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The Dar Knight Rises lagging excessively on Optimus 2X?!

The graphics are exceptional but the lag is so bad that it hinders my gameplay significantly.
I don't understand why this is happening. The game runs perfectly smooth on an ipod toucb 4th generation; sure I know that apple has a way of making their devices run apps smoothly. I also know that optimus 2x's tegra 2 gpu chipset isn't the most powerful but it's certainly not a low end GPU either. As a result coupled with a dual core processor surely it should play very smoothly, when a device like an ipod touch with its mere 1ghz can even execute it fine.

Beplexor said:
The graphics are exceptional but the lag is so bad that it hinders my gameplay significantly.
I don't understand why this is happening. The game runs perfectly smooth on an ipod toucb 4th generation; sure I know that apple has a way of making their devices run apps smoothly. I also know that optimus 2x's tegra 2 gpu chipset isn't the most powerful but it's certainly not a low end GPU either. As a result coupled with a dual core processor surely it should play very smoothly, when a device like an ipod touch with its mere 1ghz can even execute it fine.
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Which android version/rom are you using?
ICS is known for using a lot of memory. So, there is a chance that the 512Mb of our device is not enough for using the android system + game.
If you're in ICS, I suggest you to downgrade to a rock solid CM7 GB rom. (temasek's unnoficial cm7 is just AWESOME).
I am really sad to say it, but i think our device is not capable of running ICS in a heavy use profile.

I think we need hwa driver to run those new games out there smoothly
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cool.guy said:
Which android version/rom are you using?
ICS is known for using a lot of memory. So, there is a chance that the 512Mb of our device is not enough for using the android system + game.
If you're in ICS, I suggest you to downgrade to a rock solid CM7 GB rom. (temasek's unnoficial cm7 is just AWESOME).
I am really sad to say it, but i think our device is not capable of running ICS in a heavy use profile.
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That's depressing, because i'm currently using temasek's unofficial cm7 ROM
On a side note, based on the Play Store reviews for Dark Knight Rises it looks like high end phones like the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and even the galaxy S3 experience occasional lag. Therefore i'm not entirely giving up hope of being able to play this game...
Also you say that our device has too little RAM. Once again i'll refer to the ipod touch 4th gen. It only has 256 MB of RAM and a 1gHz processor, yet my friends have shown me how TDKR runs quite smoothly on their device. I'd like to know how this is possible.
I know about smartphones' inferior gaming quality compared to portable consoles like PSP which only have 64MB of RAM and a 222mHz processor, because PSP's are specifically designed for gaming and don't have other processes that interfere with their performance. I don't think the same analogy can apply to ipod touches and android phones, because ipods are essentially mobile devices without the texting and calling capabilities. So I REALLY can't see why our phones are incapable of playing this game.

Use ramhack to have some more RAM available, overclock your processor and use the highest OTF value for the GPU if you use the Etana Kernel. You could also kill all running processes before running the game. Just make sure to have enough RAM free for the game.
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Just saying, PSP has 333 MHz
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333 mhz since 3.5 firmware.

Blazing angel said:
Just saying, PSP has 333 MHz
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Well that's nice to know. Still frustrated about this game.

mybe is the rom problem instead of ICS laggy,
i had no issue while i m in ICS, but not with the game you mention

jackn3o said:
mybe is the rom problem instead of ICS laggy,
i had no issue while i m in ICS, but not with the game you mention
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I'm sorry but I have no idea what you just said...are you suggesting that I use an ICS ROM?

Beplexor said:
That's depressing, because i'm currently using temasek's unofficial cm7 ROM
On a side note, based on the Play Store reviews for Dark Knight Rises it looks like high end phones like the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and even the galaxy S3 experience occasional lag. Therefore i'm not entirely giving up hope of being able to play this game...
Also you say that our device has too little RAM. Once again i'll refer to the ipod touch 4th gen. It only has 256 MB of RAM and a 1gHz processor, yet my friends have shown me how TDKR runs quite smoothly on their device. I'd like to know how this is possible.
I know about smartphones' inferior gaming quality compared to portable consoles like PSP which only have 64MB of RAM and a 222mHz processor, because PSP's are specifically designed for gaming and don't have other processes that interfere with their performance. I don't think the same analogy can apply to ipod touches and android phones, because ipods are essentially mobile devices without the texting and calling capabilities. So I REALLY can't see why our phones are incapable of playing this game.
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That it don't work good on the O2X can only be because of 3 things.
1. The developer have made the game primary for newer phones with more power.
2. The software on your phone don't make good use of the hardware.
3. Poorly written/bad code in the game-
That it runs fine on the PSP you seem to have a good understanding for. Good thing to mention about the PSP is that the resolution is really small compared to phones now days. But you miss the similarity to the iPod? Sure the iPod runs the "same" firmware as the iPhones. Only that when it's installed to the devices it leaves out all phone stuff(things thats ALWAYS on and use RAM).
This is also a common thing that it's nothing that people can deny. Most apps runs better on iOS then their counterpart on Android. Why? Because its easier to program for iOS. Not easier in the mean of writing the code but testing it and making sure that it runs on every or at least those devices you want. Without the need of posting a minimal requirement list like on PC's. Also goes for the PSP and every other game console, maybe I didn't need to mention that.
O yea for the record don't try ICS rom it will be a waste of time since it don't have any HW-acceleration.

lintz said:
That it don't work good on the O2X can only be because of 3 things.
1. The developer have made the game primary for newer phones with more power.
2. The software on your phone don't make good use of the hardware.
3. Poorly written/bad code in the game-
That it runs fine on the PSP you seem to have a good understanding for. Good thing to mention about the PSP is that the resolution is really small compared to phones now days. But you miss the similarity to the iPod? Sure the iPod runs the "same" firmware as the iPhones. Only that when it's installed to the devices it leaves out all phone stuff(things thats ALWAYS on and use RAM).
This is also a common thing that it's nothing that people can deny. Most apps runs better on iOS then their counterpart on Android. Why? Because its easier to program for iOS. Not easier in the mean of writing the code but testing it and making sure that it runs on every or at least those devices you want. Without the need of posting a minimal requirement list like on PC's. Also goes for the PSP and every other game console, maybe I didn't need to mention that.
O yea for the record don't try ICS rom it will be a waste of time since it don't have any HW-acceleration.
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I see...so ipod touches don't multitask either. Well that actually makes perfect sense seeing as it's iOS.
And yeah I know about the lack of HW acceleration. LG has to release ICS officially so we can get the drivers...but the hopes of getting ICS on our phone are getting dimmer by the day especially with LG canada confirming no ICS for their phones -.-
*Edit: I'm going to be bold and deny the fact O2X is not powerful enough. I just saw 2 reviews in the newest reviews for TDKR on playstore, one using HTC One X and the other Nexus 7 both complaining about horrible constant lag. If some quad core devices experience this lag, then surely it must be the dev's problem?

Beplexor said:
I see...so ipod touches don't multitask either. Well that actually makes perfect sense seeing as it's iOS.
And yeah I know about the lack of HW acceleration. LG has to release ICS officially so we can get the drivers...but the hopes of getting ICS on our phone are getting dimmer by the day especially with LG canada confirming no ICS for their phones -.-
*Edit: I'm going to be bold and deny the fact O2X is not powerful enough. I just saw 2 reviews in the newest reviews for TDKR on playstore, one using HTC One X and the other Nexus 7 both complaining about horrible constant lag. If some quad core devices experience this lag, then surely it must be the dev's problem?
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The 3D hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine on ics. So there shouldn't be a difference between ics and gb in games. Except some that are caused by less free memory in ics.
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I have CM9 Nova HD - ICS, along with Chainfire 3d with all the drivers. Still the laggy performance of TDKR.
Guess they have not made the game accordingly.
tonyp said:
The 3D hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine on ics. So there shouldn't be a difference between ics and gb in games. Except some that are caused by less free memory in ics.
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[Q] Questions about the 4X

Hi everyone,
I'm thinking about buying LG Optimus 4X and I have a few questions:
1- How is performance about of the box? Any lag?
2- Both 4X and HTC One X have the same processor, are they equal in performance? How is it compared to the S3? What would I be missing compared to both phones?
3- What about gaming? I've read that people have issues with Tegra 3 in gaming in both 4X and One X.
4- Battery life. What is the maximum screen on time with heavy usage?
5- Any news about JB update?
6- Are there any cons I should know about it before buying?
Thanks in advance, guys

My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well

friartuckme said:
My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well
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They ran well with no lagging at all?

they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source

friartuckme said:
they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source
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Tegra 3 has heating issues due to it's 40nm structure.

The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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dante501 said:
The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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4X has better performance based on experience with both devices or just assumption?

I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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dante501 said:
I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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Regarding performance, where does the 4X fall behind S3?

I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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dante501 said:
I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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Thanks that really helped

Not a problem and u will like the screen. Specially u don't have to worry about burn in and checkerboard looks when u have black backgrounds. And it performs better in sunlight then the amoleod screens do. LG really makes some of the best screens. I only wish I could put a custom rom on the 4x but the stock software is pretty ok. Do not worry about it being as a screw up like it was in the 2x. LG did a better job with that software in the 4x.
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How about Camera
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.

s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.

s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that

Thank you both. I finally decided to buy it over LG L9. Both are fabulous phones but having the flagship phone and better reviews did it for me. It should be in my hands some time this week (online ordering). Am I happy? :laugh: :highfive:
ljubisa_sk said:
1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that
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muellersmattes said:
1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.
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AW: [Q] Questions about the 4X
Then welcome to our community, you won't regret this, I think
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...

Hi,
I also about to buy this phone. I coming from MOTO RAZR xt910 and my big worry is question: Are they confirmed to unlock bootloader? Moto also promised to do so and that's why I bought RAZR, now I ended up with this phone on stock ROM.
Good thing I saw, kholk working on CM, I know him back from SE Arc forum, he doin' grat job.
Overall, I like LG design, comparing phones 3 days, I reading, watching, etc... Last 2 left:
LG 4x vs SGS3
I thing I'll get LG 4x because of design, I really don't like SGS3 shape.

i have two friends which have s3 cause it "famous" them all have crack or scract at the edge.. i think s3 just fragile when it got drop but my 4x i think hundreds of got fall of the bed got thrown seriously still none.... forget gorilla glass 2 just think about the build quality
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Actually the only difference between Gorilla Glass 1 and 2 is that 2 is thinner. They both offer the same protection.

[Q] 4X HD with 4.1.2 vs Nexus 4 advice

So recently, a pretty good deal approached me where I have a chance to sell my 4X HD and buy a nexus 4 for a reasonable amonth of money. I was pretty disappointed from the performance in games, camera quality and sound so this deal came in handy, but now when the leaked jelly bean update has been showing pretty good improvements in all ways I dont want to regret selling this phone. As I didnt even hold the nexus 4, just saw a ton of reviews, I'm asking for some advice if I should stick with the phone or change it, from some experienced users.
Do you guys think that the new update will bring much better performance and overall make it on par with the nexus 4?? What advantages would I get getting the nexus 4 in this case ( battery, screen, etc)
Thanks..

Battery is somewhat improved but still not amazing, games also improved a little, shadowgun thd for example now doesnt lag at all. Im curious to see how development goes with the unlocked bootloader, but if someone gave me a nexus 4 to swap i would. The question is how much money will you lose, and is it worth it? Personally ive always wanted a nexus phone for googles support but wouldnt pay the prices
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I find dead trigger unplayable on ultra high with this jb...
In v10h it was smooth as butter
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alekthefirst said:
I find dead trigger unplayable on ultra high with this jb...
In v10h it was smooth as butter
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Mine plays ok, just lags in first few seconds, did the same in 10h
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Take the nexus, at least then it's 100% unlockable from the get-go.

objectively: Nexus4 has just better specs than P880, right?
but i think that highly modded P880 (for example with future CM10.1 and 3.4 kernel by kholk) will catch up stocky Nexus4 a little

Nexus 4. Better specs, overwhelming support. The 4X will never catch up to the better specs of the N4. Software can only help up to a point, then hardware wins out.
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Nexus 4 is better but it depends on how much you're paying for the upgrade.

exFAT said:
Nexus 4. Better specs, overwhelming support. The 4X will never catch up to the better specs of the N4. Software can only help up to a point, then hardware wins out.
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true word.

Thnaks guys, I'll probably go for the nexus then It looks cool anyway and I like to change things from time to time I was a bit concern that it doesant have an expandeble memory, nor you can change battery , but I think 16 gigs will be okay. BTW What about the battery lifon on nexus 4. I've red a lot of pages on the nexus threads and it seems that majority is reporting not a good battery life at all, so are the reviews i've seen. But some say that it can last for 2 days with no problem.. I was pretty satisfied with the baterry life on 4x HD as after root and freezing some aps I could do 2 days no with no problem, and ti should be even bettter with jelly bean. Hope the nexus 4 wont last mi for 8 HOUrs or so as I'm used to 2 days
any personal experience ??

I think that nexus 4 is much better because it has much better hardware and awesome software support

reas0n said:
objectively: Nexus4 has just better specs than P880, right?
but i think that highly modded P880 (for example with future CM10.1 and 3.4 kernel by kholk) will catch up stocky Nexus4 a little
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Is it really possible to get 3.4 kernel unless nvidia releases sources? I doubt it since Nexus 7 running tegra 3 has only 3.1.10, I would too love to see 3.4 kernel on o4x.
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I know that every single man have problem with lagging, but trust me a quad core 1.5Ghz processor is not ment to lag at all, so I found that after changing cpu profile on my 4x HD to "performance" I got no lag in games a so, I noticed that with the default CPU profile playing games actives only ONE core .
I think that every thing will be good in the future I HOPE so

ljubisa_sk said:
I know that every single man have problem with lagging, but trust me a quad core 1.5Ghz processor is not ment to lag at all, so I found that after changing cpu profile on my 4x HD to "performance" I got no lag in games a so, I noticed that with the default CPU profile playing games actives only ONE core .
I think that every thing will be good in the future I HOPE so
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You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...

nedooo said:
You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
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I think its devs fault, some games are perfectly smooth! Shadowgun thd that lagged on ics works great on jb. The problem is devs arent making their games use multiple cores yet they are putting them on high graphics, causing lags. Whats strange is if you look at tegra phones on nvidia site the optimus 4x isnt listed. Something about LG power management must make it hard to allow multithreading in games compared to.the one x
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nedooo said:
You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
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The console Ouya is a failure???
S.O Android 4.1, Tegra 3 to 1,5ghz and 1Gb ram...
This console have games optimized.The 4X have same spects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya

WillySonicteam said:
The console Ouya is a failure???
S.O Android 4.1, Tegra 3 to 1,5ghz and 1Gb ram...
This console have games optimized.The 4X have same spects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya
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You don't have a clue do you?
First it's not same chipset: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_3#Tegra_3
Second more important there is no need for battery saver on console...
Third: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI

when comparing the nexus 4 to the p880, nobody mentioned that the p880 has 16gig and must be compared to the more expensive nexus 4, and furthermore has a micro sd card slot.
do you think its fun to have 3 games like gta vc, nfs mw and horn on the device and BAM! the memory is completely full?
not having an sd card is a complete no-go for me, and after i got rid of my iphone i really didnt want to go into such a closed world again.

LamerDuck said:
when comparing the nexus 4 to the p880, nobody mentioned that the p880 has 16gig and must be compared to the more expensive nexus 4, and furthermore has a micro sd card slot.
do you think its fun to have 3 games like gta vc, nfs mw and horn on the device and BAM! the memory is completely full?
not having an sd card is a complete no-go for me, and after i got rid of my iphone i really didnt want to go into such a closed world again.
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Ouch! It only comes in 8gb? Didnt realize that, i got my 4x for gaming
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Mahalsk said:
Thnaks guys, I'll probably go for the nexus then It looks cool anyway and I like to change things from time to time I was a bit concern that it doesant have an expandeble memory, nor you can change battery , but I think 16 gigs will be okay. BTW What about the battery lifon on nexus 4. I've red a lot of pages on the nexus threads and it seems that majority is reporting not a good battery life at all, so are the reviews i've seen. But some say that it can last for 2 days with no problem.. I was pretty satisfied with the baterry life on 4x HD as after root and freezing some aps I could do 2 days no with no problem, and ti should be even bettter with jelly bean. Hope the nexus 4 wont last mi for 8 HOUrs or so as I'm used to 2 days
any personal experience ??
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The "my phone can last 2 days with no problem" shouldn't be taken as a thuth, my p880 can last 2 days without a problem but only if i use it lightly.
You should investigate how many hours will it last when gaming, watching movies or internet and then you will know if it really worth the hassle of getting a new phone.
And by the way, if the nexus has no expandable memory then you better be sure you won't need it, i'm not the kind of guy that stores 5 full movies or even 1000 songs but with only 5 or 6 games, a few apps and like 300 songs i already got 8 GB full out of the 12 GB available on my p880.
What i would do is wait until the official release of the JB for my P880, i'm pretty sure they will fix a LOT of things in that version including gaming, internet, apps and they will unlock the BL (just be realistic and don't expect your phone to become ultra mega fast and that the battery will run for 30 days straight without charge)
This Leaked release version of Jelly bean is obviosly incomplete and with several bugs and honestly i think LG leaked this version just to get rid of the people who were trying to hack their site.
Be patient and you'll be fine.
P.S. excuse my broken english, it's not my native language.

Disappointed

I am very disappointed with this device. Since I bought this phone always had problems.
Starting from overheating when I'm playing something.
Then the side of the device begins to peel.
Then mold spots appear on the screen.
Then this whole bootloader, rom buggy, etc.
If this device was really good, I do not feel the need to change rom and make the machine go through so many updates. The handset comes with manufacturing a critical bug in the camera. Among other problems. Now I finally got my braces bad time. If I can not fix it I have to leave for Samsung.
I'm no novice user. I've had three devices of Lg.
Lg Optimus One Phone = Bug Phone.
Lg Optimus 2x = Bug Phone.
And now the Lg Optimus 4x = Hd Bug Phone.
I am seriously evaluating getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Visit the forum of this device in Xda. Hardly find complaints about it.
Lg P880 I bought this because it is cheaper, but now I find that cheap actually ends up costing too high.
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Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.

Yes, it i was like to say.
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archie87 said:
Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
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But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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Peeeling chrome.
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Yep same here the "quad core+1" tegra 3 "blazing fast" cpu is one real bad cpu to start with, it sucks for real tasks and overheats for that matter. the screen isn't like the other hd ips screens it has a yellow temperature tint unlike the others the blues look desaturated the most out of all the colors and it feels cheaply made.

xavierleonelbr said:
But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...

laufersteppenwolf said:
please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
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Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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xavierleonelbr said:
Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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that's impossible... the phone shuts itself down before that...

Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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S.M-A-RT said:
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
Sent from LG Optimus 4X HD
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i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp

Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?

I think this is the best phone for this price.many phones is the same like ours but cost too much.desighn is verry cool,we dont have many roms and kernels because we just unlocked ours bootloaders and i think we have to wait little more for more stuf.
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Play your games in the fridge! All quad cores get hot! The Samsung amoled screens are horrible! I fancy an s3 because I am a mobile gamer, but if kholks new kernel can give me the performance I was expecting then no way! Everything else about this phone is so much better than Samsung!
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If you have any problems like bubbles under the screen or excessive-myfingersareburning-overheating you should probably use your warranty and get this device checked by authorized personel. Personally, I had none of these problems you mentioned. Phone is rooted, bootloader is unlocked, CyanogenMod is happily running "under the hood". Stock ROM was pretty good for me, but CM is CM. You can't say 'no' to CM. If you don't like this phone, then sell it. Note 2 is indeed a powerful device, I'm sure that you'll be happy with it. But! This phone has yet to show its true power through custom ROMs and kernels. My old 2010 flagship - HTC Desire - got ROM with JB and Touchwiz5 powered by awesome custom kernel, so I really have no doubts that our O4X, which is 10 times stronger than Desire, will get some sick modifications sooner or later (starting with EternityProject kernel and CM 10.1). Cheers! :highfive:

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Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
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yeah another one i think we been through a lot right reas0n
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I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....

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i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
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I know, I look at temperature shown in hidden menu > cpu usage.
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My last phone was a One X and this is on a par at least with that, except in gaming until I at least hope custom kernels will change that.
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JoinTheRealms said:
I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
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the bubbles are like a user posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246826

Does the Xperia SP normally can handle all the high end games?

Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..

4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.

cabba403 said:
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Klaudas said:
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
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The problem is on your end. I was with stock ROM for over a month before switching to Custom ROM and I had no issues what so ever. Please don't spread false information.

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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.

Klaudas said:
Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...

eSu.Matix said:
Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Can you make few SS for me after 24h[ofcourse no reboots]?. If you have more than 10-15 apps installed like me you won't get that amount of ram left after 24h~. No way.

as if certain user experiences would be a lie.

So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?

cabba403 said:
So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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With stock rom you won't be able to play high end games without reboots for free ram. If you have time for flashing custom roms everything fine! But if you want to stay with stock I suggest you to buy LG L90 for example.

I wouldnt buy this phone in your place (I wish I hadn't bought it for myself too)

cabba403 said:
So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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In it's price range it's the best phone specs wise.
Moto G is a worth buy as well, but it has Adreno 305 which is about twice as slow as our Adreno 320. If you like gaming Xperia SP is the best buy, however it reached it's EOL so you must rely on custom ROMs for further software updates. While Moto G will receive Android L for sure, and I'm pretty sure Motorola will keep maintaining it at less till the end of 2015 since the new Moto G 2014 is pretty similar to the Moto G 2013. But still Moto G's LTE model with SD Card cost more, so you must put this in consideration as well. Going with either phone, you will be pretty pleased. But if I had to buy a new phone now and I had ~150€ to spend I will definitely go with Xperia SP.
P.S.: I have both phones.

Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?

cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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Rear camera is quite decent. Here are few threads with shots from it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/themes-apps/post-photo-xperia-sp-t2823275
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304148

check it
cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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this is phone is supposedly great but, as other user mention, the RAM is lacking so it makes it lagging. Sure some games run fine. but try playing real racing 3 with no modifications. it'll burn your battery (doesn't literally burn it, i just mean really hot) and it often lags.
camera wise, it depends on preference. for me this camera sometimes get awesome results outdoor, but it has same problem with many xperia phone. lots of noise if u zoom.
if u have time, read my 1 year review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778795

The SP's gaming performance is pretty decent - and great for the price. If you're looking to get some idea of what 2D and 3D GPU performance is when choosing a new phone, searching for Antutu benchmarks isn't a bad place to start.
As for the camera, passable outdoors (but noisy), worthless indoors. Mine has even started taking out of focus pictures, even after half pressing camera button to focus first. Might be something to do with the len's protective film being removed (due to scratches)

The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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carlfinity said:
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment

TechnoSparks said:
Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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carlfinity said:
Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know

TechnoSparks said:
Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
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That makes it seem ironic, does 4 cores draw more power compared with our dual core? I believe so, since newer Sony models have more or less 2.0 ghz clock speed. I still can't believe those devices felt less hotter given the power that they carry. Anyways, this is just my observation that I hope will benefit the soon to be owners of this device.