Now, don't get the wrong idea. I'm not asking or demanding for ROMs or what have you. More like where are the developers. Are people not digging this phone and refusing to move over to it? Or is this thing off to a really slow start?
Again, I'm not asking for ETA, ROMs, mods, anything of that sort. Just wondering what the state of the g920t is in the developer realm.
If there is anything I would LOVE an ETA for or any information on for that matter is Cyanogenmod 12 lol I'm a CM head. Ran it exclusively on my S4 so I feel very out of place being stuck on Touchwiz. Although I must admit it's grown on me and is worlds better than past versions.
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Now, don't get the wrong idea. I'm not asking or demanding for ROMs or what have you. More like where are the developers. Are people not digging this phone and refusing to move over to it? Or is this thing off to a really slow start?
Again, I'm not asking for ETA, ROMs, mods, anything of that sort. Just wondering what the state of the g920t is in the developer realm.
If there is anything I would LOVE an ETA for or any information on for that matter is Cyanogenmod 12 lol I'm a CM head. Ran it exclusively on my S4 so I feel very out of place being stuck on Touchwiz. Although I must admit it's grown on me and is worlds better than past versions.
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The development on the aosp side of things has been really quiet, probably because they don't want to get peoples' hopes up. If you bought this device expecting to get cm12, it might not be a realistic expectation
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The development on the aosp side of things has been really quiet, probably because they don't want to get peoples' hopes up. If you bought this device expecting to get cm12, it might not be a realistic expectation
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Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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It's because exynos isn't open source, which gives the developers nothing to go on so they have to reverse engineer everything. It's not about hate, it's about documentation
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Completely understandable. And yea I did buy this phone expecting CM12. I've owned every Galaxy S phone except the 3 and 5 and had CM on every one of them. What I didn't know was the dislike for Exynos that exists among developers.
Hopefully this will change but you know what, Touchwiz is good enough to hold me over If nothing happens by the time jump comes back around I'll most likely drop this phone and jump over to the HTC One. Yes I love AOSP that much lol If it weren't for the Nexus 6 being so damn huge i'd be on that right now.
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If you were surprised about the lack of Exynos dev support, then you obviously did not do your homework before buying. Yes, there have been prior Exynos devices that (eventually) got CM, but it took many months of hard work and reverse engineering. You should never EVER buy a Samsung device with the expectation of having CM on it later (especially if it has Exynos). Die hard CM fans should stick with Nexus because those devices will always be the first to get CM. If you can't stand Touchwiz or any of the TW-based custom roms that are available, then you might as well sell your S6 now while you can get the most money for it.
The new Nexus coming out in November looks promising. Suppose to come in 2 sizes by 2 different makesr, one size I'm interested in is the smaller 5.4" model. I'll keep this S6 till then and Jump when the Nexus 5 2015 is available.
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Being a CM fan too, i think this device has a lot of potential with touchwiz based rom. Many contributors are working hard to bring fixes where samsung failed to deliver!
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The new Nexus coming out in November looks promising. Suppose to come in 2 sizes by 2 different makesr, one size I'm interested in is the smaller 5.4" model. I'll keep this S6 till then and Jump when the Nexus 5 2015 is available.
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Same here. I was planning to get the OnePlus Two, but not if it has SD810. I'll wait for a small Nexus.
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If you were surprised about the lack of Exynos dev support, then you obviously did not do your homework before buying. Yes, there have been prior Exynos devices that (eventually) got CM, but it took many months of hard work and reverse engineering. You should never EVER buy a Samsung device with the expectation of having CM on it later (especially if it has Exynos). Die hard CM fans should stick with Nexus because those devices will always be the first to get CM. If you can't stand Touchwiz or any of the TW-based custom roms that are available, then you might as well sell your S6 now while you can get the most money for it.
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Yes I made this clear above. I've never owned an Exynos device, so I made the leap assuming it would have CM support just like every other Galaxy S I've owned. Also I am a die hard AOSP fan but I've always preferred Galaxy S features like SAMOLED and external SD so I've always gotten a GS and called it a day. As I said earlier, the Nexus 6 is just too large so that's out of the question.
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Yes I made this clear above. I've never owned an Exynos device, so I made the leap assuming it would have CM support just like every other Galaxy S I've owned. Also I am a die hard AOSP fan but I've always preferred Galaxy S features like SAMOLED and external SD so I've always gotten a GS and called it a day. As I said earlier, the Nexus 6 is just too large so that's out of the question.
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Get the g4.
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Get the g4.
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NO. I despise LG. I used to own a G2x. Never trusted LG after that mess.
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NO. I despise LG. I used to own a G2x. Never trusted LG after that mess.
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I can understand your hesitation after the G2x but LG has come a long way. They still have a horrid UI but that's why we have custom ROMs. They still have snapdragon, as well. Not to mention some amazing hardware. Right up there with any other manufacturer (yes even considering their plastic back version...who doesn't use a case anyway) That all being said...I'm still getting the next Nexus lol LG and Sammy have some incredible features that aren't available in CM but stock Android is just too smooth
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Get the g4.
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Locked bootloader.
ambervals6 said:
Get the g4.
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Locked bootloader.
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Also unless something changed there isn't a "safe" way to root the g4.
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Also unless something changed there isn't a "safe" way to root the g4.
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The only change is LG released unlock bootloader tool for int'l non-carrier versions only.
So given that, i think we are on the best option (and i'm saying that coming from a Note 4)
I think there are Fans who just like CM or AOSP because of the look and feel aspect of stock. I can understand, but as stated in a number of statements here, there are some awesome aspects and hardware features with stock TW that will indeed be lost CM or AOSP - Big example are camara features to name one.
Now if you follow the theme section you will see there is a way to get stock material look - now mix it with Nova launcher you are GOLDEN..it will hold me over...
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Hi all,
I know the N4 has enough source code in AOSP and elsewhere to be able to build an AOSP ROM, but it doesn't quite seem "official" and doesn't offer that undeniable security of "Nexus support" that many have come to know and love. Now, I know people have said it's due to the Qualcomm chip being so new that it would take time to officially work it in, and that it'll likely come around with 4.2.2. Even still, I'm paranoid (just having bought an N4 myself). Is anyone else worried about the N4's future? Or is it just buyer's paranoia?
I'd love to hear some thoughts on this!
Just paranoid, you can't build a fully working Nexus 7 ROM solely from AOSP either, thanks to Tegra.
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Just paranoid, you can't build a fully working Nexus 7 ROM solely from AOSP either, thanks to Tegra.
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I figured that it was just that. But I suppose I was just seeking some reassurance haha. Between the recent articles on LG only making "as many Nexus 4's as they want," the speculations going around about the Nexus 5, and this lack of any word on AOSP support, I just got awfully scared that the Nexus 4 might be one of those devices that isn't around and supported for very long.
Speculations....Don't you love them when device is new...
Give it another month or two and everything will go back to "normal", just like with any other device.
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Speculations....Don't you love them when device is new...
Give it another month or two and everything will go back to "normal", just like with any other device.
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Haha I know, I know. But this was a big buy for me; relatively expensive and I'm ditching VZW for it. I'm just worried that I'll regret it later on, I guess.
andoird213 said:
Haha I know, I know. But this was a big buy for me; relatively expensive and I'm ditching VZW for it. I'm just worried that I'll regret it later on, I guess.
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Learn to support yourself?
If you are relying on others to satisfy your purchase, well sooner or later you'll be in an unsupported boat.
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Learn to support yourself?
If you are relying on others to satisfy your purchase, well sooner or later you'll be in an unsupported boat.
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I've built AOSP for it myself, that isn't the issue; it's a more general statement. I'm not relying on anyone for satisfaction, but there's a certain plus to being in a larger community rather than in one where it's only a few who feel stuck with the device.
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I've built AOSP for it myself, that isn't the issue; it's a more general statement. I'm not relying on anyone for satisfaction, but there's a certain plus to being in a larger community rather than in one where it's only a few who feel stuck with the device.
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Thats true. This is the nexus. I think you are ok there.
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Thats true. This is the nexus. I think you are ok there.
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Here's to that!
Okay first of all, I have only made one ROM ever, so I am not the brightest on this subject. My question though is for a Dev that is fairly smart. Would it be possible for those itching to have lollipop on their Note 4, but who don't want to lose Touchwiz features, to install the international Note 3 5.0 ROM on their Note 4 if a Dev would port it. If its possible why hasn't some talented dev( because there are several here) ported it yet. I know the structure would be a little different, but I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to port it with some tinkering. Just let me know if I am way off base or if this would be something to really look at.
why would anyone bother trying to port the note 3 version, when the actual Note 4 version will be here any day?
anyone anxious to try lollipop has several AOSP type roms to try, so waiting for the TW version is no big deal at this point
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Okay first of all, I have only made one ROM ever, so I am not the brightest on this subject. My question though is for a Dev that is fairly smart. Would it be possible for those itching to have lollipop on their Note 4, but who don't want to lose Touchwiz features, to install the international Note 3 5.0 ROM on their Note 4 if a Dev would port it. If its possible why hasn't some talented dev( because there are several here) ported it yet. I know the structure would be a little different, but I'm thinking it would be entirely possible to port it with some tinkering. Just let me know if I am way off base or if this would be something to really look at.
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Im kinda surprised the Note Edge leak hasnt trickled over in some form.
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why would anyone bother trying to port the note 3 version, when the actual Note 4 version will be here any day?
anyone anxious to try lollipop has several AOSP type roms to try, so waiting for the TW version is no big deal at this point
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Because no one really knows when the note 4 version will be here, as far as I know. Also I'm just going by the sheer volume of Roms available, I would think a correct Note 3 port would have been highly popular. Honestly AOSP Roms just won't work for a lot of Samsung fans, someone who wants to take full advantage of their Gear watch, or other samsung products linked to Touchwiz enabled devices.
good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
Most people will just wait. Porting over a waste of time for devs. Now if they knew 5.0 would never come then that is a different story.
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good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
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I agree it is an insult to Samsung fans to neglect your customers like that.
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good points; I guess since the "promise" of official Samsung lolli has been out there for so long, the folks who want an official Samsung 5.0 are holding out for it; you never know if a "ported" version will have all the features that the Samsung die hard fans want in their Samsung roms, so that might be part of it..
its gotta show up soon, and its insulting to the folks who own the top Samsung phone on the market that they aren't/weren't the first ones to get this on their note 4's..
Its blunders like this that will eventually cost Samsung their leadership in the cell phone world, if it hasn't already..
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Most people will just wait. Porting over a waste of time for devs. Now if they knew 5.0 would never come then that is a different story.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
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But we never really know when it will be here, it could be November. The sad fact is the Note 5 may be out by the time Samsung gets it done, and the carriers finish adding bloat, and finally decide its time to release it. Even if you are just waiting for the international version to release, we have no clue when that may be.
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But we never really know when it will be here, it could be November. The sad fact is the Note 5 may be out by the time Samsung gets it done, and the carriers finish adding bloat, and finally decide its time to release it. Even if you are just waiting for the international version to release, we have no clue when that may be.
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Blame TMOBILE lol. They can push Samsung in getting it done. Then Samsung will say we done tomible has it lol. Either way. I feel bad for all those waiting daily for it to drop. I for one will stay with nk4. Lollipop will not offer me much from what I can see so far.
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Blame TMOBILE lol. They can push Samsung in getting it done. Then Samsung will say we done tomible has it lol. Either way. I feel bad for all those waiting daily for it to drop. I for one will stay with nk4. Lollipop will not offer me much from what I can see so far.
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I get that, but can you honestly say if the ROM was available you wouldn't flash it and try it out giddily?
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I get that, but can you honestly say if the ROM was available you wouldn't flash it and try it out giddily?
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Honestly I would not flash it. Not a fan of the look and the pull down menu. I actually like stock for this phone. Tried flashing most that are here and always found my way back to stock deodex.
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Honestly I would not flash it. Not a fan of the look and the pull down menu. I actually like stock for this phone. Tried flashing most that are here and always found my way back to stock deodex.
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Idk, but being the tinkerer you are, like me, I can't see you passing up the ROM, at least to try it.
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It's funny that we don't have a port for the Note 4 and over at the Note 3 forum section
They have a Note 4 port!!! Note 4!!! For the Note 3!?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-tw-note-4-port-5-0-1-darklord-rom-1-t3017604
I know its coming but I do want a tw lollipop that runs well every other aosp ROM gets my phone really hot and I hate that although I appreciate the work the devs do porting them.
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It's funny that we don't have a port for the Note 4 and over at the Note 3 forum section
They have a Note 4 port!!! Note 4!!! For the Note 3!?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-tw-note-4-port-5-0-1-darklord-rom-1-t3017604
I know its coming but I do want a tw lollipop that runs well every other aosp ROM gets my phone really hot and I hate that although I appreciate the work the devs do porting them.
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Yeah this is pretty crazy how Ironic it must be nice.I just hope when we get it for the note 4 it was worth the wait.
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The reason that nothing has been ported to this device is we need the kernel gods to do their thing. Any day now. Kernel is the issue for us right now.
I know this is early. Lol I know. I was just curious of anyone's heard anything about it yet. I'm going to upgrade to the GS6 but only when CM gets released. I refuse to use TW. And now that Google has abandoned the GPe program this makes it even harder to upgrade.
So.. any news?
If you bought the S6 expecting a ton of development you'll be very disappointed. ..
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If you bought the S6 expecting a ton of development you'll be very disappointed. ..
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That's quite a daft thing to say considering the Galaxy S line is right behind the Nexus when it comes to development popularity..
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I don't think there's much support for the exynos processor yet. You could always try building it yourself and reporting back though .
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Haha no lol I'm just really bored with my S4 and want to upgrade but realized I'd be sacrificing a lot of functionality if I did. Since you good people have adopted the GS6 early I thought you'd be up to snuff on any development news for it. No worries though. I got some pondering to do.
By the time your done pondering on S6 / cm, will be looking at the next great thing SG9 .
Lol.
Pp.
Sheeeeeet ain't nuttin happenin'
Why would you want to buy a galaxy s5/6 and put cyanogenmod on it? Are you not buying it for the camera/thumb print scanner or samsung pay which will suck or not work at all on cm? If you want cm so bad other flagship phones cover that nich much better. You buy a expensive phone and make all the features that make it expensive useless, makes no sense to me.
Nope I'm not buying it for the thumb scanner, or Samsung pay. Everything I need, CM gives me. Have been using it since CM7 and has given me everything I want.
Stock Android>
In my opinion at least. Battery life is much better, OS is more responsive. And as far as I have seen for myself there is no difference between picture quality between TW and stock Android.
Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
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Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
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Development is occurring less for these types of device for many reasons, but mainly locked bootloader's, price, not really a great need for root anymore. Of course there are folks that need root and use it.
I would love to see a stripped down TouchWiz ROM for the US version that looks like AOSP as much as possible. It'll never happen though sadly.
Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
This doesn't even make sense, lol
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
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Yes, only exynos versions. As for the Note 8, currently there are a few roms out there.
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This doesn't even make sense, lol
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"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Reading comprehension is your strong point, I see. "I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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Semantics said:
"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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That's completely understandable.
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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You both are douche faces! ?
Just kidding... Those were good reads, lol. ??
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Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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Then they are full of **** lol.
Snapdragon s9 has nothing, no root nada and thats been since April.
Each year security get tighter, and they kill whatever workaround was found before. Only going to get harder not easier.
Eirher buy exynos or a HK snapdragon if you want root, dont rely on workarounds these days
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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I think they say everytime a Samsung US Snapdragon phone is released, a good Dev disappears lol
I was suprised to see the rom forum was kind of barren compared to when I had my Note 4 and other devices. But that was before I had the phone in hand. Now that I see how easy it is to do most things that used to be much easier with root, it isn't too shocking that it's a little dead over there.
The phone has treble support
you can even get android P on it
This post is not demand a build for our phone, this post is not to get anybody upset it is just a question that I've had for many years.
I've owned every single Nexus device up until the Nexus 6P, and have owned every single pixel device... I remember that with each Nexus phone the support scene was so robust that you look forward to a new phone to come out and see development on it...
For some reason pixel phones are one of the only phones that don't get love from any custom ROM development out there.. you see that lineage OS does not support our phone and has not supported our phone since the Pixel 1 officially. Paranoid Android has not supported our phone at all since the Pixel 1 , And the last official update from them was in 2017.. why is it that our phone being one of the latest phones does not get love?
The main thing that I've heard is that our phone is too expensive to build for, but I have seen the OnePlus 7 pro have vast support in the community and it is almost up there as far as pricing goes as the pixel.
I have always been one to contribute to donations or to work that's worth donating to, dirty unicorns has been a great ROM, but if you think about it our selection of ROMs can be counted with one hand .
Make Google phones great again!
I also believe the pixels don't attract the custom rom enthusiasts like us they are made & sold & marketed to people to be a iPhone competitor also I feel a lot of developers are getting older & many devs just support a few phones that's it & there are not as many devs on the scene like there were years ago unfortunately I remember have my OG Droid from Verizon the support was crazy unfortunately I feel we have to look at it this way its a end of a era for google phones sad to say
Those custom roms are made to make our experience feel like Pixel. They take here and there from pixel feature. Since we are using pixel software, so what the point of having the custom rom? Kernel is more important. Thanks god we have artemis and kiri. Soon we will have Proton or maybe Sultan.
Btw we dont have TWRP support while there is for OP7Pro. Install a custom rom or make one is pain in the ass.
Because they consistently don't live up to expectations. Everybody keeps waiting for them to live up to hype and at least attempt to challenge others with hardware or respond to feedback and they continue to ignore that feedback. it's still in all right device, I like it it's overpriced as hell and I'm glad I waited a few months to get it, still tempted by the OnePlus 8 pro after leaving my 7 pro for this.
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Because they consistently don't live up to expectations. Everybody keeps waiting for them to live up to hype and at least attempt to challenge others with hardware or respond to feedback and they continue to ignore that feedback. it's still in all right device, I like it it's overpriced as hell and I'm glad I waited a few months to get it, still tempted by the OnePlus 8 pro after leaving my 7 pro for this.
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Better off going back to the 7 pro.It jus got Dual boot twrp. I'm running Oos and lineage as of this writing tomorrow might be different :laugh: . I got a 3xl and it lost twrp after Android 9 you can fastboot boot it with half the functions not working the 7t the same way an id imagine 8 pro be the same. Only way to have fun with Magisk on the 3xl Android 10 is to be running a user-debug build. Without the debug build magisk will let you overlay the system an look at your data but that's bout it. The way things look nowadays looking alot more locked down then they used to wait til Android 11 hits even more so is the case. Now Google going to build their own chipset like Samsung with help from Samsung Which will bring us one more step closer to Google Fuschia instead of Android
ROMs in general have gone down hill.
The need for them isn't really there. Early on, Android phones had tons of issues, shortcoming and limitations... ROMs were a way around that, to get the phones to work the way we wanted and the way they should have come out of the box.
Now? Most phones are really good, and there's not much to improve. ROM's don't really have much to offer any more, other than to a shrinking pool of users who want to tweak their phones more than they actually USE their phones...
Adding upon all comments above one of the reason is people are stuck with IOS. They don't know the actual power of Android. Who ever tries the Android are forced to go back to ios again because lack of facetime and other apps that are only available only ios
alwynjoshy said:
Adding upon all comments above one of the reason is people are stuck with IOS. They don't know the actual power of Android. Who ever tries the Android are forced to go back to ios again because lack of facetime and other apps that are only available only ios
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Realistically, what's the power of android these days? Yes, you can tweak icons and the status bar and stuff, which 99.99% of phone owners don't care about...
The differences between the platforms isn't as great as it once was... I am on an iPhone 11 Pro at the moment and its a great phone... I want to come back to Android at some point but the watch situation on Android is a joke. And for the Pixels... they just never live up to the hype. I love Samsung, but updates still suck. There is OnePlus but some of the features like Wifi calling don't work on ATT half the time...
I prefer Android overall, but if you want the complete package with a good watch, Apple has the better package.
I had high hopes for Essential but we saw where that went...
I wish that Google would put out a pixel without giant bezels, that didn't have a last generation processor, etc... They will put out a phone in November that's using the same specs as phones that came out last month...
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Realistically, what's the power of android these days? Yes, you can tweak icons and the status bar and stuff, which 99.99% of phone owners don't care about...
The differences between the platforms isn't as great as it once was... I am on an iPhone 11 Pro at the moment and its a great phone... I want to come back to Android at some point but the watch situation on Android is a joke. And for the Pixels... they just never live up to the hype. I love Samsung, but updates still suck. There is OnePlus but some of the features like Wifi calling don't work on ATT half the time...
I prefer Android overall, but if you want the complete package with a good watch, Apple has the better package.
I had high hopes for Essential but we saw where that went...
I wish that Google would put out a pixel without giant bezels, that didn't have a last generation processor, etc... They will put out a phone in November that's using the same specs as phones that came out last month...
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There are few functions which apple cant replace using of Clone applications, Root functions apps, custom fonts and many
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There are few functions which apple cant replace using of Clone applications, Root functions apps, custom fonts and many
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Realistically, today, what does the average person need root access on their phone for? I haven't rooted or ROM'd in several years... The tinkerer in me wants to, but I never find any compelling reason to...
I just don't care enough about what font my Instagram icon uses...
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Realistically, today, what does the average person need root access on their phone for? I haven't rooted or ROM'd in several years... The tinkerer in me wants to, but I never find any compelling reason to...
I just don't care enough about what font my Instagram icon uses...
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my root need are viperfx, swift theme installer, fingerface , Sd maid ( save 2GB in every week when cleanup), etc
I have a Galaxy Note 10+. One of the heavy flagship phones from last year. There's about 3 ROMS and the communication in the threads is just about non-existent.
It's kinda sad because I remember my Note 4 having a ****load of AOSP ROM options and this phone has 1 that hasn't been updated in months. I would love to root/flash a ROM on my phone but I think the main thing is a lack of developers. Most have probably moved on and don't see a point in developing custom ROMs when most phones nowadays are capable of doing almost anything. The main reason I rooted/flashed ROMs was for the ability to customize my phone to my liking.
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I have a Galaxy Note 10+. One of the heavy flagship phones from last year. There's about 3 ROMS and the communication in the threads is just about non-existent.
It's kinda sad because I remember my Note 4 having a ****load of AOSP ROM options and this phone has 1 that hasn't been updated in months. I would love to root/flash a ROM on my phone but I think the main thing is a lack of developers. Most have probably moved on and don't see a point in developing custom ROMs when most phones nowadays are capable of doing almost anything. The main reason I rooted/flashed ROMs was for the ability to customize my phone to my liking.
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Exactly, and today, so many stock phones allow most of the customization that ROMs used to have to provide... And if not, install a different launcher and there are your themes...
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This post is not demand a build for our phone, this post is not to get anybody upset it is just a question that I've had for many years.
I've owned every single Nexus device up until the Nexus 6P, and have owned every single pixel device... I remember that with each Nexus phone the support scene was so robust that you look forward to a new phone to come out and see development on it...
For some reason pixel phones are one of the only phones that don't get love from any custom ROM development out there.. you see that lineage OS does not support our phone and has not supported our phone since the Pixel 1 officially. Paranoid Android has not supported our phone at all since the Pixel 1 , And the last official update from them was in 2017.. why is it that our phone being one of the latest phones does not get love?
The main thing that I've heard is that our phone is too expensive to build for, but I have seen the OnePlus 7 pro have vast support in the community and it is almost up there as far as pricing goes as the pixel.
I have always been one to contribute to donations or to work that's worth donating to, dirty unicorns has been a great ROM, but if you think about it our selection of ROMs can be counted with one hand .
Make Google phones great again!
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IMO Pixels don’t have the fan base of the type of enthusiast that install custom ROMs and such. Higher spec phones like OnePlus and stuff like they are more heavily modded i feel like because those types of people are attracted to the specs. Pixels don’t have specs that are anything to write home about. Where as a OnePlus with 12GB of RAM is pretty impressive.
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IMO Pixels don’t have the fan base of the type of enthusiast that install custom ROMs and such. Higher spec phones like OnePlus and stuff like they are more heavily modded i feel like because those types of people are attracted to the specs. Pixels don’t have specs that are anything to write home about. Where as a OnePlus with 12GB of RAM is pretty impressive.
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That's probably it right there. The latest and greatest Pixel, uses specs that are already obsolete... Every year, they bring half year old specs and release their new phones with comparable specs to everyone else's specs that are already on the way out.
My thoughts below are mine, and mine only..
The reason you don't see as many custom roms here on xda imho is because it's no longer a hub that's a viable place for most roms to gain any value. the passion for development hasn't died. There are many great new features, and things users would love. Sure, the pixels are great out of the box, but you can say that for any flagship that has come out recently.
Don't get me wrong, xda is great, I'm just saying you shouldn't think devs and users have lost interest because their content isn't on xda.
I mean you're right,. It's different than the days of installing a ROM on a Droid x or something and actually seeing a notable difference between Moto blur and not. Or my note two with some of the different runs I could get on it. I don't know, I think I would like the freedom to make different apps different notifications so that I could customize notifications by app or by person a little easier for text messages. Little things like that that I feel like I used to get in some of those older arms but maybe not maybe I'm just misremembering or something.
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My thoughts below are mine, and mine only..
The reason you don't see as many custom roms here on xda imho is because it's no longer a hub that's a viable place for most roms to gain any value. the passion for development hasn't died. There are many great new features, and things users would love. Sure, the pixels are great out of the box, but you can say that for any flagship that has come out recently.
Don't get me wrong, xda is great, I'm just saying you shouldn't think devs and users have lost interest because their content isn't on xda.
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Where should one go to get ROM's for this device?
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Where should one go to get ROM's for this device?
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After hours of research I think I have found some in the ROM section of this forum
Mackay53 said:
After hours of research I think I have found some in the ROM section of this forum
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Why not try reading before you post, and make yourself look foolish.