Though about tab S4 - Galaxy Tab S General

I m using galaxy tab s 10.4 since past 3 year.
It on stock ROM without root. Primary usage of this tablet is media consumption and I use it for watching movies.
Tab is showing it's age and heat while watching videos Netflix and prime app. I think this is because some strong DRM protection which old chip not handle efficiently.
Now when tab S4 arrived with same aspects ratio that is perfect for media consumption and my tab s is showing age. It's best time to buy new device.
But I don't see much improved of tab S4 screen compare to old tab s
What you guys think about new tab S4 ?
Are you planning to buy new tab S4 ? Or keep using old tab s ?

Well, the screens are about the same, yes.
But everything else has changed. The S4 will have a much newer and more efficient chip - and it will be a snapdragon 835. I'd say that if your current tab does pretty much all you need it to do...
The prices of the S4 are going to be quite high initially, after 6 mo to a year they'll drop quite a bit.

It's good to see Samsung still trying to push their TAB S line-up, but it's an obvious fail attempt.
- No improvements on screen
- 2 year old SOC (fades completely when comparing with the much cheaper Ipad)
- Too narrow screen borders, no place to grab your tablet properly
- No fingerprint reader
- Too expensive for the specs
Just another failed attempt.
The only good thing about this, IMO, is the price drop on the TAB S3.

Just to start the S1 T805 is slightly smaller and thinner and lighter than the new S4, see comparision in the link below.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9262&idPhone2=6235

ankit360 said:
What you guys think about new tab S4 ?
Are you planning to buy new tab S4 ? Or keep using old tab s ?
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I don't think the Tab S4 is worth its MSRP price if all you will do with it is media consumption. They clearly intend it to be some kind of a business-oriented 2-in-1 productivity and media device. I'd look at the new more affordable 2018 Galaxy Tab A 10.5, but if Samsung prices it like an iPad, I'd rather buy something like Amazon Fire HD 10 (the US price is just 149USD)
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pacc said:
It's good to see Samsung still trying to push their TAB S line-up, but it's an obvious fail attempt.
- No improvements on screen
- 2 year old SOC (fades completely when comparing with the much cheaper Ipad)
- Too narrow screen borders, no place to grab your tablet properly
- No fingerprint reader
- Too expensive for the specs
Just another failed attempt.
The only good thing about this, IMO, is the price drop on the TAB S3.
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And recall the worst thing, you buy a +600USD device that will receive only two years of updates (at best), compared to 4-5 years typical of Apple tablets. No wonder Apple owns the tablet market. Apple is perceived as the premium product, and it's going to be hard to convince average consumers to spend so much cash on Samsung tablets at the time when they lose on specs dollar for dollar. It's great that Samsung continues developing Android tablets, but don't know what Samsung is thinking.

Apple biggest turn-off in tablets for me is the 4:3 screen ratio, never, never, nerver going to buy that, Movies/video`s are my number 1 use.

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Apple biggest turn-off in tablets for me is the 4:3 screen ratio, never, never, nerver going to buy that, Movies/video`s are my number 1 use.
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100% agree.
I bought the Tab S3 a long time, and until today my only 100% regret is the 4:3 ratio, which is an epic fail.
Black bars everywhere on 16:9, 21:9 video, even if you stream onto your 16:9 TV you still get black bars...
In all honesty, I use my tab S1 most of the time (with latest stock marshmallow), and the tab S3 only when the battery of the S1 runs out.

A question to those who got a chance to compare S1 vs S4: does the S1 display look sharper? The S1 display uses an RGB supixel layout vs PenTile in the S4 display, so it should look sharper.. Also Netflix is capped at 720p on the S4 vs 1080p on the S1, unless you use Netfix v5.0 or older.
Edit: fortunately, Samsung still uses the "RGB stripe" subpixel arrangement in their tablet displays. My bad, should have searched the forum before posting.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/help/he-tab-s4-pentile-matrix-display-t3827112/page2

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[Q] Is P1000 still worth buying TODAY?

I'm looking for a Tab, but Transformer seems to big for me. P1000 is the perfect size, but it is pretty old device. Is it still worth buying today?
Thanks.
If you think 7" tablet is a perfect size for you then why not, the Galaxy tab is only 1 year old and it still stands against any other alternatives out in the market today.
I would hardly say just because the tablet is "pretty old" that it isn't a good purchase. It's well supported by developers and the fact that people are still purchasing it... Its a solid working and built piece of kit.
You won't be disappointed.
I would say that they are definitely still worth it. The price point alone is a great reason. You can get a Galaxy tablet for less than half the price of many of the newest tabs.
It's already been shown that these models are capable of running the new firmwares. There are ports of Honeycomb out there already, and though there are still some issues to be ironed out, they work pretty well. Since installing a 2.3.4 rom on my vzw tab, I've been very impressed with how responsive and cleanly it runs.
Having handled some of the newer and larger tablets, I've found that the smaller size is really more ideal to me personally. I can fit my Galaxy tablet in my pocket. My folks for example both have iPads, and they are just much larger and bulkier devices. You can't drop one in your pocket real quick while you are out on the run.
Anyway, hope that helps!
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I would say that they are definitely still worth it. The price point alone is a great reason. You can get a Galaxy tablet for less than half the price of many of the newest tabs.
It's already been shown that these models are capable of running the new firmwares. There are ports of Honeycomb out there already, and though there are still some issues to be ironed out, they work pretty well. Since installing a 2.3.4 rom on my vzw tab, I've been very impressed with how responsive and cleanly it runs.
Having handled some of the newer and larger tablets, I've found that the smaller size is really more ideal to me personally. I can fit my Galaxy tablet in my pocket. My folks for example both have iPads, and they are just much larger and bulkier devices. You can't drop one in your pocket real quick while you are out on the run.
Anyway, hope that helps!
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I live in eastern europe and here the tab's price is almost the same as Transformer's. And that one has Tegra 2 and a nice 10.1' IPS display. They are both here 540 USD / 380 EUR. I tried Iconia A500 Tab, but I was quite disappointed - it was very heavy, typing text while trying to hold with one hand was challenging. The OS and that big display sure looks great, but for now I can't see my self taking this out in the street while walking, or chatting (IM) while sitting in the bus on my way college. How much is the P1000 in the US? Or UK?
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I live in eastern europe and here the tab's price is almost the same as Transformer's. And that one has Tegra 2 and a nice 10.1' IPS display. They are both here 540 USD / 380 EUR. I tried Iconia A500 Tab, but I was quite disappointed - it was very heavy, typing text while trying to hold with one hand was challenging. The OS and that big display sure looks great, but for now I can't see my self taking this out in the street while walking, or chatting (IM) while sitting in the bus on my way college. How much is the P1000 in the US? Or UK?
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In the UK, the P1000 (if you can find any in stock) still goes for around £399 and the P1010 is currently in bestbuy/currys for £299.
But search on ebay or other sites, you can find one for a lot cheaper. I got mine brand new from ebay for £250 (P1000).
Of course, these will probably fall in price when newer alternatives comes out but for now, they are holding its value as they are still popular and people are buying them.
I just bought one today. So far I am happy with it.
I have seen the US models selling new for between $150-200 when you buy from a mobile provider. For example, I know Verizon was selling them earlier this year for $200 when you agreed to a two year service agreement. I've also seen the WiFi only tablets for $350. Personally, I was willing to sign a contract, because having the 3g data access was something I desired.
But, I would do as one of the other posters suggested, and check ebay. As I understand it, you can buy a US model and put a European firmware on it. I would double check that though, as I don't want to tell you something I am not entirely sure of.
Got mine a month ago in aussie land, on a 12 month contract. 0 dollars for the tab and $39 a month for the plan with 8g of data and I get 3 months of the plan for free. Was really happy with that price.
Got mine in Italy for 300 Eur. Best purchase of the year: perfect balance between pocketability and readability, and with Gingerbread it is lag free and quick.
Rumours are that Samsung is going to present a revamped 7" tablet w/ upgraded cpu and amoled screen. I won't upgrade unless it has usb host or otg, which is the feature I miss much on my Tab.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
Nothing wrong with the P1000. Good support is important. Even if it's a year old it still beats an ipad. Good resolution and speed, and very complete. Very sturdy, durable Gorilla glass.
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If 7" tablet is your preference, get a HTC Flyer or Huawei Ideos Slim?
Unless u want the voice call/sms capabilities
debernardis said:
Got mine in Italy for 300 Eur. Best purchase of the year: perfect balance between pocketability and readability, and with Gingerbread it is lag free and quick.
Rumours are that Samsung is going to present a revamped 7" tablet w/ upgraded cpu and amoled screen. I won't upgrade unless it has usb host or otg, which is the feature I miss much on my Tab.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
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Any Samsung official reading this would love to put usb otg and make you upgrade
While for me, I ll try not to upgrade, but the amoled screen might tempt me.
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I'm looking for a Tab, but Transformer seems to big for me. P1000 is the perfect size, but it is pretty old device. Is it still worth buying today?
Thanks.
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I bought mine last month, and I love it. My pocket is not that big to fit in the tab, so I bought a small bag to bring around. I was confused whether buying Galaxy S (for super amoled and small factor) or Galaxy Tab (for bigger screen to read ebooks). Well, its worth buying
I bought one a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy so far. Yes, it's a year old - but the screen is very good (much better than alternative 7" tablets'), it's relatively cheap & there's lots of development going on with it.
The next 7" from Samsung is set to have an AMOLED screen & will probably be dual-core, which will be awesome, but I wanted something now & wasn't prepared to 1) wait & 2) pay much more than I did...
Make sure you root & stick Overcome ROM on it! It becomes a different animal once you do!
Got an Asus Transformer for the home/travel, but day to day chucking in pocket (albeit large pockets), still love the Tab. Got it for 200bucks so can't complain.
If I had to pay full price? I think I'd skip, for that price a newer 7" tablet would still be preferred.
Main thing it comes down to though is where are you, and do you need voice? if so, Tab might still be perfect for you.
It's a good question to ask here, as the answer isn't obvious. Without a tablet, I would, if I had the cash, get the Tab again. It's portability still makes it a winner for me.
Waiting for the next model is ok, but... these things always seem to take 6months longer than initially planned it appears.
Thee galaxy pad still a good tab/phone. its fast, not to big and have a lot of apps/games that works so...
Galaxy tab worth to buy.why?
The best tablet for 7 inch tablet.
Equiped with microsd,simcard for mms,sms,3g and telephone
the best size to carry around even easily beat ipad
Development of Custom rom and stock rom are always up to date
unless samsung release new 7 inch tablet with dual core processor and amoled sceen
then it is not worthy anymore to purchase
When I got the P1000, my standard in speed and responsiveness on android began to change. I began to compare the Qualcomm chipset based androids vs. the Hummingbird of Samsung. The P1000 (and the original Galaxy S Plus which runs the same thing) is really good and even better can match the next gen Qualcomm. See how the original Galaxy S graphics even beats the Galaxy S Plus (newer release), is because of the same speedy setup done before.
The P1000 is a very good device. Really crazy why Samsung shortchanged many unknowing people as they downgraded the P1010 with an inferior chipset and graphics.
Is there already a dual core 7" as good as the P1000? The Dell Streak 7 besides abit more massive has a problem with batt life. Archos I didn't bother to consider. Is there anymore? The Galaxy Tab 8.9 is coming out better (dunno when), but it is not 7". Nothing compares that I know... for now.
I've only had mine for about a week, I bought it second hand for a great price and I love it so far. I use it more than my laptop and my Asus Transformer. I LOVE the size. The 10" tabs you pretty much need to use both hand to hold it all the time, the G.Tab easily in 1. Plus being able to type with both thumbs instead of finger pecking is a HUGE plus.
Yeah, the Galaxy Seven will probably be out in a couple months but if you need one now then it's a great little tab.
I was at the shop today again, played with XOOM and again with Galaxy Tab. Damn its size is just perfect and the screen so detailed and feels high quality. But then I tried to do what I do on My N900 (Maemo 5 OS), and WOW :O IT CAN NOT MULTITASK. I never noticed that! You can not have skype online and browse the web while listening to music. I asked the guy at the shop. He confirmed, just some can "run in the background" but there is no task switcher... Maybe you can make it multitask? On iOS i have backgrounder and Kirikae and it works like a charm, can you do the same on android?
Skype online while browsing the web and listening to music? won't the sound conflict?
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Tab S vs Tab 4 10.1 vs Tab Pro 12.2...which one?

Just saw four Sammy tablets at my local Costco:
Galaxy Tab 4 7": $160
Galaxy Tab 4 10.1: $300
Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2: $530
Galaxy Tab S 10.5: $480
I would like something bigger than 7". Can anyone give some pros and cons as to why I would choose a Tab S over Tab 4 10.1 or Tab Pro 12.2 (ignoring cost).
I have looked on some different techy sites for comparisons and am still none the wiser so figured the faithful at XDA would be able to give a real-world comparison/input as to why the different models would be chosen. The 12.2 seems huge - great for movies and other larger requirements, but I've heard the Tab S screen is exceptional.
Sigh...which one do I choose...?
Honest opinion #1
Any bigger than 8.4 you should just buy a laptop.
Snapdragon rules so that rules out the Tab S .
Go with the Tab Pro series
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Honest Opinion #2
I personally have bought the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and previously had the Note 8. Now I cannot give you real life experience because mine is still in the mail but the reason why I chose it was to replace my current windows 8. I have a Samsung Smart 500t PC and it recently has crapped out so I decided to get a replacement. I ultimately chose the 10.5 for multiple reasons:
1. This is going to be my "main" mobile device, I am going to use it for work, meetings, etc. I wanted something more portable than a laptop but bigger than an 8.
2. From my research, the Tab 4 series doesn't have much support. In fact, looking for reviews from the "big" tech companies was difficult to find. I wouldn't want to get a device knowing that there isn't much support right off the bat.
3. Galaxy Tab S is the newest of the Samsung Tabs and thus has the highest chance of getting an Android L upgrade (if Samsung decided to do)
4. Of course the SCREEN is beautiful from what I have seen.
It was a bit pricey but you can find some good deals off of ebay. I got mine for about $439 new free shipping insured.
I'll add that I do own the Tab S 8.4 (SM-T700) and it is nice,it's just the future for kernels are limited.some who notice when I post I always mention that this Tab S is slick on AOSP
Got for Galaxy Tab S 10.5, nice screen.. perfect size for magazine reading as you dont need to keep zooming in and out.
Movies looks great. Very light to hold. Great cover
Cons: Exynos and hard to hold in protrait due to small bezel.
I went to a store and compared them all before I bought the tab s. The Note Pro 12.5 is great, but it's to heavy for me.
I was looking for a tablet for watching movies and reading comics on while chilling in bed
Pros
Tab S screen IS exceptional.
It's ultra thin and light.
Looks very stylish
Fast and smooth
Cons
The hardware buttons when in portrait mode due to the ultra thin bezel. (Yes it can be solved by rooting etc.) but there's really no need to have them on a tablet. As I read a lot on my tablets in portrait mode the back button really frustrates me and I keep closing my magazines and comics by mistake. Its no deal breaker however.
I cant really come up with any cons except that tbh
i love the screen on the tab s, i find it very easy on the eyes for reading and movies.
That and the weight is about all i love though. the rest is just ok.
What are you going to use it for? The Tab 4's have 1,280x800 displays which by today's standards are pretty poor and will be painful for reading text. The Tab 4 7 has 8GB of storage and the 10 has 16GB. With the way 4.4 manages external storage and some media apps only supporting internal storage 8GB is woefully inadequate and 16GB borderline. They both have just adequate CPU/GPUs and you'll feel the lack of power in multitasking and anything graphic intensive. You get what you pay for.
The 12" tablets are huge. I don't know how someone could seriously compare a 7" tablet and a 12" tablet. I have a 5.7" N3 so 10" is the sweet spot for me between screen real estate and portability. I'm a productivity user though so anything less than 10" is too small to get any serious creation or office work done. From a portability perspective the difference between 7-8.4" isn't a big deal - you're not going to stick any of them in your back pocket. 7" tablets, in my opinion, are just too small to really enjoy media and browse the web without constantly zooming pages to read them. Samsung's high-end tablets have a lot of s/w features (EG: Multiview, Scrap Book, eMeeting, SideSync, Hancom Office) that, even if available on the 4's, wouldn't perform well because of lack of SoC power and RAM.
So first, think about what's important feature and performance wise and then think about size. And really consider the display. The Pro's and S' have beautiful 2,560x1,600 displays with high PPI that really are a joy to view. Tab 4's not so much.
Here's a size comparison...
I wanted to add to this as I've owned a few tablets lately, right now I have the tab s 10.5. I had a tab pro 4 10.1, pass. You won't be happy. It's performance is OK but the screen isn't that great. Plus the lack of vibrate and light sensors just made it feel cheap, I sold mine for 60 bucks, no regrets. I had an iPad air for a bit but I took it back as I tend to leave a lot of things running and, I just didn't like it overall. Now, the tab s. Had it about a week and I've disabled a lot of things and I have apex installed. However I think it's the best tablet I've owned. It's perfectly fast, I've not had a single hiccup doing anything. I love the processor, personally. The screen is amazing although I dialed mine back to the basic setting I find it more accurate that way. Seriously, this was 500 bucks. I a most wish I could not like it so I could return it but I just can't find any faults. I've tried but this is one brilliant machine. I could live without the bloat but like I said I disabled most of it anyway and apex took care of magazine ux. Sure the benchmarks will show snapdragon doing better and even the iPad air but consider this:I found a review that showed the Puffin browser blew every browser away I'm benchmark tests. It wasn't even close so I took UC off and paid for puffin. It's performance was so abysmal I got a refund and put uc back on. I am very happy with the tab s. The titanium bronze just looks superb and it's overall performance is stunning. I didn't want to believe I could like something better than an iPad but Samsung hit it out of the park. If you have the money buy the tab s 10.5 and thank me later. Don't listen to anyone who doesn't have one.
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Any bigger than 8.4 you should just buy a laptop....
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Let me guess. You are under 50, right? Some of us really need that bigger screen. Of course there are plenty of other reasons for preferring a larger screen. All boils down to personal needs and preferences so blanket statements are always wrong for a certain percentage of users.
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Let me guess. You are under 50, right? Some of us really need that bigger screen. Of course there are plenty of other reasons for preferring a larger screen. All boils down to personal needs and preferences so blanket statements are always wrong for a certain percentage of users.
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Good guess but wow I didn't think I would hit a nerve. I am sorry I stated an "opinion" .I understand now why someone would want a bigger tablet
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I had a tab pro 4 10.1, pass. You won't be happy. It's performance is OK but the screen isn't that great. Plus the lack of vibrate and light sensors just made it feel cheap, I sold mine for 60 bucks, no regrets. I had an iPad air for a bit but I took it back as I tend to leave a lot of things running and, I just didn't like it overall.
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All Samsung's high-end Wi-Fi tablets use the same Exynos 5420 CPU and Mail 628 GPU. The Pro 10.1 has 2GB of RAM vs. 3GB on the Tab S but I've never seen any multitasking complaints on the Pro forum. I've used all Samsung's high-end tablets on 4.4 from the N10.1-14 on. Those with M-UX are laggier than the N10.1-14 without it. The Pro's seem a bit more fluid than the S' but its most likely due to the S' using V1.0 video drivers where the Note/Pro's have been updated about four times. There's a ton of posts in various threads here where former Note/Pro users with Tab S' have commented on a perceived increase in lag in moving to the S. So your experience is definitely different. In using all the tablets none struck me as so different performance wise that I'd be swayed in to buying one over the other solely because of it. That includes S-800 vs. Exynos 5420 (caveat: I'm not a gamer).
Samsung's 2,560x1,600 LCD panels are great and have been rated so in objective testing. They draw less power overall than the AMOLED panels on the S' because their RGBW PenTile and do exceptionally better on whites which kill AMOLED battery life. Most productivity and creation apps utilize light backgrounds so the Pro's would be a better choice battery life wise for productivity and web users and heavy readers. There's no doubt the S' display blacks better and offer better contrast but it doesn't make Samsung's high-end LCDs cow dung either. I'm a heavy productivity user and the S' display would absolutely kill me.
Are you sure you had a Pro 10.1? This is from the T-520 manual...
Moral of the story is people should buy what makes them happy, draw their own conclusions based on hands-on time, and realize opinions (including mine ) are just that.
It was the tab 4 10.1 my apologies. When I bought this tab s btw I was lookng for the pro in 10.1 for $399. My thoughts were if they didn't have any I'd look for a laptop about in that range or just gwt another ipad air. But as she was unlocking the case I spotted "S". I had my credit card out before she pulled the box out. But the price being $499 almost stopped me which is why I compared it to the Air becau of price only. But I bought the S and like I said I keep the display on basic and disabled everything I could without root. I use Apex pro and I should also mention I use no widgets and a plain background. I do leave a lot of stuff running but still for me performace has been flawless. I can even attest to the WiFi being more powerful than the air as I'm on the road a lot and pick up wifi whereever I can and this is just been the best overall tablet experience I've had.
Yes I would agree the Amoled use more power overall but I keep everything I can themed dark. Also I had a nexus 10 and agree the LCD screens are brilliant. In many ways better
Amoled probably comes down to preference. Or for me I was on the road stopped at the first walmart I could find and they had one. I'm glad. I just wanted to heartily endorse the tab s (10.5). Maybe the only thing I could say is that I liked the feel of Apple's aluminum casing but the titanium bronze has a beauty all its own.
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No worries; your experience being with a Tab 4 vs. a Pro explains a lot. With Samsung carpet bombing the tablet market it's very confusing to the consumer what they're actually buying. I think that's intentional to a degree.
This for $319 looks like a great deal...
...when compared to this for $499
And to the masses, maybe it is. Their standards are a lot lower than an XDA audience's.
Thanks very much for all the (informative and helpful) replies.
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With Samsung carpet bombing the tablet market it's very confusing to the consumer what they're actually buying. I think that's intentional to a degree.
Their standards are a lot lower than an XDA audience's.
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And this is why I came to XDA to ask opinions and suggestions -- I get real world helpful information rather than columns of comparisons on other sites which don't mean much. I'm just your average tablet user...but f I am going to save and buy one...I want to get the best bang-for-the-buck as I won't be buying a tablet every year!
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Thanks very much for all the (informative and helpful) replies.
And this is why I came to XDA to ask opinions and suggestions -- I get real world helpful information rather than columns of comparisons on other sites which don't mean much. I'm just your average tablet user...but f I am going to save and buy one...I want to get the best bang-for-the-buck as I won't be buying a tablet every year!
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I think the best all around is the pro 10.1 inch. Don't get the tab 4 it's $80 more for the pro and you get so much more, the display alone is worth the extra $. Like I said I love the tab S but it just so happened it's what they had. I would say it's well worth the asking price. Stunning 10.5 inch display, performance is stellar, much better than I expected. Had it about a week and I can't bring myself to return it. I returned the nexus 10, sold the tab 4 and returned the iPad air. I look for reasons it seems but I just haven't found a thing to dislike. I even tried since yesterday it just fits me too well.
I just realized the tab pro 10.1 isn't on the list. Get the tab S. Obviously I am biased, but happily.
i own the Tab Pro 10.1 which has better specs than the Tab 4 and also have the Tab S 10.5 and the difference from the extra 1GB Ram and the much updated Touchwiz version of the Tab S makes me not like the Pro 10.1 that much anymore. also the Tab S has much better accessory options in the case keyboard area.
if you are buying something to use for more than 1+ years than spend the money and get the S
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i am not using a 3rd party keyboard (video 1)
or
a 3rd party launcher (video 2)
and so i am not having these issues with my Stock TW Tab S 10.5
not saying its your 3rd party apps but saying that is not my experience with my Tab S 10.5
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i am not using a 3rd party keyboard (video 1)
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a 3rd party launcher (video 2)
and so i am not having these issues with my Stock TW Tab S 10.5
not saying its your 3rd party apps but saying that is not my experience with my Tab S 10.5
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At this price point, and this late in the game in android, this is a joke!
A Joke.

Has Samsung finally thrown in the towel?

Is it fair to say that Samsung has stopped competing when it comes to high-end tablets? It very much looks to me that, with the utterly underwhelming release of the Tab S2, it has all but admitted defeat in its war against Apple. What could be the motivation for this major disappointment? Could it be that behind this is the failed Qualcomm 810? Could that be it? Were Samsung relying on Qualcomm's SoCs, and when Qualcomm failed to deliver, they saw themselves forced to go with their older Exynos silicon?
Opinions and speculations welcome.
In my opinion the Tab S2 is great... what made me ditch my iPad was because the S2 has a microsdxc-slot, 4:3-aspect ratio, amoled-screen and it's fast!! If any of these criteria hadn't been fulfilled I would still be using my iPad. LED-flash would have been nice though, but in my case it wasn't a deal breaker.
The only advantage the iPad still has (in my book) is lower audio latency for musicians apps.
Brgds...
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In my opinion the Tab S2 is great... what made me ditch my iPad was because the S2 has a microsdxc-slot, 4:3-aspect ratio, amoled-screen and it's fast!! If any of these criteria hadn't been fulfilled I would still be using my iPad. LED-flash would have been nice though, but in my case it wasn't a deal breaker.
The only advantage the iPad still has (in my book) is lower audio latency for musicians apps.
Brgds...
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This !!
Excellent tablet for my needs and considering there are no other high end Android tablets to chose from you can either got with an iPad or get the S2 at the moment.
The nexus 9 which was suppose to be a high end machine was a serious flop, mostly by hardware.
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I, for one, am yearning for a 4x3 Android tablet in the same vein as Microsoft's Surface4 (stylus etc.), though hopefully much less expensive.
I also went from iPad to Tab S2. I hovered long between air 2 and Tab s2 but the android platform, amoled screen and microsdxc slot won against slightly better battery, iOS smoothness and faster processor.
Battery life has actually been better than expected due amoled blacks not eating charge and my use consisting plenty of video and reading in night mode. The weight and thinness are also a plus even though I didn't put much thought in them when considering which one to buy. I don't play games apart from Hearthstone which works perfectly so I don't feel that the tablet is lacking in speed at least in my usecase.
I even considered Touchwiz a minus for the tablet but this newest iteration is pretty snappy and not too intrusive. So all in all I'm positively suprised and happy that I took the risk from "safe" iPad air 2 and went with Tab S2.
Still not perfect but I wouldn't call it nowhere near a failure.
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The only failure is everyone else gave up on making android tablets.... The s2 is the best one available so get off the rock.
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I really like my S2. I have the 8" SM-T710 wi-fi model. The amoled screen is very good quality for oudoor use. I purcased a Survivor by Griffin case for my S2. I inadvertantly tested it by dropping it from about 5 ft to a concrete floor. It survived eit no damage.
My S2 is my daily driver that has replaced my aging Acer laptop.
I hate the S2 speaker arrangement. When you watch a movie, all the sound is overloaded on the right side. That is awsome!
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I wanted a phone-tablet in one... apple surely never delivered... but Samsung did... the fast and stable OS is a big bonus.
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I think it's a bit 'meh' too.
It's great having a 4:3 tablet, but the speakers are crap and there's no IR blaster (we use our phones a lot at home for controlling the TV).
I was expecting to it handle Samsung Pro Audio better for using it for creating music (it stutters every now and then as the processor isn't up to the job). At least we do now have a low-latency audio production method on Android, though.
I can just about get the fact it's battery is small, as the device is very thin and light - which I like when using it as for reading. Which I do a lot.
I still like it, but am fortunate enough to know I can afford to ditch it and get another device when a better device comes out.
I don't think Samsung has really used the highest possible SOCs on their tablets before, maybe I'm wrong.
I was quite pumped about the Tab S2 and ended up disappointed by it to the point where my mind was made not to buy it in the end. The bottom speakers and the lack of features Samsung tablets used to have (IR, vibration motor) are far from good things, but the deal breaker for me is ironically the screen. I love Amoled but I felt that 264 dpi on that screen is not good enough to justify the expense when text on my Tab Pro looks far better to me... and that should never be the case for an expensive tablet released almost two years later.
Anyway... on my wishlist for future devices there's now a Samsung clone of Google's Pixel C, 2560×1800 10.2″ with Amoled screen. A man can dream
I'm a bit hacked off my Note 4 phone beats the S2 in Antutu. Which is also borne out in day-to-day 'feel' as well.
At 4:3 it does make a good e-reader and web device, but it is an expensive option for that.

Is tab s2 8.0 worth the buy if I already have a note 5?

I'm thinking about the s2 8.0 since it's on sale at Best Buy and a couple other places but I currently have a Note 5 and is it really worth spending the money on a tablet with only an 8 inch screen when I got the Note which has a fairly large screen already.
Depends on your budget, but a 5.7" widescreen display is an entirely different animal from an 8.0" 4:3 aspect ratio... much more text fits on a 4:3 8.0" display the page for web browsing, flipboard, reading textbooks, etc.
If youve never had a tablet, showroom it at best buy or something, you'll see.
While in some ways I miss the phone shape of my nexus 7, easier for typing, but the ipad-mini shaped tab S2 8.0 is very cool, i dont regret the $350 I spent on it.
I bought a 6S Plus phablet for my wife and its a cool display size but just not the same as an ipad mini or Tab S2 8.0. Different form factor entirely, best suited to different tasks.
joelbnyc said:
Depends on your budget, but a 5.7" widescreen display is an entirely different animal from an 8.0" 4:3 aspect ratio... much more text fits on a 4:3 8.0" display the page for web browsing, flipboard, reading textbooks, etc.
If youve never had a tablet, showroom it at best buy or something, you'll see.
While in some ways I miss the phone shape of my nexus 7, easier for typing, but the ipad-mini shaped tab S2 8.0 is very cool, i dont regret the $350 I spent on it.
I bought a 6S Plus phablet for my wife and its a cool display size but just not the same as an ipad mini or Tab S2 8.0. Different form factor entirely, best suited to different tasks.
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If I'm going to be using it for reading articles and books for school wouldn't a 9.7 inch one be better than an 8?
I personally think the 9.7 inch one is too big for extended usage (reading for example). I use my 8 inch one for reading text books in bed and it's awesome. Can't imagine doing the same with the bigger one but that's just me.
I own a 5.5 inch phone and when my previous tablet broke (iPad mini) I had to use my phone a lot m9re. Hated the whole experience compared to using a tablet.
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If I'm going to be using it for reading articles and books for school wouldn't a 9.7 inch one be better than an 8?
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For me 9.7 is perfect for reading (main use) specially PDF books and comics. Of course my eyes are not what they used to be. . I like the bigger screen format when administering remotely my servers through RDS. Paired with the keyboard case and a Bluetooth mouse is perfect for me. I just give to my wife my new, now old for me, Asus Zenpad 8 inch 64gb tablet, and I can feel the difference between an 8 inch screen vs a 9.7 inch.
my 2 cents... i have a note5 and had the same reservations as the OP. i'm fortunate that budget was not a concern so, i purchased an unlocked, Tab S2 8.0 LTE/Wifi version (international) and i'm glad i did. 3 main reasons i'm pleased with the device: (a) perfect size my work activities (mgmt consultant where i read/reply to a butt-load of emails every day), (b) great for reading personal and work stuff during my weekly travels to client sites and (c) the international version has a "real" phone. full LTE capabilities using AT&T in the US. i've been doing well my Note5 and will continue to rely on it for work as well. Nexus 7 was my first tablet and this is my second and a keeper.
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If I'm going to be using it for reading articles and books for school wouldn't a 9.7 inch one be better than an 8?
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8" is okay for me for reading textbook PDF's, and the other activities I use it for like browsing flipboard.
Sure, 9.7" you would have slightly bigger text, but it's slightly bulkier.
I don't think you can go wrong with either though, I'm not aware of any better android tablets currently.
I bought the 8 today absolutely love it beautiful screen nice size text love it
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What would you buy to replace your 8.4 Tab S ?

Love my Tab S but thinking on upgrading in the near future. What do you guys think is a honorable replacement?
Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
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Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Huawei is still making nice high end tablet with 8 inch screen (Mediapad M6), but sadly because of trade war, we're not going to see it on our shores.
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Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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I replaced my T-800 with the Tab S4 when Best Buy was blowing them out at $260 or less this past Christmas.
While my Tab S was very sexy and I had the Logitech Type S keyboard I loved it very much it was a no brainer upgrading at that point.
Here is my thread explaining the $260 sale:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13607677-s...-s4-64gb-tablet-wi-fi-black-260-in-store-ymmv
I would expect the S6 is about to go on deep discount soon so I would be on the look out if you're in the market for a new Samsung Tab.
I just sold off my T-800 in perfect shape, I do plan to hold onto my T-700 as Samsung just does not make sexiness like that any longer.
Hi guys I recently tried to understand whether it was possible to replace my Tab S 8.4 LTE and... I'm astonished. Android tablets are dead. I paid 350€ for this tablet at launch so taking into account 6 years of technological development I was expecting to find at the same price the following specs: 64-128gb of storage, 8gb of ram, same screen since oled technology had some troubles advancing, modern high end processor, a camera with not necessarily more pixels but with less noise and more details, no IR because we don't use TVs anymore.
What I found instead was: crappy low end overpriced tablets, with barely any ram, and no advancements whatsoever in productivity applications. The obvious choice would be to go for an x86 Windows tablet... But I don't dare to run Windows with less than 16gb of ram (any browser uses 5-6gb of ram to begin with with my usage scenario) and onestly those tablets have poor battery life and there are no small tablets to begin with. This leaves only the ipad mini... Which I had terrible experience with (ipad mini 2 was dropped from support and update very quickly and became slow as hell with the last updates it received).
Do you guys have any suggestion? Huaway is out of the question... I don't want to be caught in a stupid useless war.
There is no suitable replacement. I use mine as a phone and there is just nothing with as large a display that has an earpiece that you can hold up to your face and make calls with. I now own 3, 2 working, so I have spare parts as bits break.
Actually that is a usage scenario that happened a couple of times. My phone was temporarily down (anything from a bricked rom to a simply drained battery) and I always simply took the sim out of it, stuck into the tablet and continued my day with no problems whatsoever. Before buying this tablet I was super into the Asus transformer line. A phone that you insert in a screen that becomes a tablet with additional battery life, then you attach the keyboard and bump in terms of productivity. They where unreasonably costly to begin with had bad software support, and super died probably because the company got more money selling separate devices. I tried to create my own version of it with a raspberry pi but it was obviously very clunky.
hi you all!
i have been researching about this subejct and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but havent found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellhphones...
seems like the 8 inchers are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
iPostNak3d said:
hi you all!
i have been researching about this subject and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but haven't found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellphones...
seems like the 8 inches are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Are you using a custom rom?
Tab S 10.1
Princeland said:
Are you using a custom rom?
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Hi yes I'm using the latest Lineage OS Deathly (android 7.1). The rom is probably close to its EOL since there is much less activity and updates. ROM. I've undervolted the tab and put an aluminium bar on the SOC to stop it from overheating... I would not describe the experience as high end but it's way better than before. The same developer made roms also for the WIFi only model and for the 2 bigger models.

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