[Q] Should I Upgrade? - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello guys,
I have been using Nokia Lumia 800 almost a yr now.
but now thinking to switch on to Lumia 920.
here are some things I noticed about Lumia 800.
Loved it from the time i switched on to it.
Updated my firmware to 7.8,using it for more than a month or so, Love the Live Tile Resizing.
Things I Loved-
-Timeless Design and Feel for the phone,its been a yr now using lumia 800 but i dont feel for a second that the phone is a YR OLD.
-Nokia Support for LUMIA range has been incredible,Love the bluetooth sharing,ringtonemaker,camera extras,nokia maps,nokia city lens etc AWESOME APPs.
-Screen has been a Pleasure to view anywhere,be it Bright Sunny Day or in office.
-Build to last,this thing is as good as a TANK,has touched ground many a times from a noticeable height n still it is good as NEW.
Things Should be Better-
-Dont like the switching between apps,the app opens all over again,also not much apps work in the background.
-Whats App was awesome when i initially installed it and over a few updates it is not as good as it was before,i.e. theirs a Audio Bug which runs always,hope they fix this issue soon
-The Bluetooth Sharing app does not support video sending.
-Camera although is good but can get better with sharpness and detailing.
-Battery is ok,but drains alot wen i use whats app most of the time. Can improve,may be due to whats app audio bug.
-App catalog should be filled with the big guns soon,the thing i hate the most is Temple Run is their on all devices except windows phones
-Not able to tag friends in Check in or Status updates, Cant like a picture in too
The things I do on my 800 will also be doing the same on 920-
1.Pictures and Videos- I click alot of pictures and Videos, also have ticked the option to automatically link my camera uploads to SKYDRIVE.
2.Whats App-always connected to whats app mostly 12hrs out of 24 hrs
3.Use Nokia Lens and Nokia Drive a few times a week.
4.Facebooking around 30mins in a day ( not continuously )
5.Amazing Weather updates twice a day.
6.Manually checking mails 4times a day
7.1hr calling and heavy texting.
8.Playing Some Games once a week.
As of now I am Happy with Lumia 800 completes every task.
but as 920 is better in all aspects thought of upgrading.....
My doubt is should i go for 920 or should i wait for the 920 successor which mite be unvield in MWC.
It was Quoted some days ago that PureView has more to come,n i am fond of clicking pics my main focus is on camera also.

Windows Phone 8 has some new features that I like vs WP7.x but there is also not much off a diffrence in some areas for exsample you still can't use custom MMS\SMS or email alert tones. If you happen to have a WP7.x phone that is an unlocked or ROM OS, just stick with it because you can't load any custom software on it and it the same with pre-installed color tiles and the boring black and white background options.

Well, I just upgraded my titan to the 8x. Was planning to stick with the titan for another year but was offered the 8x on 12 month contract with unlimited everything for 38 quid pm. Should be arriving in 3 days. Will till be taking the titan with me because love the big screen. Hopefully w8 dont disappoint me.

If you are happy with the 800 then don't upgrade just yet, I impatiently upgraded to a Lumia 820 then sold it as it was not much better than my Titan or wifes Lumia 900, There isn't a great deal of difference within the OS for what you are using it for,
Hopefully a bit further down the line things will get better with Wp8 and you will have a few more options with handsets and have the newer pureview Aluminium Lumias to ogle over

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Nokia N73 or Sony Ericsson K810i?

Hey everyone, i'm upgrading now and am torn between getting the N73 or the K810 (which is coming out next month).
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip1&zone=pp&pid=10804
http://www.nokia.co.uk/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_119601
I am downgrading to a non-Windows phone because the Wizard I have isn't very practical and isn't a hero in all situations...of course I intend to continue developing it as there really is nothing like Windows CE.
The N73 has better video but it's very common. It's a Nokia, and I think they're quite boring to use. The camera is brilliant, but I hear the shutter speed is slow compared to Ericssons.
The K810 looks awesome but has stone age video (176x144). I like Ericssons, they're fun, and very usable.
Please anyone with any knowledge atall leave any comments or thoughts.
I just got myself a K800i from eBay to go with my array of Windows Mobile phones. One of the first thing I did was flash the K810i firmware to it (although that did nothing to help with the big lump on the back of the phone, which the K810i will not suffer from!)
I was just after a cheap phone with the best camera available, purely to use on a stag-do I'm going on soon. As my limit was £100 (in case I lose/break the thing) my choice was between the Sony and the Nokia too.
I went for the Sony, largely because it has a *proper* flash which will come in handy in low-lit bars and clubs, but I also have an irrational dislike of Nokia's, and I've owned Symbian S60 devices in the past which, looking back, I wasn't thrilled with (Although I loved my old Siemens SX1 at the time).
A good friend of mine has an N73, and in the interest of balance, I will say (grudgingly) that having had a play around with it, it's one of the nicest Nokia's I've seen for a long time. Very good quality pictures, and the latest S60 is better than it ever has been. Only the N95 is better, but that costs a fortune at the moment!
Having used my K800i for just over a week (to get used to it before my drunken trip) I'm seriously considering keeping it as my main phone, at least for the forseeable future. The camera is truly brilliant, even in the absolute pitch black, it has an RSS reader which I use heavily, a capable media player and FM radio, a QVGA web-browser which is at least as good as Mobile IE on a Windows Smartphone, and a massive range of QVGA Java games available. The main thing though, is how insanely usable I'm finding it. Even the N73 doesn't beat the K800i for ease of use.
I have never used video recording on a mobile for anything except MMS, so although Qcif is a bit off-putting at first, it really makes no difference to me. If you're going to be using it for viewing on your PC, then I would say that the general video quality on the K800i comes out about as well as my Universal or my Hermes, despite the lower resolution, mainly because the framerate is more consistent, and the colours/image is sharper to begin with. The N73 is obviously superior for video though.
The main limitation of the K800i for me, is the rather basic e-mail. On my main e-mail account, "push" IMAP4 actually delivers my e-mails to my K800i before "push" Exchange does to my WM5 device (which I'm baffled by). However, you can't view .doc .xls .ppt .pdf attachments on the Sony. You can download and forward them on, but you can't open them.
Also, my music collection is in .ogg format, which the Sony can't handle. It's a shame, because I'm now having to rip things to mp3 for the plane trip.
So basically, if you need flexibility then the N73 is the one to go for. It has better video, and a better e-mail client, plus you can add on extra software features as you go along 'cause it's a Symbian phone.
Have a play around with a K800i - the K810i really is virtually identical, so you'll get a very good idea for yourself of what it will and wont be able to do, but I'd say if you want a more stylish, and extremely usable phone for daily use - with a slightly better camera - then you should go for the Sony.
hi, dont talk about SE or nokias even in off topic, they r low class,
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hey, thanks sub69, that post was very helpful! i decided upon the K810 and i haven't looked back. i had a play with an N73 and i found it very slow and quite clumsy.
thanks again
Saaduk said:
hi, dont talk about SE or nokias even in off topic, they r low class,
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Not low class atall. I'm talking about Nokia and Sony Ericsson's flagship mobiles, not a Motorola V3 or Nokia 3310.
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[Q] Win 8 Phone Questions

Just got a Nokia 1020, have been using a Samsung Focus for over 3 years. This is my first Win 8 experience.
1. On my Focus, I had tiles for all 4 of my Sons, and it populated their pictures from their Facebook account. I see no such thing in Win 8.
2. Pictures. If I held down on a Pic in WP7, one of the options was to post it on FB. No sure option on WP8. Not even in Sharing.
I know MS invested a fair amount of $$$ in FB and thats why WP7 had so much FB integration. Did that go away in WP8?
Loving the rest of the phone, the Camera is amazing, the speed it installs apps is light speed compared to the Focus. Screen is amazing as well. Very impressed with Nokia overall both in hardware and software.
EDIT...never mind. Took some looking into some more settings, got it all working now.

Should I adopt WP for work?

Hello everyone,
I come to your forum with several questions regarding my work phone, which is due to an upgrade in a few weeks...
So, a little background...I adopted Android from it's release and am savvy to smartphones and their operating systems. Nonetheless I have always used a Blackberry for work purposes, due mainly to exceedingly good battery life and call quality.
I would appreciate your feedback on WP and it's handsets specifically.
e.g.
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
Does WP offer apps which equate to:
-Google Maps
-Google Search
-Chrome
-LinkedIn
How is the WP OS on maximising battery life?
The company uses Office 365 which I know integrates excellently with WP, hence the interest. So I doubt there would be any issues with contacts, mail, calendar or reading/editing Office documents?
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
What other apps are great for business use on WP?
Most important of all, how is the keyboard? My Blackberry Curve 9320 is exceptional for e-mails, and likewise Android with SwiftKey is brilliant.
Can you install another keyboard?
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have official WP apps?
I'm sure I have more questions...but I'll leave it there.
I appreciate any and all help from the community.
Hey bertles86, welcome on board! I have just switched to Lumia 925 from Blackberry Bold 9900, same reason as yours and it's a company mobile...
Regarding your concern...
* Call quality, it's Nokia made. So aside from OS which shouldn't has any affection to its state of the art technology.... but I guess it depends on handset.
* Lumia would be your only choice for sure, especially after MS bought over.
* 920 & 925, same CPU & ram (1G), 920 with 32GB, 925 with 16GB, and 920 is NFC ready, 925 needs an extra cover for it. OS is slightly updater which fixed some bugs from 920. And weights a whole lot different! 1020, same CPU with 2G ram, and 41MP camera.
* Apps
-Here Maps (best maps app other than Google Maps)
-Google Search, has WP version
-Unfortunately, only has IE...
-Linkedin, has WP version
* battery life is awesome, I have been using it for past 2 weeks with heavy daily usage, no problem at all
* No problem
* Can handle both ZIP & PDF
* Nothing much...
* Keyboard is not bad, but can't compare to any BB at all...
Hope it helps...
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903idcop said:
Hey bertles86, welcome on board! I have just switched to Lumia 925 from Blackberry Bold 9900, same reason as yours and it's a company mobile...
Regarding your concern...
* Call quality, it's Nokia made. So aside from OS which shouldn't has any affection to its state of the art technology.... but I guess it depends on handset.
* Lumia would be your only choice for sure, especially after MS bought over.
* 920 & 925, same CPU & ram (1G), 920 with 32GB, 925 with 16GB, and 920 is NFC ready, 925 needs an extra cover for it. OS is slightly updater which fixed some bugs from 920. And weights a whole lot different! 1020, same CPU with 2G ram, and 41MP camera.
* Apps
-Here Maps (best maps app other than Google Maps)
-Google Search, has WP version
-Unfortunately, only has IE...
-Linkedin, has WP version
* battery life is awesome, I have been using it for past 2 weeks with heavy daily usage, no problem at all
* No problem
* Can handle both ZIP & PDF
* Nothing much...
* Keyboard is not bad, but can't compare to any BB at all...
Hope it helps...
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That's great thanks soo much! I think I'll consider the Lumia 925 then!
Maxthon has released its browser for Windows Phone and besides UC Browser and several other ones you have alternative to Internet Explorer
903idcop said:
* 920 & 925, same CPU & ram (1G), 920 with 32GB, 925 with 16GB, and 920 is NFC ready, 925 needs an extra cover for it. OS is slightly updater which fixed some bugs from 920. And weights a whole lot different! 1020, same CPU with 2G ram, and 41MP camera.
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Both the 920 and 925 are NFC ready out of the box, the only thing the 925 needs a special cover for, and doesn't have it integrated like the 920 is the Qi Wireless Charging. The 920 weighs 185 g (6.53 oz), meanwhile the 925 weighs 139 g (4.90 oz). The 920 sports an IPS LCD display, while the 925 has an AMOLED display (way better in sunlight and has darker blacks). The 920 is older and has a matte plastic finish, the 925 looks and feels more premium with it's metal casing on the side.
Hope this helped
unfortunately you can't install any custom keyboard layout for now, since MS does't support that. i hope they will bring it in 8.1 update next year. and don't hope amazing swiftkey will be landed in WP this year.
i don't know here maps service in your country. but in my country, google maps has better detail than here maps.
battery life is good compared to android in my opinion.
bertles86 said:
Hello everyone,
I come to your forum with several questions regarding my work phone, which is due to an upgrade in a few weeks...
So, a little background...I adopted Android from it's release and am savvy to smartphones and their operating systems. Nonetheless I have always used a Blackberry for work purposes, due mainly to exceedingly good battery life and call quality.
I would appreciate your feedback on WP and it's handsets specifically.
e.g.
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
Does WP offer apps which equate to:
-Google Maps
-Google Search
-Chrome
-LinkedIn
How is the WP OS on maximising battery life?
The company uses Office 365 which I know integrates excellently with WP, hence the interest. So I doubt there would be any issues with contacts, mail, calendar or reading/editing Office documents?
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
What other apps are great for business use on WP?
Most important of all, how is the keyboard? My Blackberry Curve 9320 is exceptional for e-mails, and likewise Android with SwiftKey is brilliant.
Can you install another keyboard?
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have official WP apps?
I'm sure I have more questions...but I'll leave it there.
I appreciate any and all help from the community.
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I don't know where you live, but the 928 is a great device on Verizon.
callquality-awesome, I've had planes fly over and a person incall not hear it at all.
Phone choice- ...
Not much to say here. Nokia makes physically the best phone to hold and use. HTC manufactures them to have their foot in the door with MS. The same could be
said
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Also, enterprise-wise, Microsoft will release Enterprise Feature Pack for Windows Phone:
Link
But it is the Enterprise Feature Pack that has me more interested. This update is due in the first half of 2014 and will add the following features to Windows Phone 8:
S/MIME to sign and encrypt email
Access to corporate resources behind the firewall with app aware, auto-triggered VPN
Enterprise Wi-Fi support with EAP-TLS
Enhanced MDM policies to lock down functionality on the phone for more enterprise control, in addition to richer application management such as allowing or denying installation of certain apps
Certificate management to enroll, update, and revoke certificates for user authentication
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Here is some more detail from my perspective:
Is the call quality on WP generally very good, or does it depend upon the handset?
The phone OS doesn’t have much affect on call quality – that depends mainly on your network, the handset, and your location. That being said, Nokia has a reputation for excellent phone radios and that is carried out in their top Lumias. The budget Lumias (520, 620) don’t come up to that standard, but after all, they are low-cost alternatives. HTC’s main entry, the 8X also has a reputation for excellent call quality.
If I were to adopt WP, is Lumia the way to go?
Nokia is the dominant player, almost by default. HTC has one good Windows Phone (8X) that came out a year ago. There is a Samsung phone as well.
What is the difference between a Lumia 920, 925 and 1020? (They seem very similar!)
They are all very similar with usually one differentiator that sets each apart.
920 – Last year’s top-of-the-line; it’s a great phone with a terrific camera – optical image stabilization is built in for better low-light shooting. However it is quite thick and heavy. On the other hand, since it is a year old it can be found at half its original price which makes it a good value.
925 – This year’s update to the 920. It’s the same phone for all practical purposes BUT it’s much thinner and lighter (which was the biggest complaint against the 920).
1020 – This is like taking the 925 and adding in the most awesome camera ever put into a phone (41 megapixels). It adds a little bulk, (but it’s still much less mass than the 920). If the camera component is important to you, then this should be on your list. If not, the camera on the 920 or 925 is already many times better than what you are already using, so save some money or weight and forgo the 1020.
Apps
Maps - Nokia’s HERE maps and HERE Drive (navigation) are terrific and free.
Search – Bing, of course. Also Google Search is available in the Windows Phone Store.
Browser – Internet Explorer works very well. Up until recently it was also your only choice. Now there are others like UC Browser and Nokia’s Express (server cached) browser.
LinkedIn – LinkedIn (That was easy.)
How is the WP OS on maximizing battery life?
As a whole, WP does well on battery life because it keeps the hardware down to a minimum. So you aren’t running a Ferrari when all you need is a Mini, so to speak. However it also comes down to the specific handset and apps.
Business Software
Excellent implementations of Office Web Applications, Lync 2013, Yammer, Skydrive Pro, OneNote, and Skype.
Can WP handle zips and PDFs too?
I don’t know about archives, but Adobe Reader is usually the first app I install on a phone.
Most important of all, how is the keyboard?
You realize that this will be a big jump from a BB 9320 – there hasn’t been a Windows Phone with a physical keyboard since the Dell Venue Pro in 2011. As for the virtual keyboard – there are no choices other than the built in keyboard. Most find it very responsive and easy to type on. However, it does have its faults. There is no way to type numbers or symbols from the main keyboard; you must toggle to the secondary numeric keyboard.
Are there any recommended high quality slim black leather cases for the Lumia range to protect the screen? I like book flip cases mainly.
There are many for the upper-range Nokia phones – at all price ranges. There is less selection in nice leather cases for the budget phones.
Which UK newspapers/business magazines (Economist? Telegraph?) have official WP apps?
You can go to the Windows Phone store on the web and look around:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store
If you have serious business contacts and data and want to sync with a pc there is no active sync. You have to upload all personal data to the microsoft cloud first, i find this outragious.
k33 said:
If you have serious business contacts and data and want to sync with a pc there is no active sync. You have to upload all personal data to the microsoft cloud first, i find this outragious.
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'Serious business contacts' locked down to 1 PC?
I think it's better to have multiple copies of important contacts. =)
And yes, in terms of protocol, ActiveSync is supported.
Yuriy.Samorodov said:
'Serious business contacts' locked down to 1 PC...
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Most businesses abandoned PC sync 15 years ago. Syncing contacts, calendar, and email between an Exchange server and a mobile device over the air gave every mobile device Blackberry-like powers.
Cloud sync brought that same ease-of-use to consumers, whether they use Google, Microsoft, or Yahoo (to name a few). You have specific reasons to hang on to the 1990's computer sync method. But most business and consumer users today couldn't imagine why they should have to run a separate program on their computer just to keep their contacts, etc., up-to-date.
I wanted to give WP a try but they still don't support enterprise wifi with EAP-TLS support. This means no one can log into the work wifi network. Massive fail!
This is 2+ years after they knew about it:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281269
1+ years since they gave the completely useless and non-committal "at some point" response:
http://www.wpcentral.com/wi-fi-eap-tls-support-coming-windows-phone-some-point
And still potentially 7 months before we finally see it (not barring delays):
http://blogs.windows.com/windows_ph...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I mean seriously? Enterprise wifi is not a feature, its a bare bones core requirement that iOS and android have had since day 1.
And they want business users to switch to them and take them seriously...yeah right.
Some enterprise WiFi encryption/authentication is already supported, and I'm skeptical of your claim that both iOS and Android shipped with full support from day one, but I agree that EAP-TLS specifically is overdue. We shall see how long it takes them... at least once it's done, it should be possible to get it quickly.
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Some enterprise WiFi encryption/authentication is already supported, and I'm skeptical of your claim that both iOS and Android shipped with full support from day one, but I agree that EAP-TLS specifically is overdue. We shall see how long it takes them... at least once it's done, it should be possible to get it quickly.
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I've been on android since HTC dream so that's about 3 years and yes it worked back then...
Their attitude towards adding this core requirement is just horrendous - they expected people to just wait for 3 years while they fixed it?
Just like how they will fix the volume coupling? I always laugh at the poor Windows phone users listening to music in the library and their phone starts ringing and vibrating like mad cos they didn't have the option of separate music and system volume controls.
I'm sorry but it's just so hard to take wp seriously when so many basic fundamental flaws are ignored and the poor users are expected to just deal with it.
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liqn7 said:
I've been on android since HTC dream so that's about 3 years and yes it worked back then...
Their attitude towards adding this core requirement is just horrendous - they expected people to just wait for 3 years while they fixed it?
Just like how they will fix the volume coupling? I always laugh at the poor Windows phone users listening to music in the library and their phone starts ringing and vibrating like mad cos they didn't have the option of separate music and system volume controls.
I'm sorry but it's just so hard to take wp seriously when so many basic fundamental flaws are ignored and the poor users are expected to just deal with it.
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not wanting to nit pick but you are saying you can hear it ringing in a library when someone is also listening to music on it?
Either you have super good hearing or the library rules are different to any other ive been in. The phone rings at the same volume as the music so if you didn't have ear phones in, it would be no worse than music on, if you did have some ear phones on then you wouldn't know any difference... vibrate can be turned off.
Yes it might be useful to have, but in all the years have had a WP device now, it doesn't cross my mind at all its not there...
just saying
Do not buy Nokia Lumia 920 and you will be fine
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Do not buy Nokia Lumia 920 and you will be fine
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why is that?
My 920 has been working great, did you unluckily get a defective model at some point?

[Q] I have a dilema, the 930 or 1020

I can't seem to be able to choose between the Nokia 930 & 1020.
Music is important to me, as is web browsing, YouTube etc but I also want it to have a good camera.
I currently own the Samsung Note 3 so it has to be an upgrade (camera wise) to what I already have. There isn't much point if I am not going to notice the difference. All my photo's go onto my 27" mac screen, 48" TV screen and my PC so quality and clarity in photo's is a must.
Can you in the know help please? I haven't had a Windows phone before.
Grateful thanks Simon
Both are good
simonfoy said:
I can't seem to be able to choose between the Nokia 930 & 1020.
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Well, if you own a Note 3, then I would suggest a Lumia 1520 because of the large screen, and also because the camera features are the same of 930 and closely to what you would get with 1020. Of course that 1020 has some few greater features about its camera, the resolution is the first and most important of them. But I think that 20Mpx offered by 930 or 1520 is enough for ordinary use. The greatest thing about Lumia cameras is the possibility to adjust the shutter, which would give you excelent image results during night or low light. Yeah, a little bit boring and difficult to keep the camera static in hands when you are in a hurry, but 1 second or 2.5 seconds is enough to do the job and it's not that much time. Anyway, if you don't want to work with the shutter, you have other options like ISO or Brightness, which helps a lot too.
I have a 1520, and I'm incredibly satisfied with it. It is the last high end Windows Phone under Nokia trademark, and will be the best for a long time. Even knowing that right now there are phones with better hardwares (like G3, Z3, Note 4 or S6), the 1520 (like 930 or 1020) has more than enough for its Windows OS, which is light, fluid and stable. Above all, it is a very smart system that disables what you are not using and keeps only the necessary alive, so the battery life is very satisfying and the memory keeps most of it free for the apps you are actually using at the moment.
I love Android, but Windows were a big surprise for me and I had no problems migrating from one to another. But the biggest problem is the app store. It is still very bad. No way to compare the quality of Instagram or Facebook apps between Android and Windows. Windows versions seems like preview or test versions, and a lot of apps that are famous between Android or iOS users you will not find at Windows Store. For playing games, it is great... and the experience can be better if you have an XBox like for those ones who have Z3 and Playstation.
I'm not an app eater anymore, so... apps don't make a huge difference for me. If you feel the same, then a Windows Phone is an excelent choice. If I had to choose between 930 and 1020, then 1020 would be. I don't like the design of the 930, its aluminum construction makes it thicker and heavier than others. But I recomend 1520, also because after Lumia Camera update, it can now make 4k movies at 30fps.
thanks so much for the detailed reply. Greatly appreciated x
if web browsing is important to you, the 930 has a better cpu so you'll get faster web rendering
There is also audio quality, which is FANTASTIC , i truly didn't believed my ears when i watched some video from a concert, the audio was absolutely stunning, from highs to lows all was there, no more filtering and all that what others do, believe me, you'll be shocked when you'll hear it.
Here the main differences are that 1020 records audio in mono( but the quality is also great), but if you want a really good experience i'd take the 930 or 1520 as they record in stereo with directional microphones.
Also you'll get the latest features, such as fast camera start and fast 4k video capture if you buy the 930/1520, due to much improved hardware.
So to say if to compare 1020 with 930/1520, then the win of 1020 is only at raw camera photo capabilities, as video, photo to photo time, and all other features are better on the other 2 phones, oh...there is also possible to shoot in RAW so that's also some unique feature not available elsewhere.
Also due to better specs the OS is much quicker and load times of heavy apps/games are a lot better.
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There is also audio quality, which is FANTASTIC...
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Yes. Truly fantastic. It's amazing how great is its audio recording. Even when you send voice messages thru Whatsapp the quality difference is noticed when compared to other voice messages sent by friends who have different phones. It records whispers whitout being necessary to short the distance between the phone and your mouth. Its recording device is impressive.
The bad thing is that you can't say the same thing about it's speakers. 1520 has a mono speaker which users can easily cover it with their hand or fingers and if they do that the sound almost disappear. It's powerful anyway when nothing blocks it, but could be better if Windows provided a better sound application with more detailed features than just an equalizer. That is something I miss with Android and its Viper4Android, which is awesome.

Worth buying for 250€/300$

Hi.
I've got an offer to buy a 1 month old Nokia 8 for 250 euro/300 dollars.
I've been looking at the Nokia 7 plus which is about 390 euro/460 dollar in my country.
I've got a Iphone 7 as it is, but i really wanna go back to Android now that i finally have the option and my all time favorite phone is Nexus 1, so i want so close to stock android as possible.
The biggest fear i've got is the camera. I don't want anything worse then i got today. Would you say it's worse/same/better?
Which one would you buy if you had the chance?
Thanks in advance!
Look at the specs. You will see the Nokia 8 much better than 7th.
NOKIA 8 is one of the most underrated telefon, SD 835 and 250 € it's a great deal.
Camera is bad compared to any brand flagship from past 5 years
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Camera is bad compared to any brand flagship from past 5 years
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It's the software that is crap. With Google Camera apk you get fabulous pictures.
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You can replace it with Google camera app and you get premium feeling.
Depends on what you want the phone for... For me I like to try new new new, Android never my main phone, just a playground, I want to try AOSP, I like to try latest Android... My main phone is iPhone.
At the moment Nokia is not keeping up to their promise, they're busy with launching more models and Nokia 8 is not getting their May Security Patch yet, and it's not Project Treble... Camera also has no Pro Manual mode yet.
So if you want a long lasting software patching phone I suppose any of their new Android One is better...
2 days ago I was so tempted to sell off my 6 months old Nokia 8 to replace with Mi Mix 2s because of Android P beta preview. Even my Mi 5 running LineAge OS has May Security Patch!
Updated: just tried out Google camera (as others suggested) on Nokia 8, it crash my phone when I turn on Motion option, and HDR set to High quality isn't great, mainly just over exposed compared to Medium (Default).
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There is many google cameras from different devs , you need to choose one thats suits you better
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You can replace it with Google camera app and you get premium feeling.
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Premium feel is when the camera works fluently without mods. Even with mods the camera is mediocre and can't compete with any flagships past few years.
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Premium feel is when the camera works fluently without mods. Even with mods the camera is mediocre and can't compete with any flagships past few years.
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You're either a hater or you haven't held a Nokia 8 in your hands that uses Google Camera.
The results I get with this thing are better than most of the recent flagships and almost matches the images you can get on a Pixel 2.
Pls refrain from posting bull$h!t and confusing the OP. Thx.
I'm neither of what you accuse. I'm just not giving false hope for OP coming from iPhone 7 that Nokia 8 camera is on par with competition.
https://www.dxomark.com/nokia-8-review-nokias-return-high-end-segment/
You can get a little better results with mods of course, but it won't fix the limitations of that Sony sensor. It's still slow and mediocre in low light / indoors.
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I'm neither of what you accuse. I'm just not giving false hope for OP coming from iPhone 7 that Nokia 8 camera is on par with competition.
https://www.dxomark.com/nokia-8-review-nokias-return-high-end-segment/
You can get a little better results with mods of course, but it won't fix the limitations of that Sony sensor. It's still slow and mediocre in low light / indoors.
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The difference is day and night. It's not "a little better". Low light as well - drastically different than the default camera app processing.
Pls end your nonsense. It's HMD's fault that they screwed up the camera app. But this is a huge and significant mod that breathes new life into this phone's camera capabilities.
The camera really is bad , i have the nokia 8 and i agree
But also agree that with google camera it works a thousand times better and it has no problem matching the quality of the photos of iphone 7
Regarding to everything else , nokia 8 is better in everything , snapdragon 835 is just fabulous , ram management is also good
Batttery life , power and everything else is close to the iphone 7 , if you want to go back to android , sell iph7 , win big money and buy nokia 8 , is the best choice
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The difference is day and night. It's not "a little better". Low light as well - drastically different than the default camera app processing.
Pls end your nonsense. It's HMD's fault that they screwed up the camera app. But this is a huge and significant mod that breathes new life into this phone's camera capabilities.
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Installing another manufacturer's algorithms won't fix the slow shutter speed and low light capabilities of the 1.12 um sensor.
Every android phone that i've tried has some pluses and minuses in google camera app mods. Usually low light images are better but that's it, then you might experience glare in day shots or something else.. oh and you lose all the gimmicks that the oem has put on its software/hardware (nokia 8 dual lens for example and ozo sound in video).
So it's a hit or miss.. Especially when there are no apks that are optimized for nokia 8.
And believe me, i would love to be wrong in this, but in this current state the camera is mediocre.. with or without mods. I hope nokia would use that second lens to improve low light..
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Installing another manufacturer's algorithms won't fix the slow shutter speed and low light capabilities of the 1.12 um sensor.
Every android phone that i've tried has some pluses and minuses in google camera app mods. Usually low light images are better but that's it, then you might experience glare in day shots or something else.. oh and you lose all the gimmicks that the oem has put on its software/hardware (nokia 8 dual lens for example and ozo sound in video).
So it's a hit or miss.. Especially when there are no apks that are optimized for nokia 8.
And believe me, i would love to be wrong in this, but in this current state the camera is mediocre.. with or without mods. I hope nokia would use that second lens to improve low light..
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Agree, I spend more money (on non Chinese brands) because of Nokia's quality, it's losing the purpose of pay a premium for Zeiss Lens and not able to benefit the Dual or PIP features in the stock app. The lens (and it's features) and USB 3 was the only reason Nokia worth the premium for, else it is just a Mi 6.
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Is there a reason why there aren't any custom ROMs here for Nokia devices?
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Is there a reason why there aren't any custom ROMs here for Nokia devices?
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I think the bootloader can't be unlocked yet.
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Thing is, the need for unlocking of bootloader needs to be pushed to the OEM. Something like filing a petition or something. So that we can show the responsible person..

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