i9300 worth $160 extra ? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone, I'm torn between buying the Galaxy S2 i9100 dual core, 4.3'' screen vs the S3 i9300, US dual core version.
I can get the S2 for $171 unlocked and the S3 for $331 unlocked with no plan. Is it worth paying $160 extra for the S3 ?
I've been checking forums, reviews, side by side comparisons but I want some opinions from people who owned both. There's too much hype around the S3 and I'm not convinced it's a huge improvement.
I actually like the form factor of the S2 more than the S3 but I'm wondering if it's easier to browse the web and read e-books on the S3 or should I say, how much easier ? I'm also looking for a travel companion: the GPS and wi-fi has to be reliable and the reviews don't really touch on these features. Does the S3 have better signal ?
From what I understand, the S2 supports mini SD cards while the S3 supports mini-SDHC cards, what's the difference ?
I'm not interested in gaming performance or video playback.

I had both S2 and S3 in my hands. If u are fine with the size of the S3 then that's ur option . S3 runs smoother in apps and web and the display is much brighter and i really enjoyed the higher resolution, so better for reading aswell. I only tested the S2 with ICS because it got updated to JB just a short while ago so maybe the JB on S3 mattered in the comparison. About the SD card, actually they bot use microSD (max 32GB for S2 and 64GB for S3) and not mini as u said (the SDHC means high capacity, just a term used for the 4,8,16,32GB etc; SD was used for the low capacity cards <1GB) .
My opinion: don't spend twice the money on something that is only ~25% better than the S2 (talking about daily use, not games), unless you really need the bigger display or you really, really like the quality of the display compared to S2.

wouldnt this be more at home in the s2 thread? not trying to be mean just saying :fingers-crossed:

lkawiti said:
wouldnt this be more at home in the s2 thread? not trying to be mean just saying :fingers-crossed:
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Agree, but maybe he owns a i9000 now and he feels more "like home" posting it here

If ebooks are important to you, you can buy kindle < 160$ + SGS 2. I think there's no big difference between sgs 3 and 2 if games don't matter.

belgarion98 said:
If ebooks are important to you, you can buy kindle < 160$ + SGS 2. I think there's no big difference between sgs 3 and 2 if games don't matter.
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Agree :good: .And you can't compare the reading experience on kindle, is much better than any lcd/led screen.

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Sell or not to sell my gnote?

One friend of mine saw my gnote and want to buy it.
The question is how much to sell it and worth to sell it and buy the galaxy s3 or wait for note 2?
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giorgosfl said:
One friend of mine saw my gnote and want to buy it.
The question is how much to sell it and worth to sell it and buy the galaxy s3 or wait for note 2?
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Personal preference really..
I could not go back to a smaller screen now I don't think so rules the S3 out..
Screen is much MUCH smaller when you use s3, especially bc it is 16:9.
If you do not have black clipping issue on your Note, I advise you to stick to it forever
Save this image and open it in galery. If you see numbers below 11, you have a black clipping issue. It is TOLERABLE if you see 8. Below 8: sell it
you are in the Galaxy Note section so people will tell you to keep the Note. on the other hand i have used the Note for a while and just recently switched to the S3. i say give the S3 a shot as it will last around 2 years or so and you won't have to change phones. the screen isn't THAT small. its still a pretty big handset compared to the general population of smartphones out there. personally i like it and if i need to watch something on a bigger screen i'd use my Galaxy Tab 7.7 or LED TV for that. but for a "phone" the S3 is pretty good, i love the camera it responds faster than the Note or any older model (even if you can use Fast Burst Camera, the quality of the S3 is far better due to the quadcore making it faster to process images in a jiffy). but if you're on a budget, the Note will serve you well for quite some time. screen wise it is still a SAMOLED display and it is still big.
i on the other hand, will be waiting for the Note 2 and will stick with my S3 at the same time (i have 2 carriers in use so its a win-win)
goodluck in deciding my friend. oh and if you decide to sell, sell it now because time will depreciate ALL values of phones. no phone will ever stick with its price tag. remember that :laugh:
When you compare S3 screen with a 4.3 16:10 it is practically the same. I sold my Note and wanted to buy HoX or SIII but the screen is much smaller then Note and I will probably buy note again if I find one without a black clipping issue. I had htc HD2 before Note and I can say that the transition to s3 is minimal (comparing the screen sizes). Moreover, the screen on hd2 looks, and probably is, wider. Who likes big screens and had a Note will never buy any phone below it. I also have to add that Note is more towards a tablet than phone. But it is a pleasure to use. And I do not get the thing you said "if you are on a budget, the Note...". It is ~60 euros cheaper than S3, what the hell are you talking about? If that's "on a budget", than you must be a rich rich man
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Screen is much MUCH smaller when you use s3, especially bc it is 16:9.
If you do not have black clipping issue on your Note, I advise you to stick to it forever
Save this image and open it in galery. If you see numbers below 11, you have a black clipping issue. It is TOLERABLE if you see 8. Below 8: sell it
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If that's "on a budget", than you must be a rich rich man
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hahaha, sorry about that probably
the Note is nice, it served me well for quite some time. but my G-Tab 7.7 kinda rendered it useless. i'm not that much of an S-Pen user so maybe that's why i gave up on the Note easily.
for people who want to use their phone as something all in one, and want the big screen without caring about the quadcore and fast camera, yes to the Note. i mean i haven't even reached a point where i have to use all 4 cores of my S3, so dual core is still good. but c'mon, Note 2 will be exquisite, i'm expecting it to make my S3 obsolete so i won't have too many smartphones in hand.
EDIT: i know why i said that part, the Note is a whole lot cheaper in my country compared to the S3. the S3 here is around $680 while the Note is around $470. (had to calculate everything and convert hehehe)
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maybe he's referring to this image
also i am wondering about the development section on s3 because with the note section i am very happy with it.
I agreed with people say when you are using a big screen, you won't go back to small screen.
Note 2 have 5.5" screen and quad-core CPU. Hardware prices going down very quickly, personally, I would recommend your friend to wait for Note 2, and you stick onto SGN until it is worn out, probably there will be Note 3 by that time. ^.^

Should I buy the S III Mini?

Hi guys,
Asking for your advice, it's new phone time and I have a BlackBerry Curve 9320, the only thing it's got going for it is BBM. I did have a Sony Xperia U but it was slower than even the BlackBerry! I was fond of Android but when it was able to run smooth for short periods on that phone but eventually I couldn't take it anymore and I got a BB. Anyway I had enough of the BlackBerry now as it's had it's fair share of knocks etc. Taking into consideration that BBM is coming to Android and iOS in the coming months and that Android apps can be run on BB OS10 I am in two minds whether to go for a Samsung S3 Mini or a BlackBerry Q5? I like both phones but since the S3 Mini has been around for at least 6 months I am wondering will it be a fast phone with the 1Ghz dual core processer and 1GB of RAM? Any help? What do you guys think of your S3 Mini's?
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Hi guys,
Asking for your advice, it's new phone time and I have a BlackBerry Curve 9320, the only thing it's got going for it is BBM. I did have a Sony Xperia U but it was slower than even the BlackBerry! I was fond of Android but when it was able to run smooth for short periods on that phone but eventually I couldn't take it anymore and I got a BB. Anyway I had enough of the BlackBerry now as it's had it's fair share of knocks etc. Taking into consideration that BBM is coming to Android and iOS in the coming months and that Android apps can be run on BB OS10 I am in two minds whether to go for a Samsung S3 Mini or a BlackBerry Q5? I like both phones but since the S3 Mini has been around for at least 6 months I am wondering will it be a fast phone with the 1Ghz dual core processer and 1GB of RAM? Any help? What do you guys think of your S3 Mini's?
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I would consider the alternatives if I were you.. If you have something like the Galaxy S II or the Galaxy S II Plus at nearly the same price as the S3 Mini, get that. Or wait for the S4 Mini, huge upgrade over the S3 Mini.
Yeah wait for S4 MINI , though quite expensive at nearly £400's.
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If i was you now i would go for gnexus4, used are quite cheap.. Around 250-300e.
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dont buy this phone.... pour develop to this phone... no original root... and do not consider s4 mini it will be same crap....
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dont buy this phone.... pour develop to this phone... no original root... and do not consider s4 mini it will be same crap....
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S4 Mini has Snapdragon processor. So its sources won't be private like ours.
If you ever tried to develop anything you would appreciate time, and hard work that has been put into development. So with all due respect gtfo.
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I wouldnt buy it. I have it 4 months and I never really took to it. Its about to be replaced by the S4 mini so it will be obsolete soon enough.
S3 mini
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dont buy this phone.... pour develop to this phone... no original root... and do not consider s4 mini it will be same crap....
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the last time i checked this was a developers forum and not an end users forum
have you actually done any ROM or app development to contribute to these forums?
show some respect to the developers here
clearly you have not done any research into why there is not much development for this phone, otherwise you wouldn't be saying the crap that you are saying
@thejamesrankin
if you had done a search you would have seen some comments on existing threads on what people thought of this phone
it's a great phone if you are happy with stock considering the money that you pay for it
if you want a phone that you can do dev on then i would recommend going for a phone that has a snapdragon processor
@efaustino84
I want to ask almost the same question, but I currently have Samsung Galaxy Gio, I want to buy a new mobile phone but with limited money availability, I am considering Galaxy S III Mini, in my country it's around $280, what I want to ask about is:
Is it fast and very stable ?
Can it stand a good number of apps without getting slow ?
Is it really good for it's price ? Or there is better mobile phones with same price ?
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@efaustino84
I want to ask almost the same question, but I currently have Samsung Galaxy Gio, I want to buy a new mobile phone but with limited money availability, I am considering Galaxy S III Mini, in my country it's around $280, what I want to ask about is:
Is it fast and very stable ?
Can it stand a good number of apps without getting slow ?
Is it really good for it's price ? Or there is better mobile phones with same price ?
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i think it is a decent phone for an end user with a limited budget
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-1108587/review
http://reviews.uk.samsung.com/7463-...samsung-galaxy-s-iii-mini-reviews/reviews.htm
@efaustino84
Thanks a lot.
Well, I surfed a little in development things since my Gio has a really low internal memory so I searched a lot to get a light ROM for it, but for the S III Mini I won't need a similar thing, will I ?
Coming from LG Optimus Black, I have little to no complaints about S3 mini.
But, I wish I would have bought the LG L7 II over the s3 mini as it's far more cheaper but a little downgrade from s3 mini but overall pretty same specs to me.
I never used all the 1gb ram anyway, 768mb is all I need.
Got the phone 3 days ago guys! LOVE IT! Best phone I have spent money one, it's worth every penny I spent. The build quality comparable only to the Nokia 6300 and Samsung Galaxy Ace I have owned years ago. The screen is lovely, I have never owned a phone with an amoled screen before but I thought they looked pretty when I seen them on other people's phones. Now I can truly appreciate the amoled screen and how it makes blacks look truly black and colours stand out so bright. Obviously for someone who is coming from a Blackberry I think it is a very smooth, fast phone. I have yet to see it lag. I think it eats up the battery a bit too quick though but I think it's my fault and I will do a quick search to see what it brings up in relation to power saving. Now I am on the look out for a theme that resembles the Samsung theme but darker or even pitch black I think it would be cool. Also a way to change the lock sound would be nice to know about?
James.
Very nice device but as from this afternoon I will be an owner of a Samsung I9305 Galaxy S III 16GB mainly due to 4G and my country provider upgrade package.
My son will be very happy to receive the SIII Mini
Thanks to all Devs for their support and ingenuity.

Tab S vs Tab 4 10.1 vs Tab Pro 12.2...which one?

Just saw four Sammy tablets at my local Costco:
Galaxy Tab 4 7": $160
Galaxy Tab 4 10.1: $300
Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2: $530
Galaxy Tab S 10.5: $480
I would like something bigger than 7". Can anyone give some pros and cons as to why I would choose a Tab S over Tab 4 10.1 or Tab Pro 12.2 (ignoring cost).
I have looked on some different techy sites for comparisons and am still none the wiser so figured the faithful at XDA would be able to give a real-world comparison/input as to why the different models would be chosen. The 12.2 seems huge - great for movies and other larger requirements, but I've heard the Tab S screen is exceptional.
Sigh...which one do I choose...?
Honest opinion #1
Any bigger than 8.4 you should just buy a laptop.
Snapdragon rules so that rules out the Tab S .
Go with the Tab Pro series
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Honest Opinion #2
I personally have bought the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and previously had the Note 8. Now I cannot give you real life experience because mine is still in the mail but the reason why I chose it was to replace my current windows 8. I have a Samsung Smart 500t PC and it recently has crapped out so I decided to get a replacement. I ultimately chose the 10.5 for multiple reasons:
1. This is going to be my "main" mobile device, I am going to use it for work, meetings, etc. I wanted something more portable than a laptop but bigger than an 8.
2. From my research, the Tab 4 series doesn't have much support. In fact, looking for reviews from the "big" tech companies was difficult to find. I wouldn't want to get a device knowing that there isn't much support right off the bat.
3. Galaxy Tab S is the newest of the Samsung Tabs and thus has the highest chance of getting an Android L upgrade (if Samsung decided to do)
4. Of course the SCREEN is beautiful from what I have seen.
It was a bit pricey but you can find some good deals off of ebay. I got mine for about $439 new free shipping insured.
I'll add that I do own the Tab S 8.4 (SM-T700) and it is nice,it's just the future for kernels are limited.some who notice when I post I always mention that this Tab S is slick on AOSP
Got for Galaxy Tab S 10.5, nice screen.. perfect size for magazine reading as you dont need to keep zooming in and out.
Movies looks great. Very light to hold. Great cover
Cons: Exynos and hard to hold in protrait due to small bezel.
I went to a store and compared them all before I bought the tab s. The Note Pro 12.5 is great, but it's to heavy for me.
I was looking for a tablet for watching movies and reading comics on while chilling in bed
Pros
Tab S screen IS exceptional.
It's ultra thin and light.
Looks very stylish
Fast and smooth
Cons
The hardware buttons when in portrait mode due to the ultra thin bezel. (Yes it can be solved by rooting etc.) but there's really no need to have them on a tablet. As I read a lot on my tablets in portrait mode the back button really frustrates me and I keep closing my magazines and comics by mistake. Its no deal breaker however.
I cant really come up with any cons except that tbh
i love the screen on the tab s, i find it very easy on the eyes for reading and movies.
That and the weight is about all i love though. the rest is just ok.
What are you going to use it for? The Tab 4's have 1,280x800 displays which by today's standards are pretty poor and will be painful for reading text. The Tab 4 7 has 8GB of storage and the 10 has 16GB. With the way 4.4 manages external storage and some media apps only supporting internal storage 8GB is woefully inadequate and 16GB borderline. They both have just adequate CPU/GPUs and you'll feel the lack of power in multitasking and anything graphic intensive. You get what you pay for.
The 12" tablets are huge. I don't know how someone could seriously compare a 7" tablet and a 12" tablet. I have a 5.7" N3 so 10" is the sweet spot for me between screen real estate and portability. I'm a productivity user though so anything less than 10" is too small to get any serious creation or office work done. From a portability perspective the difference between 7-8.4" isn't a big deal - you're not going to stick any of them in your back pocket. 7" tablets, in my opinion, are just too small to really enjoy media and browse the web without constantly zooming pages to read them. Samsung's high-end tablets have a lot of s/w features (EG: Multiview, Scrap Book, eMeeting, SideSync, Hancom Office) that, even if available on the 4's, wouldn't perform well because of lack of SoC power and RAM.
So first, think about what's important feature and performance wise and then think about size. And really consider the display. The Pro's and S' have beautiful 2,560x1,600 displays with high PPI that really are a joy to view. Tab 4's not so much.
Here's a size comparison...
I wanted to add to this as I've owned a few tablets lately, right now I have the tab s 10.5. I had a tab pro 4 10.1, pass. You won't be happy. It's performance is OK but the screen isn't that great. Plus the lack of vibrate and light sensors just made it feel cheap, I sold mine for 60 bucks, no regrets. I had an iPad air for a bit but I took it back as I tend to leave a lot of things running and, I just didn't like it overall. Now, the tab s. Had it about a week and I've disabled a lot of things and I have apex installed. However I think it's the best tablet I've owned. It's perfectly fast, I've not had a single hiccup doing anything. I love the processor, personally. The screen is amazing although I dialed mine back to the basic setting I find it more accurate that way. Seriously, this was 500 bucks. I a most wish I could not like it so I could return it but I just can't find any faults. I've tried but this is one brilliant machine. I could live without the bloat but like I said I disabled most of it anyway and apex took care of magazine ux. Sure the benchmarks will show snapdragon doing better and even the iPad air but consider this:I found a review that showed the Puffin browser blew every browser away I'm benchmark tests. It wasn't even close so I took UC off and paid for puffin. It's performance was so abysmal I got a refund and put uc back on. I am very happy with the tab s. The titanium bronze just looks superb and it's overall performance is stunning. I didn't want to believe I could like something better than an iPad but Samsung hit it out of the park. If you have the money buy the tab s 10.5 and thank me later. Don't listen to anyone who doesn't have one.
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Honest opinion #1
Any bigger than 8.4 you should just buy a laptop....
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Let me guess. You are under 50, right? Some of us really need that bigger screen. Of course there are plenty of other reasons for preferring a larger screen. All boils down to personal needs and preferences so blanket statements are always wrong for a certain percentage of users.
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Let me guess. You are under 50, right? Some of us really need that bigger screen. Of course there are plenty of other reasons for preferring a larger screen. All boils down to personal needs and preferences so blanket statements are always wrong for a certain percentage of users.
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Good guess but wow I didn't think I would hit a nerve. I am sorry I stated an "opinion" .I understand now why someone would want a bigger tablet
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I had a tab pro 4 10.1, pass. You won't be happy. It's performance is OK but the screen isn't that great. Plus the lack of vibrate and light sensors just made it feel cheap, I sold mine for 60 bucks, no regrets. I had an iPad air for a bit but I took it back as I tend to leave a lot of things running and, I just didn't like it overall.
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All Samsung's high-end Wi-Fi tablets use the same Exynos 5420 CPU and Mail 628 GPU. The Pro 10.1 has 2GB of RAM vs. 3GB on the Tab S but I've never seen any multitasking complaints on the Pro forum. I've used all Samsung's high-end tablets on 4.4 from the N10.1-14 on. Those with M-UX are laggier than the N10.1-14 without it. The Pro's seem a bit more fluid than the S' but its most likely due to the S' using V1.0 video drivers where the Note/Pro's have been updated about four times. There's a ton of posts in various threads here where former Note/Pro users with Tab S' have commented on a perceived increase in lag in moving to the S. So your experience is definitely different. In using all the tablets none struck me as so different performance wise that I'd be swayed in to buying one over the other solely because of it. That includes S-800 vs. Exynos 5420 (caveat: I'm not a gamer).
Samsung's 2,560x1,600 LCD panels are great and have been rated so in objective testing. They draw less power overall than the AMOLED panels on the S' because their RGBW PenTile and do exceptionally better on whites which kill AMOLED battery life. Most productivity and creation apps utilize light backgrounds so the Pro's would be a better choice battery life wise for productivity and web users and heavy readers. There's no doubt the S' display blacks better and offer better contrast but it doesn't make Samsung's high-end LCDs cow dung either. I'm a heavy productivity user and the S' display would absolutely kill me.
Are you sure you had a Pro 10.1? This is from the T-520 manual...
Moral of the story is people should buy what makes them happy, draw their own conclusions based on hands-on time, and realize opinions (including mine ) are just that.
It was the tab 4 10.1 my apologies. When I bought this tab s btw I was lookng for the pro in 10.1 for $399. My thoughts were if they didn't have any I'd look for a laptop about in that range or just gwt another ipad air. But as she was unlocking the case I spotted "S". I had my credit card out before she pulled the box out. But the price being $499 almost stopped me which is why I compared it to the Air becau of price only. But I bought the S and like I said I keep the display on basic and disabled everything I could without root. I use Apex pro and I should also mention I use no widgets and a plain background. I do leave a lot of stuff running but still for me performace has been flawless. I can even attest to the WiFi being more powerful than the air as I'm on the road a lot and pick up wifi whereever I can and this is just been the best overall tablet experience I've had.
Yes I would agree the Amoled use more power overall but I keep everything I can themed dark. Also I had a nexus 10 and agree the LCD screens are brilliant. In many ways better
Amoled probably comes down to preference. Or for me I was on the road stopped at the first walmart I could find and they had one. I'm glad. I just wanted to heartily endorse the tab s (10.5). Maybe the only thing I could say is that I liked the feel of Apple's aluminum casing but the titanium bronze has a beauty all its own.
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No worries; your experience being with a Tab 4 vs. a Pro explains a lot. With Samsung carpet bombing the tablet market it's very confusing to the consumer what they're actually buying. I think that's intentional to a degree.
This for $319 looks like a great deal...
...when compared to this for $499
And to the masses, maybe it is. Their standards are a lot lower than an XDA audience's.
Thanks very much for all the (informative and helpful) replies.
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With Samsung carpet bombing the tablet market it's very confusing to the consumer what they're actually buying. I think that's intentional to a degree.
Their standards are a lot lower than an XDA audience's.
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And this is why I came to XDA to ask opinions and suggestions -- I get real world helpful information rather than columns of comparisons on other sites which don't mean much. I'm just your average tablet user...but f I am going to save and buy one...I want to get the best bang-for-the-buck as I won't be buying a tablet every year!
IconBoy said:
Thanks very much for all the (informative and helpful) replies.
And this is why I came to XDA to ask opinions and suggestions -- I get real world helpful information rather than columns of comparisons on other sites which don't mean much. I'm just your average tablet user...but f I am going to save and buy one...I want to get the best bang-for-the-buck as I won't be buying a tablet every year!
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I think the best all around is the pro 10.1 inch. Don't get the tab 4 it's $80 more for the pro and you get so much more, the display alone is worth the extra $. Like I said I love the tab S but it just so happened it's what they had. I would say it's well worth the asking price. Stunning 10.5 inch display, performance is stellar, much better than I expected. Had it about a week and I can't bring myself to return it. I returned the nexus 10, sold the tab 4 and returned the iPad air. I look for reasons it seems but I just haven't found a thing to dislike. I even tried since yesterday it just fits me too well.
I just realized the tab pro 10.1 isn't on the list. Get the tab S. Obviously I am biased, but happily.
i own the Tab Pro 10.1 which has better specs than the Tab 4 and also have the Tab S 10.5 and the difference from the extra 1GB Ram and the much updated Touchwiz version of the Tab S makes me not like the Pro 10.1 that much anymore. also the Tab S has much better accessory options in the case keyboard area.
if you are buying something to use for more than 1+ years than spend the money and get the S
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i am not using a 3rd party keyboard (video 1)
or
a 3rd party launcher (video 2)
and so i am not having these issues with my Stock TW Tab S 10.5
not saying its your 3rd party apps but saying that is not my experience with my Tab S 10.5
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i am not using a 3rd party keyboard (video 1)
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a 3rd party launcher (video 2)
and so i am not having these issues with my Stock TW Tab S 10.5
not saying its your 3rd party apps but saying that is not my experience with my Tab S 10.5
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At this price point, and this late in the game in android, this is a joke!
A Joke.

Though about tab S4

I m using galaxy tab s 10.4 since past 3 year.
It on stock ROM without root. Primary usage of this tablet is media consumption and I use it for watching movies.
Tab is showing it's age and heat while watching videos Netflix and prime app. I think this is because some strong DRM protection which old chip not handle efficiently.
Now when tab S4 arrived with same aspects ratio that is perfect for media consumption and my tab s is showing age. It's best time to buy new device.
But I don't see much improved of tab S4 screen compare to old tab s
What you guys think about new tab S4 ?
Are you planning to buy new tab S4 ? Or keep using old tab s ?
Well, the screens are about the same, yes.
But everything else has changed. The S4 will have a much newer and more efficient chip - and it will be a snapdragon 835. I'd say that if your current tab does pretty much all you need it to do...
The prices of the S4 are going to be quite high initially, after 6 mo to a year they'll drop quite a bit.
It's good to see Samsung still trying to push their TAB S line-up, but it's an obvious fail attempt.
- No improvements on screen
- 2 year old SOC (fades completely when comparing with the much cheaper Ipad)
- Too narrow screen borders, no place to grab your tablet properly
- No fingerprint reader
- Too expensive for the specs
Just another failed attempt.
The only good thing about this, IMO, is the price drop on the TAB S3.
Just to start the S1 T805 is slightly smaller and thinner and lighter than the new S4, see comparision in the link below.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9262&idPhone2=6235
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What you guys think about new tab S4 ?
Are you planning to buy new tab S4 ? Or keep using old tab s ?
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I don't think the Tab S4 is worth its MSRP price if all you will do with it is media consumption. They clearly intend it to be some kind of a business-oriented 2-in-1 productivity and media device. I'd look at the new more affordable 2018 Galaxy Tab A 10.5, but if Samsung prices it like an iPad, I'd rather buy something like Amazon Fire HD 10 (the US price is just 149USD)
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pacc said:
It's good to see Samsung still trying to push their TAB S line-up, but it's an obvious fail attempt.
- No improvements on screen
- 2 year old SOC (fades completely when comparing with the much cheaper Ipad)
- Too narrow screen borders, no place to grab your tablet properly
- No fingerprint reader
- Too expensive for the specs
Just another failed attempt.
The only good thing about this, IMO, is the price drop on the TAB S3.
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And recall the worst thing, you buy a +600USD device that will receive only two years of updates (at best), compared to 4-5 years typical of Apple tablets. No wonder Apple owns the tablet market. Apple is perceived as the premium product, and it's going to be hard to convince average consumers to spend so much cash on Samsung tablets at the time when they lose on specs dollar for dollar. It's great that Samsung continues developing Android tablets, but don't know what Samsung is thinking.
Apple biggest turn-off in tablets for me is the 4:3 screen ratio, never, never, nerver going to buy that, Movies/video`s are my number 1 use.
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Apple biggest turn-off in tablets for me is the 4:3 screen ratio, never, never, nerver going to buy that, Movies/video`s are my number 1 use.
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100% agree.
I bought the Tab S3 a long time, and until today my only 100% regret is the 4:3 ratio, which is an epic fail.
Black bars everywhere on 16:9, 21:9 video, even if you stream onto your 16:9 TV you still get black bars...
In all honesty, I use my tab S1 most of the time (with latest stock marshmallow), and the tab S3 only when the battery of the S1 runs out.
A question to those who got a chance to compare S1 vs S4: does the S1 display look sharper? The S1 display uses an RGB supixel layout vs PenTile in the S4 display, so it should look sharper.. Also Netflix is capped at 720p on the S4 vs 1080p on the S1, unless you use Netfix v5.0 or older.
Edit: fortunately, Samsung still uses the "RGB stripe" subpixel arrangement in their tablet displays. My bad, should have searched the forum before posting.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/help/he-tab-s4-pentile-matrix-display-t3827112/page2

What would you buy to replace your 8.4 Tab S ?

Love my Tab S but thinking on upgrading in the near future. What do you guys think is a honorable replacement?
Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
Akopps said:
Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
artocube said:
Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Huawei is still making nice high end tablet with 8 inch screen (Mediapad M6), but sadly because of trade war, we're not going to see it on our shores.
Akopps said:
Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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I replaced my T-800 with the Tab S4 when Best Buy was blowing them out at $260 or less this past Christmas.
While my Tab S was very sexy and I had the Logitech Type S keyboard I loved it very much it was a no brainer upgrading at that point.
Here is my thread explaining the $260 sale:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13607677-s...-s4-64gb-tablet-wi-fi-black-260-in-store-ymmv
I would expect the S6 is about to go on deep discount soon so I would be on the look out if you're in the market for a new Samsung Tab.
I just sold off my T-800 in perfect shape, I do plan to hold onto my T-700 as Samsung just does not make sexiness like that any longer.
Hi guys I recently tried to understand whether it was possible to replace my Tab S 8.4 LTE and... I'm astonished. Android tablets are dead. I paid 350€ for this tablet at launch so taking into account 6 years of technological development I was expecting to find at the same price the following specs: 64-128gb of storage, 8gb of ram, same screen since oled technology had some troubles advancing, modern high end processor, a camera with not necessarily more pixels but with less noise and more details, no IR because we don't use TVs anymore.
What I found instead was: crappy low end overpriced tablets, with barely any ram, and no advancements whatsoever in productivity applications. The obvious choice would be to go for an x86 Windows tablet... But I don't dare to run Windows with less than 16gb of ram (any browser uses 5-6gb of ram to begin with with my usage scenario) and onestly those tablets have poor battery life and there are no small tablets to begin with. This leaves only the ipad mini... Which I had terrible experience with (ipad mini 2 was dropped from support and update very quickly and became slow as hell with the last updates it received).
Do you guys have any suggestion? Huaway is out of the question... I don't want to be caught in a stupid useless war.
There is no suitable replacement. I use mine as a phone and there is just nothing with as large a display that has an earpiece that you can hold up to your face and make calls with. I now own 3, 2 working, so I have spare parts as bits break.
Actually that is a usage scenario that happened a couple of times. My phone was temporarily down (anything from a bricked rom to a simply drained battery) and I always simply took the sim out of it, stuck into the tablet and continued my day with no problems whatsoever. Before buying this tablet I was super into the Asus transformer line. A phone that you insert in a screen that becomes a tablet with additional battery life, then you attach the keyboard and bump in terms of productivity. They where unreasonably costly to begin with had bad software support, and super died probably because the company got more money selling separate devices. I tried to create my own version of it with a raspberry pi but it was obviously very clunky.
hi you all!
i have been researching about this subejct and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but havent found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellhphones...
seems like the 8 inchers are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
iPostNak3d said:
hi you all!
i have been researching about this subject and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but haven't found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellphones...
seems like the 8 inches are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Are you using a custom rom?
Tab S 10.1
Princeland said:
Are you using a custom rom?
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Hi yes I'm using the latest Lineage OS Deathly (android 7.1). The rom is probably close to its EOL since there is much less activity and updates. ROM. I've undervolted the tab and put an aluminium bar on the SOC to stop it from overheating... I would not describe the experience as high end but it's way better than before. The same developer made roms also for the WIFi only model and for the 2 bigger models.

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