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is it possible to get kitkat with dalvik rom?

If it's possible to get kitkat on our device with dalvik run time, please someone port it.
I hate lollipop. why? almost all the apps on the play store aren't optimized for ART/lollipop.
It's just pain to see my new nexus 6 stutters on apps that can run on my old 5S smoothly

No it is not possible. Someone can't just port Kit Kat because there are a lack of drivers and binaries for it.
Apps will just have to get to the times and update to make it more optimized for Lollipop, or get "better" or more frequently updated apps to follow with the times.

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No it is not possible. Someone can't just port Kit Kat because there are a lack of drivers and binaries for it.
Apps will just have to get to the times and update to make it more optimized for Lollipop, or get "better" or more frequently updated apps to follow with the times.
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That is actually quite a silly statement.
It actually would NOT be all that much work to build 4.4 for this hardware.
For one, all of the blobs needed can be pulled from Droid_turbo / Moto_maxx. They are basically the same hardware, and ship with 4.4.
Second, qualcomm supports the apq8084 platform on 4.4 directly. I have a liquid 8084 tablet with 4.4 on my desk right next to me right now.
Having said that... I'm not going to build 4.4, because it is pointless.
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dustin4vn said:
I hate lollipop. why? almost all the apps on the play store aren't optimized for ART/lollipop.
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What exactly do you mean by "aren't optimized"??? As a developer, I have to say that this statement is completely meaningless. There is nothing special that need be done from a software developer point of view to take account for ART, as long as you aren't doing weird and unsupported hacks (which very very very few people actually do).
It's just pain to see my new nexus 6 stutters on apps that can run on my old 5S smoothly
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What do you mean by "stutters"? Is there heavy I/O happening when it is "stuttering"? Do you realize the serious impact that forced encryption has on the device's I/O and CPU performance? Do you realize that the display on N6 has nearly TWICE as many pixels as your "old" S5? That means that it is GOING to take a lot more to keep things fluid on N6 than S5. Something that will be helped when software starts to take advantage of the newer OpenGL available on 5.0. NONE of this will be improved by downgrading to 4.4. In fact, because 4.4 will NOT be taking advantage of the newer OpenGL, doing this downgrade will make certain, even after software starts to make use of it, that you WON'T be able to benefit from it.

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That is actually quite a silly statement.
It actually would NOT be all that much work to build 4.4 for this hardware.
For one, all of the blobs needed can be pulled from Droid_turbo / Moto_maxx. They are basically the same hardware, and ship with 4.4.
Second, qualcomm supports the apq8084 platform on 4.4 directly. I have a liquid 8084 tablet with 4.4 on my desk right next to me right now
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If it's not that much work then why you don't do it and prove me wrong? You'd need proprietary vendors, drivers for 4.4 and not to mention you'd need a backward port of dalvik.
Just because they share similar hardware doesn't mean you can just pull blobs from another phone with similar hardware specifications from the same manufacturer then hope that it works because development doesn't work that way
Even if it was possible no one would do it because its a step backwards and it would be a dirty hack.

i would have chimed in a while ago, but for certain reasons i didnt. normally, id say that it wont happen, since there arent any binaries for kitkat and the nexus 6. but guess what, there are! they arent anywhere where the public has access to them, but they do exist. as google had kitkat on the n6 before lollipop. and a very few people have even gotten their n6 with kitkat(when they just selling the n6). so, in the future, we might be able to see a kitkat build on our n6

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If it's not that much work then why you don't do it and prove me wrong? You'd need proprietary vendors, drivers for 4.4 and not to mention you'd need a backward port of dalvik.
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I'm not going to, because it is a waste of time and I have no interest in having a **** measuring contest with some random person on the internet.
Just because they share similar hardware doesn't mean you can just pull blobs from another phone with similar hardware specifications from the same manufacturer then hope that it works because development doesn't work that way
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That's hilarious. Especially since hardware wise, the only real difference between those phones I mentioned and Nexus 6 is the screen size. In fact, we know for a fact that those two devices very nearly WERE stamped "shamu" and sent out AS Nexus 6. Something happened between Google and Verizon that decided what size went under whose label. Also, you should see all the Sony blobs I used on my Samsung phone... also a bunch from LG.
But just to make things even more interesting, on what grounds do you claim that Android 4.4 won't run on blobs from 5.0? That same Samsung phone I referred to above running on Sony and LG blobs... is running 5.0 on such mishmash of blobs pulled out from 4.[0-4]. And perfectly happily at that. Blobs DO NOT HAVE an intrinsic "works with Android version X and nothing else" stamped on them.
Even if it was possible no one would do it because its a step backwards and it would be a dirty hack.
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THAT is essentially what I am saying. Not the "even if" (because it *IS* possible), or the dirty hack part, because though it may make you FEEL dirty to downgrade, it wouldn't actually be a hack. I'm saying that nobody WILL do it, because it is pointless and backwards.

dustin4vn said:
If it's possible to get kitkat on our device with dalvik run time, please someone port it.
I hate lollipop. why? almost all the apps on the play store aren't optimized for ART/lollipop.
It's just pain to see my new nexus 6 stutters on apps that can run on my old 5S smoothly
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This phone would have been awesome on Kitkat. I also do not like Lollipop. It burns the eyes and there are too many bugs. I don't think anyone is going to go to the trouble though.

Evo_Shift said:
This phone would have been awesome on Kitkat. I also do not like Lollipop. It burns the eyes and there are too many bugs. I don't think anyone is going to go to the trouble though.
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As far as bugs go, its no different than any previous version. They patched a bunch of bugs that were there before, and added a few new ones. I wonder though, what bugs you think you've spotted? List them, and tell me why you believe that they are bugs...

Just port android 1.5 cupcake and call it a day lol

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Just port android 1.5 cupcake and call it a day lol
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haha, lol. Now that... might actually not be possible.

doitright said:
haha, lol. Now that... might actually not be possible.
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Time to do a change petition from google to make official cupcake ROM lol

zephiK said:
If it's not that much work then why you don't do it and prove me wrong? You'd need proprietary vendors, drivers for 4.4 and not to mention you'd need a backward port of dalvik.
Just because they share similar hardware doesn't mean you can just pull blobs from another phone with similar hardware specifications from the same manufacturer then hope that it works because development doesn't work that way
Even if it was possible no one would do it because its a step backwards and it would be a dirty hack.
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I am gonna go ahead and just attach it to your post. There is a port being worked on as I post this, yes there are people who want kit kat on the phone and there are other reasons than running cm, aosp or stock. Enough said and more will be revealed in the nexus 6 forums hopefully within the next week we will see how bad it really gets

fun..
to bad kitkat will not work on the n6 without drivers for kitkat. unless its a lollipop rom thats just themed like kitkat.

simms22 said:
fun..
to bad kitkat will not work on the n6 without drivers for kitkat. unless its a lollipop rom thats just themed like kitkat.
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You may be right and I might be wasting time. Something to do though

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You may be right and I might be wasting time. Something to do though
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i actually think you should keep trying, seriously. maybe it is possible to modify the lollipop drivers for kitkat, or modify the n5 drivers for kitkat for the n6. anyways, it woukd be neat to try kitkat on the n6

I thought the Nexus theory was to have the latest and greatest and never look back. Time would be better utilized squashing bugs in M.

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I thought the Nexus theory was to have the latest and greatest and never look back. Time would be better utilized squashing bugs in M.
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it is.. but we also cant forget about nostalgia D
my n5 died this week, after flashing m, seriously. andvi found my old sgs4 that hasnt been powered on in nearly 2 years, its running android 4.3

simms22 said:
it is.. but we also cant forget about nostalgia D
my n5 died this week, after flashing m, seriously. andvi found my old sgs4 that hasnt been powered on in nearly 2 years, its running android 4.3
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My son got robbed of his S6 by knifepoint. Ran my S3 4.3 for a couple days. Verizon Samsung on ATT not a beautiful experience. Lol Ran an old HTC Inspire on 2.3 Ginger for a week or so. Sister gave him Note 3 so he back to Lolli now.

prdog1 said:
My son got robbed of his S6 by knifepoint. Ran my S3 4.3 for a couple days. Verizon Samsung on ATT not a beautiful experience. Lol Ran an old HTC Inspire on 2.3 Ginger for a week or so. Sister gave him Note 3 so he back to Lolli now.
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i actually rooted it and flashed safeline recovery, first time ever! lol. i used kingsroot, a one click app to root. its a verizon phone, so i cant ever use it on a provider. but makes good calls over hangouts

simms22 said:
i actually rooted it and flashed safeline recovery, first time ever! lol. its a verizon phone, so i cant ever use it on a provider. but makes good calls over hangouts
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Why can't use it on provider. He has used Verizon Rezound on TMO and S3 on ATT. Not perfect but they work. He bad about breaking **** and never buys insurance.

CyanogenMod 12?

I know this is early. Lol I know. I was just curious of anyone's heard anything about it yet. I'm going to upgrade to the GS6 but only when CM gets released. I refuse to use TW. And now that Google has abandoned the GPe program this makes it even harder to upgrade.
So.. any news?

If you bought the S6 expecting a ton of development you'll be very disappointed. ..

mikeyinid said:
If you bought the S6 expecting a ton of development you'll be very disappointed. ..
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That's quite a daft thing to say considering the Galaxy S line is right behind the Nexus when it comes to development popularity..

jeffreylin_ said:
I don't think there's much support for the exynos processor yet. You could always try building it yourself and reporting back though .
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Haha no lol I'm just really bored with my S4 and want to upgrade but realized I'd be sacrificing a lot of functionality if I did. Since you good people have adopted the GS6 early I thought you'd be up to snuff on any development news for it. No worries though. I got some pondering to do.

By the time your done pondering on S6 / cm, will be looking at the next great thing SG9 .
Lol.
Pp.

Sheeeeeet ain't nuttin happenin'

Why would you want to buy a galaxy s5/6 and put cyanogenmod on it? Are you not buying it for the camera/thumb print scanner or samsung pay which will suck or not work at all on cm? If you want cm so bad other flagship phones cover that nich much better. You buy a expensive phone and make all the features that make it expensive useless, makes no sense to me.

Nope I'm not buying it for the thumb scanner, or Samsung pay. Everything I need, CM gives me. Have been using it since CM7 and has given me everything I want.
Stock Android>
In my opinion at least. Battery life is much better, OS is more responsive. And as far as I have seen for myself there is no difference between picture quality between TW and stock Android.

What's up with development for this phone?

Now, don't get the wrong idea. I'm not asking or demanding for ROMs or what have you. More like where are the developers. Are people not digging this phone and refusing to move over to it? Or is this thing off to a really slow start?
Again, I'm not asking for ETA, ROMs, mods, anything of that sort. Just wondering what the state of the g920t is in the developer realm.
If there is anything I would LOVE an ETA for or any information on for that matter is Cyanogenmod 12 lol I'm a CM head. Ran it exclusively on my S4 so I feel very out of place being stuck on Touchwiz. Although I must admit it's grown on me and is worlds better than past versions.

H3adru5H said:
Now, don't get the wrong idea. I'm not asking or demanding for ROMs or what have you. More like where are the developers. Are people not digging this phone and refusing to move over to it? Or is this thing off to a really slow start?
Again, I'm not asking for ETA, ROMs, mods, anything of that sort. Just wondering what the state of the g920t is in the developer realm.
If there is anything I would LOVE an ETA for or any information on for that matter is Cyanogenmod 12 lol I'm a CM head. Ran it exclusively on my S4 so I feel very out of place being stuck on Touchwiz. Although I must admit it's grown on me and is worlds better than past versions.
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The development on the aosp side of things has been really quiet, probably because they don't want to get peoples' hopes up. If you bought this device expecting to get cm12, it might not be a realistic expectation

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The development on the aosp side of things has been really quiet, probably because they don't want to get peoples' hopes up. If you bought this device expecting to get cm12, it might not be a realistic expectation
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Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.

H3adru5H said:
Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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It's because exynos isn't open source, which gives the developers nothing to go on so they have to reverse engineer everything. It's not about hate, it's about documentation

waiting on root for 5.1.1 tw first

H3adru5H said:
Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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If you were surprised about the lack of Exynos dev support, then you obviously did not do your homework before buying. Yes, there have been prior Exynos devices that (eventually) got CM, but it took many months of hard work and reverse engineering. You should never EVER buy a Samsung device with the expectation of having CM on it later (especially if it has Exynos). Die hard CM fans should stick with Nexus because those devices will always be the first to get CM. If you can't stand Touchwiz or any of the TW-based custom roms that are available, then you might as well sell your S6 now while you can get the most money for it.

The new Nexus coming out in November looks promising. Suppose to come in 2 sizes by 2 different makesr, one size I'm interested in is the smaller 5.4" model. I'll keep this S6 till then and Jump when the Nexus 5 2015 is available.
roger1955

Being a CM fan too, i think this device has a lot of potential with touchwiz based rom. Many contributors are working hard to bring fixes where samsung failed to deliver!

roger1955 said:
The new Nexus coming out in November looks promising. Suppose to come in 2 sizes by 2 different makesr, one size I'm interested in is the smaller 5.4" model. I'll keep this S6 till then and Jump when the Nexus 5 2015 is available.
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Same here. I was planning to get the OnePlus Two, but not if it has SD810. I'll wait for a small Nexus.

sublimaze said:
If you were surprised about the lack of Exynos dev support, then you obviously did not do your homework before buying. Yes, there have been prior Exynos devices that (eventually) got CM, but it took many months of hard work and reverse engineering. You should never EVER buy a Samsung device with the expectation of having CM on it later (especially if it has Exynos). Die hard CM fans should stick with Nexus because those devices will always be the first to get CM. If you can't stand Touchwiz or any of the TW-based custom roms that are available, then you might as well sell your S6 now while you can get the most money for it.
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Yes I made this clear above. I've never owned an Exynos device, so I made the leap assuming it would have CM support just like every other Galaxy S I've owned. Also I am a die hard AOSP fan but I've always preferred Galaxy S features like SAMOLED and external SD so I've always gotten a GS and called it a day. As I said earlier, the Nexus 6 is just too large so that's out of the question.

H3adru5H said:
Yes I made this clear above. I've never owned an Exynos device, so I made the leap assuming it would have CM support just like every other Galaxy S I've owned. Also I am a die hard AOSP fan but I've always preferred Galaxy S features like SAMOLED and external SD so I've always gotten a GS and called it a day. As I said earlier, the Nexus 6 is just too large so that's out of the question.
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Get the g4.
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Get the g4.
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NO. I despise LG. I used to own a G2x. Never trusted LG after that mess.

H3adru5H said:
NO. I despise LG. I used to own a G2x. Never trusted LG after that mess.
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I can understand your hesitation after the G2x but LG has come a long way. They still have a horrid UI but that's why we have custom ROMs. They still have snapdragon, as well. Not to mention some amazing hardware. Right up there with any other manufacturer (yes even considering their plastic back version...who doesn't use a case anyway) That all being said...I'm still getting the next Nexus lol LG and Sammy have some incredible features that aren't available in CM but stock Android is just too smooth

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Get the g4.
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Locked bootloader.

ambervals6 said:
Get the g4.
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Locked bootloader.
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Also unless something changed there isn't a "safe" way to root the g4.

ThePagel said:
Also unless something changed there isn't a "safe" way to root the g4.
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The only change is LG released unlock bootloader tool for int'l non-carrier versions only.
So given that, i think we are on the best option (and i'm saying that coming from a Note 4)

I think there are Fans who just like CM or AOSP because of the look and feel aspect of stock. I can understand, but as stated in a number of statements here, there are some awesome aspects and hardware features with stock TW that will indeed be lost CM or AOSP - Big example are camara features to name one.
Now if you follow the theme section you will see there is a way to get stock material look - now mix it with Nova launcher you are GOLDEN..it will hold me over...

[RIP] OnePlus 3

Just going to leave this here.
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-3-officially-discontinued-us-europe-729580/
If this is indeed true how long will OnePlus continue to support and develop for a device they no longer sell?
And I really hope this is not true.

They already confirmed that both phones will be on the same schedule regarding updates.

Yup, here's the article:
http://www.xda-developers.com/exclu...at-it-means-for-the-future-of-your-oneplus-3/
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derdjango said:
They already confirmed that both phones will be on the same schedule regarding updates.
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Time will tell on this one.

It will be very interesting to see what path OP take now, they are sending out very mixed messages about the OP3 and this is not good at all.
I don't care if I cannot buy the phone anymore as long as they support it and develop for it as if it's STILL their flagship phone.

It's OnePlus don't expect any miracles, I love the device but so many draw backs within the company, software etc... makes me look past the pricing and should just stay with Pixel no compromises, OTA + Source on time no bs, My first and last OP device

Well considering the two devices are really similar and i don't think the development on s820/s821 is that different, the support will not die. OP knows OP3 is a successful phone and abandoning it within few months will mean they have lost valuable customers. OP 3T is a ****ty move from them, no doubt, and they have lost me as a customer for sure.

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Time will tell on this one.
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Coming from a developer (you make the no-root CM version, right?) does that mean you don't think community development will continue as is has before?

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Coming from a developer (you make the no-root CM version, right?) does that mean you don't think community development will continue as is has before?
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It will continue but it still needs OP to release the source code in a timely fashion, to update the blobs for the hardware to better support the camera, graphics, cpu and my concerns are despite what they say support will dry up it's just a matter of when.

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Well considering the two devices are really similar and i don't think the development on s820/s821 is that different, the support will not die. OP knows OP3 is a successful phone and abandoning it within few months will mean they have lost valuable customers. OP 3T is a ****ty move from them, no doubt, and they have lost me as a customer for sure.
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They are different enough to annoy some very well known dev's such as flar2 who develops elementalx and boeffla who develops kernels also for cm13/14/oos.
If the dev's say they will no longer purchase a oneplus then that's 2 or 3 or even more who will leave for pixel or other devices.

It's the first time for me, a manufacturer is reasoning an upgrade with high demand and getting parts faster to produce more devices... Especially as they were saying that the display was the troublemaker... Not the SoC, not the battery and not the front camera...

Dont think so, the oneplus 3 gets Support the whole Street.
Question is only what the Developers will do, will they leave for the op3t or will they stay. Think they could stay and Release there Kernels for the op3t also. Should be not so much difference or?

Can we cry right now?

Ye only if you don't have op3 yet
Devs here are to good to cry man

i dont see any point to cry. the support of every device ends somewhen, this isnt anything new right?
and as its said that updates for OP3 come along with updates for OP3T, the release of the OP3T basically changed nothing.
you can also say "RIP Phone X" as soon as its released because you know "Phone X 2" will come soon or later and the company will focus more on that new one.
so sorry but the title of this thread "[RIP] OnePlus 3" is nothing more than panicmongering without any base.

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i dont see any point to cry. the support of every device ends somewhen, this isnt anything new right?
and as its said that updates for OP3 come along with updates for OP3T, the release of the OP3T basically changed nothing.
you can also say "RIP Phone X" as soon as its released because you know "Phone X 2" will come soon or later and the company will focus more on that new one.
so sorry but the title of this thread "[RIP] OnePlus 3" is nothing more than panicmongering without any base.
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Not when the device is replaced after 4 months... Plus they haven't been sticking to their software update timeline still waiting for last months Stable OTA (I guess working on official N) and mostly source code is delayed already which is angering devs that want to work on this device meaning even more delays now they working on the 3T. Really ****ty move by 1+..

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Not when the device is replaced after 4 months... Plus they haven't been sticking to their software update timeline still waiting for last months Stable OTA (I guess working on official N) and mostly source code is delayed already which is angering devs that want to work on this device meaning even more delays now they working on the 3T. Really ****ty move by 1+..
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If it's so than i never buying op phone ever again

I can't believe the butthurt going on.
I've had android phones for long enough now, including a few Chinese ones too. Buying any phone other than a Nexus/Pixel is a gamble when it comes to updates.
Buy a phone for how it is NOW, as it is now the OP3 works great. It's getting android N too. If they ended it with just android N I'm classing it as a win! Anything after that is a bonus.
And I can't wait for all the crying when they release the OP4 and people are saying "My OP3T is obsolete after only 5 months" and "Am I getting a refund I've been robbed because you released a new phone without telling me".
I've owned phones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Huawei, ZTE and more than I can remember.
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They are different enough to annoy some very well known dev's such as flar2 who develops elementalx and boeffla who develops kernels also for cm13/14/oos.
If the dev's say they will no longer purchase a oneplus then that's 2 or 3 or even more who will leave for pixel or other devices.
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Boeffla has already confirmed he is not buying 3T. No idea about flar2. I personally wanted to wait for a nexus but the Pixel prices just ruined my dream of owning a Nexus phone, lol.

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Boeffla has already confirmed he is not buying 3T. No idea about flar2. I personally wanted to wait for a nexus but the Pixel prices just ruined my dream of owning a Nexus phone, lol.
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I was hoping they would do a scheme like apple early upgrade where you pay for it over 11 months then get a new phone on the 12th but hey no dice, shame really as I would never part with that much money for a phone if I had to buy it out right.

Do you expect there to be a thriving rom scene for the Note 9?

Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.

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Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
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Development is occurring less for these types of device for many reasons, but mainly locked bootloader's, price, not really a great need for root anymore. Of course there are folks that need root and use it.
I would love to see a stripped down TouchWiz ROM for the US version that looks like AOSP as much as possible. It'll never happen though sadly.

Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada

This doesn't even make sense, lol
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
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Yes, only exynos versions. As for the Note 8, currently there are a few roms out there.

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This doesn't even make sense, lol
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"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.

You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Reading comprehension is your strong point, I see. "I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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slaydog said:
You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.

No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
Semantics said:
Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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Semantics said:
"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.

TEWWY said:
It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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That's completely understandable.

Semantics said:
Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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slaydog said:
No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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You both are douche faces! ?
Just kidding... Those were good reads, lol. ??

bamfsig45 said:
Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.

swaze said:
They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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Then they are full of **** lol.
Snapdragon s9 has nothing, no root nada and thats been since April.
Each year security get tighter, and they kill whatever workaround was found before. Only going to get harder not easier.
Eirher buy exynos or a HK snapdragon if you want root, dont rely on workarounds these days
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swaze said:
They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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I think they say everytime a Samsung US Snapdragon phone is released, a good Dev disappears lol

I was suprised to see the rom forum was kind of barren compared to when I had my Note 4 and other devices. But that was before I had the phone in hand. Now that I see how easy it is to do most things that used to be much easier with root, it isn't too shocking that it's a little dead over there.

The phone has treble support
you can even get android P on it