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How can we set up our HTC Sensation XL for Dual Boot?
whats is the dual boot?
when we can install 2 roms and choose which one we want to boot,f.e. you use your daily rom and can test a new a new rom at the same time on the same device
call me a little bit realistic, but hardly seems worth any dev working on this when we only really have 3 different based roms ICS + sense/ ICS built on htc framework and Stock GB based roms....
Takes 2 mins to flash a rom......
And everytime setting all the widgets and the apps on the homescreens, setting up the accounts etc
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you can make backups of two roms , and anytime you want to boot to the other rom you can restore it's backup back. ;-)
With which app?
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hitchmontana said:
With which app?
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When in recovery with CWM go to back and restore and back up
It will backup your current ROM as it is. You should do this as common practice before installing new ROMs.
Dual is not for booting different android builds but for booting different os on same phone. This is not a hd2 capable of running multiple os at same time. No need for dual boot for purely android builds flashed to nand partition. If we had an sdcard slot could boot android off nand or sdcard via dual boot. Can't flash 2 different android builds to one nand partition
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hitchmontana said:
when we can install 2 roms and choose which one we want to boot,f.e. you use your daily rom and can test a new a new rom at the same time on the same device
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How can dual boot enable that? U can't flash 2 roms to one nand partition dude so nothing to dual boot.
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shingers5 said:
How can dual boot enable that? U can't flash 2 roms to one nand partition dude so nothing to dual boot.
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I'm not very good in explaining in english
I just ment that i can choose when the phone boots which rom I want to boot. Does we have to partitions one nand and one for user data? can't we the partition for user data partitionate?
It's been done on the desire HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173309
One ROM on nand and one on sd
For the xl you'd have to use the built in storage
Would be pretty handy to have a work install and a private
Edit: obviously don't try the desire HD one on the xl
Johnston411 said:
It's been done on the desire HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173309
One ROM on nand and one on sd
For the xl you'd have to use the built in storage
Would be pretty handy to have a work install and a private
Edit: obviously don't try the desire HD one on the xl
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2 os on the same device wouldnt affect the processor?
Loushi said:
2 os on the same device wouldnt affect the processor?
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Mate it isn't about the processor. As I said we have no sdcard on xl so its rather pointless. You cannot dual.boot 2 roms off same nand partition as you for one will corrupt it and as its only so big you will find it hard to fit both on. It's a bad idea to even consider it. Like I said on hd2 which runs multiple os its possible as wp7 and android and wm6.5 and linux etc all off one phone. On desire hd one on nand and one on sdcard. We have no such luxury of an sdcard. Running multiple os on one nand partition is dangerous. You would have to partition the nand and hope to get both on and need dual boot manager etc. Dangerous on this phone and unwise
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Mate it isn't about the processor. As I said we have no sdcard on xl so its rather pointless. You cannot dual.boot 2 roms off same nand partition as you for one will corrupt it and as its only so big you will find it hard to fit both on. It's a bad idea to even consider it. Like I said on hd2 which runs multiple os its possible as wp7 and android and wm6.5 and linux etc all off one phone. On desire hd one on nand and one on sdcard. We have no such luxury of an sdcard. Running multiple os on one nand partition is dangerous. You would have to partition the nand and hope to get both on and need dual boot manager etc. Dangerous on this phone and unwise
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yeah i know, im just asking about the processor of the DHD
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Loushi said:
yeah i know, im just asking about the processor of the DHD
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Well its 1ghz single core chip. It has a sdcard slot which makes so much difference. HTC one x also has no sdcard. In essence you could use internal sdcard but if any data corruption your phone is ****ed. Sdcards can be replaced remember lol
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shingers5 said:
Well its 1ghz single core chip. It has a sdcard slot which makes so much difference. HTC one x also has no sdcard. In essence you could use internal sdcard but if any data corruption your phone is ****ed. Sdcards can be replaced remember lol
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anyway as spidermahn said, it takes 2 mins to flash a backup to another rom
not that big deal! lol
Loushi said:
anyway as spidermahn said, it takes 2 mins to flash a backup to another rom
not that big deal! lol
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Lol it was a good worthy conversation. Bit of a changeup for this really quiet forum.
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Mate it isn't about the processor. As I said we have no sdcard on xl so its rather pointless. You cannot dual.boot 2 roms off same nand partition as you for one will corrupt it and as its only so big you will find it hard to fit both on. It's a bad idea to even consider it. Like I said on hd2 which runs multiple os its possible as wp7 and android and wm6.5 and linux etc all off one phone. On desire hd one on nand and one on sdcard. We have no such luxury of an sdcard. Running multiple os on one nand partition is dangerous. You would have to partition the nand and hope to get both on and need dual boot manager etc. Dangerous on this phone and unwise
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There are ways around it, but like you said it's not worth it IMO. just for the record, one way around it would be to load 2nd OS directly into memory. obviously it would need to be a fairly small build like AOSP.
Boot Manager
Guys, i read the first post only & not sure if some one else has already pointed it out.
We can have multiple ROMs installed on our XL via Boot Manager..
I was using this wonderful app on my Desire HD & recently made it work for Sensation XL along with the Boot Manager team ofcourse..
You wont find our device listed there BUT it is working for sure...
Does anyone have the advanced power menu that works with the ics Roms. The ony one I can find in the dev section doesn't work
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FCW said:
Does anyone have the advanced power menu that works with the ics Roms. The ony one I can find in the dev section doesn't work
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The APM will depend on the base of the rom and framework too not just the OS version. If the rom your using uses the latest base, maybe one of the three musketeers has a apm.zip, you should ask
APM from 3m don't working very well on new base. ;/
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APM from 3m don't working very well on new base. ;/
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thats prob because of bens modifed framework. You could try taking the framework files (Framework-res/ Htc.resources.apk/Android.policy.jar) and systemUI from insanely cool sence. But you might as well just be using the rom then
yeah but than you can't lock screen whit 3rd party ;/
For last 2 days my bluetooth is not working, not able to send or receive any type of files.Anyone please help me to sort out this issue.
viveknath322 said:
For last 2 days my bluetooth is not working, not able to send or receive any type of files.Anyone please help me to sort out this issue.
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We need more info. What rom are you using? Did it just stop without you install or flashed anything?
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anders3408 said:
We need more info. What rom are you using? Did it just stop without you install or flashed anything?
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I noticed this problem only two days back. Last week I installed only Go task manager and uninstalled yesterday.
Android version : 4.0.3
Kernel version : 3.0.16-ge946e68
I don't know what ROM I'm using, can you please help me to find that?
viveknath322 said:
I noticed this problem only two days back. Last week I installed only Go task manager and uninstalled yesterday.
Android version : 4.0.3
Kernel version : 3.0.16-ge946e68
I don't know what ROM I'm using, can you please help me to find that?
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Go to settings, in button you will find about, go to software , I cant remember correct name, and tell me what it says
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I installed a ROM and forgot to do a backup before, i know, i know... Where could i find an original version of the software for North America, Canada ? Tried HTC sync but it wont see the phone when connected even after installing and reinstalling numerous times. I have CMW installed, so all i need is a flashable version of the software.
Thanks
Hummm is this section still alive?
I think you should to know your cid
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Look in developer section
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ok found it thanks
I've recently been dealing with Linux, I actually quite like it, so I heard its possible to install on android, and as I followed these steps, ubuntu boots up, but no application logos, almost everything crashed and is really laggy...
I would like to know is anyone doing a bug fix for SXL or is it just tough luck for us?
By the way I've read all the post on sensation do and yous devs a sweet! Goodwork!
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ricky310711 said:
I've recently been dealing with Linux, I actually quite like it, so I heard its possible to install on android, and as I followed these steps, ubuntu boots up, but no application logos, almost everything crashed and is really laggy...
I would like to know is anyone doing a bug fix for SXL or is it just tough luck for us?
By the way I've read all the post on sensation do and yous devs a sweet! Goodwork!
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Well, JB is a priority for now, don't know if we will ever work on bringing ubuntu to the phone, eventually Ubuntu Phone.
But untill we have JB up an running, i don't think we will work on that, but who knows, thanks for the ideea.
Really? JB for.do is finally out? could you post a link for it?
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ricky310711 said:
Really? JB for.do is finally out? could you post a link for it?
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It's not out yet, but it's work in progress i don't like to give ETA's, but i think next week will be ready for a BETA release, that meaning most of the stuff working.
Are you the one porting it?
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ricky310711 said:
Are you the one porting it?
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We are a whole team behind this, the new team is called RunnyCM and the main members that are actively working on this are:
Lexmazter (me)
anders
Zasuk
Great work from all of them, the credits section will be BIG after we release this, we seeked out help from many devs, this is like a dream come true.
For more details, don't hesitate to join our irc channel, you can find it in my signature.
That's great!! And a wonderful team yous are!
How is jb going? What bugs can we expect so far?
Any unresolvable problems yous have encountered?
Oh and how the **** did yous become so good at developing? I've learn a lot from home, I get the language but most is all too tricky :/
Any tips you could advise me with? Good forums written by legends such as yourself?
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ricky310711 said:
That's great!! And a wonderful team yous are!
How is jb going? What bugs can we expect so far?
Any unresolvable problems yous have encountered?
Oh and how the **** did yous become so good at developing? I've learn a lot from home, I get the language but most is all too tricky :/
Any tips you could advise me with? Good forums written by legends such as yourself?
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Well as for bugs, we still don't have WiFi working, camera is not working at all at one rom and on another one camera recording is not working.
BT is still work in progress, but it works on one rom and will be fixed soon.
MIC is our biggest problem for now, other than that, everything works, rotation, 3d acceleration, sensors, GPS, 3g/signal, SDcard, sounds - speakers, mount USB and probably i forgot the rest.
Not bad!
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Just to share with you guys. After having compiled and testing then compiled and testing again and again I feel like having a new phone when it is running. I loved this phone from the beginning and at that time it was just a great phone, but then all other devices have other ROMs than only sense ROMs as we have and I was bored about it. I keep thinking, perhaps this phone was to slow to be a great device, until I first time flashed jelly bean. No matter if it was Codefirex or Evervolv or CM10.1 all running either android 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 I've tested the whole phone was just much more fast and nice to use. I can assure you that this will be a revolution for sensation xl
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Just to share with you guys. After having compiled and testing then compiled and testing again and again I feel like having a new phone when it is running. I loved this phone from the beginning and at that time it was just a great phone, but then all other devices have other ROMs than only sense ROMs as we have and I was bored about it. I keep thinking, perhaps this phone was to slow to be a great device, until I first time flashed jelly bean. No matter if it was Codefirex or Evervolv or CM10.1 all running either android 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 I've tested the whole phone was just much more fast and nice to use. I can assure you that this will be a revolution for sensation xl
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Sounds great!! I love our device, too. I think it's also the best looking device What can you tell me about the battery consumption?
I'm really excited about the JB ROMs, I really wished I could help with developing but I'm just at the basics of it :S
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Rachorid said:
Sounds great!! I love our device, too. I think it's also the best looking device What can you tell me about the battery consumption?
I'm really excited about the JB ROMs, I really wished I could help with developing but I'm just at the basics of it :S
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Personally I have not tested battery drain at all, the last 2-3 weeks my xl has been connected to the machine I compiles on did a testrum yesterday with evervolv so when I get home I will charge phone fully and just let it run until it is dead, in idle state then we will have some idea about if it is good or bad
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Just to share with you guys. After having compiled and testing then compiled and testing again and again I feel like having a new phone when it is running. I loved this phone from the beginning and at that time it was just a great phone, but then all other devices have other ROMs than only sense ROMs as we have and I was bored about it. I keep thinking, perhaps this phone was to slow to be a great device, until I first time flashed jelly bean. No matter if it was Codefirex or Evervolv or CM10.1 all running either android 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 I've tested the whole phone was just much more fast and nice to use. I can assure you that this will be a revolution for sensation xl
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well i am really glad to hear that! any chance of ota update within your jellybean ROM?
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ricky310711 said:
well i am really glad to hear that! any chance of ota update within your jellybean ROM?
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Do you mean like my miui rom, an ota app? Or do you mean official its jellybean?if it is the first part, perhaps yes, that function should be added to all custom rom, but an official ota update from HTC does I not think we resive
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Do you mean like my miui rom, an ota app? Or do you mean official its jellybean?if it is the first part, perhaps yes, that function should be added to all custom rom, but an official ota update from HTC does I not think we resive
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hopefully! maybe for your next project you should make an app specified for SXL to update you rom?
ricky310711 said:
hopefully! maybe for your next project you should make an app specified for SXL to update you rom?
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the app used in miui rom is just the original ota app compiled from source.
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the app used in miui rom is just the original ota app compiled from source.
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but sat we go to update the software in settings>aboutphone>software updates is there a chance you could create a server for ported updates and set the defaul to download it from the server? therefore allowing ota updates on a unlocked phone?
ricky310711 said:
but sat we go to update the software in settings>aboutphone>software updates is there a chance you could create a server for ported updates and set the defaul to download it from the server? therefore allowing ota updates on a unlocked phone?
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That is what OTA update center is for , and i have included that in my MIUI rom and it is working just fine. You can see what i am talking about here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29501085
and i also think that we will put it in that way it is much easy for all to get the updates for future jellybeans, But with that app it will only allow you to get updates from the rom you are using. So if you are using Codefirex you will not see updates from Evervolv.
But in theory, it is possible to edit ota update center app, so it is used when going via settings --> about phone --> Software updates.
If a developer adds the app to a rom, just out of the box, no edit to it, it will come like a seperat app you are opening to see if there is an update, or it will do it automaticly.
Also you cant as an user download the app and then use it , it has to be put in by the developer.
It is infact pretty simple to get working :
1. Download the latest version of the app from our GitHub page.
2. Put the app in /system/app of your ROM.
3. Pick a ROM ID that you will use in our database. This should have no spaces and preferably be all-lowercase.
4. Add the following properties to your build.prop:
---otaupdater.otaid=<ROM ID you picked from previous step>
---otaupdater.otatime=<Date/time of this build in yyyymmdd-hhmm format>
---otaupdater.otaver=<The human-readable version number/name>
5. Package your ROM, generate an MD5 of the zip file, and upload it somewhere.
6. Add/update your ROM in our database. You will need the ROM ID you picked, the device you packaged for, and the URL and MD5 of the zip file.
For further updates, just make sure you update the otatime and otaver properties in build.prop
It amazes me what yous people can do!
Any news on a beta release date? So keen to try jb!
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I think we are all the same when you'll see ubuntu, guys are working on JB, and will JB (CM10.1), will be soon also ubuntu....good luck