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So the time has passed. Updates have come(?). Overall are you happy with your Lg 2x? I am certainly not.
I am not happy with my 2X. Battery drain so quickly, looking for upgrade for iPhone 5 after possibly it gets launch in October or November.
Bought mine in march 2011. If you asked me this in april last year, i would have said yes.
But now, NO! I almost hate my phone, waiting for the SGS3 to be available.
i am wondering why aren't you happy..
i got my phone very cheap and i couldn't get near the specs even with double the money. I am running CM9 and even in this not finished state it runs smoothly and the battery lasts 2 days easy
Why in particular are you unhappy?
the stock froyo was crap, i'd agree with that. but since I'm running cm9, the phone is incredibly smooth and battery life is also great.
just curious
Batterylife is terrible! signal is very unstable when on 3G. I paid full price, i preordered it. I admit, i use the phone alot. Not playing games, but surfing, email, all the stuff a smartphone is smart at. But most of the time it is sitting in the charger. Off screen 0,5%-1%/hour.
If i got it for 250€ then i would be satisfied. I paid too much when comparing it to other phone just a month after.
I did not have reboots or black screens of death the first couple of months. It started to be very annoying in the beginning of this year.
I am quite happy with my o2x, just got it very recently(You might ask why with all the new phones coming out etc, well this phone was much cheaper than any other dual core phone/phone with similar hardware and it seemed to have decent support on here which it does). I am running CM9 on it and it is very smooth, sure battery life isn't too great, but it isn't too bad. Not sure why people are unhappy with it besides the battery life, but honestly you won't get that much better on most other phones. Perhaps it is because you got it for quite a expensive price when it was first released and expected more or something or you are comparing it to newer, more expensive phones?
There currently are satisfied with this phone.
I have not had problems, I had installed many custom rom on it.
The only thing that bothers me is support from LG on the update.
I got it through a series of trades, overall money spent: 150€ ~ 200$
For that price it is a great phone but i don't like it very much. Stock firmware is ugly and updates are slow. With custom roms it is a very nice phone, very smooth and with high battery performance.
On the other side i don't like soft touch buttons (too much space occupied) and the overall design (iphone-like)
Very happy with my phone, i bought it in may or june on contract with Orange and it works out that the phone cost me £168... bargain as you would struggle to get something like a wildfire for that price back then!. But i would be even happier if we had ICS officially now and actually had resources to work with so even better third party roms could be made.
Sometimes i do feel that i just WANT to leave the custom ROM area, sometimes i do just want my phone to WORK it works most of the time but theres a fair amount of slow downs and it can get annoying, but value for money i cant fault it!.
u guys compplaining about the o2x, but i can tell you, my friend has a sgs2 and its battery life is far worse than mine, funny if u consider mine is clocked 200 mhz higher than his and theyr both tegra 2. plus i have never even seen a sgs2 even get close to an o2x, even in every benchmark o2x wins by far especialy in graphics, btw ill leave you some screenshots so u can take your own conclusions. btw, this is only my view not sayinng its an absolute truth but still its awesome to see sgs2 oc'd to 1.5 ghz lose in performance to a 1.4 ghz o2x XD
It is a good phone for apps but the odd radio issues still baffle me.
Data can't be reactivated after being disabled for some time.
GPS, Bluetooth and 3G seems to have some warfare, the radio crashes sometimes when i use my A2DP with maps.
And for most people these issues probably will never happen for them.
EDIT: Another thing to add is that the built quality is great, i like the curved glass edges and the camera is really good.
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It is a good phone for apps but the odd radio issues still baffle me.
Data can't be reactivated after being disabled for some time.
GPS, Bluetooth and 3G seems to have some warfare, the radio crashes sometimes when i use my A2DP with maps.
And for most people these issues probably will never happen for them.
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well, i gotta tell you, im one of those people... XD i never use 3g, only use data if some1 sends me an mms, but i turn it off as soon as i get it, and i always uninstall google maps and all gps related softare coz i simply dont need em, i got 3 gps devices plus the only time i used the gps on the o2x it ate my battery like there was no tomorrow XD
I'm quite happy with my o2x. Running self kang cm7 stable as rock with good battery life. Tonns of features ....
I'm gonna sit till cm9 comes with hwa. Till then cm7 still my daily driver.
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u guys compplaining about the o2x, but i can tell you, my friend has a sgs2 and its battery life is far worse than mine, funny if u consider mine is clocked 200 mhz higher than his and theyr both tegra 2. plus i have never even seen a sgs2 even get close to an o2x, even in every benchmark o2x wins by far especialy in graphics, btw ill leave you some screenshots so u can take your own conclusions. btw, this is only my view not sayinng its an absolute truth but still its awesome to see sgs2 oc'd to 1.5 ghz lose in performance to a 1.4 ghz o2x XD
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Man both phones are clocked to 1.5ghz not only the sgs2
Also you are running cm, whilst galaxy s 2 is running stock
In same conditions i don't know who wins
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Apart lg sucky support and update the phone is good and im happy with it but i would buy another lg device considering lgs reputation now, might go with huawei new quad core device.
Yes
Yes, i've just installed CM9 on my 2x and it's working great.
I've paid a very low price for this phone and i couldn't expect anything better for that price, at least here in Brazil.
The phone has some bugs, such as loss of signal and battery drain, but it's nothing that makes me hate the phone
Nah, I can't say I am happy with my 2X. ****ty LG support which results in bad performance despite good hardware. Very fast battery drain. Random shutdowns oder sleeps of death where I have to take battery out.
The phone (O2X) rocks, its just that the company "LG" sucks (BIG TIME)
As many have stated, it is comparitively cheaper than its competitors having similar or better specs, we're just let down on the software department thanks to LG but even then with great developers around here, it just makes it on par with the rest.
Been using MIUI till recently and now Temasek's ROM, its running really great and I'm glad to have such support from these devs around.
Basically the bad support and sub-sub optimal stock ROM makes the phone crappy. Hardware-wise it's great.
It doesn't look like anyone has posted the full review yet, so here you go.
Anandtech Review
Turns out the issue with performance was actually due to new drivers, which allow for the full suite of benchmarks to be run. As a result, the CPU gets throttled after all that torture testing.
The new benchmarks, done without running the full suite, are posted in the review.
OMG. The battery life IS atrocious. Lol.
Yeah the battery really is bad. Its the most concerning issue right now for me as I debate whether or not to pull the trigger on this. My biggest concern is the cellular talk time and the wifi hotspot time. Those things can't really be blamed on the cpu thermal throttling issues as neither are CPU intensive tasks. Would a software update really even have the potential to fix those particular benchmarks?
EDIT: Unless the radio drivers are just really poor? That might explain the bad benchmarks on web browsing too since data would be in use the entire time for those benchmarks as well. Maybe then there is hope for a software improvement to battery life? I really hate buying things based on what they might be able to do in the future vs what I know they can do now
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Yeah the battery really is bad. Its the most concerning issue right now for me as I debate whether or not to pull the trigger on this. My biggest concern is the cellular talk time and the wifi hotspot time. Those things can't really be blamed on the cpu thermal throttling issues as neither are CPU intensive tasks. Would a software update really even have the potential to fix those particular benchmarks?
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Not if you want to fry your internals. Lol.
I'm guessing that the heat cannot dissipate effectively because of the screen on the front which is emanating heat, and the damn wireless inductive charging pad which is, in my mind, like a blanket. And I'm not even sure how effective glass is at displacing heat when couple with plastic.
But actually, cellular talk does release heat. Have you not noticed your phone getting hot when talking for extended periods of time? I believe the radio chip gets hot, maybe not necessarily the CPU. Regardless of where the heat is coming from, however, the sensors may still pick up on it. *shrugs*.
I'd advise you to wait 3 ~ 4 weeks if you can. Don't waste your time being the early adopter and wasting time dealing with early-release issues.
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I'd advise you to wait 3 ~ 4 weeks if you can. Don't waste your time being the early adopter and wasting time dealing with early-release issues.
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Well, every bad for a good we say where I'm from.
Looks like a whole bunch of us are gonna wait for exactly that.
On the review, keep in mind that we're not sure what version of the software all those test units use. Probably an unfinished version..
It hasn't really come together for me...
- No 32GB or Micro SD
- Poor battery life still, the update hasn't fixed it
- Poor benchmark results
I wanted to buy cause I thought it would be a bargain powerhouse but in the end it is obvious why the thing is so cheap. I'll just wait for my upgrade in April and get the GS4 if that is any good but until then my GS2 is doing just fine.
Seems fine.. compared to the Galaxy Nexus, which I regularly get 2 days at at time out of, the battery rates about the same, so no worries for me.
well, iv been "forced" to wait now, i was trying to order earlier today in the UK, but maybe it was a good thing i didnt get it yet
Well the "battery" test involves using chrome so...chrome sucks lot of power
not realy a good battery test imho
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Well the "battery" test involves using chrome so...chrome sucks lot of power
not realy a good battery test imho
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Agreed. Chrome really isn't ready for prime time in my experience. Even on my Nexus 7, I use dolphin and its much smoother and faster than Chrome.
So even if we throw out the browser tests because of Chrome, why the low talk times compared to other phones with smaller batteries?
My take away is:
Software - Great
Design - Great
Performance - Good, could get better with kernels
Camera - Par
Battery Life - Par
More realistic than the sky high expectations set by everyone for a $350 off-contract phone.
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It hasn't really come together for me...
- No 32GB or Micro SD
- Poor battery life still, the update hasn't fixed it
- Poor benchmark results
I wanted to buy cause I thought it would be a bargain powerhouse but in the end it is obvious why the thing is so cheap. I'll just wait for my upgrade in April and get the GS4 if that is any good but until then my GS2 is doing just fine.
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I'm sorry but benchmarks mean sweet FA. My GNex is faster in actual usage than my One X although the One X is 3 times faster in Quadrant. Battery life is completely subject to usage - I don't believe their graphs as my One X is pitiful compared to my Nexus. Whereas me Nexus would be at 80%+ at this time of day my One X is currently sitting at 62% as I type with the same minimal work day usage
Really wanted this phone, but there are a number of areas that mean quite a lot to me to be honest, it hasn't really delivered:-
1. Battery life - no getting away from it, its poor. Marginally better than the GNex but no so much you would notice, despite a bigger battery.
2. Camera quality - Yes again, its better (not difficult), but somehow, it just isn't as good as it could be. Slightly slow shutter speed, average quality.
3. Audio quality - We haven't yet seen the full score with that, but again, the consensus seems to be "average"
4. Storage capacity - even less than the GNex (8/16 vs 16/32). We don't all have access to 4G internet and no limits to store all of our files in the cloud.
Now, yes I appreciate this is really nit-picking but I'm not really unhappy with the performance of my GNex, and it will still get the update. It is not slow, or choppy, and as such, with the values of the GNex how they stand, I'm reluctant to fork out £150 to upgrade to a phone, which no doubt is an upgrade, but not one you'll notice very easily.
As it stands, I'm thinking that vanilla android alone is not enough to make it a worthwhile swap over something like an HTC One X+, despite the price difference. OK the N4 has a faster CPU and more RAM, but I'm not much of games player, but it has a better screen, camera, sound quality and more storage. Or a Galaxy Note which is just as fast, much better battery life, bigger screen, expandable, better camera etc.
I can see why this phone is cheaper than the competition TBH. I am a big fan of Vanilla Android, but there can be no denying it plays second fiddle on *most* specs (all but RAM, CPU and , possibly screen).
BUT, I'll probably still get one, LOL.
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I'm sorry but benchmarks mean sweet FA. My GNex is faster in actual usage than my One X although the One X is 3 times faster in Quadrant. Battery life is completely subject to usage - I don't believe their graphs as my One X is pitiful compared to my Nexus. Whereas me Nexus would be at 80%+ at this time of day my One X is currently sitting at 62% as I type with the same minimal work day usage
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Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
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Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
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Thoughtful said:
Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
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I should really qualify my last statement with I'm currently running the JB test build from HTC (as I'm a member of Elevate) so it's not on the final build but even on ICS it was poor compared to my Nexus. I can't see me having any issues with the N4 as I don't game/listen to music on my phone - it's purely a communication tool so email/FB/Twitter/SMSs/calls is the order of the day for me
Benchmarking wise the Nexus 4 is a joke. People were talking about this miraculous ota that will make it better but nothing happened. The camera isn't among the best and battery life sucks. Jeez, iPhone 5 with LTE is way better than the 3G Nexus 4. We can hate on Apple as much as we want but sometimes they get the job done way better than android makers/vendors.
I wanted this phone so bad but now I can wait to see what happens.
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The sad part is tests rarely reflect reality, people get poor battery life on the iPhone 5 despite the controlled tests suggesting it should have excellent battery life, moral of the story is YMMV, its not as cut and dry as raw data correlating to reproducible performance. The benchmarks aren't great so there is one criteria left and that is how it performs in real world usage cause I'm not going to benchmarking like a maniac as it serves no benefit, as I actually want to use my phone. I'd say it passes that criteria well from numerous reviews. Camera quality (video) is reportedly improved though have to wait for Anandtech to update the review and upload new videos. I'll be getting mine in December wanna wait for some cases and then pull the trigger on the purchase
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Benchmarking wise the Nexus 4 is a joke. People were talking about this miraculous ota that will make it better but nothing happened. The camera isn't among the best and battery life sucks. Jeez, iPhone 5 with LTE is way better than the 3G Nexus 4. We can hate on Apple as much as we want but sometimes they get the job done way better than android makers/vendors.
I wanted this phone so bad but now I can wait to see what happens.
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Benchmarking wise benchmarking doesn't have to do with anything. Jesus.....
I'm assuming all these reports of poor battery life include Google Now being enabled. I know its a key feature on JB(4.1/4.2) but I use it on CM10 now and its a HUGE battery drainer. When i turn it off, my battery life is markedly better. I'm assuming if you turn it off with the N4 you'll see better battery life.
Basically, I own a GS3 right now and was thinking of upgrading to an Xperia Z. I realize that a GS4 or HTC One would be more of a proper upgrade but those are out of reach for me financially here.
I mostly use my phone for video playback(movies and such), browsing and the camera. I also use it to a lesser extent for music or gaming(angry birds type of stuff). So the screen and camera upgrade fit in the bill pretty well. I'm sure the extra 1GB of ram wouldn't hurt either. In the end the phone is also drop dead gorgeous and the waterproof/dustproof thing sounds very attractive as well.
However, after doing some research the Xperia Z seems to have a poor battery life when it comes to video playback and camera. Especially compared to the GS3 the differences seem so huge that it just doesn't make any sense. So I've started to wonder whether this upgrade would actually be worth it.
I don't mind charging my phone daily but the estimated 5h40m video playback and camera battery usage seem pretty poor. I was wondering whether any improvements have been made in this department since the initial tests carried out by GSMArena? I can already get about 6-7h in terms of video playback and less than 5h of browsing on my GS3. Would the Z be able to at least match that now or even do slightly better in terms of browsing? Will the upcoming 4.2 upgrade hopefully extend the battery life a bit as well? So, help me out here! :laugh:
No need 4u to upgrade. For those purposes that you do...just stick with the S3 :thumbup:
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Basically, I own a GS3 right now and was thinking of upgrading to an Xperia Z. I realize that a GS4 or HTC One would be more of a proper upgrade but those are out of reach for me financially here.
I mostly use my phone for video playback(movies and such), browsing and the camera. I also use it to a lesser extent for music or gaming(angry birds type of stuff). So the screen and camera upgrade fit in the bill pretty well. I'm sure the extra 1GB of ram wouldn't hurt either. In the end the phone is also drop dead gorgeous and the waterproof/dustproof thing sounds very attractive as well.
However, after doing some research the Xperia Z seems to have a poor battery life when it comes to video playback and camera. Especially compared to the GS3 the differences seem so huge that it just doesn't make any sense. So I've started to wonder whether this upgrade would actually be worth it.
I don't mind charging my phone daily but the estimated 5h40m video playback and camera battery usage seem pretty poor. I was wondering whether any improvements have been made in this department since the initial tests carried out by GSMArena? I can already get about 6-7h in terms of video playback and less than 5h of browsing on my GS3. Would the Z be able to at least match that now or even do slightly better in terms of browsing? Will the upcoming 4.2 upgrade hopefully extend the battery life a bit as well? So, help me out here! :laugh:
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With your phone usage, i don't think you need to change XZ from SGS3. Just that SGS3 is not a 4G phone the browsing speed may be lower but the battery usage is more. SGS3 also allow you to change battery so it can be useful.. Just that i dont like Samsung "cheap plastic" feel thats why i choose XZ.
Thanks for the answers!
But what I was wondering about the most was whether there have been improvements regarding the battery life ever since those tests were carried out. I have been told that there have been firmware upgrades that have improved the battery usage when it comes to multimedia and such. Is there any truth to this or does the battery still drain in 5 hours when it comes to video playback/camera usage etc.?
i am pretty much in the same boat as you...i also had a GS3 & i couldnt upgrade because of financial reasons as well....i got the xperia z after selling of the galaxy & yes...its a pretty darn good update for me...the screen, when you view it dead on, especially with the new update that fixes contrast issues, is EPIC! the performance is miles ahead of the s3, so is the camera. I also watch movies on my phone but i music & gaming are equally important to me. The latest upgrades do improve battery life slightly & you can help it along as well using stamina mode but i am afraid its still not that great... i can make the phone go a day maybe before hitting 15% by playing heavy games like real racing 3 & listening to music & watching some episodes of initial d
Hello all,
I have an upgrade to use with Verizon. Currently on the S5 and can't stand the fact there's no development cause of locked BS Samsung crap. Just wondering if I should get an "older" phone like the N6 or try out the G4 (they tend to get unlocked within a couple months). Want to get away form Touchjizz and Sammy thanks to Verizon. Any comments would be appreciated!
I recently purchased the Nexus 6 on Verizon and I'm extremely happy. I also have an active Note 4 and now never use it. I'm having so much fun flashing ROMs and customizing the device (wood back covers, etc) that being 6 months old doesnt bother me. I'll wait for the next Nexus before upgrading again.
Also, this is the only device that I've purchased from Verizon that came with ZERO bloat. Literally nothing. Even AT&T crapped that up. It doesn't make great use of Verizon's Advanced Calling feature (native video calling) but who cares. VoLTE works.
Obviously get the G4. Nexus devices have subpar battery life
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Obviously get the note 4. Nexus devices have subpar battery life
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Dude, i have almost never seen a postive comment of you about phones in multiple forums. Why do you always endup with the wrong phones and do you even have a Nexus 6?
That said both devices are awesome but very different. The G4 has a swapable battery, external sd card support up to 2TB, a superb camera wich some find even better then that of the Galaxy S6 and a gorgeous screen. Batterylife will be a bit better than de N6`s but the N6 is a developer phone with many choices of roms, kernels, and mods too choose from. The Nexus 6 has a good screen but in full sunlight sometimes not very clear, the speakers are great, its superfluid with no lags and in daily use a very good phone to use and it kind of grows on you
I recommend the 64GB version as there is no sdcard slot and the battery is not swapable and the speakers are very good imo.
So both have things going for them, best is to play with both in real life in a shop if you can and see wich one feels best for you.
@gee2012, am I lying about the battery life?
Nexus are great besides that and the camera
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@gee2012, am I lying about the battery life?
Nexus are great besides that and the camera
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I never call other users liars bro, i just noticed your name and it reminded me of the negative comments you used to post about the last years N5 i believe. But enough about that, the batttery gets me through the day and have about 4-4,5 hrs. screenontime wich is sufficient for me. Its not Note 4 and certainly not Ascend Mate 7 figures but enough for me It varies depending on settings and usage per user. The camera shoots pretty descent shots with sufficient light and lowlight with HDR+ isn`t bad either for me, but again not Galaxy S6 or even LG G3 quality.
Dennisg34 said:
Hello all,
I have an upgrade to use with Verizon. Currently on the S5 and can't stand the fact there's no development cause of locked BS Samsung crap. Just wondering if I should get an "older" phone like the N6 or try out the G4 (they tend to get unlocked within a couple months). Want to get away form Touchjizz and Sammy thanks to Verizon. Any comments would be appreciated!
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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Can you link any websites showing the adreno 418 being worse than the 420? I did some fast googling and although there's not a lot of info it seems the 418 is as powerful as the 420 if not slightly more edging it out and is also made on a smaller die 20nm vs 28nm.
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Can you link any websites showing the adreno 418 being worse than the 420? I did some fast googling and although there's not a lot of info it seems the 418 is as powerful as the 420 if not slightly more edging it out and is also made on a smaller die 20nm vs 28nm.
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From Anandtech: "In terms of graphics performance, the Adreno 418 is apparently 20% faster than the Adreno 330...and the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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From Anandtech: "In terms of graphics performance, the Adreno 418 is apparently 20% faster than the Adreno 330...and the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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Ahh I kept googling adreno 420 vs 418. I should been looking at 418 vs 330. Thank you for this!
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I never call other users liars bro, i just noticed your name and it reminded me of the negative comments you used to post about the last years N5 i believe. But enough about that, the batttery gets me through the day and have about 4-4,5 hrs. screenontime wich is sufficient for me. Its not Note 4 and certainly not Ascend Mate 7 figures but enough for me It varies depending on settings and usage per user. The camera shoots pretty descent shots with sufficient light and lowlight with HDR+ isn`t bad either for me, but again not Galaxy S6 or even LG G3 quality.
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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Ed Murray said:
I recently purchased the Nexus 6 on Verizon and I'm extremely happy. I also have an active Note 4 and now never use it. I'm having so much fun flashing ROMs and customizing the device (wood back covers, etc) that being 6 months old doesnt bother me. I'll wait for the next Nexus before upgrading again.
Also, this is the only device that I've purchased from Verizon that came with ZERO bloat. Literally nothing. Even AT&T crapped that up. It doesn't make great use of Verizon's Advanced Calling feature (native video calling) but who cares. VoLTE works.
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Thanks everyone for your input! I would be using the camera more than gaming. Only gaming I do is the occasional w/e game while I'm taking care of business lol. Nexus was thrown in here because of all the development it has right now. I might be leaning towards the G4 just with all the extras it has and the phenomenal camera and it will still be faster than my S5. I own it, and yeah it does have some lag still. Can't stand Touchwhiz anymore and the lack of development thanks to their boost in security. Not sure why the last several Nexuses weren't removable batteries. Just an OCD thing on my part as well as external storage.
Yes Samsung phones have become harder to ROM, root, etc, unless you Go for T-Mobile/international and even then its not great.
If you plan on using the camera often, take it from a Nexus 6, Note 4 user - check out the G4.
That's my suggestion, good luck in your decision
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Thanks everyone for your input! I would be using the camera more than gaming. Only gaming I do is the occasional w/e game while I'm taking care of business lol. Nexus was thrown in here because of all the development it has right now. I might be leaning towards the G4 just with all the extras it has and the phenomenal camera and it will still be faster than my S5. I own it, and yeah it does have some lag still. Can't stand Touchwhiz anymore and the lack of development thanks to their boost in security. Not sure why the last several Nexuses weren't removable batteries. Just an OCD thing on my part as well as external storage.
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What do you guys suggest? Anyone here or the T1 Tacital watch? Sorry to part question [emoji41]
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I use my Galaxy S3 Classic with it without any issues. It's an older smartwatch but in the world of Android smartwatches still one of the best available options. I briefly owned the newer version of Samsung's offering, the stainless steel variant of the Active2 watch, but I found that it didn't offer much if anything in terms of improvements to the S3 Classic, while sacrificing a lot in design and practicability of the UX.
For Android you'll want to go with one of the new offerings with the gig of RAM, makes a huge difference in the GUI where they are vastly more smooth in operation. I'd set my sights on either the Gen 5 or TicWatch Pro. The Samsung devices work better with Samsung phones but still work ok with other android phones and have much better battery life but you give up all the options Wear brings with it. There are often big sales on smartwatches, often enough I'd consider it worth defining which one I wanted and waiting for a good sale to pick it up.
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For Android you'll want to go with one of the new offerings with the gig of RAM, makes a huge difference in the GUI where they are vastly more smooth in operation. I'd set my sights on either the Gen 5 or TicWatch Pro. The Samsung devices work better with Samsung phones but still work ok with other android phones and have much better battery life but you give up all the options Wear brings with it. There are often big sales on smartwatches, often enough I'd consider it worth defining which one I wanted and waiting for a good sale to pick it up.
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I'm curious - what options is he giving up because my understanding is that Wear watches are literally the worst wearables out there with the least useful features. Samsung devices are regarded as only second to Apple and work with any Android device. Genuine question.
Nah, the feature set was never the problem, it was the performance and poor battery life. I haven't owned an Apple watch and I'm not going to as the iphone is an answer to a question I never asked. Being as it's not a part of this discussion or going to be used on this phone I think we can set it aside. The Sammy offerings have much better battery life, it's not even close, and that is their primary benefit. They did also have far better performance but that has changed so long as you get one of the new offerings with a gig of RAM. Now the performance is much closer although I'd still give the nod to the Samsung devices. It is close enough however that it becomes a matter of features and available apps to my mind unless you have a Samsung phone and use their apps, in that case I'd go all in with Samsung. Now that wear can legitimately make it through a long day of use before it needs to go on the charger and the sluggish performance has been fixed wear becomes much more compelling than it once was. You have many more apps, watch faces, etc. Integration with Google maps is much better which is a big plus if you travel.
There was a reason why I mentioned both, Google essentially gives you options that you cant get with Samsung, the Samsung still has much better battery life and it's tight integration makes it better on Samsung devices but still good on other android phones if you're not missing any apps that you could have had on wear. It's something a user needs to make some calls on in terms of what they want. The only absolute mistake you can make here in my opinion is getting an older wear device without the extra ram, you want the 3100 and the 1 gig; that's a must have.
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What do you guys suggest? Anyone here or the T1 Tacital watch? Sorry to part question [emoji41]
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I'm using a Fitbit Versa 2 & have been very satisfied with it.
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Nah, the feature set was never the problem, it was the performance and poor battery life. I haven't owned an Apple watch and I'm not going to as the iphone is an answer to a question I never asked. Being as it's not a part of this discussion or going to be used on this phone I think we can set it aside. The Sammy offerings have much better battery life, it's not even close, and that is their primary benefit. They did also have far better performance but that has changed so long as you get one of the new offerings with a gig of RAM. Now the performance is much closer although I'd still give the nod to the Samsung devices. It is close enough however that it becomes a matter of features and available apps to my mind unless you have a Samsung phone and use their apps, in that case I'd go all in with Samsung. Now that wear can legitimately make it through a long day of use before it needs to go on the charger and the sluggish performance has been fixed wear becomes much more compelling than it once was. You have many more apps, watch faces, etc. Integration with Google maps is much better which is a big plus if you travel.
There was a reason why I mentioned both, Google essentially gives you options that you cant get with Samsung, the Samsung still has much better battery life and it's tight integration makes it better on Samsung devices but still good on other android phones if you're not missing any apps that you could have had on wear. It's something a user needs to make some calls on in terms of what they want. The only absolute mistake you can make here in my opinion is getting an older wear device without the extra ram, you want the 3100 and the 1 gig; that's a must have.
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This is really good feedback. Maybe I should look at some Android Wear options again. I extended the life of my S3 by replacing the battery, and it is still a stellar option but one thing I always disliked was poor integration with Google Maps (relies or 3rd party app). It would be much better to have something native, closer to what one would encounter on an Apple Watch.
The Gen 5 is pretty good especially if you can get it for less than regular. It was $172 a few weeks ago on Amazon. I've had it since August and it's not perfect but I think very good. Battery isn't an issue for me as I just top off in the morning while getting ready and when I get home from work, a good 14-15 hours later with usually 40% or so to spare.
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I've had the Sammy s2 and s3, and I DID like them a lot, at least at first. They were smooth and the battery life was good, but, the OS and features seemed pretty basic. I hated the workout app, and the only other offerings were terrible. Also, Samsung support suuuccckkks... It was like talking so someone who was just hired and had no idea what they were talking about.
Anyway, I have a Fossil Q Explorist 4 HR and I love it. It IS a little jittery sometimes, so you should definitely go with a gen 5, but it's great. Tons of apps to choose from, it looks great (I wear it to the office even), and battery life is almost on par with the s3. I take it off the charger at around 6:30am and at 10pm I typically have 40-ish% left. It would certainly last a full day.
One word of warning if someone might be setting their sights on a Ticwatch Pro: Get the LTE even if you don't want to use LTE because it has the extra RAM, the older version that is not LTE does not have it and it suffers from the sluggish GUI problem that all Wear watches had up until the recent offerings with the upped RAM. I know it's tempting because the LTE version is more expensive but you really, really, want that RAM, it completely alters the user experience while manipulating the GUI. Much, much smoother, apps load faster, etc.
Pebble Time Steel in Gold! Until a watch that can match the battery life (10 days!) + features comes along, I'll be sticking with my Pebble. Recently picked up another Gold, because my 4 year old one finally had the battery worn out too much, and also got a black one too.
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One word of warning if someone might be setting their sights on a Ticwatch Pro: Get the LTE even if you don't want to use LTE because it has the extra RAM
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Yes definitely this. 1GB RAM makes the difference. I believe it has the old 2100 processor but that's not really much a factor for performance as RAM is.
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ryandanger said:
Pebble Time Steel in Gold! Until a watch that can match the battery life (10 days!) + features comes along, I'll be sticking with my Pebble. Recently picked up another Gold, because my 4 year old one finally had the battery worn out too much, and also got a black one too.
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Classic. I got the original Pebble when it was on Kickstarter.
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I bought the Fossil Carlyle on sale and it's really been great and it came with 3 watch bands that swap out easily. I had a Moto 360 Gen 2 that fell apart a few months ago so I was in the market. I just looked at the new Moto 360 and it looks really nice. The price tag is a little over the top at $350 but it should come down. I'm a little gun shy when it comes to Moto since the support was horrendous previously. Hopefully, it's gotten better.
Yep, the old Ticwatch pro uses the 2100 so it doesn't have the co-processor for ambient mode like the 3100. In their case they have the second display which also uses little power so it negates some of the loss but not all of it as the ambient isn't as efficient as it can be with a 3100 and lacks the 16 colors, adaptive brightness on ambient, etc. Still it doesn't change the performance when manipulating the GUI where both are using the same A7s so the felt performance is similar to a 3100 when the extra ram is in the mix.
The 3100 offers nothing in terms of a performance increase. It is literally a 2100 then Qualcomm slapped on the coprocessor and called it a day. The major difference will come from the extra gig of RAM which WearOS desperately needs. When you compare a 512 MB device to a 1GB device the performance difference is quite staggering. I have the TW Pro 4G using the JanJan rom and I couldn't be happier with the performance. Ball is still in Google's court to make something out of WearOS and for Qualcomm to stop being lazy scumbags.