I just upgraded from a Galaxy Tab (original) to a Nexus 7, and while most everything else is a sweet upgrade, scrolling has become a consistently frustrating experience.
On my Galaxy Tab (Gingerbread), scrolling is simple and intuitive. I "flick" my finger across the screen and it scrolls fast (even if it might be too fast sometimes) and the inertia continues the way I would expect (more like Froyo as opposed to iOS), and swiping scrolls as fast as I swipe no matter how long I press my finger to the screen. However, on the Nexus 7, if I flick, sometimes it flicks fast, sometimes it flicks very slow, and sometimes it comes to a dead stop when I release my finger. If I swipe, it behaves better, but doesn't seem to go the speed of my finger unless I hold it down longer. I feel like a little kid trying to get a toy to work. It's not intuitive, and I'm not sure if the problem is the design of Jelly Bean or the Nexus 7's hardware, or the device has a manufacturing defect. As a comparison, the homescreens flick and swipe appropriately most of the time. Apps seem to have the same scrolling frustrations for me as the browser and settings lists.
Can someone tell me how Jelly Bean is supposed to work with flicking and swiping? What about in apps like Chrome, games like Devil's Attorney, or settings lists? Also, the homescreens.
If can adjust Android's default scrolling speed and inertia (and swiping and flicking responsiveness) through root, I'll do that, but I'm not sure there's anything else I can do before that.
Just saw this today, have not tried it yet myself but it sounds like this is what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082060
Nexus 7 touch response FIX
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Hi, there's one thing I don't like in the galaxy note: I noticed that the scrolling speed of lists or any screen isn't natural, it's faster than my finger.
Probably Samsung did it because it has a wide screen so we don't need to make too wide gestures, but I don't like it. I have big hands and I would prefer a natural scrolling speed (1x).
Is there a way to achieve this?
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just got my razr i here in the uk. love the device so far. fantastic form factor and importantly for me, a superb battery life one things nagging me though...is anyone else seeing a slight 'jerky' animation? i see it when swiping left to the 'quick settings' screen and when pressing the apps button. once in the apps though the left <> right swiping is perfect! pressing the home button from the home screen to show 'manage pages' too is pretty jerky or laggy but not sure if that is how it should be this guy sees it initailly when starting the game just before 4.00 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILUVIwiNF0
but once the game is running all seems ok. this guy i can see it at 1.57 when he swipes left from the homescreen to the 'quick settings'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rfud0GFXRg&feature=related
seems like it occurs when at some places within the phone but not everywhere. have i been spoilt using a nexus for the past week running a silky smooth jellybean vs this running ics? or is it a defective unit?
I would say on mine there is the slightest pause when moving to the quick settings that I hadn't noticed before! I hope it doesn't bug me now!!
Going to the manage pages screen or indeed the "helicopter view" (pinch zoom on the homescreen) is really jerky. But I dont find any noticeable lag or jerkiness anywhere else. In fact I find the whole experience smoother and slicker than even my Nexus 7. The only better Android experience I had was Jelly Bean on the Galaxy Nexus which is super silky.
Jelly Bean is slightly faster at a number of things especially switching screen context as the CPU is ramped to a high clock speed as soon as you touch the screen. I noticed the improvement in opening things like the app drawer when I had my Galaxy Nexus and upgraded to JB.
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I would say on mine there is the slightest pause when moving to the quick settings that I hadn't noticed before! I hope it doesn't bug me now!!
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ooops sorry about that! :laugh:well i've adjusted both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off and that certainly speeds the whole ics experience up so that is worth doing if you have not. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
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ooops sorry about that! :laugh:well i've adjusted both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off and that certainly speeds the whole ics experience up so that is worth doing if you have not. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
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Does that not disbale animations?
don't think so. just seems to speed things up a touch.
This does indeed deactivate some Animations but only the ones Navigating in Apps or Settings and so on.
The actual Launcher Animation is not changed at all.
I have the same lag and its not so bad but still somehow annoying.
Didn't noticed that so much in all the test videos out there.
Someone tried to do a hard reset and start from scratch? Maybe fixes it.
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Does that not disbale animations?
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I noticed really jerky animations on an M I saw at a Verizon kiosk, and the i seems to be fine from videos I see.
I thought this was originally a product if poor sensors. But it wasn't. Then I thought it was a bug. Updates went by, then I saw that wasn't the case either. It just seems to be a "feature".
This feature is really beginning to annoy me! Can anyone tell me why it takes about two seconds before the screen rotates in stock Android. My G.Nex takes about the same time. I'm guessing any remedy involves rooting, which is annoying. I'm rooted, I just don't think this should be necessary for people to do (IF it's necessary).
Can anyone shed light on this?
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Actually if it rotates in less than a second it'll be more annoying trust me. Like if you are typing and just tilt your device a little bit, it'll be a disaster right? I don't know however if you can modify this.
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Aokp and others allow you to change this. Many roms have a shorter rotation speed. They actually did quicken it, 4.0 was really slow. Yes its a feature.
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Quite fast considering what it has to do.
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Actually if it rotates in less than a second it'll be more annoying trust me. Like if you are typing and just tilt your device a little bit, it'll be a disaster right? I don't know however if you can modify this.
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I agree with this.. The feature is there to prevent you from rotating the screen by accident. Say using the cam in video chat while holding the device in your hand.. While typing and walking around..
Not sure why this is such a bother to you Not everything should be Instant.If it were instant you would also see the screen refresh as its turning the icons..
the ui . would have to turn resize screen background re position the icons and the notification/ now settings menu all in a fraction of a second. The delay helps with my first sentence as well as gives the Interface to make necessary changes for the new orientation.. Good things come to those who wait..
The rotation pause time is perfect for me.
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I agree with this.. The feature is there to prevent you from rotating the screen by accident. Say using the cam in video chat while holding the device in your hand.. While typing and walking around..
Not sure why this is such a bother to you Not everything should be Instant.If it were instant you would also see the screen refresh as its turning the icons..
the ui . would have to turn resize screen background re position the icons and the notification/ now settings menu all in a fraction of a second. The delay helps with my first sentence as well as gives the Interface to make necessary changes for the new orientation.. Good things come to those who wait..
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If anyone has used the iPad, other iDevice or some other non-stock Android devices, the rotation delay is only about half a second and smooth. There is no confusion or constant accidental rotations, it's responsive rather than intentionally slow. Plus, I really don't think too many people accidentally rotate their devices too many times.
Another example is that with my N7, JB 4.2, rooted but stock, It can take up to 4 seconds to rotate on the PIN secured lock screen. In what way is this useful?
Its less than one second on my stock 4.2...
The rotation speed seems much longer on 4.2 than it did on 4.1.2. I noticed the difference immediately after updating.
You can play with the 3 screen animation parameters - they are located in setup under the developers section about half way down the page.
-Window animation scale
-Transition animation scale
-Animation duration scale
These parameters affect the speed at which the display dims and brightens, rotates and transitions..
If you set the 3 parameters to zero, you get a binary effect on all animations - in other words, a single step from one position/brightness/orientation to the next.
I found that you may have to reboot the device (or restart the window manager?) for any changes to take effect.
Hope this helps.
I installed the Jelly Bean update and immediately noticed the scrolling is different.
There's 2 ways to scroll, you can put your finger down and drag it where the page moves in sync with your finger, or you can flick it and let it coast up a bit.
If you want to scroll 1 page by dragging, you have to move your finger the entire height of the screen. If you scroll through hundreds of pages that becomes way too much repetitive work and hurts your hand.
Luckily there's some roller physics like the page is on wheels, so if you drag a little then let go it won't just stop, but will coast a little further then decelerate to a stop.
Then if you do a faster little flick, you can cause the page to scroll 1 whole height by moving your finger a much smaller distance. Then if you wanted to scroll hundreds of pages, instead of dragging the full height, you can use smaller flicks to move from page to page.
But in Jelly Bean, it didn't work that way. It felt like the page was heavier, with more friction, where when you let go from dragging it didn't coast much and slowly decelerate, it was very abrupt coming to a halt and didn't move beyond where you let go.
Then if I did a tiny flicking motion like I always do to change pages, it didn't work. It moved only a small amount, not a page, and it didn't coast where I could then keep flicking it to make it quickly scroll through.
It was like the friction was up, and in order to fling you needed to use more distance and speed, and then it would just go quickly really far. In ICS it was more sensitive, with more variation in between, where you had finer control over how far it rolled.
JB was like the wheels were all rusted and barely wanted to turn, so you're trying to push this shopping cart like it's a huge brick where you have to scoot it with each push and it's not rolling.
I tried a complete reset, I tried editing the build.prop properties for min and max fling velocity, and I tried the latest release from another country, but it was the same. So I flashed ICS back on, and immediately it was so much smoother and less effort to scroll through many pages.
Anyone else notice that? The global scroll physics in JB changed. It's not just some apps, it's everything, including the settings pages. I was surprised I didn't see anyone mentioning it, since just trying to use it for a short while cramped up my hand.
And this is called lagging, I assume. All note users of jb roms complaining about.
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Lag has to do with speed of response. I saw that too. Like when I pulled down the top menu drawer I could see the buttons at the top drawing in chunks, instead of instantly appearing and animating smoothly. Scrolling in general could be choppy, and the whole interface felt sluggish.
But this is different. This is settings in the physics. The Android views have friction settings (like getScrollFriction()), and I assumed Samsung modified them from how they were for ICS.
Besides the heavier friction and less sensitivity for flings, it'd also mess up when trying to scroll. Very often I'd just do a normal attempt to scroll down a webpage a little with a short movement down, and it'd instead go up! The opposite direction.
ICS doesn't do that, and everything is much faster feeling, more sensitive. Which was surprising because the main reason why I wanted to upgrade was for the "butter" thing where it was supposed to feel smoother.
The home screen seemed smooth though. Well, after it loaded fully. There was a delay, when it paused and waited for all the icons to preload, and then once it did it started moving again and was smooth. But before that it was chunky.
I was hoping someone knew if there was a configuration file to modify those global friction settings. I don't know if you can set friction in build.prop, the fling settings didn't seem to do much if anything. That wouldn't fix the lag, but it'd be better if the physics were the same as ICS.
That's the first thing I noticed when I upgraded from ICS to JB.
It felt like flingy. It felt much more anchored.
I think it's 'project butter'.
Hi all,
As title suggests really, I noticed on my Note 8 that swiping to the app draw and back produces bit of a delay/glitch when flicking between the two, even on high performance mode - Does anyone else have this?
Really annoying as the rest of the device is very smooth but at the minute, my old S6 Edge Plus on android 7 feels just as quick to use, which is disappointing.
The latest update to the launcher on the S8 got rid of that lag and added the ability to pull down notifications with the a swipe down motion anywhere on the home screens. It looks like the launcher on the Note 8 is a little behind so hopefully we'll get that update soon.
I use Nova with no lag.
I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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Odd you mention that as mine is completely stock and I first noticed this when I first turned it on, so I hadn't even started installing my own apps yet.
Maybe I should re-flash it and see if that'll help.