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I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,
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I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,
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OK lemme try to answer this to the best of my abilities:
1. If you are asking does the amazon store work decently then yes it works pretty well, and everything u buy will show up in your cloud so u don't have to go to the store and search for it to reinstall it, u just goto ur cloud to do so. Personally I don't like the amazon store as much because IMHO it seems like I could sometimes find newer versions of apps I bought there in the Google store, but that was only in some cases.
2.Google play store works just fine. The Google play store does work in conjunction with the amazon store in a sense, as far as I know if it recognizes an app from the Amazon store and let's say its a free app and the Google store has a more up to date version it will let u update it, but in terms of using both at once they work fine, just don't ever update amazon apps that show up in Google play store as they mess up when updated, and u have to uninstall them.
3. We indeed have custom roms, I am currently on one myself, jesters tablet ui of hashcode's cm10.1. Unfortunately as far as I know there is no way to watch amazon movies on a alternate ROM outside of using flash player on their site, and keep in mind flash player is quite buggy on jb since adobe decided to stop supporting android... My flash player tends to crash when watching videos online if I click inside the flash player more than around 8 times.
Also thought I'd mention from experience I enjoy reading tons of manga on my kindle HD 7”, don't know if u have have been using a web browser for it, but if u have I highly suggest getting a free app called quick manga from the Google play store, it supports a lot of sites and only dl's the picture and displays it while preloading the next few pages. It allows you to bookmark them, keeps track of your current chapter and page, and download chapters if u want for off line viewing as well. I love me some manga! I have over 227 manga total in my library, not all that are ongoing though. If you ever need manga suggestions feel free to pm me!
Hope I answered your questions, I was falling asleep reading manga and got on the forum to wake myself up so I wasn't exactly in the best condition while reading and replying to your questions.
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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OK to clear one thing up, on the amazon os, the amazon app store doesn't update, and if it does it does it with the is updates. The kindles linked to your account and always stays signed in unless you unlink it, or for some reason if you clear your cache and dalvik cache , that will also usually unlink it for me.
As to your other question I am not very sure, I have never had an android device before my kindle, I haven't had a cellphone in 2 years since I lost mine outside. The kindle I have is a gift and I am jobless, and after having experience using a kindle and flashing a new is on it I find it fun to do because I'm a PC tech. But I look at it this way, if a new kindle comes out, we will first have to find out how to root it, this may be the easier part. Second we would have to determine if its even feasible to be able to put a custom or 2nd boot loader on it like the past 3(not counting first gen because it was already unlocked). So if the new one came out and u wanted to get one right away the nexus would probably be a better idea unless you want to wait and see how the new one would be in terms of rooting and flashing. But personally since I haven't used any other tablets, the kindle has grown on me, so I would probably get the new one if I could assuming the conditions above could be met.
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And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
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If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
Thank you, I will keep an eye out for that custom rom. I would not have known that if I didn't post the question nor dig deeply in the KFHD scene.
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If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
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I'm pretty much like you, T-Bone, while I'm using Nook HD+, ,y launcher of choice has always been Nova. And generally, I would not install the additional google store myself. Never touch those book/music/etc store and sometime I even use Titanium backup and force remove those stuff myself.
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
-T
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I guess that mean, I'll wait for Amazon announcement and pre-order the new KFHD if the apec goes according to the rumor. Thank you for all your insightful input.
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Installed it on my NeoTV Prime and it works great with YouTube videos cast from my Samsung Galaxy S3.
EDIT: Well egg on my face. Seems it was not CheapCast that was sending YouTube to my NeoTV Prime. YouTube will cast to my NeoTV Prime without CheapCast even installed. If anyone has Netflix and NeoTV Prime could you confirm this as working for you?
EDIT. The new update to CheapCast will not run on NeoTV Prime. Causes Force Close.
Waiting on Chrome Tab support now.
EDIT. Chrome can see any device that I have CheapCast running on (Galaxy Tab 2.7 and MK802IIIs) and both respond to a Cast from Chrome but nothing plays and Chrome errors out shortly. Both the Tab and MK802IIIs are running the updated CheapCast.
EDIT. I can cast YouTube video from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.7 to my MK802IIIs most of the time. Sometimes complains about taking too long to play but for the most part works OK>
What's this supposed to do?
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What's this supposed to do?
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Emulate a chromecast on other android devices.
Since it's beta I figure you want feedback. Here is my setup: Source: Galaxy Note 2. Server: Galaxy Tab 10.1
I started sending a YouTube video. It started but after 20 seconds I got a continual spinning circle on both the source and server.
So, I shut down the server app on the tablet by pressing the stop server button. However, even though it was shutdown on the tablet it would play that 20 seconds of YouTube over and over again. I couldn't figure out where it was playing. It didn't show up in the app, it didn't show up in the YouTube app, nowhere. I could just hear that video playing in the background. I finally reboot the tablet to stop it.
Don't mean to be an ass, but what's the point of this? Do we really need to use our phones as a "remote control" for our tablets?
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Think of those Android dongles that you already hook up to a tv. Yes they have native apps but being able to control them quickly is a plus.
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Don't mean to be an ass, but what's the point of this? Do we really need to use our phones as a "remote control" for our tablets?
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Think it through. Most of us have an extra, old Android phone laying around. Just buy a $5 MHL cable and connect to your TV. Now you have a Chromecast for $5. If nothing else, it will hold you over until Amazon gets them back in stock.
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Don't mean to be an ass, but what's the point of this? Do we really need to use our phones as a "remote control" for our tablets?
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It depends on your usage scenario.
For instance, I have an old Android phone plugged into the aux input on a stereo, which I use to stream music. The phone is less-than-accessible, so it'd be great to be able to control it remotely from my phone.
In my living room, I have an old Google TV (The Revue), which Google isn't going to be adding support for casting to. Being able to queue up music and such from my phone would be nice, but what will be nicer is when apps that don't have Google TV versions add Chromecast support. HBO Go, for instance. I think that's the place this helps the most, allowing you to use phone/tablet media apps on older Google TV devices, and some backwards compatibility scenarios (Imagine HBO Go only supports Jellybean, and your tablet can only run Ice Cream Sandwich).
Imagine having this app on something like a Kindle Fire, where it might allow you to stream media from an application that's unavailable in your sandbox (which is really the same situation as Google TV and outdated versions of Android).
Also, considering Chromecast can be added to iOS, imagine there are apps available only for iOS that support Chromecast. You could use this to get whatever they provide onto an Android device. Essentially, it's useful in a number of various situations where (1) the target device doesn't support something your phone does (2) the target device is less accessible than your phone is (3) the target device is more visible than your phone is.
Heck, it's even somewhat useful to be able to send media to a tablet without having to pick the tablet up. I have a Nexus 7 sitting in a stand, plugged into the charging cable, paired with some Bluetooth headphones. The charging cable on the Nexus 7 is very, very short, so I have to unplug the device every time I pick it up. So, there's some small convenience to be had even in the phone-to-tablet scenario.
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Don't mean to be an ass, but what's the point of this? Do we really need to use our phones as a "remote control" for our tablets?
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Think of those Android dongles that you already hook up to a tv. Yes they have native apps but being able to control them quickly is a plus.
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EXACTLY! I only got one Chromecast before they were sold out. But I have an Android stick/dongle on the other TV. By turning that on, I can cast to it OR the Chromecast on the other TV. Can't wait to try it!
I am curious if this emulator is hindered by the same API restrictions as the actual Chrome Cast? If not, that would make this very interesting.
I am guessing it will probably be hindered instead by lack of proprietary binaries... Netflix and so on. It should be easy to support non-Google-approved features like what Koush has been working on, though.
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In my opinion the nice thing would be to have the ability to cast content instead of stream content.
What I mean is that aside from sending a movie from our phone/tablet/computer to the "cheapcasted device" (streaming), it would be nice to open a movie on netflix/youtube/vimeo/ on our phone/tablet/computer and tell the "cheapcasted device" tablet to download it directly from the servers of the video site (without needing to stream anything from one device to another)
Can anyone confirm whether Cheapcast used UDP multicast to identify it on a network? I have an Asus tf700 that doesn't show up on my main router(linksys e4200v2). Ifi connect to my secondary router I can see it if my phone is on the same 2nd router. Chromecast works fine on my primary router and is visible from both devices. It is only visible from devices on my secondary device if it is directly hooked up to the 2nd device.
Do note my primary router works as the dhcp server while the second one is a reapeter bridge.
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In my opinion the nice thing would be to have the ability to cast content instead of stream content.
What I mean is that aside from sending a movie from our phone/tablet/computer to the "cheapcasted device" (streaming), it would be nice to open a movie on netflix/youtube/vimeo/ on our phone/tablet/computer and tell the "cheapcasted device" tablet to download it directly from the servers of the video site (without needing to stream anything from one device to another)
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Unless I am totally confused my your post you have it backwards. When you cast something, for example you are in Youtube, select a video then cast it to Chromecast (or CheapCast) your phone is just telling the device to stream it from the Internet. You phone is basically done at that point. Once the SDK is offical there will be apps that allow you to cast a local video in which Chromecast (CheapCast) will stream it from your phone...
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Unless I am totally confused my your post you have it backwards. When you cast something, for example you are in Youtube, select a video then cast it to Chromecast (or CheapCast) your phone is just telling the device to stream it from the Internet. You phone is basically done at that point. Once the SDK is offical there will be apps that allow you to cast a local video in which Chromecast (CheapCast) will stream it from your phone...
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Yeah that's what I mean. Maybe I didn't explained it properly.
I'm more interested on casting a video from youtube, netflix and similar sites than streaming a local video to the cheapcasted device.
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Anyone who could be kind to post the latest chromecast app (1.1.2)
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Sld I sell my chromecast and install cheapcast on my android pc stick and use it as an alternative?
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Sld I sell my chromecast and install cheapcast on my android pc stick and use it as an alternative?
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Test first. I can't get Netflix or AMZ Prime to cast on Cheapcast, so far.
Anyone managed to Get Koush' Allcast to stream to Cheapcast?
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This app is now available in Apple Store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rplay/id692511073?ls=1&mt=8
I submitted an app to Apple store, called rPlay, which does Chromecast emulation. The app is being reviewed right now. Here is the description:
"rPlay tunrs your iPhone/iPad/iPod into a chromecast device, so you can stream music and video from another device using chromecast enabled apps, such as YouTube and Google Music, etc. You can in turn stream from your iOS device to your Apple TV, this way, you can stream chromecast media to your Apple TV."
I hope Apple can approve this FREE app.
It supports YouTube/GoogleMusic/Custom Apps, chrome tab browsing is not there yet due to the lack of features in Safari browser.
This is a YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4urxecUbAk
Some screenshots are attached:
We will also release a Windows and Android version soon. On non-iOS platforms, rPlay is much more than ChromeCast, it also has AirPlay/AirPlay Mirroring, and upcomping Miracast emulation, etc.
Some screenshots for the Windows version, will be freely available, most likely next week or two.
Windows version supports AirPlay Mirroring, ChromeCast (YouTube/Google Music/Browser Tab mirroring/Custom Apps), etc.
Can't wait. Sounds awesome!!
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I submitted an app to Apple store, called rPlay, which does Chromecast emulation. The app is being reviewed right now. Here is the description:
"rPlay tunrs your iPhone/iPad/iPod into a chromecast device, so you can stream music and video from another device using chromecast enabled apps, such as YouTube and Google Music, etc. You can in turn stream from your iOS device to your Apple TV, this way, you can stream chromecast media to your Apple TV."
I hope Apple can approve this FREE app.
It supports YouTube/GoogleMusic/Custom Apps, chrome tab browsing is not there yet due to the lack of features in Safari browser.
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Sounds great! please let us know when it hits the app store
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We will also release a Windows and Android version soon. On non-iOS platforms, rPlay is much more than ChromeCast, it also has AirPlay/AirPlay Mirroring, and upcomping Miracast emulation, etc.
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Will this support Netflix?
Do you mean netfix chromecasting?
This is not easy, unless netflix app is available on that platform, and assuming it takes the same parameters as the netflix version on the real chromecast device. We will definitely give it a try.
Right now, Windows version supports all features, except netflix.
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Will this support Netflix?
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Just uploaded a video to YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4urxecUbAk
Now submitted to Apple for 8 days, the status is still "being reviewed" for the app. I will post the link here once it gets approved.
If apple doesn't want it. You still have Cydia. I'm looking forward to this app. Let hope it get approve soon
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The app is now "In Review" status, should have results in next few days.
I will post the .ipa file here soon for people with jailbreak devices if not approved.
A quick update: back and forth a few times, the app was rejected, and I had to make some modifications, now re-submitted, and waiting for review again.
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A quick update: back and forth a few times, the app was rejected, and I had to make some modifications, now re-submitted, and waiting for review again.
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Any updates?
I would definitely be interested in this app.
still "Waiting for review" status (for 4 days now). The first date I submitted this app was Aug. 22, so much waste of time.
The 2nd time takes same time as 1st time, after any modifications and binary re-submit. It's INSANE!
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Any updates?
I would definitely be interested in this app.
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still "Waiting for review" status (for 4 days now). The first date I submitted this app was Aug. 22, so much waste of time.
The 2nd time takes same time as 1st time, after any modifications and binary re-submit. It's INSANE!
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Google really dev-friendly. eh?
wideasleep1 said:
Google really dev-friendly. eh?
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Wow Google has taken control of the apple app store?
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wideasleep1 said:
Google really dev-friendly. eh?
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Is it possible that you didn't read any of this thread?
Finally, this app is approved, and now available in Apple Store (may take a few more hrs to get searched from iOS Apple Store app):
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rplay/id692511073?ls=1&mt=8
Thanks, Apple!
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Wow Google has taken control of the apple app store?
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Is it possible that you didn't read any of this thread?
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Yep! Missed the title..thought he was talking about whitelisting!
rPlay: Gave it a shot - looks pretty cool
Hey, thanks to huisinro for this great job. I received notification on sundy night about the iOS app has been approved. Gave it a try running YouTube app on my android device and using my iPad 1 as Chromecast receiver. Works out of the box. I've wrote a blog entry Use your iPad as a Chromecast receiver - and now I'm eager to get in touch with a Windows and Android port of rPlay.
Well, will this work? I can get prime videos to play through mobile firefox, but that is as far as I've gotten. I've tried but I don't know that I am using it right. Is there some way, with the new apps, to get Amazon Prime video streaming from my phone/tablet to my chromecast?
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Well, will this work? I can get prime videos to play through mobile firefox, but that is as far as I've gotten. I've tried but I don't know that I am using it right. Is there some way, with the new apps, to get Amazon Prime video streaming from my phone/tablet to my chromecast?
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I'm betting for now that the answer is NO...But there may be ways with a Hacked Rooted CCast.
I would be guessing but I expect there to be DRM in those that requires a player that can decode the DRM stream.
Netflix has one for the CCast and until Amazon supports CCast natively I wouldn't expect it to work without direct streaming whatever is on the Tablet screen directly to the CCast via Allcast or some other app that requires a Rooted CCast..
You can use vget with the full version of Avia
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You can use vget with the full version of Avia
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I have the full version of Avia. How can I use it with Amazon prime videos?
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I have the full version of Avia. How can I use it with Amazon prime videos?
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You probably can't, I'm guessing it has some kind of drm.
I meant using vget for sites like putlocker or other storage sites.
What I do is use vget as a dlna server and read it through avia.
Works as a charm MOST times.
For some reason some files won't play through dlna or streaming, and I have to download them with vget
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As far as I know...Anything that can only be played through a proprietary portal and their proprietary software (This includes NetFlix, GPlay, and Amazon) are most likely protected with DRM so that they can only be played on their proprietary player.
Which means it is pretty much up to them to incorporate Casting to CCast before you can cast those content items.
No way around it that I can think of.
Netflix activates an app on the CCast that knows how to decode their DRM encryption to play.it's streams.
It's a safe bet GPlay does this too and Amazon will need to create the same system they use.
While we all want Screen Mirroring and Local casting...The truth is the DIAL technology was always meant to be used in the way NetFlix uses it.
Thankfully it is flexible enough that we can get those other things as well.
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As far as I know...Anything that can only be played through a proprietary portal and their proprietary software (This includes NetFlix, GPlay, and Amazon) are most likely protected with DRM so that they can only be played on their proprietary player.
Which means it is pretty much up to them to incorporate Casting to CCast before you can cast those content items.
No way around it that I can think of.
Netflix activates an app on the CCast that knows how to decode their DRM encryption to play.it's streams.
It's a safe bet GPlay does this too and Amazon will need to create the same system they use.
While we all want Screen Mirroring and Local casting...The truth is the DIAL technology was always meant to be used in the way NetFlix uses it.
Thankfully it is flexible enough that we can get those other things as well.
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That makes sense. I just hope that sooner, rather than later, Amazon decides to open up their videos to all the android users...I mean for crying out loud, there is an app for the Wii and nothing for Android yet. Ridiculous.
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That makes sense. I just hope that sooner, rather than later, Amazon decides to open up their videos to all the android users...I mean for crying out loud, there is an app for the Wii and nothing for Android yet. Ridiculous.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for Amazon too... can already do it on my TV, but my TV's interface is klunky.
I think they will get there but it's a huge company whose software divisions are pretty much focused on their Kindle and Internal stuff.
Unfortunately I don't see them listed under the Dial Registry Database at all right now...
http://www.dial-multiscreen.org/dial-registry/namespace-database
Now that posting could be out of date and it may not mean they aren't working on it just that they haven't registered their Name yet.
They may be waiting for the public release of the SDK. Not sure how close they are with Google as far as development goes to be right on top of it.
I tend to avoid buying any music or content with DRM. I would rather buy the disc and rip it into a DRM free format so I can keep it on the Media Server or NAS.
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I tend to avoid buying any music or content with DRM. I would rather buy the disc and rip it into a DRM free format so I can keep it on the Media Server or NAS.
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Totally my attitude as well though recent life changes have pushed me to more of a "wherever, however" methodology, heh. Still won't pay for DRMed stuff as I've been burned too many times in the past, but I'll rent/subscribe for streaming now. Scary. I finally subscribed to Netflix... but mainly because I had the code from Chromecast. Nice bonus, the $8.99 1-month DVD+streaming gift card I bought years ago redeemed for two months of streaming service ($15.98 value). :victory:
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Totally my attitude as well though recent life changes have pushed me to more of a "wherever, however" methodology, heh. Still won't pay for DRMed stuff as I've been burned too many times in the past, but I'll rent/subscribe for streaming now. Scary. I finally subscribed to Netflix... but mainly because I had the code from Chromecast. Nice bonus, the $8.99 1-month DVD+streaming gift card I bought years ago redeemed for two months of streaming service ($15.98 value). :victory:
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Netflix is a pretty good value when you get right down to it. I just signed up for the first time last month as well. Not sure I'll keep it but at the time Plex didn't support CCast! LOL
Truth is I got it as much for my Mother to use the account as for me! I may only keep as long as the MidSeason Break is on because there is nothing but crap on until January! LOL
Netflix is worth every penny imho.
Well, American Netflix. The other ones ain't so hot but if you have an open mind, there's plenty to watch.
If you are more of a 'up to date' guy, then Hulu might be the better alternative.
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..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion. One of them might come up as the ultimate Chromecast app. So far for me, top stop is reserved for BubbleUPnP, but I would change in the heartbeat if something better comes out (tough ask).
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..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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I was about to post the same thing. So far it has been very redundant and underwhelming. We need mirroring ASAP. And I'm still waiting for that app that makes me say, "Wow, I never thought of using the chromecast that way!"
Don't get me wrong, I love my chromecast. Best bang for the buck in the history of computers/electronics. I'm just spoiled. LOL!
I've never been opposed to choice. In fact it's why I own Android products and not an iPhone.
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I stated that in my post. I am all for free market.
I would just hope that someone can think of something better than all these local media streamers.
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abuttino said:
..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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I think it's just a matter of those apps being the most logical early adopters for CCast support cause once one media player supports CCast the rest have to make sure to follow or lose marketshare.
And I wouldn't discount Google and the Whitelisting for reasons why we aren't seeing more innovative Apps for the CCast.
Players are pretty straight forward and other Apps are probably getting a bit more scrutiny from Google before getting approved for Whitelisting since those operations actually require a more complex code on the CCast side than the Local Player apps do.
The only thing that I'm disappointed in is the fact that none of the Local Stream Devs are doing much to expand the capabilities of the player on the CCast side. Bubble has probably done the most with it's subtitle support, and Plex's latest release has added a ton of features including Music Photo and some Eye Candy during navigation.
The Most popular Android player apps were popular due to the extra container and codec support they had but unless they can add that support to the CCast side player (difficult I know) their supporting CCast really isn't going to help them retain Market.
As for Mirroring you probably have two forces at play holding it up.
First the Operating System support has to be there which means only devices with 4.2.x or higher will likely be able to run it,
and Second would be the security issues (@bhiga mentioned early on) that could be triggered by some malware that could trigger your unit to mirror to someone else and violate privacy.
Even if someone finds a way to do Mirroring well I would expect Google to go over it with a fine tooth comb before they whitelisted it and lets be honest they may NEVER allow 3rd party Mirroring Apps and prefer to control that function all on their own. Perhaps as part of future versions of Android which currently the SDK seems to have the code for it but is not being used by anyone at the moment.