WOW!!! (over-excitement)
I'm a smartphone geek and I always thought the Samsung Wave was just another high-end feature-phone, probably loaded with Symbian r WindowsMobile6.
On sites I kept reading "it has similar specs to Galaxy S" everywhere so I was prompted to check it out.
And they're right its got the same Hummingbird and 512mb RAM! (not sure about the SGX540 graphics though that would be OVERkill!!!) Also they share all the same features (unsure about Wifi-n and TVout), excludig the LED torch of some SGS's.
And I've got to say it is more beautifully built than the Galaxy S.
I think it is better than that plastic beast in EVERY way except smaller screen size and OS.
I was "saving up" and doing research on which GalaxyS to purchase or import (I live in Australia), BUT now I've changed my mind.
I hope and someone talented can get root access on BADA's custom linux kernel and find a means of installing CFW. Then perhaps the Galaxy S ROM might go straight in and have the correct drivers. Then the hard parts over, less-experienced (but still highly praised) developers can iron out the bugs, improve response, stability and battery life.
I'm a long-time follower of XDANDROID, so yes I know what it takes. But since underneath its still running a linux kernel, the Android Rom would be easily execute and flash once Root is accessed. Fingers crossed the inards are very similar/same (to Galaxy S), since that's a sexy-beast and it would mean we already have the drivers needed.
And what makes this proposal so so and so (lost for words here, great doesn't cut it), is that this phone bought outright is very cheap and its also offered on some of the cheapest plans ... like FREE if your on the $19 plan @2yrs.
Plz Plz, someone make this happen (and also let me know if its the SGX540 in there), I'm willing to donate. In fact, if we can get a SGS ROM that isn't too bad, I will happily pay half or a third of the difference between this and the SGS (sorry I'm a poor uni student with gadgetphilia). And I believe so would most Wave owners, once they realize the benefits!
hi,
I have just brought the 7inch samsung tablet. Its still on 2.1 as KIERS tells me i have the lastest fireware.... Are there any custom roms out.?
Thanks
shabz1309 said:
hi,
I have just brought the 7inch samsung tablet. Its still on 2.1 as KIERS tells me i have the lastest fireware.... Are there any custom roms out.?
Thanks
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+1, I believe so, and they are on the DEV forum, but it looks like the roms are specific to the version of tab you got!!
So be very careful, the WIFI only tabs are "P1010" so make sure you the posts/external websites lnked on the forum of the ROM you are considering to ensure that it works on P1010.
As I almost started the install OVERCOME when I checked the external site, its states specifically not for WIfI Only.
But keep looking.
Good luck
I have a tab wifi -p1010 ,it was a present and it stays on dust because is no usefull.Samsung just wanted to sell to stupids people like us ,their interest are just money,so we will have no updates to gingerbread,honeycomb,etc...I saw in tab development a lot of custom ROM and i am sure that is possible to put in our ,,cheap tab,, a custom rom,but,as long our place is just in in Q&A section,as long we don.t talk with devs ,we will not succed.I am pretty sure that samsung sold a lot of wifi tab so, we should find a way that someone (devs/chefs) see us..
ANY SUGGESTION?
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ANY SUGGESTION?
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Yes. Buy yourself a proper tab. I will. And it will not be Samsung again.....
having search high and low there seems to be nothing for this tablet - ;o(
I do not understand why this can't be ported - it is on the same TI OMAP SOC that other gingerbread devices use.
See my technical question about this posted at this URL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357414
It can be ported, but devs does't bother to do it. They prefer new shiny superduper tabs, our is packed with old HW.
Well shoot, lets offer them some kind of gift then. Since it should be a matter of removing cell modem and sim drivers, shouldn't be too much work right?
I am willing to kick up 20$ to the dev group for a CM7 or GB update. Any other P1010 owner's want to chip in to such a fund?
Any dev's interested in some holiday bucks?
I would throw in £10 for a gb/cm port
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I would throw in $10 for ics ported. About time for a bounty thread.
20 euro from my part for any custom rom with gingerbread
20$ at least from me. Wife bought this for me last year, feel bad cause I get hardly any use out of it now :/ would love to have some new life breathed into it.
U$S 30 from me. GB at least ! ! !....
Greetings fellow XDAs.
Currently I'm using a LG Optimus 2X, and I'm considering buying a Samsung Galaxy Note.
I'm more or less satisfied with the o2x, but I'm am getting sick and tired with the lack of support for the open-source community from LG/nVidia.
The main problem as I understand it is drivers, so it's allways a challange to get all the hardware working.
I'm no developer, so I'm not sure if I ask the correct question here, but is the Note a proper open system phone? does developers have all the necessary information to create driver for new versions of android?
Thanks in advance
Christian
DeathscytheDK said:
Greetings fellow XDAs.
Currently I'm using a LG Optimus 2X, and I'm considering buying a Samsung Galaxy Note.
I'm more or less satisfied with the o2x, but I'm am getting sick and tired with the lack of support for the open-source community from LG/nVidia.
The main problem as I understand it is drivers, so it's allways a challange to get all the hardware working.
I'm no developer, so I'm not sure if I ask the correct question here, but is the Note a proper open system phone? does developers have all the necessary information to create driver for new versions of android?
Thanks in advance
Christian
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Christian the SG Note has invaded the scene quite with a bang... Developers have been giving us support on pretty much all that we asked for!
We have :
Custom Roms (You just have to try "Rocket Rom" , "Darkys Rom" , "CheckROM Revo" and tons more)
Leaked ICS (early stages but a solid built ! Thanks for all the guys working hard!)
Custom Kernels (AMAZINGLY improved battery life + performance)
My personal opinion about the Note ?? Its on its first steps... Not everything is perfect!!!! overclocking is a bit unstable so you need to watch out and some other minor glitches need to be fixed but on main view i think the open-source community is supporting this device wonderfully and i am 100% sure that there are much more features to come
P.S. if you do get a Note , watch out !!!!!!!! THIS PHONE IS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE + YOU WILL NEVER GOING TO BUY A SMALLER PHONE!!!! EVER !!! hope i was helpfull ! have a nice day
Thx great input.
Do you know by any chance, how good Samsung been at feeding the devs. what they need?
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Samsung recently organised a contest that will give $205,000 in cash and prizes for those who will develop the best S-Pen apps
So developers are in a way even motivated by Samsung
If you wana check it out go here
But remember that flash counter!
In other devices like Motorola, HTC, and etc we don't have to worry about that, so Samsung is really not that open. Yes the are ways to avoid the counter but the fact that Samsung has that "feature" makes me think it's not that open at all.
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yes you are right
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But remember that flash counter!
In other devices like Motorola, HTC, and etc we don't have to worry about that, so Samsung is really not that open. Yes the are ways to avoid the counter but the fact that Samsung has that "feature" makes me think it's not that open at all.
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Yes it is very annoying...
Driver developers don't get much from Samsung, though. On the other hand, there are other sources for some of what we need on the Note from here: http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/index.php
So it is a very "open" device with a good community and some good devs.
Just follow the instructions here to root without increasing the counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331784
After that you can install what you want using CWM and it won't affect the counter, either.
The hardware is awesome.
Rayan said:
But remember that flash counter!
In other devices like Motorola, HTC, and etc we don't have to worry about that, so Samsung is really not that open. Yes the are ways to avoid the counter but the fact that Samsung has that "feature" makes me think it's not that open at all.
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True, but this can be (mostly) avoided by showing PC Odin the middle finger. Don't use it if you're not going to flash a stock ROM.
PC Odin = ONLY for stock ROMs
CWM/Mobile Odin = Custom ROMs
Easy peasy.
Thanks you alle for sharing your knowledg.
I'v allmost convinced my self to buy the GNote.
But as I read it. When Android 7.0 is released (I know I know ), driver devs might have a tough time making driver for the kernels, because the chipset/platform isn't "open". Or an I wrong?
- Christian
DeathscytheDK said:
Thanks you alle for sharing your knowledg.
I'v allmost convinced my self to buy the GNote.
But as I read it. When Android 7.0 is released (I know I know ), driver devs might have a tough time making driver for the kernels, because the chipset/platform isn't "open". Or an I wrong?
- Christian
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Galaxy S has Android 4.0 which was not released or supported by Samsung.
So even if you are correct, the devs overcame those issues on Galaxy S.
Is it possible to port over Nexus 4 ROMs (including 4.4 KitKat) to HTC First? HTC has released the kernel source code for our phones. I like the Nexus experience, and don't really want CM. If HTC made Nexus handsets for Google I would have bought that instead, but the minimalist nature of the First really appeals to me.
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Is it possible to port over Nexus 4 ROMs (including 4.4 KitKat) to HTC First? HTC has released the kernel source code for our phones. I like the Nexus experience, and don't really want CM. If HTC made Nexus handsets for Google I would have bought that instead, but the minimalist nature of the First really appeals to me.
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um that isnt quite as easy as you think. porting cm is easier cause our phone has hardware relatives like the HTC One mini which use the same drivers and stuff like that. also our screen size matches the One mini so porting it would be as easy as 1-2-3. it does take time but it will be a hell of alot faster than BUILDING an AOSP rom. to make aosp work 1, you would need screensize and other hardware compatibility, then 2, the rom was never made for htc and 3, there is not flashable zip of the stock rom to base the OS off of, so it would requre alot more work. trust me , cm and and aosp arent much different so dont worry.
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um that isnt quite as easy as you think. porting cm is easier cause our phone has hardware relatives like the HTC One mini which use the same drivers and stuff like that. also our screen size matches the One mini so porting it would be as easy as 1-2-3. it does take time but it will be a hell of alot faster than BUILDING an AOSP rom. to make aosp work 1, you would need screensize and other hardware compatibility, then 2, the rom was never made for htc and 3, there is not flashable zip of the stock rom to base the OS off of, so it would requre alot more work. trust me , cm and and aosp arent much different so dont worry.
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Since I have no experience porting Android I can't say that you are incorrect, but isn't the binary architecture of applications the same (ARMv7-A Krait instruction set?), the screen is reasonably similar (1280x720 vs 1280x768, or Nexus 4 having 48 extra pixels on the width in portrait mode). Basically, it's not possible to just stick our device-specific kernel (and kernel modules, aka drivers) in there and have everything else just work? Before Android, I had no problems compiling a new Linux kernel for my distro with new options and applications worked just fine.
By the way, HTC promised a 4.4 KitKat update for HTC One Mini which AFAIK is 95% same as our First. Would it be possible to port that ROM? I'd still prefer Nexus though.
Yeah it would be possible to port 4.4 from the the One Mini, I'm not to sure how stable it would be though I'd foresee the usual bluetooth,camera,wifi issues.
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Yeah it would be possible to port 4.4 from the the One Mini, I'm not to sure how stable it would be though I'd foresee the usual bluetooth,camera,wifi issues.
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Why would there be bluetooth/camera/wifi issues? We would use our own kernel with correctly configured modules. Both First and One Mini kernel source is out, can't we just run a comparison to see what's different? From the look of it they use the same Linux kernel release, so differences should be few (at least no false positives from different module versions). If newer Android builds will use newer Linux kernel, we can add those differences that we will know of after we do the First vs One Mini source comparison.
I think running the patch program would be an easy way to find the affected source files, as files with no differences will generate no patch lines.
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Yeah it would be possible to port 4.4 from the the One Mini, I'm not to sure how stable it would be though I'd foresee the usual bluetooth,camera,wifi issues.
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It's a darn LG. It would like either 1. Take for ever or 2. Impossible
We are using an HTC lol
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It's a darn LG. It would like either 1. Take for ever or 2. Impossible
We are using an HTC lol
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I don't follow what you mean about incompatibility of LG. It's still the same CPU architecture, and neither the Linux kernel nor the Android operating system are the developments of LG. Explain please.
I'm a computer engineer with a bit of custom hardware core development experience for embedded systems running Linux. I just don't see why there's a problem swapping out all the hardware-specific stuff from underneath Android as long as CPU architecture remains the same.
I have years of Linux experience, just not Android-specific.
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I don't follow what you mean about incompatibility of LG. It's still the same CPU architecture, and neither the Linux kernel nor the Android operating system are the developments of LG. Explain please.
I'm a computer engineer with a bit of custom hardware core development experience for embedded systems running Linux. I just don't see why there's a problem swapping out all the hardware-specific stuff from underneath Android as long as CPU architecture remains the same.
I have years of Linux experience, just not Android-specific.
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well.
1. ive seen people try, its not as easy as it seems.
2. think of it as windows. you install it on your pc, it will take another several hours just to download and install various drivers and software for your hardware.
the thing is not just in the android OS. the os should be able to auto adapt itself to any android capable device. BUT we have to consider 1. drivers for the adreno 305 and the snapdragon 400. we also need kernel/baseband capability. the nexus is pretty much a BLANK device with absolutely nothing on it, and they install a stock kernel and stock rom. we would have to go in and make the kernel work, which hopefuly we can just use a ready built one, and then tweak the rom + kernel to fit the harware, whcih will include the capatative side of the screen, and camera, and everything else, and the ram. and that. although technicaly some of it will be there, its not as easy as you might think.
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see, ive worked on an ARMv6 device, and its like much harder than an ARMv7 which has alot of similarities. and mind you, im not saying its IMPOSSIBLE, and im not saying its extremely hard. im sure it can be done, but porting cm form a mimic device like the One Mini would be easier than a Nexus 4, or a Nexus 5 at that.
here. maybe this will make my point clear...its not easy eve for big companies, not just for a single person
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android
Wouldn't it be easier and more connivent to port from the HTC one xl? It does have a good amount of great ROMs
abrahammmmmmm_ said:
Wouldn't it be easier and more connivent to port from the HTC one xl? It does have a good amount of great ROMs
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its not the ROM, gosh. its the HARDWARE. the One mini has pretty much identical hardware, therefore its easier. if we can atleast get ONE rom ported successfully everything else would be much easier cause the that rom could be used as a base for other ports...
the XL, well the major difference is the adreno 225 vs our 305, plus we have more sensors...
so um...posibly? you could give it ago if you want
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its not the ROM, gosh. its the HARDWARE. the One mini has pretty much identical hardware, therefore its easier. if we can atleast get ONE rom ported successfully everything else would be much easier cause the that rom could be used as a base for other ports...
the XL, well the major difference is the adreno 225 vs our 305, plus we have more sensors...
so um...posibly? you could give it ago if you want
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I see what you mean, but I wasn't really aware of the great difference of the adreno 225 & 305. When checking it out I only heard there was some very minor tweaks done to the 225 to get the 305. And I'd actually give it a go if it wasn't for how easily this phone bricks, I guess I'll just have to be patient and wait to see what our great devs we've got can whip up for now
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its not the ROM, gosh. its the HARDWARE. the One mini has pretty much identical hardware, therefore its easier. if we can atleast get ONE rom ported successfully everything else would be much easier cause the that rom could be used as a base for other ports...
the XL, well the major difference is the adreno 225 vs our 305, plus we have more sensors...
so um...posibly? you could give it ago if you want
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Modern operating systems are built on the principle of abstraction layers. The *nix kernels place devices as memory pointers on the filesystem tree (they are not files however in the literal sense), so you can swap out hardware and kernel but maintaining the same pointer names and your upper level application won't care at all, as a matter of fact it may not even know it runs on different hardware from before. The "ROM" that you download and flash onto your device is not monolithic, it's made up of components and the Linux kernel and Android OS, and the rest of the applications are separate parts. You should be able swap out the hardware specific layer, otherwise the design of the OS won't be worth a damn.
From user's perspective however "ROM" means something else, it means a specific set of features, be it pre-installed apps, eyecandy (like Sense or Touchwiz), or other miscellaneous bloatware. Basically it's a snapshot of an environment, which defines the user experience. HTC has their own tailored user experience which they ship with their phones like the One mini, with Sense, and probably some carrier restrictions (like custom restricted Wi-Fi tethering on AT&T). HTC first, because it's a product manufactured FOR Facebook, and marketed as A Facebook phone, has a different user experience from typical HTC products. Samsung has their own tailored user experience with their own apps and Touchwiz. Finally LG makes their own phones too, however the Nexus device they make for Google is a Google product, and Google tailors the user experience for their product. I like Google's vision of the smartphone user experience (I had a Nexus One before), and that's what I want to achieve with the current phone. True, that I could have bought a Nexus 4, however HTC's hardware design allows me to do things that are seemingly impossible with LG... Like swapping the IMEI (don't ask).
Not everybody wants their user experience be of HTC or CM flavor. Please be respectful of that. Arguing against wishes of others accomplishes nothing.
I believe it's clear enough that One mini updates can AND WILL be ported to our phone, there is no point to discuss that further in the context of THIS thread.
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Modern operating systems are built on the principle of abstraction layers. The *nix kernels place devices as memory pointers on the filesystem tree (they are not files however in the literal sense), so you can swap out hardware and kernel but maintaining the same pointer names and your upper level application won't care at all, as a matter of fact it may not even know it runs on different hardware from before. The "ROM" that you download and flash onto your device is not monolithic, it's made up of components and the Linux kernel and Android OS, and the rest of the applications are separate parts. You should be able swap out the hardware specific layer, otherwise the design of the OS won't be worth a damn.
From user's perspective however "ROM" means something else, it means a specific set of features, be it pre-installed apps, eyecandy (like Sense or Touchwiz), or other miscellaneous bloatware. Basically it's a snapshot of an environment, which defines the user experience. HTC has their own tailored user experience which they ship with their phones like the One mini, with Sense, and probably some carrier restrictions (like custom restricted Wi-Fi tethering on AT&T). HTC first, because it's a product manufactured FOR Facebook, and marketed as A Facebook phone, has a different user experience from typical HTC products. Samsung has their own tailored user experience with their own apps and Touchwiz. Finally LG makes their own phones too, however the Nexus device they make for Google is a Google product, and Google tailors the user experience for their product. I like Google's vision of the smartphone user experience (I had a Nexus One before), and that's what I want to achieve with the current phone. True, that I could have bought a Nexus 4, however HTC's hardware design allows me to do things that are seemingly impossible with LG... Like swapping the IMEI (don't ask).
Not everybody wants their user experience be of HTC or CM flavor. Please be respectful of that. Arguing against wishes of others accomplishes nothing.
I believe it's clear enough that One mini updates can AND WILL be ported to our phone, there is no point to discuss that further in the context of THIS thread.
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1. SWAPPING IMEI IS ILLEGAL
2. You are correct, htc has some briliant hardware but the nexus 5 is a monster now haha
3. Go get the stock aosp android rom (4.2 or 4.3) then get a kernel for our phones, and flash it....see what you get and PLEASE let me know if it works cause i highly doubt it.
4. The reason why i duscussed the One Mini ports, is because if they are successfull, you can use them as a basis for for other ports like a nexus 4 port. and it doesnt have to be a nexus 4 port, it can be anything else, just at the moment, so far we have ZERO roms that boot, one bricked phone because of a blind build, and what you basicaly want is a blind build of a nexus 4 rom...so if youre willing to put your phone on the line, go right ahead.
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1. SWAPPING IMEI IS ILLEGAL.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216371
russian392 said:
1. SWAPPING IMEI IS ILLEGAL
2. You are correct, htc has some briliant hardware but the nexus 5 is a monster now haha
3. Go get the stock aosp android rom (4.2 or 4.3) then get a kernel for our phones, and flash it....see what you get and PLEASE let me know if it works cause i highly doubt it.
4. The reason why i duscussed the One Mini ports, is because if they are successfull, you can use them as a basis for for other ports like a nexus 4 port. and it doesnt have to be a nexus 4 port, it can be anything else, just at the moment, so far we have ZERO roms that boot, one bricked phone because of a blind build, and what you basicaly want is a blind build of a nexus 4 rom...so if youre willing to put your phone on the line, go right ahead.
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1. Depends, still, don't do it. I don't tell others to do it, and won't say how even if asked. But that's a feature I need hence why I choose HTC.
2. More than I need.
3. When I get around it. Fortunately it's possible to unbrick these if something goes terribly wrong (I have the JTAG pinout for this device). I am waiting on a new JTAG box from the team before I release the pinout to public... Unless of course anyone wants to donate a new box or badass logic probe or a very high speed digital oscilloscope.
4. Of course the One mini port will happen before any others because it will take the least time, however not all of us want to use it.