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[Q] Questions about the 4X

Hi everyone,
I'm thinking about buying LG Optimus 4X and I have a few questions:
1- How is performance about of the box? Any lag?
2- Both 4X and HTC One X have the same processor, are they equal in performance? How is it compared to the S3? What would I be missing compared to both phones?
3- What about gaming? I've read that people have issues with Tegra 3 in gaming in both 4X and One X.
4- Battery life. What is the maximum screen on time with heavy usage?
5- Any news about JB update?
6- Are there any cons I should know about it before buying?
Thanks in advance, guys

My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well

friartuckme said:
My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well
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They ran well with no lagging at all?

they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source

friartuckme said:
they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source
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Tegra 3 has heating issues due to it's 40nm structure.

The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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dante501 said:
The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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4X has better performance based on experience with both devices or just assumption?

I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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dante501 said:
I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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Regarding performance, where does the 4X fall behind S3?

I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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dante501 said:
I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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Thanks that really helped

Not a problem and u will like the screen. Specially u don't have to worry about burn in and checkerboard looks when u have black backgrounds. And it performs better in sunlight then the amoleod screens do. LG really makes some of the best screens. I only wish I could put a custom rom on the 4x but the stock software is pretty ok. Do not worry about it being as a screw up like it was in the 2x. LG did a better job with that software in the 4x.
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How about Camera
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.

s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.

s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that

Thank you both. I finally decided to buy it over LG L9. Both are fabulous phones but having the flagship phone and better reviews did it for me. It should be in my hands some time this week (online ordering). Am I happy? :laugh: :highfive:
ljubisa_sk said:
1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that
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muellersmattes said:
1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.
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AW: [Q] Questions about the 4X
Then welcome to our community, you won't regret this, I think
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...

Hi,
I also about to buy this phone. I coming from MOTO RAZR xt910 and my big worry is question: Are they confirmed to unlock bootloader? Moto also promised to do so and that's why I bought RAZR, now I ended up with this phone on stock ROM.
Good thing I saw, kholk working on CM, I know him back from SE Arc forum, he doin' grat job.
Overall, I like LG design, comparing phones 3 days, I reading, watching, etc... Last 2 left:
LG 4x vs SGS3
I thing I'll get LG 4x because of design, I really don't like SGS3 shape.

i have two friends which have s3 cause it "famous" them all have crack or scract at the edge.. i think s3 just fragile when it got drop but my 4x i think hundreds of got fall of the bed got thrown seriously still none.... forget gorilla glass 2 just think about the build quality
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Actually the only difference between Gorilla Glass 1 and 2 is that 2 is thinner. They both offer the same protection.

Are you happy with your 4X?

Yo guys.I want to ask you how's the device .Tell me the pros and cons.
I am planning to change my HOX and start developing for 4X.
Thanks!

Yo oblikas,
I'm Really Freakin happy with my device a pro is the Quad core ofcourse Cons are many tweaks needed as for gaming.
So, please Develop some more for our LG P880 !

deownagee said:
Yo oblikas,
I'm Really Freakin happy with my device a pro is the Quad core ofcourse Cons are many tweaks needed as for gaming.
So, please Develop some more for our LG P880 !
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So the gaming is bad huh?

pros:
battery life
tegra chip
ram(1gb but at s3, it's 700mb!)
hd ips screen
cons:
get warm when using 4 cpus
slow charging time
it's big for me, standard is iphone5 size

oblikas said:
Yo guys.I want to ask you how's the device .Tell me the pros and cons.
I am planning to change my HOX and start developing for 4X.
Thanks!
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Very Happy Now we have unlocked BL
I came from HOX as well
There isn't a lot of difference really, screen is a bit better on LG and I like the design more. Feels like a premium quality phone to hold.
We Need More Devs though!!!
Gaming will be just like HOX, depends on the kernel and also optimisation of the game ie crappy Gameloft coding

In general, yes but I would like to see much better battery life - especially sleep. My GTab 7.7 can idle for up to 20 days but this phone can only idle for 2 days. Sure, different battery size and all that but it still should hit 4-5 days of pure idle.
I'd also like to see less heat and another thing that can't be helped is that the screen (when tapping stuff) doesn't feel as solid. I feels a bit hollow when you touch the screen when typing but it is accurate and quick so it's not a bug deal.

someth1ng said:
In general, yes but I would like to see much better battery life - especially sleep. My GTab 7.7 can idle for up to 20 days but this phone can only idle for 2 days. Sure, different battery size and all that but it still should hit 4-5 days of pure idle.
I'd also like to see less heat and another thing that can't be helped is that the screen (when tapping stuff) doesn't feel as solid. I feels a bit hollow when you touch the screen when typing but it is accurate and quick so it's not a bug deal.
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Its overheat up to what temperature ?

oblikas said:
Its overheat up to what temperature ?
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Battery 40 C ,, Normal 25 C .
CPU 65 C ,, Normal 40 C . Especailly when it arrives 1500MHz (in single core only) .
Rebooting heats up phone very quickly higher than anything else .
About gaming , yes it lags in many games .

oblikas said:
So the gaming is bad huh?
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The gaming could be better but with the Tweak of initgpu It's Awesome but Gaming still eats battery.

deownagee said:
The gaming could be better but with the Tweak of initgpu It's Awesome but Gaming still eats battery.
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Btw can you upload some screenshots of ParanoidAndroid?

oblikas said:
Btw can you upload some screenshots of ParanoidAndroid?
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I'll flash again and make your screenshots. Btw what stuff do you need?

deownagee said:
I'll flash again and make your screenshots. Btw what stuff do you need?
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Screenshots on the ROM and taking a logcat while you get force close on PA preferences

not so happy
Hi, 3 days ago I bought my Optimus 4x and I'm kinda sad for a few questions.
I'm using the latest version of the Rom (original jelly bean) and I saw that the unit gets hot and the battery is not have a good performance. I tested the battery with Antutu battery tester and came to drop 1% every minute.
I really want to find a solution to my problem. I'm thinking of selling my phone and buy a Galaxy S3.
Sorry for my bad english.

DaveyGroHl said:
pros:
battery life
tegra chip
ram(1gb but at s3, it's 700mb!)
hd ips screen
cons:
get warm when using 4 cpus
slow charging time
it's big for me, standard is iphone5 size
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What ROM are you using that you have good battery life ? Been the bane of this phones existence for me...
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Really happy with the this phone. Dev support started off slow but now it's really picking up.
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I am absolutely happy with this phone .. It has many advantages more than disadvantages .. Thanks LG for this great phone

LG 4x HD its Amazing
Hi all, i'm happy with this phone, i had a SIII but verizon version... no luck with GSM Networks (3g) in Mexico... now i have 4ox with bootloader unlock and CM 10.1 4.2.2 then its amazing... very fast.. still needs development but i think that's come alone in a few months.... gaming no bad and 3g its great...

for me not really , because of battery drain 1% 1 hour in idle, \
i have try to delete all unused app and disable fastdormancy and disable auto configure mms setting event
what i see is the stock developer is bad
talking about stock rom ..
as far as i changing many region rom, the best is open Europe the gsm and data signal are more stable then asia rom
but all stock rom are drain battery 1% in 1 hour in idle mode,
anyone have same problem ?

someth1ng said:
In general, yes but I would like to see much better battery life - especially sleep. My GTab 7.7 can idle for up to 20 days but this phone can only idle for 2 days. Sure, different battery size and all that but it still should hit 4-5 days of pure idle.
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..I had my 4x run 11 days on mostly idle to get to the yellow line once. That's with contact to the mobile network. When the battery on the 4x is less than half the size of that in the tab7. 5100mAh vs. 2100mAh or so.
But yeah, you're right. LG just hasn't optimized the device all that well. And on a stock setup, with the standard apps (that will keep preventing the phone from dropping to idle speeds), you'll be lucky to get over 2 days on standby.

Pros:
- Very clear, sharp and big 720p IPS screen
- Battery (at least for me)
- Shape (it fits in hand really nice)
- SD card slot (up to 64gb) unlike HOX for example
- 1 GB ram
- Tegra 3 quad processor (plays 1080p HD videos without problems, great for multitasking, nice performance also in games with some tweaks etc.)
- Solid 8MP camera and 1080p recording
- Unlockable Bootloader + CM support and also other devs are starting to work on our phone now :victory:
- Nice price/performance ratio IMHO (I bought mine for 250€ which I think is kind of cheap for a phone with such specs)
- Removable battery
Cons:
- Heating (Tegra 3 is based on 40 nm technology)
- Needs some tweaking for gaming (mostly for more high end games)
- A bit long charging time
So with 1 word, YES I am a happy and proud owner of this phone.

[Q] camera and notification led

hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!

moly82 said:
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
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The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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ectoplasma22 said:
The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!

moly82 said:
thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
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Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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ectoplasma22 said:
Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee

moly82 said:
thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
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Haha this phone is really good but I do not want to influence you too much
For me, the panorama works perfectly, there are sometimes default on the picture but the most of the time the panorama do his work as it should
We also have a port of the Nexus 4's camera so Photosphere is available on this device.
The videos are good, it's true that the stabilization is not perfect but the videos are good enough for my taste.
Just to remind you that I'm absolutely not a professional so i can't really judge the camera since I never use a real camera.
Anyway for a normal use and with cm10.1 the camera should be good enough even if it's not the best part of the O4X
Hope that helped you
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One more word on the camera: My wife has a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, which makes not that excellent pictures (quite a little blurry even under optimal conditions). When she took a look at the pics my O4X made, I had trouble getting it back Sure you cannot compare them with a DSLR -- but for the "Amateur", they are pretty good.

thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!

moly82 said:
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:

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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum

moly82 said:
thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
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no problem, glad i could help. i hope you're as happy with your future phone as i am with mine :highfive:

guys, I read many threads in this subforum about this phone to see in advance what I will need to do when I get it, and it is not clear to me one thing: is it true that some O4X models can not be unlocked? So if I buy it I should check if I get a "good" one or not? :silly:
(I saw some posts about EUR-xxx etc)
tx!

This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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thanks mate you are great! I saw many threads with unlocking procedures but did not see that one sorry!

I was convinced by many threads on this forum to buy this phone, people says, battery life is OK, phone is smooth, camera is OK, then I bought this phone and that was the biggest mistake I did. To clarify:
1. Camera: pictures are not bad but when you want to record a video in a noisy place distortion is all the time, my previous Moto RAZR xt910 recorded video 10x better.
2. Battery life: I tried every combination ROM/Kernel and when I was unplugged my phone at 6:00Am after 12 hours battery was dead. This phone barely lasts 2 hours screen on time. So battery life is worst then every smartphone I had (check signature).
3. Sat Nav. I coudn't use this phone as a SatNav in a car because when you driving and screen is ON car charger can't charge this phone because it's discharging too fast. Result? After few hours the phone is dead unless you turn the screen off and wait for car charger charge the battery.
4. Dust under screen: I was use this phone in usual way, hold in my front jeans pocket, after 2 - 3 monts a big piece of dust poped out in a centre of screen, you can see it on a second picture on my ebay auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330939115679?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649
Now I rather buy Xperia T then this piece of crap.
That's my opinion, I try to save you cause I regret nobody did it for me.
(sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue)

wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion

moly82 said:
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.

Flying_Bear said:
if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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thanks a lot my friend, exact, helpful and clear as always
yes that gps bug would be a big bug for me actually, thanks for letting me know! (i often use gps navigation while phone is connected to the car stereo through headphones to listen to some music so gps malfunctioning would be really a big problem for me!)
strange i did read a lot around about this phone and have never reed anything about that.. thanks again!
well my other choice would be the xperia T but that suffers the reboot bug in cm10.1 and that also is a big bug for me.. really don't know what to do now..
bye and thanks all and good night maybe sleep will take some advice's..

Try using CM Stable with iodak v6 kernel. In my case it gave better battery life and much better performance than any other combination.
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hi guys, sorry for posting again here but i would prefer not to open a new thread.. but if mods want me to do so I will do that!
I have one "final" question about this phone.. :laugh: will all the p880's be bootloader unlockable without exceptions? or if I buy it I should worry about that at the purchase and choose a particular model etc?
(I am asking this because for example for the Xperia T they say that if I get a no-brand one it can be easily unloacked, while if I get a branded one I can't unlock the bootloader at all..! is the same for the LG?)
thanks in advance bye!

The HTC One

Hey guys I'm in need of an upgrade and I think the HTC One is the answer!
I was wondering if you could please give me feedback on your experience so far.
All I know about the cons like
Can't change battery
No SD card...
So how is the battery life etc??
Thanks
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Battery life is normal. Like another smartphone. Not as good as SIV but normal. Day and a half with normal use... Is no SD card, bad thing but 32 or 64 gb is a good amount of space. Performance for me is the best smartphone. Is absolutely awesome .
Buuut camera... Is a not bad camera, but like you can read one time and another in this forum, camera have a lot of issues and problems....

TechMennis said:
Hey guys I'm in need of an upgrade and I think the HTC One is the answer!
I was wondering if you could please give me feedback on your experience so far.
All I know about the cons like
Can't change battery
No SD card...
So how is the battery life etc??
Thanks
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txordi said:
Battery life is normal. Like another smartphone. Not as good as SIV but normal. Day and a half with normal use... Is no SD card, bad thing but 32 or 64 gb is a good amount of space. Performance for me is the best smartphone. Is absolutely awesome .
Buuut camera... Is a not bad camera, but like you can read one time and another in this forum, camera have a lot of issues and problems....
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like already said, with normal use you'll get 1,5 days out of it. the camera issues are not present on every device (purple dust on very dark pictures) and we don't exactly know if it's a software or a hardware issue. we'll see if it got fixed when 4.3 comes out officially.

i exachanged my i9500 to one 802w dual sim and batt life is THE SAME. That means in 9500 batt life is worse that htc one international.

I have the black HTC One and my girlfriend has the silver.
Both running Android Revolution HD 21.0 and Elemental X kernel 5.2
Both our phones will last a whole work day starting at 9am and ending around 8pm. She's a real estate agent so she's always on phone calls and I do IT so I use mine primarily for scheduling, web browsing and text.
Phone is fast, camera is absolutely amazing and I cannot recommend this phone enough!

I've had mine for a little over a month and love it.
I find that the 32gb is enough for my apps, music and some movies (even if you need some more space there are external storage options).
I haven't had any serious issues with the camera in my device although focousing in low light can be a hastle - by the way the burst feature is fantastic. Something to be noted although the camera is only 4mp the quality of those pixels is very good. HDR is a really great option too if you have a steady hand or a place to rest your phone while you take the photo.
I had a bit of trouble wraping my head around the Sense UI but Apex fixed that in a jiffy. On the subject of Sense I do have a slight fondness for the lock screen and use it.
Now I will be the frist to admit this was a huge step up from my old LG Optimus Black but this is a serious piece of hardware.

I have nothing else to add on what's already been said expect there is a way around the purple haze in low light camera shots. All I do is lower the iso in the camera app to 100 or 200 and use the flash. Works a treat till a fix comes along. This doesn't work in HDR camera mode though as the iso isn't adjustable in HDR.
Apart from the above the phone is fantastic and feels well built. Take the plunge and get one, you won't regret it!

Note 2 Stolen.. Should I buy THE ONE!

Here I am again guys..
My samsung NOTE 2 has been lately stolen .. And I am in the process of looking for a new phone that could be as pleasurable as the note 2.
My eyes have been set on the HTC one for some time now, but most of the reviews are making me shaky about that decision.. So what do you guys think? Should I go for it.. PROS & CONS? Camera, speed, etc?

Camera great, speed amazing. You might dislike the battery life coming from the note. Other then that, go for it.
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bellumus said:
Camera great, speed amazing. You might dislike the battery life coming from the note. Other then that, go for it.
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Battery is actually better then on note 2 ...
As for camera take a look at photo thread many photos there , speed well lol ... If you ever used vanilla 4.3 sense 5 on 4.3 is even faster , it's pretty much faster even then s800 devices regarding the system speed , screen is miles ahead of anything currently available , speakers are out of this world and build quality / design is unmatched , gaming lasts about 4 / 4:30 of asphalt 8. Feel in the hand is awesome , updates are very fast this year , we have both sense and ge already on 4.3 a month ago so it's on par with n4 , the only thing you'll maybe mind is screen size since you're coming from note 2 , gaming is of course better on larger screen , tho performance of the one in games is way ahead of note 2.
And lastly if you care about flashing / development one pretty much has the best roms period , if you like customisation nothing on xda comes close to viper rom. It simply had everything you can think of and more. Dig thru some threads a bit , the best thing would be testing the device yourself in a store.
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this is why I love the forums around here because I can always get an argument and results So why is it better or worse then the note 2?

Shan89 said:
Battery is actually better then on note 2 ...
As for camera take a look at photo thread many photos there , speed well lol ... If you ever used vanilla 4.3 sense 5 on 4.3 is even faster , it's pretty much faster even then s800 devices regarding the system speed , screen is miles ahead of anything currently available , speakers are out of this world and build quality / design is unmatched , gaming lasts about 4 / 4:30 of asphalt 8. Feel in the hand is awesome , updates are very fast this year , we have both sense and ge already on 4.3 a month ago so it's on par with n4 , the only thing you'll maybe mind is screen size since you're coming from note 2 , gaming is of course better on larger screen , tho performance of the one in games is way ahead of note 2.
And lastly if you care about flashing / development one pretty much has the best roms period , if you like customisation nothing on xda comes close to viper rom. It simply had everything you can think of and more. Dig thru some threads a bit , the best thing would be testing the device yourself in a store.
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WOW! What rom and kernel are you using? I get around 2 hours of use. I never had the Note 2 so I cant compare it with that, but 4 hrs with 50% left is great!
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insanehadi said:
this is why I love the forums around here because I can always get an argument and results So why is it better or worse then the note 2?
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Its better because its faster, better camera, WAY better build quality, and I hate touchwiz. If you want a large phone, then I would wait for the One Max. Its supposed to come out on Oct 15 according to rumors.

Shan89 said:
Battery is actually better then on note 2 ...
As for camera take a look at photo thread many photos there , speed well lol ... If you ever used vanilla 4.3 sense 5 on 4.3 is even faster , it's pretty much faster even then s800 devices regarding the system speed , screen is miles ahead of anything currently available , speakers are out of this world and build quality / design is unmatched , gaming lasts about 4 / 4:30 of asphalt 8. Feel in the hand is awesome , updates are very fast this year , we have both sense and ge already on 4.3 a month ago so it's on par with n4 , the only thing you'll maybe mind is screen size since you're coming from note 2 , gaming is of course better on larger screen , tho performance of the one in games is way ahead of note 2.
And lastly if you care about flashing / development one pretty much has the best roms period , if you like customisation nothing on xda comes close to viper rom. It simply had everything you can think of and more. Dig thru some threads a bit , the best thing would be testing the device yourself in a store.
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exactly the things i wanted to hear! I think I am going for this phone .. and to be honest I was kind of getting bored with the huge note 2 screen! thank you for all the things you have said .. it really helped !

You have said it yourself this device is THE One
1. the performance is amazing ... it can handle whatever you throw at it no matter what and it handles multitasking with ease
2.the camera is amazing what ever you you do the photo comes out great
3. 32GB on board .. "i would prefer the 64GB " but its really big unless you shoot a lot of videos
4.the feel when you hold the device is uncomparable its amazing
5.the speakers are great ... i used to listen through headphones but now i only watch shows on them
6. the screen is great but when i applied a screen protector some of the visibility in the sun is gone
cons "before you buy"
1. check the camera for low light shots coz some of them produce pinkish effect
2 check the speakers for crack and pop at high volume

aooga said:
WOW! What rom and kernel are you using? I get around 2 hours of use. I never had the Note 2 so I cant compare it with that, but 4 hrs with 50% left is great!
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that was viper rom elemental x kernel battery saving installation. , currently on latest insertcoin , stock similar results.
insanehadi said:
exactly the things i wanted to hear! I think I am going for this phone .. and to be honest I was kind of getting bored with the huge note 2 screen! thank you for all the things you have said .. it really helped !
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Np mate , glad it helped.
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insanehadi said:
Here I am again guys..
My samsung NOTE 2 has been lately stolen .. And I am in the process of looking for a new phone that could be as pleasurable as the note 2.
My eyes have been set on the HTC one for some time now, but most of the reviews are making me shaky about that decision.. So what do you guys think? Should I go for it.. PROS & CONS? Camera, speed, etc?
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So you go to bmw showroom and ask them shall I buy this car? Offcourse they are going to sell you the car. I hope you get what I mean. Otherwise just carry on.
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