T-mobile and AT&T (ISIS) blocking Google Wallet NFC - Nexus 4 General

So let me start my story and then tell you why I made this thread.
Driving in 21 degree weather in Atlanta and realize my car is drifting to the right. Pull over see flat tire and nail in it. Get to gas station to air up and head to 24hr tire repair shop. Walmart has NFC air machine. Get ready to use NFC and realized I switched Nexus 4's today. (I have 2 N4's) and it wouldn't let me set the card up.
Google wallet goes through normal setup, get email saying I added new device. Application shows my usual debit card I use by default. Says click to setup card for use. Click card and after about 3 minutes of spinning I get an error. Error read "Error adding card". So I assumed it was just for the moment. Walked to attendant and got change to use air pump.
I get home to setup again and got the same error 4 times. So I called "Google Wallet support" and they told my basically "AT&T and T-Mobile have integrated an NFC chip in the new micro and mini sim cards that interferes with Wallet setup and NFC possibly but definitely Wallet support on nexus 4 devices on both carriers." He stated that the "Google Wallet Technical Support Team are aware of this issue and they've received floods of calls today concerning this and are working to fix the issue as soon as possible." Apparently T-Mobile & AT&T activated the beginning stages of ISIS in a test this week and whatever they did screwed Wallet from being set up properly. He is unaware if it affects those already set up.
I am really upset because the card portion of the air machine was obstructed so I couldn't slide my card properly and I didn't have change. The one time NFC was the only option and it didn't work.
So this is just a heads up for all of you so you won't be in a similar situation as I was. I think it's sneaky and underhanded for T-Mobile to do this and we should at the LEAST have been notified that they were activating or even including NFC in the newer SIM cards.
Anyone else had this issue? I will update OP when I hear more on this.

It's been discussed here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2020482
It don't have a problem because I'm not in a test market. It really does suck they have messed up wallet with their Isis BS. Hopefully Google can figure out a workaround.
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El Daddy said:
It's been discussed here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2020482
It don't have a problem because I'm not in a test market. It really does suck they have messed up wallet with their Isis BS. Hopefully Google can figure out a workaround.
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Damn I searched like hell to find a thread before I made a post.. smh
I guess a MOD can delete this one then??

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Damn I searched like hell to find a thread before I made a post.. smh
I guess a MOD can delete this one then??
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Better to close this one

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Google Wallet

Anyone think it's possible to make GWallet to work on our phone? I really really like the function.
Well...idk but you can try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1744403-the flashable package most likely won't flash properly so you'll have to extract the contents and put them in the appropriate places then reboot...
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The Vivid doesn't have an NFC chip, so Google Wallet won't work. There once was a NFC enabled microSD by Moneto that could utilize MasterCard Paypass, but wouldn't give access to Google Wallet, only access to Moneto's Paypass app. However there website says they're "Undergoing some Changes", and although i didn't look hard, I couldn't find any place to purchase - not to mention last I heard it was only compatible with Samsungs..
homeslice976 said:
The Vivid doesn't have an NFC chip, so Google Wallet won't work. There once was a NFC enabled microSD by Moneto that could utilize MasterCard Paypass, but wouldn't give access to Google Wallet, only access to Moneto's Paypass app. However there website says they're "Undergoing some Changes", and although i didn't look hard, I couldn't find any place to purchase - not to mention last I heard it was only compatible with Samsungs..
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I thought I saw NFC in our phone.... I must have mixup with other phone when I was shopping.....
(DAMN AT&T)
RayYung said:
I thought I saw NFC in our phone.... I must have mixup with other phone when I was shopping.....
(DAMN AT&T)
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It's not AT&T's fault. When the Vivid, and just about every other phone, came out last year, NFC technology was in a state of flux - and it still is. Google announced just in the past day or so that it's changing to work with all cards. Few phones have the NFC chips. A lot of businesses are not yet equipped to work with them. The next round of new phones should have more phones with NFC chips. A year from now might be a lot different. However, taking a credit card from my "real" wallet and running it through the scanner might take 3-4 seconds. I really am not upset if that's 1-2 seconds slower than using my phone.

FML! Left my N7 on a plane.

So United has a horrible Lost and found system. I called them less then 30 minutes after walking off the plane. I wanted someone to walk to my seat and physically grab it. Since i was near the rear of the plane and the last one out of my row im pretty sure no other passenger would of grabbed it. All they could do is basically tell me to report it on the website and i "might" get a call. The thing is I know and have talked to a few flight attendants and it seems like a lot of the time there co-workers hide the stuff and keep it for themself. So instead of united actually doing a physical check it is pretty much as good as gone at this point. I really have no faith i will get it back. It was a flawless N7 16gb too!. Doubt I will buy a new one to replace it even though i really loved the device, I just have too much other things going on to afford it atm. So if I dont get a call/email in the next few days, it was nice being a part of these forums and loved the vibe here.
That sucks. Hope you able to get it back. Good luck!
This reminds me when I lost my old GBA case on a plane. It had so many good games in there, and the GBA itself. I still had my SP case though, that had the SP and games as well, so I didn't lose everything.
I miss you Nightmare in Dreamland.
Anyway, sorry to hear about losing your Nexus.
omg that is so sad. i almost cried reading your post.. I would hate to loose mine right now . It will come in handy starting next week. Wed i have to have a bicep tendon surgery..
boohooo
i so hope they do the honest thing and get it back to you
Get a case or sleeve that you can tether to your bag, belt, etc. Also, Case Logic LNE07 comes in red so it's hard to visually miss it.
Scythe024 said:
So United has a horrible Lost and found system. I called them less then 30 minutes after walking off the plane. I wanted someone to walk to my seat and physically grab it. Since i was near the rear of the plane and the last one out of my row im pretty sure no other passenger would of grabbed it. All they could do is basically tell me to report it on the website and i "might" get a call. The thing is I know and have talked to a few flight attendants and it seems like a lot of the time there co-workers hide the stuff and keep it for themself. So instead of united actually doing a physical check it is pretty much as good as gone at this point. I really have no faith i will get it back. It was a flawless N7 16gb too!. Doubt I will buy a new one to replace it even though i really loved the device, I just have too much other things going on to afford it atm. So if I dont get a call/email in the next few days, it was nice being a part of these forums and loved the vibe here.
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United Airlines is the worst. From the most cramped planes with the worst seats in the industry, to the worst customer service there is. I used to fly Continental exclusively, but since the merger, no more. Good luck.
Any chance you had Lookout or some other tracking service installed? Sucks man. My wife is a flight attendant and she has turned in several Kindle's and what-not in, so perhaps there is a chance. Best of luck!
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Any chance you had Lookout or some other tracking service installed? Sucks man. My wife is a flight attendant and she has turned in several Kindle's and what-not in, so perhaps there is a chance. Best of luck!
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yes i have lookout installed.
You never know, I found someone's kindle on a Southwest flight and took it right up to the counter. They said they had already hear from the passenger and knew whose it was. Messing with other people's gadgets is bad mojo.
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yes i have lookout installed.
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Can you tell if it's still at the airport? If yes, that is a very good sign that it's probably been turned in (and someone turned it on and connected to wifi...but lets hope that was in an effort to identify you for good reasons). If it pops up online anywhere outside of the airport...it's pretty much gone. Hopefully you changed all your passwords to all your accounts too...notified any credit cards you have tied to any of those accounts, etc.
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Can you tell if it's still at the airport? If yes, that is a very good sign that it's probably been turned in (and someone turned it on and connected to wifi...but lets hope that was in an effort to identify you for good reasons). If it pops up online anywhere outside of the airport...it's pretty much gone. Hopefully you changed all your passwords to all your accounts too...notified any credit cards you have tied to any of those accounts, etc.
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it wasnt able to locate it which leads me to believe it wasnt turned on and connected to wifi. I had google wallet active on there but no credit card tied to it, just the $10 that came free.
Scythe024 said:
So United has a horrible Lost and found system. I called them less then 30 minutes after walking off the plane. I wanted someone to walk to my seat and physically grab it. Since i was near the rear of the plane and the last one out of my row im pretty sure no other passenger would of grabbed it. All they could do is basically tell me to report it on the website and i "might" get a call. The thing is I know and have talked to a few flight attendants and it seems like a lot of the time there co-workers hide the stuff and keep it for themself. So instead of united actually doing a physical check it is pretty much as good as gone at this point. I really have no faith i will get it back. It was a flawless N7 16gb too!. Doubt I will buy a new one to replace it even though i really loved the device, I just have too much other things going on to afford it atm. So if I dont get a call/email in the next few days, it was nice being a part of these forums and loved the vibe here.
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If you bought it with a credit card you might have some buyer protection like, replacement for stolen or broken items. I buy everything with American express, I have a 90 day window in which they will replace if lost, stolen, broken, etc.... Plus they extend any warranty an additional year...
Visa has something like this on a few of the cards...
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it wasnt able to locate it which leads me to believe it wasnt turned on and connected to wifi. I had google wallet active on there but no credit card tied to it, just the $10 that came free.
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you need to input your passcode anyway, unless you have it stored in your tablet for someone to find out
I am really surprised that Google doesn't have an easy way to register our devices. Every Android device has numbers associated with it that can't be changed. The MAC addresses for both the WiFi and Bluetooth interfaces are unique, so every device that has either of these radios could be identified. It should be part of the OS that these tablets can't install any software if the registered owner reports it lost or stolen. If the device has cameras, a picture should be taken when it's connected to the internet. These pictures could be retrieved when a valid case number or subpoena is provided. At least a warning should appear on the tablet saying it has been reported lost or stolen. Make it a pain to use a misappropriated tablet.
Yes, I know there are programs out there that do this for you, but they are easily circumvented by doing a full factory reset of the device. Come on Google! Take a bite out of crime!
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I am really surprised that Google doesn't have an easy way to register our devices. Every Android device has numbers associated with it that can't be changed. The MAC addresses for both the WiFi and Bluetooth interfaces are unique, so every device that has either of these radios could be identified. It should be part of the OS that these tablets can't install any software if the registered owner reports it lost or stolen. If the device has cameras, a picture should be taken when it's connected to the internet. These pictures could be retrieved when a valid case number or subpoena is provided. At least a warning should appear on the tablet saying it has been reported lost or stolen. Make it a pain to use a misappropriated tablet.
Yes, I know there are programs out there that do this for you, but they are easily circumvented by doing a full factory reset of the device. Come on Google! Take a bite out of crime!
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Someone on another thread said that somebody sold them a Nexus 7 that was apparently known to Google as stolen, and I guess Play access was disabled or something, I don't know the exact details though...
An app is only easily removed if it is loaded as a user app. If it is am system app a standard reset went be enough. On the other hand maybe they will be smart enough to take it further.
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A very similar thing happened to me on a BA flight inbound to heathrow years ago. On that occasion i left a case containing some sennheiser noise cancelling headphones and an ipod nano in the seat pocket. I realized just a short distance from the gate and went back but they wouldn't let me back on. They never found for me either. I was eventually told that "I think someone has add it mate".
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... If the device has cameras, a picture should be taken when it's connected to the internet. These pictures could be retrieved when a valid case number or subpoena is provided. At least a warning should appear on the tablet saying it has been reported lost or stolen.
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I have my devices set to take front and rear photos on evey boot and on multiple incorrect passcodes which are uploaded staight to dropbox and google plus. They also text each other with gps coordinates on every boot. Again, this is only useful if the thief doesn't factory reset or flash a new rom.
I wonder if devs could implement a passcode for cwm et al to secure the flashing process?
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goto play.google.com and install plan B remotely, youll be able to track it once it's online, as long as it's still tied to your google account
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I have my devices set to take front and rear photos on evey boot and on multiple incorrect passcodes which are uploaded staight to dropbox and google plus. They also text each other with gps coordinates on every boot. Again, this is only useful if the thief doesn't factory reset or flash a new rom.
I wonder if devs could implement a passcode for cwm et al to secure the flashing process?
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This was discussed before but i think they said they couldn't because it could lock you out of your device
Slate on a plane!!
Sorry, just had too
I read on Google's help pages that they can remotely lock a device so might be worth calling them. If someone can't use it they might put it back in lost property or something.

stolen...

Today is my saddest day, my perfectly good shape (no cracking screens..etc) Nexus 7 16GB stolen at Liberty Since Center Museum, in Jersey City, NJ.:crying:
I was at second floor sitting at table at cafeteria , and then step out for a few mins to watch out my 3 year old girl. I was worry about my daughter who was running on the floor, so I jump and run behind here, I completely forget my small backup on the chair I was sitting...when I realized it, I grabbed my little girl, and rush back to the table where I was sitting, but it was gone, couple of waiters cleaning the tables, and I asked them if they saw a small green back pack, they said yes..they brought my back bag, and when I checked, my Nexus 7 gone!!!
I told them where's my tablet to two waiters now standing next to me, they said they know nothing about my tablet, they said they saw the bag and thought it was forgetten, and took it back and put it here inside. They asked me to talk to office/info desk in the Museum, so I went there and told them what happened and I said I know I am pretty sure one of the waiters took the tablet and demanded that there must be some security camera or something. they said there's none in the cafeteria area.
We are talking about max 10-15 min here, I know it was museum closing time and it was only me sitting on the table in the cafeteria, and waiters cleaning the tables...that's the time all happened, so I am quite sure one of them took it out.
I did not have any remote security app installed...so I cannot remotely wipe my stolen N7, but I changed my gmail account password using my phone, and when I get home, change all other password I can think of (amazon, box, etc)...I also went to Google wallet and disable N7 device, I also deleted my google account credit card as well.
I am not sure what else I can do without any security apps installed, I did probably best I could at this point (chaining the password..etc). Drop me a line if you have any other ideas that I can do.
I am not sure how much this would help, but hoping they cannot get my account info or do anything about it. I am quietly regret that I did not install any security apps on my N7. I am also quite sad that I lost my beloved Nexus 7!!:crying:
so I was sad, holding my 3 year old girl, went thru steps and front door to meet my wife. When my wife saw my face, she said what happened..I said my nexus 7 stolen...she knew that I loved my N7, so she did not say anything, tried to cheer me up..but did not work...
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This is one of the reasons why it's so important to have a remote security app. The usefulness on wifi-only devices is a bit lacking, since your ability to control it remotely without having it online makes it difficult to use a lot of the functionality. But on the 3G model especially, it allows you to track/wipe/etc. it if necessary. You can also make it sound an alarm, which in your case could have tracked it to where it was if it was still in the building (ie: in the employee lockers or storage area).
I highly recommend Cerberus. It's a great app and does everything you can want. You can also install it in the ROM, so even if the thief wipes the device, you can still remotely access it and track down who stole it (unless they do a full system flash).
Contact Google and report it stolen.THey can wipe and disable the device as soon as it comes online.
This is why every Android user should install Cerberus immediately. The app is only $4 (after the first free week) and will allow you to use it on up to 5 devices (so less than $1 per device). Cerberus is amazing & has an insane amount of recovery/tracking methods, and can even survive through a wipe. Makes me sad more people don't use it...
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This is why every Android user should install Cerberus immediately. The app is only $4 (after the first free week) and will allow you to use it on up to 5 devices (so less than $1 per device). Cerberus is amazing & has an insane amount of recovery/tracking methods, and can even survive through a wipe. Makes me sad more people don't use it...
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if I only I knew....I was aware of security apps, in fact I had one lockout app installed, but after I was dealing with 4.2 upgrade, I did fresh re-install stock ROM, so forgot to install lockout app (not sure if it is really as effective as Cerberus though)...too many lessons learnt today
James-NC, thanks for the info. I called Google's Nexus support phone# 1-855-83-NEXUS (63987)., but could not able to get thru, waited on the phone over 40 mins...I will try tomorrow morning see if I get hold someone.....
I did know Google can wipe and disable the devices...
jazzespresso said:
Today is my saddest day, my perfectly good shape (no cracking screens..etc) Nexus 7 16GB stolen at Liberty Since Center Museum, in Jersey City, NJ.:crying:
I was at second floor sitting at table at cafeteria , and then step out for a few mins to watch out my 3 year old girl. I was worry about my daughter who was running on the floor, so I jump and run behind here, I completely forget my small backup on the chair I was sitting...when I realized it, I grabbed my little girl, and rush back to the table where I was sitting, but it was gone, couple of waiters cleaning the tables, and I asked them if they saw a small green back pack, they said yes..they brought my back bag, and when I checked, my Nexus 7 gone!!!
I told them where's my tablet to two waiters now standing next to me, they said they know nothing about my tablet, they said they saw the bag and thought it was forgetten, and took it back and put it here inside. They asked me to talk to office/info desk in the Museum, so I went there and told them what happened and I said I know I am pretty sure one of the waiters took the tablet and demanded that there must be some security camera or something. they said there's none in the cafeteria area.
We are talking about max 10-15 min here, I know it was museum closing time and it was only me sitting on the table in the cafeteria, and waiters cleaning the tables...that's the time all happened, so I am quite sure one of them took it out.
I did not have any remote security app installed...so I cannot remotely wipe my stolen N7, but I changed my gmail account password using my phone, and when I get home, change all other password I can think of (amazon, box, etc)...I also went to Google wallet and disable N7 device, I also deleted my google account credit card as well.
I am not sure what else I can do without any security apps installed, I did probably best I could at this point (chaining the password..etc). Drop me a line if you have any other ideas that I can do.
I am not sure how much this would help, but hoping they cannot get my account info or do anything about it. I am quietly regret that I did not install any security apps on my N7. I am also quite sad that I lost my beloved Nexus 7!!:crying:
so I was sad, holding my 3 year old girl, went thru steps and front door to meet my wife. When my wife saw my face, she said what happened..I said my nexus 7 stolen...she knew that I loved my N7, so she did not say anything, tried to cheer me up..but did not work...
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U should of accused them of taking it , you should have cause a scene big enuf to allow the cops to be called and them inform them when they arrive that one of them stole it. Or you coulda done it the old fashion way and kicked some ass .....never play nice with suspected thieves ....
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if your SURE you was the only one in the area except the waiters i woulda really .....really caused more then a scene, i can see your situation thou especially since you had your child present. :good:
did you leave wifi switched on? or bluetooth?
if so go back and quickly use bluetooth to search for your device name
or use "wifikill" connect to the wifi in the area you woulda been using, wifikill will then show you all devices connected tho that wifi point, you would then see if your device is still in the area "hidden under the counter"
Don't mean to sound bad, but I purchased Cerebrus and after a few weeks of leaving it dormant (not needed most of the time?) I realised that it had started sending messages to my contacts.
How do I know it was Cerebrus? BECAUSE THE TEXTS IT WERE SENDING WAS MY LOCATION AND MAP CO-ORDINATES !!!!
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Don't mean to sound bad, but I purchased Cerebrus and after a few weeks of leaving it dormant (not needed most of the time?) I realised that it had started sending messages to my contacts.
How do I know it was Cerebrus? BECAUSE THE TEXTS IT WERE SENDING WAS MY LOCATION AND MAP CO-ORDINATES !!!!
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i think its a feature of cerebus you cant check or un-check in settings,,, just goin on what ive read elsewhere myself i use "prey" security" it also has a feature that is my device is stolen i can send it an e-mail to activate map tracking
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i think its a feature of cerebus you cant check or un-check in settings,,, just goin on what ive read elsewhere myself i use "prey" security" it also has a feature that is my device is stolen i can send it an e-mail to activate map tracking
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But it was just doing it by itself, I even forgot I had Cerberus.
My phones networks kept turning themselves off and on, then contacts kept getting sent maps of where I was.
Un-installed Cerberus and Deleted the accounts on website, the issues stopped.
WHY? WHY DOES CERBERUS MESS MY PHONE UP !?
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But it was just doing it by itself, I even forgot I had Cerberus.
My phones networks kept turning themselves off and on, then contacts kept getting sent maps of where I was.
Un-installed Cerberus and Deleted the accounts on website, the issues stopped.
WHY? WHY DOES CERBERUS MESS MY PHONE UP !?
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because user error. its an option in the program..
Shame you have changed your Google password.
Otherwise could have done a remote install of Lookout Plan B (search on market)
Then tracked the tablet yourself!
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We are talking about max 10-15 min here
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Really sorry to hear about your device, but even ten minutes is a really long time. I wouldn't leave anything of value unattended for more than 10-15 seconds.
I've had Cerebus installed on two phones and three tablets. Never had any issues with contacts randomly getting text messages of my location. I'm calling user error.
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did you leave wifi switched on? or bluetooth?
if so go back and quickly use bluetooth to search for your device name
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That is exactly what I was going to say. OP is going to kick himself if he did indeed have bluetooth enabled and didn't think to search for all nearby bluetooth devices from his phone.
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or use "wifikill" connect to the wifi in the area you woulda been using, wifikill will then show you all devices connected tho that wifi point, you would then see if your device is still in the area "hidden under the counter"
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That I didn't think of, and it is pure genius!
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If you got an coporate exchange account setup on the device you cant remote wipe (including SD card) from there.
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That is exactly what I was going to say. OP is going to kick himself if he did indeed have bluetooth enabled and didn't think to search for all nearby bluetooth devices from his phone.
That I didn't think of, and it is pure genius!
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lol cheers
First thing the thief do, turn the device off. No trace would works.
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adxgrave said:
First thing the thief do, turn the device off. No trace would works.
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I disagree.
If it was a random person walking by who spotted the device and took it, they would high-tale it out of the area, making any BT/Wi-Fi tracking impossible anyway. But odds are, the first thing they're going to do with it after they get to a safe location is play with it and see if they can get access to it. Sure if they were smart they might realize it is safer to turn if off and reflash it when they get home, but honestly, what are the odds of the thief being that smart?
If it was a waiter, as the OP assumes, they're going to try and hide it ASAP. It's unlikely they are going to walk out of the building, at least not too far. So that leaves a few random hiding spots around the immediate vicinity. They aren't going to take the time and inspect the device, let alone try and figure out how to turn it off. They wouldn't want to be seen by anyone with it in their possession. Odds are, they grabbed it, hid it with something they were carrying or in their apron (if applicable) and stashed it for later. And if that was the case, and if it was online (highly unlikely for the non-3G unit, then recovery would be possible.
As a prime example of stupidity regarding thieves and tablets, look at the TSA agent who was just caught stealing a planted iPad. A local news crew had incidents staged where 5-10 iPads were accidentally left by travelers in an airport. All but one were promptly returned to the "owner". But one guy, on camera, snatched it. They put a GPS tracker in it, and traced it to the agents home. For a week they waited, and they saw it go online, apps attempted to be downloaded/installed (on the owner's account) and just played with in general. Finally, the news crew arrived and questioned him about it - which he of course denied. Until that is when they set off a remote alarm siren. He made up some excuse and returned it. Fortunately, and surprisingly for the government, he lost his job.
So no, thieves are usually quite stupid.
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So no, thieves are usually quite stupid.
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too true if you search google for stolen tablet/phone recovered with prey security app and there a ton of people who backed with friends or police get theyre devices back from theives,. :victory::victory::victory:

Google wallet and the note 3

What is the status of getting Google wallet to work on the note 3? Ive had Google wallet since my nexus 5 days and really like the app. .. Will 4.4 bring us access to it?
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What is the status of getting Google wallet to work on the note 3? Ive had Google wallet since my nexus 5 days and really like the app. .. Will 4.4 bring us access to it?
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Google wallet works, however the tap to pay feature doesn't. And that really sucks!
I believe Isis works now with 4.3, and if you flash 4.4 a certain way isis will still work. You'll have to search for that isis thread for more info.
So even with the N900A update this week we still do not have a working Tap to Pay on Google Wallet. I was hopefully both because of their response to my FCC complaint in Nov 13 that said 4.4 would have it and because its my understanding it works on the 4.4 update for the i337 S4.
I'm planning on starting a thread on the AT&T Community Support forums but I'd love to know if there's a simple way around this. I used to love Tap to Pay on my phones circa 2011/12 but I haven't had it for almost 3 years courtesy of all 3 Galaxy Note models. Has anyone attempted to side load the .apk from the Nexus 5?
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I too would like tap-to-pay to work in Google Wallet. But I'm curious about why people value tap-to-pay.
I've been using tap-to-pay in Isis Wallet, and it works well. But I find that it's slightly more work to take out my phone, start the wallet app, enter my PIN, and tap than it is to take out my physical wallet, remove the credit card, and swipe. Tap-to-pay is entertaining because it still has novelty value, but I don't see any practical advantage yet.
I was also hoping that the update would include support for tap to pay. I had the X-Note Rom installed for a while and tap to pay surprisingly worked. Probably because it was based off of an international Rom I would assume. I have gone back to stock and not having tap to pay again sucks. I hope Google can force AT&T to let us use it soon.
Gary02468 said:
I too would like tap-to-pay to work in Google Wallet. But I'm curious about why people value tap-to-pay.
I've been using tap-to-pay in Isis Wallet, and it works well. But I find that it's slightly more work to take out my phone, start the wallet app, enter my PIN, and tap than it is to take out my physical wallet, remove the credit card, and swipe. Tap-to-pay is entertaining because it still has novelty value, but I don't see any practical advantage yet.
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From a security standpoint it's far more secure than a physical card presented to the cashier. Convenience wise, it's easier to not carry multiple cards and safer too from a potential lose your wallet standpoint.
I agree there's a high level of novelty but it's a useful feature none the less. ISIS is a boondoggle and only works with AT&T provides sim cards. I'm usually on Straight Talk or Go Phone when in the US.
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Has anyone attempted to side load the .apk from the Nexus 5?
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Yes, and unfortunately it still doesn't use the tap-to-pay feature.
I'm like you. When I was with t-mobile, I returned my precious Note3 all because of this stupid carrier blocking this service. I went with the Nexus5.
My wife and I, recently moved to at&t, and knowing the 4.4.2 update was just around the corner, I jumped into another Note3.
Now, since I'm full blown official 4.4.2, I STILL CAN'T USE GOOGLE'S WALLET TAP-TO-PAY FEATURE!!!
WHAT THE HELL!?!?
Even side loading my Nexus5 Google wallet apk, it still won't activate the service I fell in love with on my Nexus5!
Just plain stupid!
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aygriffith said:
From a security standpoint it's far more secure than a physical card presented to the cashier. Convenience wise, it's easier to not carry multiple cards and safer too from a potential lose your wallet standpoint.
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Thanks, those are helpful points.
I can see those advantages arising eventually, but for me at least they're not here yet. I only use one card anyway, and until e-wallets are accepted everywhere, I still need to carry the card. Everyplace that accepts e-wallets also allows self-swiping of cards, so there's no cashier risk if I use my card instead of my e-wallet. Card readers can be skimmed, but so can NFC readers.
Nonetheless, I would like tap-to-pay to work.
I came here researching for a friend who wants wallet tap and pay on his AT&T note 3 and I have to comment on the "novelty" factor. I have a t-mobile s4 running TheSickness's Insane Kit Kat V8 and I use tap and pay on a daily basis. I have one bank account and 2 debit cards linked to wallet and each payday I allot myself an amount to use for lunches and things at work. There are two stores beside mine, a drugstore and an upscale, independent grocery store, who both have NFC registers. I don't have to pull out a card or fumble with cash because I already always have my phone in my hand. I tap the card reader and put in my wallet pin and I walk out. It's not just novel, it's incredibly useful and helps me budget my income better. Just my two cents.
Edit : come to think of it, the McDonald's and the subway there both have NFC, too.
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Gary02468 said:
Thanks, those are helpful points.
I can see those advantages arising eventually, but for me at least they're not here yet. I only use one card anyway, and until e-wallets are accepted everywhere, I still need to carry the card. Everyplace that accepts e-wallets also allows self-swiping of cards, so there's no cashier risk if I use my card instead of my e-wallet. Card readers can be skimmed, but so can NFC readers.
Nonetheless, I would like tap-to-pay to work.
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NFC can't be skimmed, not like a credit card. While its true the phone is using Host Card Emulation there is little to be gained by capturing the NFC data. The Wallet app communicates with Google's servers to generate unique card data for each transaction. That's why the Google Wallet app only functions when you have internet access.

[Q] What is the draw with samsung pay?

I didn't want to clutter up the root thread asking but some people seem very bent on being able to keep samsung pay but why? Isn't it pretty much just google pay just from a different company? I never use things like this so I am not sure if you get some kind of bonus or something using it.
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I didn't want to clutter up the root thread asking but some people seem very bent on being able to keep samsung pay but why? Isn't it pretty much just google pay just from a different company? I never use things like this so I am not sure if you get some kind of bonus or something using it.
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google it then and see what its about. Believe you will find out information and no need to clutter here with information so readily available for you
Samsung pay works anywhere (even terminals where apple pay &Android pay don't).
It's really cool when u pull your phone out and the cashier say w"we don't have that here" and it works.
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deeznutz1977 said:
Samsung pay works anywhere (even terminals where apple pay &Android pay don't).
It's really cool when u pull your phone out and the cashier say w"we don't have that here" and it works.
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Okay so it's no different from just cards with tap to pay chip in them. I can see why some people care then but I don't know root or being able to use my phone as my wallet is a toss up.
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Okay so it's no different from just cards with tap to pay chip in them. I can see why some people care then but I don't know root or being able to use my phone as my wallet is a toss up.
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No it's different Samsung pay will work on a regular "dumb"terminal where others won't
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I use to root every phone I had within moments of getting it. I liked Android Pay and on the Nexus 6 was not happy when on Marshmallow they took away Android Pay if the phone was rooted, however someone very smart figured out how to get around this. However on the S7 Edge root was not there right away and got to where I was using Samsung Pay a few times a week. I like being able to not have to pull out my wallet in stores and just tap my phone and pay. Since this works at I would say 85%+ plus of stores it because a standard that I expect to be able to do. Now that phones don't have to have root and custom roms to make them work good out of the box I would not trade having root to give up Samsung Pay.
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No it's different Samsung pay will work on a regular "dumb"terminal where others won't
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Witchcraft! Okay I got to try this out and see if it really works on something that is swipe only for the card.
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Witchcraft! Okay I got to try this out and see if it really works on something that is swipe only for the card.
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Lmao
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Used it in Walgreens yesterday and the counter person was saying it won't work because her Apple Pay doesn't work. To her surprise the terminal approved the payment in seconds. Her jaw darn near dropped. Walked out with a smile.
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hahaha you guys still discussing this come on now like I said Google it watch the videos and check it out. Simple.... Now if yall talking bout Samsung Pay stories change the title and lets get busy on that...
Google IT brotha just Google IT and really how do you not know about Samsung Pay in the NOte 7 section? hmmmmm
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Used it in Walgreens yesterday and the counter person was saying it won't work because her Apple Pay doesn't work. To her surprise the terminal approved the payment in seconds. Her jaw darn near dropped. Walked out with a smile.
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And you my friend made the best reason to get it, where do I sign?
The only time it won't work is on magnetic card readers that has a manual switch that a physical card has to touch to activate the magnetic head.
Can you guys list where it has worked for you (besides walgreens) so I won't look stupid when the clerk says "I told you so!"?
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Works damn near everywhere I tried, even on those old school terminals with the keypad. Since Samsung pay started, I've made about $200 dollars from promotions. New device promotions, being the first 100 to use any hour on a specific day, and referrals.
Places I used it at ......
7 Eleven
Rite Aid
Nike Town
Random corner grocery stores (most have the old school terminals).
Paid a contractor that had a plug in mag strip on his iPad. (I was surprised that worked)
Best Buy
MicroCenter
Apple Store
Random Super markets
Random clothing stores
and etc ....
So.. the few seconds it takes for you to pull out your phone, you pull out your wallet instead.
Talk about lazy first world problems
woofed said:
So.. the few seconds it takes for you to pull out your phone, you pull out your wallet instead.
Talk about lazy first world problems
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Actually Samsung Pay is faster. Loading your card into chip terminals takes longer to process. Sometimes you have to swipe first, then insert into chip reader. On mag strips only, sometimes my card or the mag strip reader itself doesn't read properly, I would have to swipe more than once. And also, using Samsung pay is more secure.
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So.. the few seconds it takes for you to pull out your phone, you pull out your wallet instead.
Talk about lazy first world problems
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Talk about extra security.... paying either way with Samsung Pay is tokenized... so even if they some "dupe" the transaction, the information is useless... that's not lazy, that's just smart.... :highfive: :good:
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So.. the few seconds it takes for you to pull out your phone, you pull out your wallet instead.
Talk about lazy first world problems
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Why pull out your wallet from your back pocket, use the other hand to take your card out from whatever slot it's on, hold your walllet with one hand while with the other had making sure you have the card facing correctly so you can swipe or insert it properly, then swipe your card or insert your card in the chip reader (hopefully you won't accidentally leave it if you're in a rush), then when done, open wallet, put card back in with the other hand, put wallet away, then grab your stuff.
When you can just take your phone out with one hand, wake up your phone, swipe up from bottom to launch Samsung pay, approve to use it with your finger print and put the phone next to the magnetic card swipe. When done just put your phone away all with 1 hand.
But if you feel it's all about the same then who cares whichever people use. Having options are always good in my book [emoji106]
Unless you happen to forget your wallet and you have only your phone, without Samsung pay then there's no option but to drive all the way back home. Lol
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If I could lay my wallet on a terminal and have my transaction completed, I would.
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dkb218 said:
If I could lay my wallet on a terminal and have my transaction completed, I would.
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Samsung wireless pay card. BT 4.1 enabled credit card size device you can keep in your wallet and manage via your phone. Well hasn't been invented yet but maybe Samsung will see my post. [emoji38]
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Samsung wireless pay card. BT 4.1 enabled credit card size device you can keep in your wallet and manage via your phone. Well hasn't been invented yet but maybe Samsung will see my post. [emoji38]
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I'll call from the year 2025 and let you know if it works. Still, that seems an extra step with less security.

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