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[Q] Questions about the 4X

Hi everyone,
I'm thinking about buying LG Optimus 4X and I have a few questions:
1- How is performance about of the box? Any lag?
2- Both 4X and HTC One X have the same processor, are they equal in performance? How is it compared to the S3? What would I be missing compared to both phones?
3- What about gaming? I've read that people have issues with Tegra 3 in gaming in both 4X and One X.
4- Battery life. What is the maximum screen on time with heavy usage?
5- Any news about JB update?
6- Are there any cons I should know about it before buying?
Thanks in advance, guys

My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well

friartuckme said:
My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well
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They ran well with no lagging at all?

they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source

friartuckme said:
they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source
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Tegra 3 has heating issues due to it's 40nm structure.

The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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dante501 said:
The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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4X has better performance based on experience with both devices or just assumption?

I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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dante501 said:
I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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Regarding performance, where does the 4X fall behind S3?

I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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dante501 said:
I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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Thanks that really helped

Not a problem and u will like the screen. Specially u don't have to worry about burn in and checkerboard looks when u have black backgrounds. And it performs better in sunlight then the amoleod screens do. LG really makes some of the best screens. I only wish I could put a custom rom on the 4x but the stock software is pretty ok. Do not worry about it being as a screw up like it was in the 2x. LG did a better job with that software in the 4x.
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How about Camera
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.

s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.

s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that

Thank you both. I finally decided to buy it over LG L9. Both are fabulous phones but having the flagship phone and better reviews did it for me. It should be in my hands some time this week (online ordering). Am I happy? :laugh: :highfive:
ljubisa_sk said:
1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that
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muellersmattes said:
1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.
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AW: [Q] Questions about the 4X
Then welcome to our community, you won't regret this, I think
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...

Hi,
I also about to buy this phone. I coming from MOTO RAZR xt910 and my big worry is question: Are they confirmed to unlock bootloader? Moto also promised to do so and that's why I bought RAZR, now I ended up with this phone on stock ROM.
Good thing I saw, kholk working on CM, I know him back from SE Arc forum, he doin' grat job.
Overall, I like LG design, comparing phones 3 days, I reading, watching, etc... Last 2 left:
LG 4x vs SGS3
I thing I'll get LG 4x because of design, I really don't like SGS3 shape.

i have two friends which have s3 cause it "famous" them all have crack or scract at the edge.. i think s3 just fragile when it got drop but my 4x i think hundreds of got fall of the bed got thrown seriously still none.... forget gorilla glass 2 just think about the build quality
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Actually the only difference between Gorilla Glass 1 and 2 is that 2 is thinner. They both offer the same protection.

Problems on XPeria Z ! Disapointed!!

Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??

Go back to iPhone.
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That's not helping me

Kinoal said:
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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Just wait a few days for the 4.2.2 update and stop crying :silly:

maybe your device is defect?
i'm using the z for nearly 3 weeks now, haven't had a single problem.
phone is fast, ui is smooth and fluid, no lags. and i have plenty of widgets. temperature isn't hot.
compared it to a friends iphone 5 - no lags, not less fluid or smooth.

unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better

Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!

Aerys said:
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
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Hurry up
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trungduc5151 said:
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
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Don't want to loose my warranty

xperia z
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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so far everything fine with my xperia z. no lags. stand by time is awesome... it can take 2 days witout 3g but with wifi on and moderate use. i installed a lot of games like real racing so far all is fine also with the temperature. im using the non lte version black xperia. the only problem that i have is that some apps is not compatible like the keek social video app and i can not register with box cloud storage.. idont know why. all xperience is great

reptile64 said:
Just wait a few days for the 4.2.2 update and stop crying :silly:
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You sure it will be out in a few more days??
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trungduc5151 said:
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
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samuelchua said:
You sure it will be out in a few more days??
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The 4.2.2 is supposed to boost the performance of Android?

Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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disable that irritation animation effect from the developer menu....everything is great about the phone...apart frm im having issues with the touch lcd...stimes i have to touch the app like 5 times in quick seccession only thn it registers, odly enough when i message ...keyboard is all fine..battry is nt great either,with 3g on , lasts only half a day

Aerys said:
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
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Wait... What? dust? are you sure it's XZ? lol

I had quite a bit of lag on mine also. I tried numerous Launchers until I found one that ran without hitch. Try Apex Launcher. Takes a while to set up and get right, but now mine is running absolutely smooth as silk. Ill try the stock launcher again once the new Android update hits. But agreed, out the box, the phone isnt smooth or quick to use at all.

Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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i cannot see any of these problem in my phone
iPhone is for stupid people (girls/boys who don care of developing)
it s android if u have problem with this ROM u can root and change it
change kernel
change firmware
iPhone 5 is dual-core, 1.2 GHz, 1gm ram, 4inch (not hd!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xperia Z is QUADcore, 1.5 GHz, 2GB RAM, 5inch, FULL HD
so it normal for temperature to increase But phone will work properly in high temp. :good:
(iphone users cannot imagine this )

Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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Use a good launcher, and disable/uninstall some of the apps that you don't use. This phone is quick, much smoother compared to any iPhone i've used.

pkw168 said:
Use a good launcher, and disable/uninstall some of the apps that you don't use. This phone is quick, much smoother compared to any iPhone i've used.
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+10, and much more customisable

The phone can lag a little in settings menu and with Sony launcher but aside from that it settles down once you've had it a while. I can't explain why.
I use dolphin browser as the stock browser and chrome are a little laggy. Dolphins not perfect but right now it's faster and has much less lag.

Non I'm root but I need to unlock bootloader to be able to install Custom Rom And I don't want to loose my warranty... XZ seems to have so much problems don't want to loose my money

[Q] Should i buy LG 4X HD ???

hi guys
i have LG optimus P920 3D
i want to buy LG 4X P880
i want your advice guys is that a good phone???
can it run heavy games ??? because with antutu benchmark v.2.9.2 gpu scores 1500 and my phone scores 1400 with the same version of antutu
(screenshots in the attachments)
so ULP geforce = powerVR SGX540 ??? or faster???
does it lag or freeze if i run many things like playing a heavy game while running music??
i saw a post here someone complain of low RAM ?? is that true??
so please people kindly post your opinions about that phone ( good things ,bad things or any opinion)
is that a good choice or you recommend me another phone??
thank you in advance

mktns said:
hi guys
so please people kindly post your opinions about that phone ( good things ,bad things or any opinion)
thank you in advance
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Im not heavy gamer, but
From my experience this phone has bad performance on heavy tasks - because CPU can become VERY hot and on stock rom and kernel there is ridiculous cpu temperature threshold.
Of course you can install some custom roms and kernels - which makes things little bit better.

Sry, but every people that say 1 GB of Ram is small is a idiot.
I have the phone with CM 10.1 and currently Kholk kernel.
Its very smooth,battery saved and the tunned screen colors kills me <3
I have played NOVA 3 and on this kernel its hasnt got lag.
When you buy this phone. (And would like have warranty and a smooth phone then)
1.Root it
2.Delete all Bloatware
When you like flash a stock ROM like (Zaiben)
When for you warranty its not important then.
1.Unlock the Bootloader
2. root it
3.Flash CWM
4. Flash CM 10.1
5. flash a custom kernel the you like.
And you will have a super smooth phone ( Thousand times better than S3)
LG 4X HD - Better than a Smartphone

Buy it, its a great phone for the money, handles all games and that kind of **** good. Personally i stay with stock lg firmware, like it more than cm.

mktns said:
hi guys
i have LG optimus P920 3D
i want to buy LG 4X P880
i want your advice guys is that a good phone???
can it run heavy games ??? because with antutu benchmark v.2.9.2 gpu scores 1500 and my phone scores 1400 with the same version of antutu
(screenshots in the attachments)
so ULP geforce = powerVR SGX540 ??? or faster???
does it lag or freeze if i run many things like playing a heavy game while running music??
i saw a post here someone complain of low RAM ?? is that true??
so please people kindly post your opinions about that phone ( good things ,bad things or any opinion)
is that a good choice or you recommend me another phone??
thank you in advance
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No. Go for Nexus 4. Believe me 2 times better in lesser price. Always lates android and clean. No lag for sure in Nexus 4.
Go for Nexus 4. Trust me.

Subhajitdas298 said:
No. Go for Nexus 4. Believe me 2 times better in lesser price. Always lates android and clean. No lag for sure in Nexus 4.
Go for Nexus 4. Trust me.
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I agree
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mktns said:
hi guys
i have LG optimus P920 3D
i want to buy LG 4X P880
i want your advice guys is that a good phone???
can it run heavy games ??? because with antutu benchmark v.2.9.2 gpu scores 1500 and my phone scores 1400 with the same version of antutu
(screenshots in the attachments)
so ULP geforce = powerVR SGX540 ??? or faster???
does it lag or freeze if i run many things like playing a heavy game while running music??
i saw a post here someone complain of low RAM ?? is that true??
so please people kindly post your opinions about that phone ( good things ,bad things or any opinion)
is that a good choice or you recommend me another phone??
thank you in advance
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For what i think , its a really good phone rated at a affordable price. You get all the extras a top android phone needs + expendable storage and removable battery ,which Nexus 4 doesnt have. I upgraded from an EVO 3D and i dont regret it. Its a good choice ,buy it.

thank you all for your opinions
i actually like LG nexus 4....adreno 320 gpu....2 gb ram ....latest "up to date" android version.... IPS+ screen
the only thing i hate most about Nexus 4 is the back.home and menu buttons within the screen which make the screen smaller than 4.7 AND the non-removable battery because i am a heavy mobile gamer i like to have a spare battery i don't care about card slot i don't need more than 16 gb storage
BUT 4X HD has wider screen and removable battery .... and the Tegra3 effects in games are really amazing
Antutu benchmark : LG Nexus 4.... 18096
LG 4X HD .....14297
i am really confused
http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2940
http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=261

I am too deciding between nexus 4 and 4x hd.
In my country I can find 4x hd for 240 eur. Nexus 4 16gb is 320eur so I don't know does nexus 4 really worth 80 eur more.

The benchmark are not really representative! And many people get more than 15000 with Antutu
The N4 has last Google updates but now that we have the official CyanogenMod support we'll have Android 4.3 and also probably 5.0 Key Lime Pie.
We do not have as many roms and kernel as the N4 but we have the better one and great kernels. and you won't get lost with hundreds roms in the O4X forums
I'm using Jellybeer + Iodak v006 and my phone is absolutely smooth, I can play all games I want without any lags and i do not have that persistant navbar under the screen. :thumbup:
Also I think that the O4X is much more beautiful than the N4 but that's a personal opinion.
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Oh and just a thing I forgot, the O4X has the best screen I ever seen. One of my friend has got the Xperia Z and he admitted that my screen was better.
Watching films and playing beautiful games is amazing on this phone
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Subhajitdas298 said:
No. Go for Nexus 4. Believe me 2 times better in lesser price. Always lates android and clean. No lag for sure in Nexus 4.
Go for Nexus 4. Trust me.
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If you live in any of the 8 countries where there is google play store, then the nexus 4 would be pretty cheap, but for its lack of a microSD card and no removable battery, expect a maximum life of 2 years because of the battery. Not having a microSD also has the problem of that you cant store any data, dunno if it is possible post android 4.0 to port apps to the sdcard(Damn you google).
My advice, wait for the S4 to lose in price or wait for the optimus G2. Lg products have a tendency to lose value pretty fast if you are willing to wait for more than 6 months.
If not, and money is the issue, get this phone. I dont know about gaming, but the screen is good and you can root it to remove bloatware.
Get an S3 if you want an AMOLED screen.

I'd recommend it to anyone who asks on xda-developers. The phone is great, but the LG stock software could have issues with battery draining, laggy (maybe more maybe less).
You are asking on xda-developers, so you are likely open to tweak your phone (ROM/Kernel) and most of the issues have been corrected by the community.
So yes, i'd buy it again. Display, Design, Speed are the main pros, battery is also ok - 3 hours screen on time should be obtainable so it's 1d normal use.

thank you all for your answers
i think i am gonna buy LG Nexus 4
but i will wait to collect more money so i am gonna wait some time and work much to get Nexus 4 ASAP
Thank You Guys

Always happy if we (I think I'm going to say something that everybody think) can help
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what about Samsung Galaxy S 3
LG Nexus 4 better or Galaxy S 3 ???
both the same money in my country

S3 all the way... the quality of Sammy support is beyond perfect. Im sure you wont regret buying it, it will also become clear for you from taking a look at the approperiate forums here or elsewhere to see how the dev community are treating it too.. Absolutely not like the 4X HD - has much smaller amount of devs which are developing software/mods for it.
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mktns said:
what about Samsung Galaxy S 3
LG Nexus 4 better or Galaxy S 3 ???
both the same money in my country
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I have the GS3, before it I had the 4XHD and I can say that GS3 is better, a thousand times better (camera, performance, design, battery, a lot of ROMS for it....)

GiulioPasini said:
I have the GS3, before it I had the 4XHD and I can say that GS3 is better, a thousand times better (camera, performance, design, battery, a lot of ROMS for it....)
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guys
i am saying NEXUS 4 vs Galaxy S3
NOT optimus 4X vs S3
which is better ?? NEXUS 4 or Galaxy S3

mktns said:
guys
i am saying NEXUS 4 vs Galaxy S3
NOT optimus 4X vs S3
which is better ?? NEXUS 4 or Galaxy S3
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Let me remind you that you are on the O4X forum, if you want to talk about two other devices go on their forum!
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GiulioPasini said:
I have the GS3, before it I had the 4XHD and I can say that GS3 is better, a thousand times better (camera, performance, design, battery, a lot of ROMS for it....)
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Sudden death, oh my troubles were far away when it was yesterday.
Suuudden death oh suudden death.
How far can somebody go and exaggerate that the S3 is 1000 better. If it was 1000 times better, it would not have a restarting bug, SDS, non-Standard MHL port and pentile OLED.
Its a "Should I buy it " thread, not "OMG this is the best thing since sliced bread thread"
mktns said:
guys
i am saying NEXUS 4 vs Galaxy S3
NOT optimus 4X vs S3
which is better ?? NEXUS 4 or Galaxy S3
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Go ask that in the General Discussion, not in the LG 4X subforum. The last thing I want to read about is somebody writing about the Nexus or the S3 in a LG sub forum.
I hate these Nexus-Samsung fanboys more than apple fanboys.

[Q] Exchanging SII with NOTE __ Worth it?

Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.

walkermoon said:
Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.
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It's barely noticeable slower. Specially in screens transitions and scrolling through lists that have images.
Maybe because of the higher resolution of the screen.
But in my opinion totally worth the upgrade
The bigger screen makes watching videos and playing games an amazing experience

Total worth the upgrade mate.
Go ahead and do it. Good luck :thumbup:
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Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.

As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.

walkermoon said:
Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.
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The pixels are rendered by the GPU, not the CPU, but yes, they are also the same, and it's the reason for the difference.
It can get pretty smooth tough. Don't worry about performance. You won't have any trouble

projeto56;43692282pixels are rendered by the GPU said:
sherbibv said:
As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.
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Thanks guys
Getting it tommorow
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Thanks to all.
Got Note finally. And after a month of use I don't think I would look back. Cheers.

Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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jakuburban said:
Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.

walkermoon said:
I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.
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Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )

jakuburban said:
Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )
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Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.

walkermoon said:
Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.
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Yeah, give me too hehe.
I would like to see all those hovering etc. stuff. Maybe it will be possible if official 4.3 comes out to note 2 and then it will be ported to our note.
But I don't think so

And the throwing part.. I feel exactly like you.. Lost brothers? Lol

I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol

walkermoon said:
I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol
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Ok, the older android versions don't require so good specs, but there shouldn't be such a big difference between ics and jb. I hope the notes 2 official android 4.3 will be ported to our old note 1.
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The HTC One

Hey guys I'm in need of an upgrade and I think the HTC One is the answer!
I was wondering if you could please give me feedback on your experience so far.
All I know about the cons like
Can't change battery
No SD card...
So how is the battery life etc??
Thanks
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Battery life is normal. Like another smartphone. Not as good as SIV but normal. Day and a half with normal use... Is no SD card, bad thing but 32 or 64 gb is a good amount of space. Performance for me is the best smartphone. Is absolutely awesome .
Buuut camera... Is a not bad camera, but like you can read one time and another in this forum, camera have a lot of issues and problems....

TechMennis said:
Hey guys I'm in need of an upgrade and I think the HTC One is the answer!
I was wondering if you could please give me feedback on your experience so far.
All I know about the cons like
Can't change battery
No SD card...
So how is the battery life etc??
Thanks
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txordi said:
Battery life is normal. Like another smartphone. Not as good as SIV but normal. Day and a half with normal use... Is no SD card, bad thing but 32 or 64 gb is a good amount of space. Performance for me is the best smartphone. Is absolutely awesome .
Buuut camera... Is a not bad camera, but like you can read one time and another in this forum, camera have a lot of issues and problems....
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like already said, with normal use you'll get 1,5 days out of it. the camera issues are not present on every device (purple dust on very dark pictures) and we don't exactly know if it's a software or a hardware issue. we'll see if it got fixed when 4.3 comes out officially.

i exachanged my i9500 to one 802w dual sim and batt life is THE SAME. That means in 9500 batt life is worse that htc one international.

I have the black HTC One and my girlfriend has the silver.
Both running Android Revolution HD 21.0 and Elemental X kernel 5.2
Both our phones will last a whole work day starting at 9am and ending around 8pm. She's a real estate agent so she's always on phone calls and I do IT so I use mine primarily for scheduling, web browsing and text.
Phone is fast, camera is absolutely amazing and I cannot recommend this phone enough!

I've had mine for a little over a month and love it.
I find that the 32gb is enough for my apps, music and some movies (even if you need some more space there are external storage options).
I haven't had any serious issues with the camera in my device although focousing in low light can be a hastle - by the way the burst feature is fantastic. Something to be noted although the camera is only 4mp the quality of those pixels is very good. HDR is a really great option too if you have a steady hand or a place to rest your phone while you take the photo.
I had a bit of trouble wraping my head around the Sense UI but Apex fixed that in a jiffy. On the subject of Sense I do have a slight fondness for the lock screen and use it.
Now I will be the frist to admit this was a huge step up from my old LG Optimus Black but this is a serious piece of hardware.

I have nothing else to add on what's already been said expect there is a way around the purple haze in low light camera shots. All I do is lower the iso in the camera app to 100 or 200 and use the flash. Works a treat till a fix comes along. This doesn't work in HDR camera mode though as the iso isn't adjustable in HDR.
Apart from the above the phone is fantastic and feels well built. Take the plunge and get one, you won't regret it!