now and one thing that has really impressed me so far is the video recording, and more specifically the microphone when recording.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IZIG-YnLhE
Just thought I'd shove this video here, im sure some of you have seen it already but is it just me or is the microphone really clear?
Im currently using the iPhone 4s and the microphone isn't as good as this. The video is a little shaky but I'm sure if mounted on a tri-pod (with an adapter of course) it should work fine.
Edit, then again, this video says otherwise.. http://youtu.be/M4CbYXKxj6I
The microphone is average, but the frame rate overwhelms it on the negative side.
Can anyone mod a 30fps video or is the problem of 22fps , in the sensor itself ?
The sensor IS capable of 30fps (even more). Software isn't taking full advantage of the sensor. Maybe on a more recent build the problem is already fixed, but no one on more recent builds posted an unedited video
Wat sensor does it have?
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I take my Atrix 2 as a benchmark, and since it's a phone from end-2011, for progress' sake, the N4 should beat it hands down.
Sound-wise, the Atrix 2 does near camcorder-quality and beats the N4 by a long shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ii2Q7FJ5bA
Image-wise, the N4 looks good. Remember that youtube videos are often compressed badly and stutter on their own. It is sharp and there's plenty of details, judging from the op's second link, but the framerate is poor. My Atrix2's recording frame rate is always 30 fps, and image quality is just a tad worse.
So may I ask google, is it that difficult to do, with top-notch hardware, what motorola did 1 year ago with now-outdated chips?
Doesn't youtube cap videos at 30fps?
MizuhoChan said:
Doesn't youtube cap videos at 30fps?
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Nope, It reinterprets higher framerates into 30frames, unless the slowmotion effect is going to be employed, in which case it keeps the extra frames. What looks to be the problem is the recording refresh rate. The output of the codec file is always going to be a standard (24/30 in NTSC, 25 in PAL), whether or not there are actual frames there, is determined by the refresh rate.
My point is that youtube isn't going to reinterpret the video and change the framerate.
What is wrong with the FPS?
This phone just gets worse :\
Im more interested in the mic. In some videos its decent, others its terrible?
The video looks fine, stop complaining. Do I have to go on about the price like everyone does?
This is going to be a hard week, I have to use an iPhone, sold my SGS2 ):
roughavoc said:
The video looks fine, stop complaining. Do I have to go on about the price like everyone does?
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No, it doesn't.
You can go on about the price, but you'll still be wrong, since other devices at a lot of pricing ranges are able to maintain 30fps video recording.
And since not everyone is able to buy from the Google Market (there's a thing called "rest of the world"), and price outside is REALLY higher, you'll be double wrong.
As said a lot around, seems to be a software bug, making the camera module basically "take a lot of photos" instead of "making a video". The camera itself IS able to do [email protected] and [email protected] The S4 processor and 2GB of RAM are more than capable of dealing with the support necessary.
Google/LG are likely to NOT fix it, but I hope someday the community here manages to.
Is it recorded in 1080p? If so I think it will look smooth in 720p.
Frunobulax said:
Google/LG are likely to NOT fix it, but I hope someday the community here manages to.
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Bet you lots of money that it's fixed on launch day - producing 30FPS videos like a champ. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE. And judging by the performance increase within the last few days on at least one N4 device, I'm going take an educated guess and say that Google are releasing software updates once every 2 or 3 days before the launch and my honest opinion is that Google are impairing things on purpose so that no one from the company runs off with a device and chucks it on eBay for quad profit.
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Bet you lots of money that it's fixed on launch day - producing 30FPS videos like a champ. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE. And judging by the performance increase within the last few days on at least one N4 device, I'm going take an educated guess and say that Google are releasing software updates once every 2 or 3 days before the launch (...)
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Well, I'm putting a few chips here. I sincerely hope you win, but I think the chances are abysmal that they care about such "secondary" stuff. They fixed the S4, I saw that benchmark. But no one commented about a camera fix.
DarkRyoushii said:
(...)and my honest opinion is that Google are impairing things on purpose so that no one from the company runs off with a device and chucks it on eBay for quad profit.
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Now that was just tinfoilhatted.

Instagram photos look like crap on here

I get that instagram is all about filters but I'm talking about photo resolution on the uploads. The photos shared from my One are far more pixelated and jaggy (overall crappy .jpgs themselves instead of filter related) than photos from my iPhone 4s were. Is there any reason for this drop in quality of pictures? What's the point of having this awesome camera if all the photos I share to both instagram and facebook look so crappy when shared?
These are 612x612 pictures there shouldn't even need to be any compression done on them to warrant the loss in quality.
Facebook is similar, I can readily zoom on my friends' iOS uploads from my phone but my uploads are letterboxed on my screen and I can't zoom in on them. It's frustrating when one of the reasons I switched to this phone was for photo quality.
I know it's not the phone's fault because they look great on here, so what's the deal with these apps and does anybody know how to fix?
Mine look fine
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Mine look fine
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I did notice that on the last picture I posted. The letters seemed jagged. Of course, we probably can't expect a fix for a while because all the major app developers cater to the iPhone users first. Instagram was iPhone only for a long time.
I think the 16:9 sensor may have something to do with it, as opposed to the 4:3 on most other phones
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retnuh730 said:
I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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I think it may be phone specific. The pictures from my EVO LTE never looked like that. I will post the same picture from both phones sometime and compare to see if there is noticeable difference.
I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
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I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
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I went to the settings->advanced features and unchecked the two options there and my pictures seem to look better. I'm glad you've noticed this as well because I feel like people who've only used android don't realize how much nicer pics from the iPhone looked.
Yeah, I just noticed this as well. The pics actually look worse than those from my old Galaxy SII, which had a terrible camera. What the hell, instagram?
I've noticed this as well...the pictures take a big hit in IQ when uploaded to Instagram. The copies saved to the phone look fine, but they do look pretty bad on Instagram. Even the preview thumbnails took a hit.
My friend has a SGS4 and his pictures come out SUPER jagged....mine do not suffer from that problem but do look watered down.
Pictures look much, much, MUCH better on the iPhone 5.
anybody looked at the compression rate?
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anybody looked at the compression rate?
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How do you check that?
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How do you check that?
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its in the app...u know like how they uncompress the mms pic size...ive seen this happen in a bunch of other apps also
pics look terrible
It seems that the apps is over compressing and applying sharpening to them. I have the HTC One international version.
The last couple of days I thought I was going crazy when seeing the crappy quality of the uploaded photos.
I will upload a couple of pics later to see if disabling High quality processing in the Advanced options fixes this.
It most probably something related with new phones, as some Galaxy S4 users are reporting the same problem with their phones.
Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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I've also noticed this. You are not going crazy.

Nexus 5 faulty camera software, fix on the way? (According to The Verge)

I have to say that after battery life (I knew from the moment the specs leaked, that 2300 mah wouldn't be enough) that the camera quality has been my biggest dissapointment, the phone has a HARD time focusing, the picture quality it's mediocre/sometimes decent and it really doesn't make sense since google is making a big deal out of the camera.
Check out the tag line for the nexus 5 on the play store: "Nexus 5 helps you capture the everyday and the epic in fresh new ways. It's the slimmest and fastest Nexus phone ever made, powered by Android 4.4, KitKat."
If you go the official nexus 5 website you will find lots of info about how good the camera is : http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
or the commercial ... it's all about the camera
Anyway, according to Joshua Topolsky, The Verge's Chief Editor, there's hope and we will get an update trying to fix what's broken, do you guys think it will really make a difference? Or is this camera simply a poor camera? Here's the quote:
"Representatives from the Android team say that software is to blame for the weak performance, not hardware, and reps tell me that a fix is coming to deal with the issues in the upcoming weeks. I've even seen an early build of the new software, and while it's only a minor improvement — autofocus is a hair faster, but still inconsistent, and picture quality hasn't changed — it's nice to see Google already at work.
Of course, there's no set date for a fix at this point, and I don't know how much the camera can actually be improved through software, but if the Moto X is any kind of example, there might just be a solution to this very disheartening problem."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/4/5062724/google-nexus-5-review
I don't have any issues with the camera. The iverge is so pro apple it isn't even funny anymore
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I've found no quality issue, in fact the opposite, though focus is slow
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Used HDR+ and took great photos for me. Also, have seen The Verge post a bunch of BS, not sure why people even read that crap.
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ishamm said:
I've found no quality issue, in fact the opposite, though focus is slow
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This is the deal. The camera is quite good but the issue is the focus is too slow. They need to fix that part.
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The verge are right in this case. The focus is awfully slow. Google pioneered the instant capture feature on the galaxy nexus, dont know why they abandoned it on the nexus 4 and 5.
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I don't have any issues with the camera. The iverge is so pro apple it isn't even funny anymore
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That's just not true, and you are very biased, it seems. Like others have said, there is significant lag in the camera focus and my Nexus 5 can take much much better photos than my Nexus S, but not any faster. And that is not okay.
I get the impression that all the effort on the software side so far has gone into HDR+
My experience playing around with it is that HDR+ not only improves detail in bright/dark areas, but it also results in sharper images overall. (This is contrary to what I have found with other HDR implementations which have resulted in blurrier images). Of course sometimes you don't want to use HDR (Maybe you want to photograph a figure silhouetted against the sunset for example).
Whilst I didn't buy the N5 as a replacement for an SLR, hopefully the non-HDR mode can be improved. After all, the best camera is the one you have with you.
(I also agree regarding the camera focus. At the very least, an option to pre-focus would make a huge difference!)
Shutter is slow... but it takes decent shots
It's no secret that Google needs to work on their camera software.
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It's no secret that Google needs to work on their camera software.
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Working in a software company, I can imagine how this goes...
"Who wants to work on auto-awesome." - "Yay!"
"Who wants to work on photo-sphere." - "Yay!"
"Who wants to optimize the shutter lag." - "..."
Also, your lunch looks much nicer than my work canteen pizza
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Used HDR+ and took great photos for me. Also, have seen The Verge post a bunch of BS, not sure why people even read that crap.
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The same here, very surprised by picture quality in low light using HDR+ (for landscape mainly)... I mean im sure there are better cameras but for a phone im impressed
But i've a weird problem don't know if software or hardware but the camera app stay black screen when opened from the lock screen. it happened many times, i had to put my pin code kill the app and launch again to get the camera app working again.
Anyone got the same issue?
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This is the deal. The camera is quite good but the issue is the focus is too slow. They need to fix that part.
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As a result, it's turned my shots into unfocused poo
At least the shutterlag and slow focus should be fixable, though. I hope.
I'm not expecting Note 3-level of camera, but it'd be nice if we could have say... 70% of the Note 3's camera performance.
Here's one I took and then used Snapseed. The hw is quite capable. https://plus.google.com/101858146614640675194/posts/1jwmHP58BUk
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I'm finding the camera very usable with good results.
However, try using video mode and pinch to zoom. Does this cause Camera to freeze for seconds for others, either recovering eventually or crashing out?
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Apolyxon said:
That's just not true, and you are very biased, it seems. Like others have said, there is significant lag in the camera focus and my Nexus 5 can take much much better photos than my Nexus S, but not any faster. And that is not okay.
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haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.
I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
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haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.
I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.
Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
Definitely needs to be fixed.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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The shutter lag is insane for a phone with these specs. I used Camera FX and it's much better, but all the images come out very dark.
blazeoc said:
I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.
Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
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Look this thread is about issues with the Nexus 5's camera. What good are you doing when you tell people "It's not that bad guys! You just have to anticipate the 1-2 seconds lag, I learned it too!"
It's just ignorant to tell people there is no issue with the camera at all, because you yourself can work around the lag issue. You do see that this might annoy people, especially normal users?

Possible to get rid of the ungodly shutter delay in the camera?

I turned off auto HDR, and I still have to hold the camera steady for like a second after capturing a shot or else it will be blurry. Is there any way to enable a faster shutter speed?
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HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
fatasian said:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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says he has HDR off. Still experiencing
fatasian said:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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Like I said, HDR is off. Source: I'm also a photographer.
Hoping this is a bug that gets fixed. The 2014 x is quite a bit faster.
I'm sort of guessing/hoping that moto is putting energy into the new camera stuff for L rather than optimizing for kitkat.
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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coreywallen said:
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
Agreed...For me it was too much as this is my main camera when out and about with my toddler. My S5 still takes better picture for now, so had to return the Turbo..>Will definitely keep an eye on updates etc, because other than that, this phone is beautiful...
Really hoping this gets fixed soon as well. The camera is pretty much worthless as is because of the shutter lag. I tried other camera apps from the market as well and the issue persists.
In fairness I think the N5 camera was worse at release... Source: Someone that knows next to nothing about photography and has low needs and expectations but isn't satisfied with the offering here.
Have you tried using the Google camera app, from the Play Store? I've heard that it has more features and performs better than Moto's camera app.
The camera has the ability to take photos without the shutter delay. This is noticeable when you click and hold to take multi photos. Only the first image has a delay and the rest are pretty fast. Hopefully, a software update will solve the single/first photo issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/camera-touch-hold-multi-photo-option-t2965656
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
Kayak83 said:
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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Mattish13 said:
If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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Not seeing anything that helps shutter speed. Tried a few settings and searched the thread but no improvements to shutter speed/lag anywhere to be found. Hopefully a Lollipop update will "fix."
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
Restola said:
I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
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Don't do ART. That has nothing to do with anything here.
timofcourse said:
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
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Last year's X and Droids had similar issues, from slowness to colors. They were fixed in future updates.
I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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There was no OTA update today.

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