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Just received 2 of my nexus 7's no screen problems

I just want to let the community know that I ordered 2 nexus 7's last Wed. and got them today. BOth have 0 screen problems (Raising or washed out colors).. Perhaps they fixed the issue. I decided to order from google because the 2 I bought from Walmart had screen raising problems.

cdejesus1119 said:
I just want to let the community know that I ordered 2 nexus 7's last Wed. and got them today. BOth have 0 screen problems (Raising or washed out colors).. Perhaps they fixed the issue. I decided to order from google because the 2 I bought from Walmart had screen raising problems.
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Lucky... I've had FIVE N7s so far and they've all some type of defect. Some had dead pixels and screen flicker, and others had a raised screen.
Quick Question though:
Did they come with 4.1.1 pre installed?

Nxxx said:
Lucky... I've had FIVE N7s so far and they've all some type of defect. Some had dead pixels and screen flicker, and others had a raised screen.
Quick Question though:
Did they come with 4.1.1 pre installed?
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no.. just 4.1...

I just received my replacement N7 today and it's perfect. The first one I got last week in the mail had a creaky screen; the beginning of screen lift. I called Google and they sent another one out and this one has no issues. Unlocked, rooted, and loving it!
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What's the CSSN/SSN?
Are they C70K builds?

kenyee said:
What's the CSSN/SSN?
Are they C70K builds?
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Mine's a C60K build, no defects.

I'm still skeptical on the no washed out claim. Seems like they all have this. Some people just don't notice it.

Ravynmagi said:
I'm still skeptical on the no washed out claim. Seems like they all have this. Some people just don't notice it.
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No some are definitely worse than others. I've had one that was washed out with less saturation and now my current one which is fine...

First C6 I had screen had no lift was perfect but had battery defect (kept dying at 20% even after calibration and other troubleshoooting), C7 now has screen lift and gonna try and exchange it out again.
Both did the oversaturation/washed out thing after watching netflix or a video
**EDIT just got back with the replacement another C7 was good out of the box, no lift but after using now I got either a stuck/dead pixel upper right of my screen got the stuck pixel fixer running but I think its toast. 3 for 3 with issues now
*edit 2 exchanged it out today there were no more in stock so just took the credit back

just4747 said:
No some are definitely worse than others. I've had one that was washed out with less saturation and now my current one which is fine...
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I agree with that. I've seen some pictures of really badly washed out ones. But I think there is still some minor washed out look to all of them.

Well maybe I am lucky than, I got mine on WalMart and there is no screen lift, no dead pixels and color is perfect.

Ravynmagi said:
I agree with that. I've seen some pictures of really badly washed out ones. But I think there is still some minor washed out look to all of them.
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Honestly, there's so much variability in screens that nothing surprises me. I've gone through four N7's so far, screens have been:
1. Very nice colors, relatively neutral whites, color temps just about right (not too hot, not too cold, just like Goldilocks). Returned because of dead pixel and screen lifting. Wish I hadn't, though; I could have lived with the dead pixel and minimal screen lift for a much better screen.
2. Extremely yellow tint, very unpleasant whites, colors also off; can't decide if it's color temp too warm (which I usually associate with a reddish tint) or something else. Couldn't get past the screen on this one, so returned it for this reason alone.
3. Somewhere in between #1 and #2 in yellow tint and colors. Not terrible, not great. Unfortunately, speaker was WAY too low, almost unusable even at max volume. Also the only one with actual mushiness and creaking on the left side. Returned that one too.
4. A little more yellow than #3, a little less than #2. But three dead pixels, and speaker distorted starting at 75% volume.
#1-#3 were from Google Play, and I had two sitting side by side throughout so I could compare them. #4 is from Staples.
So, yes, who knows what some people are experiencing when it comes to the screen. I can definitely imagine some people having less saturated colors and such, because I saw difference on four different units.

cdejesus1119 said:
I just want to let the community know that I ordered 2 nexus 7's last Wed. and got them today. BOth have 0 screen problems (Raising or washed out colors).. Perhaps they fixed the issue. I decided to order from google because the 2 I bought from Walmart had screen raising problems.
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I hope mine is ok.. it's coming from Google tomorrow .. fingers crossed!

r_tait said:
Where did you purchase them from?
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He says Google in the post you quoted...

Guitarboarder28 said:
He says Google in the post you quoted...
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Haha yeah just noticed that and edited my post

Well got mine today and the left side of the screen is separating pretty bad. Just got off the phone with them for a replacement.. ah well..number 2 on the way.

Are you having problems where a hard tap on different parts around the bezel results in the screen glitching? I am not putting much pressure on the bottom left corner (side with screen lift) and the screen starts warping.

im sending back 2 nexus today because of issues were the touch screen stops responding after a few mins of use. is this a common issue? makes playing a game or any use more than 5 mins pointless.

Got my C80K August production run Nexus 7 colors as good as iPad 3

So I have posted a few times and returned 2 Nexus 7's for slightly off color tones purplish blue link colors on Google and innacurate whites as well as some trailing or blur. No screen lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpqfMlWup18 I can't stand the yellowish tint from the one on the left.
Well yesterday I was at Staples with $15 gift card from trading in my used inks and I see a UPS delivery guy come through, I know from Past expereinces UPS delivers the Nexus 7 to Staples.
And So I asked if they had any new Nexus 7's at first they said no but then I pointed out the UPS delivery and a new shipment had just come in of 8GB models.
so for $199-$15= $184 I got my new Nexus 7, I would have not bought it but when I looked underneath and saw the new C80K CSSN I had to go for it.
I get home and I unbox Perfect no dead pixels, Or light bleed, today I compared it to an iPad 3 at the Apple store, and the colors are exact spot on. No off tones greens are not pale or off tint, white is white not blueish. Of course the iPad 3 colors are slightly Vibrant, but you can only tell if side by side. What I wanted was color accuracy, and previous Nexus 7's lacked that. Not sure if this is a new Hynix IPS LCD or the new ones made by SHARP, It has to be IPS by SHARP, because there is no ghosting and even touch response is faster.
Regardless, Google must have really got on ASUS's back to inspect more units per each thousand shipped. Or they sourced some better components.

thanks for the video killa.
i'm still hesitant to pick up a C80 model as some people are reporting defects with those.
maybe should wait for C90.
lol

I justed picked another one up today too and its a c80 but it still has slight screen lift on the left side. I personally dont believe this very minimal lift is a flaw. You can only tell its slightly lifted when you do the horizon test so all is good in my book!

IceColdKila said:
So I have posted a few times and returned 2 Nexus 7's for slightly off color tones purplish blue link colors on Google and innacurate whites as well as some trailing or blur. No screen lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpqfMlWup18 I can't stand the yellowish tint from the one on the left.
Well yesterday I was at Staples with $15 gift card from trading in my used inks and I see a UPS delivery guy come through, I know from Past expereinces UPS delivers the Nexus 7 to Staples.
And So I asked if they had any new Nexus 7's at first they said no but then I pointed out the UPS delivery and a new shipment had just come in of 8GB models.
so for $199-$15= $184 I got my new Nexus 7, I would have not bought it but when I looked underneath and saw the new C80K CSSN I had to go for it.
I get home and I unbox Perfect no dead pixels, Or light bleed, today I compared it to an iPad 3 at the Apple store, and the colors are exact spot on. No off tones greens are not pale or off tint, white is white not blueish. Of course the iPad 3 colors are slightly Vibrant, but you can only tell if side by side. What I wanted was color accuracy, and previous Nexus 7's lacked that. Not sure if this is a new Hynix IPS LCD or the new ones made by SHARP, It has to be IPS by SHARP, because there is no ghosting and even touch response is faster.
Regardless, Google must have really got on ASUS's back to inspect more units per each thousand shipped. Or they sourced some better components.
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In regards to N7 screen vibrancy I think it's possible for someone to release a contrast control app. I was playing with a photo in a photo edit app and was using the contrast tweak and it is was possible achieve more contrast and made colors pop-out more. Someone serious needs to make an app.

My C80 is flawless.

I don't think there is anything different about the C8 production run.
I had screen lift, which was getting worse so I returned it.
Color production was fine for some colors, bad for some especially green (looked washed / pastel colored). White production was great on my model, blues were good as well.
Speakers were pretty bad, worked decent but at about 85-90% during video playback and music it sounded distorted / crackling.
SPreston2001 - When I received my Nexus 7, C8 I had ZERO screen lift. It gradually came and got worse. Got to the point where it was actually spongy and I could see/feel it move when pressed. Had it on the left side, and on the top left.

Well I would imagine that the don't wait until the next month to make changes. Perhaps quality changes were made in the middle of August, and some have good ones, others don't.
I just ordered mine, so I have fingers crossed.

NickS VR4 said:
Well I would imagine that the don't wait until the next month to make changes. Perhaps quality changes were made in the middle of August, and some have good ones, others don't.
I just ordered mine, so I have fingers crossed.
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Lol I think people are getting their hopes up! Like 145ty said, I personally dont think any changes were made...

SPreston2001 said:
Lol I think people are getting their hopes up! Like 145ty said, I personally dont think any changes were made...
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Honestly I think that too, but I was making a point that the serial just indicates the month, does not indicate that changes were made.
I would imagine that once production is in full swing and the product is released, its not easy to fix problems and keep up with demand.

I went through a number of N7s and rejected quite a few because of the yellow tint.
However, my very first N7 ordered during Google I/O had the same color quality (without the yellow tint) as my latest C7OK unit. In other words, this isn't something that's new to the C8OK, it's really the luck of the draw in general so far.

I think it must be a hit-or-miss in all production runs. My C7OK is perfect.

So let me get this straight....
Having a screen with a slightly yellowish tint - we aren't sure if that is a factory defect that warrants returning?
I only have one Nexus 7, so I can't compare it apples to apples, but I believe mine has a slightly yellowish/warm tint. To be honest I'm not too bothered by it and believe that it makes reading easier on the eyes, but if you guys think that this is a defect, I would think twice about returning it because of that.
I'm still on the fence about whether to return it because of the screen lift problem (about 1mm at most), but combined with this I would certainly think twice about whether or not I should get a later production model. It's not like I would return it because everyone says so, but I certainly don't want something defective if it would lead to problems later down the road, as I plan on having/enjoying this tablet for quite a long time.

marcucci217 said:
So let me get this straight....
Having a screen with a slightly yellowish tint - we aren't sure if that is a factory defect that warrants returning?
I only have one Nexus 7, so I can't compare it apples to apples, but I believe mine has a slightly yellowish/warm tint. To be honest I'm not too bothered by it and believe that it makes reading easier on the eyes, but if you guys think that this is a defect, I would think twice about returning it because of that.
I'm still on the fence about whether to return it because of the screen lift problem (about 1mm at most), but combined with this I would certainly think twice about whether or not I should get a later production model. It's not like I would return it because everyone says so, but I certainly don't want something defective if it would lead to problems later down the road, as I plan on having/enjoying this tablet for quite a long time.
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No I can tell you right now the c80 units look no different screenwise than earlier units. Maybe others had bad/defectives screens but my c70 looks identical to two other c80 units I just recently purchased. The color issue more likely can be corrected with software tweaks so dont sweat it. Every unit ive seen had a slight yellowish tint including the display models I played with at Staples, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Enjoy the tablet for what it is and dont give yourself a headache by looking for reasons to return it.

I think they are all the same screens but they aren't tuned properly. Custom Kernels will tweak the color so that they pop more (Trinity does this). I notice a big difference with my screen colors by using EOS rom (comes with a Trinity kernel).

I have been through all of this with my Samsung galaxy nexus, I went through 3 of them, till i found one I liked. It still was not perfect but gave up after that, some had purple tint, one was blue tint and other had yellow tint, some had vertical banding.
I think what it comes down to with electronics specifically all these screens, no two devices will look identical. I am not 100% sure or know why.
My C80 had one dead pixel other then that worked fine, but I noticed it right away since right in center of screen, I exchanged it and this time got no dead pixels, screen looks perfect, I am sure if I look hard enough I can find something wrong somewhere but I won't because once I do hard to go back.

[Q] Diagonal lines across the entire screen

My HTC One screen seems to have some kind of mesh of faint diagonal lines running across the entire screen. It's kinda hard to explain, but basically when I look at the screen up close, it looks like the background of the Steam Android icon (see attachment). The lines are especially noticeable against light, single-coloured backgrounds; for example if I go to phone settings, look at the screen up close and slowly slide up and down, the lines become apparent since they do not move along with the rest of the graphics. The lines appear to be above the actual screen but below the glass surface. It almost seems like there's some kind of crappy screen protector on the screen or that the screen was somewhat dirty with fingerprints. I should also mention that the lines do not rotate with the screen; in portrait mode, they run from the top right of the screen to the bottom left, and in landscape mode from the top left to the bottom right.
Anyone encounter something like this before? I would probably think this was normal, that I'm just seeing the pixel array when I look at the screen up close, except that I never noticed lines like these on my previous One (which I returned due to several stuck pixels) even though I scoured the screen very closely.
I want to return the phone and get a new one, but I'm worried that they won't believe or see the issue at the store...

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I am typing this on a day old HTC One with this very issue. I've been surprised not to see any other mention of it, evidently it's either a rare fault or simply inherent to this digitiser and somehow nobody is noticing or bothered by it.
I've been agonising over the choice between this phone and the S4, I eventually settled for this and haven't had such buyers remorse in memory.
The screen is not only washed, more than I was expecting upon my return to LCD, but as you say it looks as though it is wet, covered in condensation or fingerprints. The overall effect resembles almost exactly the distortion you get from condensation caused by breath or sweat on the glass.
When looking closely it reveals itself as the diagonal lines of the digitiser as you describe.
It seems to cause the 'wet' or noisy colour distortion by being half darker stripes, and half naked. Almost like a micro version of reinforced safety glass.
If this is the nature of the HTC One, I would find it both surprising and in fact laughable.
However it is too precise in nature to be a fault or defect.
At this stage I'm planning on a swap for an S4 (albeit not for this reason alone, but that's another thread).
I did have some difficulty explaining and demonstrating the effect to the salesperson, and felt silly even talking about something so minute.
However - fat ugly bezel, washed colours and grey blacks aside - this is a flaw that completely ruins the display and therefore the phone itself for me.
I imagine this thread is DOA, if not let me know how you got on. It's an incredible relief to at least find one person who also noticed this and found it to be a problem.

BigKush said:
I am typing this on a day old HTC One with this very issue. I'this een surprised not to see any other mention of it, evidently it's either a rare fault or simply inherent to this digitiser and somehow nobody is noticing or bothered by it.
I've been agonising over the choice between this phone and the S4, I eventually settled for this and haven't had such buyers remorse in memory.
The screen is not only washed, more than I was expecting upon my return to LCD, but as you say it looks as though it is wet, covered in condensation or fingerprints. The overall effect resembles almost exactly the distortion you get from condensation caused by breath or sweat on the glass.
When looking closely it reveals itself as the diagonal lines of the digitiser as you describe.
It seems to cause the 'wet' or noisy colour distortion by being half darker stripes, and half naked. Almost like a micro version of reinforced safety glass.
If this is the nature of the HTC One, I would find it both surprising and in fact laughable.
However it is too precise in nature to be a fault or defect.
At this stage I'm planning on a swap for an S4 (albeit not for this reason alone, but that's another thread).
I did have some difficulty explaining and demonstrating the effect to the salesperson, and felt silly even talking about something so minute.
However - fat ugly bezel, washed colours and grey blacks aside - this is a flaw that completely ruins the display and therefore the phone itself for me.
I imagine this thread is DOA, if not let me know how you got on. It's an incredible relief to at least find one person who also noticed this and found it to be a problem.
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It happens. It's the digitizer and happens on phones where the LCD and Digitizer are one piece. It isn't as big of a deal as you're making it though.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

that steam icon photo in post one, the diagonal lines are part of the photo, they show on my notebook on the play store.
John.

joshnichols189 said:
It isn't as big of a deal as you're making it though.
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Yes - it is.
These companies are charging iPhone prices for phones they claim compete with them. Only Samsung have so far proven themselves in this regard.
I'm not about to pay flagship prices for what feels like an 8 year old phone pasted onto the front of a slab of aluminum.
Almost every review has touted this display as gorgeous, 'the best they've ever seen on a smartphone!' - that's bull***t, it's trash.
Seemingly there's a reason HTC is on it's way out - putting a Nokia candy-bar phone on a piece of shiny metal isn't going to change that.

Orcastar said:
My HTC One screen seems to have some kind of mesh of faint diagonal lines running across the entire screen. It's kinda hard to explain, but basically when I look at the screen up close, it looks like the background of the Steam Android icon (see attachment). The lines are especially noticeable against light, single-coloured backgrounds; for example if I go to phone settings, look at the screen up close and slowly slide up and down, the lines become apparent since they do not move along with the rest of the graphics. The lines appear to be above the actual screen but below the glass surface. It almost seems like there's some kind of crappy screen protector on the screen or that the screen was somewhat dirty with fingerprints. I should also mention that the lines do not rotate with the screen; in portrait mode, they run from the top right of the screen to the bottom left, and in landscape mode from the top left to the bottom right.
Anyone encounter something like this before? I would probably think this was normal, that I'm just seeing the pixel array when I look at the screen up close, except that I never noticed lines like these on my previous One (which I returned due to several stuck pixels) even though I scoured the screen very closely.
I want to return the phone and get a new one, but I'm worried that they won't believe or see the issue at the store...
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If you ever want to return a phone to tmobile, just tell them it's stuck in a reboot cycle and sometimes it's not. If you have an issue like the screen and they might not see the problem you see and therefore not take it back. It's better to tell them you have an issue that can't always be displayed. Like your phone just keeps rebooting, keeps turning off. I have done this many times just to return my phone.
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BigKush said:
Almost every review has touted this display as gorgeous, 'the best they've ever seen on a smartphone!'
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It really is. Why else would most people, whose job it is to review phones, say this if it weren't true?
Maybe HTC paid off all the reviewers. Or maybe you've convinced yourself there is a problem when there isn't.
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If it look like a troll and smells like a troll, then it`s a troll, poster 1 and 2 have a virtually no-existent post count, and seem just to want to bash the HTC One.

Yeah I have the time and inclination to bash a phone I just bought for myself.
XDA is almost entirely made up of boards segmented into fanboy groups who serve as nothing but a broom to sweep any perceived criticisms of their devices under the proverbial rug.
I have a low post count because I've just bought the phone and am disappointed enough to discuss it.
HOLD UP GUIS LET ME SIGN TWO-YEAR SO THAT I CAN GO STRAIGHT HOME TO XDA AND BASH IT UNNECESSARILY!
F***ing lol.
The screen is awful by 2013 flagship standards.
No I don't think reviewers are paid off directly because I'm clearly not as simple minded as the pubescent pizza faces on this board.
Reviewers are wined and dined one way or another by the industry as a whole and wouldn't dare be overall negative about a brand or phone lest they stop receiving review units or invitations to press events.
The way genuine concern and criticism is shouted down and borderline stigmatised on this board is juvenile and pathetic. The irony of you considering us trolls when seemingly you're the ones with far too much free time, imagination, and lack of time spent outside of the womb.

The lines on the screen are normal. It's on mines and a friend's.
I only see it when holding the screen at an angle after turning the display off. It's just a funny little thing that's there. When the screen is being used it looks amazing!
I woukdnt take it back over a little thing like that. It's not broken...
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You're all thinking of the horizontal bars visible behind the glass when the screen is off etc.
This is different. It's fine diagonal lines at a 45 degree angle that are constantly visible and affect the look of the screen at all times.

BigKush said:
You're all thinking of the horizontal bars visible behind the glass when the screen is off etc.
This is different. It's fine diagonal lines at a 45 degree angle that are constantly visible and affect the look of the screen at all times.
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So you knew we were thinking of something else then still decided to bash everyone here as a fanboy and proclaim your internet superiority? Pathetic. If it's not the digitizer then get an RMA. Is it that hard?

lol XDA basement dwellers
It was the digitiser. Yawn at all of you, please go outside or at least bathe.
Too bad this happened:
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BigKush said:
I am typing this on a day old HTC One with this very issue. I've been surprised not to see any other mention of it, evidently it's either a rare fault or simply inherent to this digitiser and somehow nobody is noticing or bothered by it.
I've been agonising over the choice between this phone and the S4, I eventually settled for this and haven't had such buyers remorse in memory.
The screen is not only washed, more than I was expecting upon my return to LCD, but as you say it looks as though it is wet, covered in condensation or fingerprints. The overall effect resembles almost exactly the distortion you get from condensation caused by breath or sweat on the glass.
When looking closely it reveals itself as the diagonal lines of the digitiser as you describe.
It seems to cause the 'wet' or noisy colour distortion by being half darker stripes, and half naked. Almost like a micro version of reinforced safety glass.
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Yes, this sounds exactly like the ones on my screen! Glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing this.
joshnichols189 said:
It happens. It's the digitizer and happens on phones where the LCD and Digitizer are one piece. It isn't as big of a deal as you're making it though.
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Like I mentioned in the OP, this was my second HTC One since I returned my first One due to several stuck pixels on the screen. The first one did not have these diagonal lines, as a result of which the screen looked much better than on the second One. Before returning my second One, I also went to the store and compared my One to a demo unit side by side, and the demo unit did not have this issue.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
that steam icon photo in post one, the diagonal lines are part of the photo, they show on my notebook on the play store.
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I know that. I only posted the icon to give some idea of the issue since I wasn't sure I was explaining it adequately. I never meant that there was something wrong with the Steam icon,
Tinderbox (UK) said:
If it look like a troll and smells like a troll, then it`s a troll, poster 1 and 2 have a virtually no-existent post count, and seem just to want to bash the HTC One.
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I apologise for my looks and smell, but I am no troll. I loved the HTC One for the brief period I was able to use before returning it.
RedAlertUK said:
The lines on the screen are normal. It's on mines and a friend's.
I only see it when holding the screen at an angle after turning the display off. It's just a funny little thing that's there. When the screen is being used it looks amazing!
I woukdnt take it back over a little thing like that. It's not broken...
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This is a different issue. The lines I'm describing are only visible when the screen is on.
Shortly after creating this thread, I returned my second HTC One to the store I bought it from and they sent it to HTC for servicing. It came back two weeks later with a service report saying that they had replaced one of the speakers and the SIM tray, despite the fact that I never experienced nor reported any issues with either. When I turned the phone on, I immediately noticed that the screen was exactly the same, the diagonal lines were still present. I commented about this to the salesperson and he also noticed the lines right away. He then suggested that the phone be sent back to HTC again with a more detailed explanation of the issue and apologised that the issue had not been resolved. That was a week ago, and I'm still waiting to hear back.
I'm not mad at HTC, phones can be defective and it seems that this is a rare issue. I am, however, somewhat annoyed by the fact that they replaced a speaker and the sim tray but did nothing to the screen, but hopefully they'll have a closer look at the screen this time around.

OK, now I am getting a bit mad. My phone just got back from its second two-week trip to HTC's service centre in Poland and the screen issue still hasn't been fixed. Instead, the service report says that two speaker components were swapped. This is the second time I sent my phone to them for servicing because the SCREEN is defective and the second time they mess around with SPEAKERS even though I have at no point indicated that there are any problems with the speakers. The guy at the store proved useless, his only suggestion being that they send the phone back to HTC a third time. He did, however, see the problem with the screen after I explained it to him. So I guess I have no choice but to send the phone back again and wait another two weeks for HTC to mess around with the speakers instead of actually fixing the damn screen.
So yeah, the HTC One is a great phone if you happen to get your hands on a unit that works as intended. So far I've been unable to do that.

BigKush said:
It was the digitiser. Yawn at all of you, please go outside or at least bathe.
Too bad this happened:
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BigKush said:
You're all thinking of the horizontal bars visible behind the glass when the screen is off etc.
This is different. It's fine diagonal lines at a 45 degree angle that are constantly visible and affect the look of the screen at all times.
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First you agree and then you come back, contradicting yourself and resort to insults? Gee.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
If it look like a troll and smells like a troll, then it`s a troll, poster 1 and 2 have a virtually no-existent post count, and seem just to want to bash the HTC One.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
that steam icon photo in post one, the diagonal lines are part of the photo, they show on my notebook on the play store.
John.
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Calm down, Tinderbox.
I'd like to know if anyone else is having this issue as well.

Visible pixels

Just noticed that I can visibly see the LED pixels on the screen.. Anyone else have this happen after having the phone for a bit?

It's 493ppi so seeing 1 OLED pixel seems out there even for most people. I have 20/10 vision correct with contacts and I can't see them even if I try. Maybe if I had a dead pixel I could see it, but normally I can't see anything.

My display looks like Christmas tinsel

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My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.

Pilz said:
Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.

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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I didn't have that issue on my first Nexus 6 but I did have a camera issue. My second one is excellent no issues so far. I had my first one for 7 weeks before I had to RMA it.

I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.

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I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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That's how it is when I use Mt wife's S5 it's almost annoying because I can see them sometimes when I didn't used to. That started after having my G3 for the past 7 months

So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?

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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Yes that's correct.

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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.

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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?

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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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So are you talking about seeing pixels when the screen is on or when the screen is off?
The die of the pixel arrangement will be visible under certain angle in just the right light when the screen is off.
Also, screen protectors can cause this to be amplified for sure. It all depends on the quality of that screen protector.

This characteristic is just one of those things you have to put up with when you're dealing with resolution cheating samsung crappy pentile amoled displays. I was hoping that the QHD would be enough to overcome the pentile, but that doesn't seem to be entirely the case for some.
At least (if tmo ever decides to actually ship it) it won't be as bad as my last cheating samsung amoled... a 4" 800x480.
I figured going into this, that the display would be pretty crappy. Too big, and amoled pentile... but after suffering with non-nexus devices for a few years (last one was a "nexus zero" -- ADP1...), I just don't feel like fighting with the thing, so fact of being a nexus > crappy display.

light bleed

Are you guys experiencing light bleed from the edges of your Note 8 screen. I just got my Tmobile Note 8 yesterday.

Wow...
I was hoping to god this wasn't gonna happen again.. I hated this so much with the Note 7 -_-
It isn't bad at all when the brightness is lowered, but looks absolutely disgusting when using the phone for GPS at night.
Last thing I want is for a $1500 phone to look cheap.
Apparently this is "natural" because of the glass and how it reflects light, BUT... all they had to do was wrap the black around it to block that reflective exit alone the edges.. But they didnt.
I may just take my note 8 back over this. I couldn't stand this on my note 7
OP, you should max the brightness, show a white image, and put a credit card on top of the screen and then take a picture.

Wow! I probably would have never noticed, but I do now. Thanks! I have a VZW but it doesn't seem near as bad as yours. Luckily my case covers it so I won't OCD over it, like the bubble I have in the bottom of my screen protector, going back to geek squad tomorrow. On my s7 edge I made them change it out 3 times. :angel:

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Wow! I probably would have never noticed, but I do now. Thanks! I have a VZW but it doesn't seem near as bad as yours. Luckily my case covers it so I won't OCD over it, like the bubble I have in the bottom of my screen protector, going back to geek squad tomorrow. On my s7 edge I made them change it out 3 times. :angel:
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You probably aren't noticing it because it takes a relatively bright image closer to the edge for it to appear.
View a white image with maxed brightness while covering the majority of the screen, and you will literally see a white ring around the edge of the phone.
Super damn annoying -_-

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You probably aren't noticing it because it takes a relatively bright image closer to the edge for it to appear.
View a white image with maxed brightness while covering the majority of the screen, and you will literally see a white ring around the edge of the phone.
Super damn annoying -_-
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After reading this post, I immediately took it out of the case, cranked the brightness up, turned the lights off, opened a web page, seen it! Aghhhh! On mine, it seems worst on the right side. Put it back in the case, took a shot, and now trying to forget it was ever there or my eyes will look for it every time, because it IS ANNOYING now that I KNOW it's there!

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After reading this post, I immediately took it out of the case, cranked the brightness up, turned the lights off, opened a web page, seen it! Aghhhh! On mine, it seems worst on the right side. Put it back in the case, took a shot, and now trying to forget it was ever there or my eyes will look for it every time, because it IS ANNOYING now that I KNOW it's there!
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Sorry
If it makes you feel better, its only noticeable when the brightness is at a decent level. Plus using a case will get rid of it entirely.
I'll probably whip out the microscope and apply a fine line of black paint along the edge of the glass lol.

I wonder when they're going to get rid of light bleed. I've literally had it on every device with a screen that I've ever owned.
I thought that OLED devices weren't backlit. Blah blah blah individual pixels lit. Isn't that supposed to be a selling point of OLED screens? Where does the light bleed come from?

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I wonder when they're going to get rid of light bleed. I've literally had it on every device with a screen that I've ever owned.
I thought that OLED devices weren't backlit. Blah blah blah individual pixels lit. Isn't that supposed to be a selling point of OLED screens? Where does the light bleed come from?
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It happens because the glass is still thick enough to allow light to travel along the inside and exit throughout the edges.
This is such an easy fix too, which is why I don't understand why this hasn't been fixed. All they have to do is literally wrap the glass around the edges with the same material they're using the the top and sides anyway..

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It happens because the glass is still thick enough to allow light to travel along the inside and exit throughout the edges.
This is such an easy fix too, which is why I don't understand why this hasn't been fixed. All they have to do is literally wrap the glass around the edges with the same material they're using the the top and sides anyway..
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Ahh, ok. Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. It's different than the standard LCD light bleed then.
Hopefully I won't notice it much while it's in a case.

Zero light bleed on mine.
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Are you guys experiencing light bleed from the edges of your Note 8 screen. I just got my Tmobile Note 8 yesterday.
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A blast from the past. Identical thread in the Note 7 and nearly all other forums concerning the 'edge screen design'.
It is not technically "Light bleed" That term is reserved for a phenomena (problem-fault) often common with IPS panels.
What you are seeing is......how can one write.......light escaping NOT into the screen as light bleed but light escaping from the screen.....There is a gap between the body and where the display ends, this tiny tiny tiny space, in certain situations, can indeed shine light OUT but not into the screen and there is a difference but both can be annoying IF we become OCD about it. I guess this situation is part of the edge experience? As suggested by peers, a case will stop such micro reflections or light escaping.
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Ryland Johnson said:
A blast from the past. Identical thread in the Note 7 and nearly all other forums concerning the 'edge screen design'.
It is not technically "Light bleed" That term is reserved for a phenomena (problem-fault) often common with IPS panels.
What you are seeing is......how can one write.......light escaping NOT into the screen as light bleed but light escaping from the screen.....There is a gap between the body and where the display ends, this tiny tiny tiny space, in certain situations, can indeed shine light OUT but not into the screen and there is a difference but both can be annoying IF we become OCD about it. I guess this situation is part of the edge experience? As suggested by peers, a case will stop such micro reflections or light escaping.
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So this is a known issue with Galaxy phones?
I've never experienced it with the Note 7 or currently with the Galaxy S8 plus. Is this enough to get a replacement?

Wow, this thread is like dejavu, I had to really look for it with max brightness in a dark room to find it on both my note 7's. I didn't think it was a big deal but some did. If I get the note 8 I will look for it.
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It sounds like you might have to go through more than one replacement to get one that doesn't do it.
Just for fun, I always follow the release of the new iPhone on Macrumors each year, and there's always a huge light bleed thread. I know (now) that this is something completely different than what happens with these phones.. People over there go through numerous replacements to try and get a perfect screen. Many never get one.
I will have my phone in a case from day one, so I guess that I won't see this.

Mine's good... no light bleed at all.

I am getting no light bleed at all. Turned my screen all the way up on a white screen and no light bleed.
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None on my T-Mobile variant. I put a full white image up just to be sure.
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I'm not seeing any either even with the brightness turned all the way up and various bright pictures. There's a slight change in brightness but that's to be expected with the curve but nothing like the pictures.

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So this is a known issue with Galaxy phones?
I've never experienced it with the Note 7 or currently with the Galaxy S8 plus. Is this enough to get a replacement?
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at least one guy on another forum has reported his light bleed and is getting a replacement in exchange.

So maybe some were built with more of a "gap" there than others.
The way my luck with electronic devices works, I'll definitely have it. Glad that it won't be noticeable when it's in a case. I won't even look for it, because then I'll know it's there for sure and it will bug me.