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what are the Z variations and Clove preorder

Hi I know some body posted a white paper some where before that shows the difference between different variations of the Z. Can someone show me what are the difference as the search's been down for past 2 hours for me.
I am also planning to pre-order it from Clove, do we know what variation they'll be offer already? Anyone from the US planning to import it and use it with AT&T?
Much appreciated.

dliao said:
Hi I know some body posted a white paper some where before that shows the difference between different variations of the Z. Can someone show me what are the difference as the search's been down for past 2 hours for me.
I am also planning to pre-order it from Clove, do we know what variation they'll be offer already? Anyone from the US planning to import it and use it with AT&T?
Much appreciated.
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they have the c6603, the 3g won't properly. It has the 850 frequency but it is missing the 1900 frequency radio. i recommend that you get c6602 or wait for the c6606, the c6602 is the hspa+ model and the c6606 will be lte enabled that supports at&t lte and 3g.

Gotcha, thank you!

AwesomeAHlee said:
they have the c6603, the 3g won't properly. It has the 850 frequency but it is missing the 1900 frequency radio. i recommend that you get c6602 or wait for the c6606, the c6602 is the hspa+ model and the c6606 will be lte enabled that supports at&t lte and 3g.
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if I want the free speakers from the clove pre-order, can I still use the c6603 on ATT with HSPA+? I don't really need LTE.
will LTE-enabled devices like the c6603 have less battery even if i'm not using the LTE?

theindievisual said:
if I want the free speakers from the clove pre-order, can I still use the c6603 on ATT with HSPA+? I don't really need LTE.
will LTE-enabled devices like the c6603 have less battery even if i'm not using the LTE?
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it'll work in some places
use this map to find out whether or not it will work where you live.
(i don't know how accurate the information on the map is) (http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml)

Do you think, I will be able to use the US LTE version of the Z in Germany? If not, which US version will work in Germany?
I'm planning to buy it in the US since I have to travel a lot and will be 'round the globe for the next few years. Is the Dockingstation usable with 110V and 230V or do I have to use a power transformator?
Thanks so far.
I know, this is my first post, it wont be the last

matth85 said:
I'm planning to buy it in the US since I have to travel a lot and will be 'round the globe for the next few years. Is the Dockingstation usable with 110V and 230V or do I have to use a power transformator?
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There is no power supply in the dock - you will have to connect an external.

Hi!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
So I guess the OEM power supply will be Europe-compatible?

dliao said:
Hi I know some body posted a white paper some where before that shows the difference between different variations of the Z. Can someone show me what are the difference as the search's been down for past 2 hours for me.
I am also planning to pre-order it from Clove, do we know what variation they'll be offer already? Anyone from the US planning to import it and use it with AT&T?
Much appreciated.
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I am thinking on importing one from Clove to the US. I live in North Carolina and ATT recently acquired Alltlel and will have more 850Mhz coverage on the ast coast
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T...n-getting-more-coverage-in-six-states_id38982
If Sony doesnt have any news on C6606 model tomorrow during MWC im going to get C6603 model deal from clove since its the best and cheapest offer available. Expansys USA will carry C6602 model but its a bit overpriced around $770 and it doesn't come with any freebies

kbadone said:
I am thinking on importing one from Clove to the US. I live in North Carolina and ATT recently acquired Alltlel and will have more 850Mhz coverage on the ast coast
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T...n-getting-more-coverage-in-six-states_id38982
If Sony doesnt have any news on C6606 model tomorrow during MWC im going to get C6603 model deal from clove since its the best and cheapest offer available. Expansys USA will carry C6602 model but its a bit overpriced around $770 and it doesn't come with any freebies
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Do you have a link?

It'll be a while before the C6602 and C6606 hit the stores, they're not certified yet (PTCRB), and that usually happens at least a few weeks before the release.

How about for the T mobile U.S?

cooltranier13px said:
Do you have a link?
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Looks like Expansys updated the specs page, seems they are going to carry C6603 model instead
Networks - GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900; HSDPA: 850 / 900 / 2100; LTE: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-black-unlocked-241314/
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Ambroos said:
It'll be a while before the C6602 and C6606 hit the stores, they're not certified yet (PTCRB), and that usually happens at least a few weeks before the release.
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If you live in the Gulf region, ex. Dubai, C6602 will be launched on Feb 28, they are taking pre-orders at Sony retails such as Jumbo Electronics.

[Q] Is the htc one a world phone?

Idk if I'm using the term right, but I'm with t mobile and I know that they will offer the htc one. But that's rumored to be towards the end of march. But appearntly Europe will be getting it the first of march. So my question is: will all carriers be selling the same EXACT phone? Meaning can I get a euro version when it comes out and use it on t mobile, and still get 2g,3G,and 4g (hspa+,LTE) ? I'm very anxious to get a new phone. I'm down to the htc one and the xperia z.

Yeah it's a world phone, it won't be in the market before 15th march. As clove.co.uk states that. IMO Better to get from your carrier if you don't want to face any issues with network. But if you want fast updates, it's good to purchase from uk.
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Yes for 2g and 3g, not really for LTE in selected countries... And then I am certain that the LTE band will be tied down to that network provider. I will be amazed if this is not the case because HTC always does this, with exception of the HTC J-Butterfly (only in Japan), the reason behind this is that Japan law requires the phones to have world network support. The Sony XZ defninately covers world support on 2g,3g & 4g

We are in the same boat!
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Idk if I'm using the term right, but I'm with t mobile and I know that they will offer the htc one. But that's rumored to be towards the end of march. But appearntly Europe will be getting it the first of march. So my question is: will all carriers be selling the same EXACT phone? Meaning can I get a euro version when it comes out and use it on t mobile, and still get 2g,3G,and 4g (hspa+,LTE) ? I'm very anxious to get a new phone. I'm down to the htc one and the xperia z.
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We are in the same boat. I am with Tmobile and have Galaxy S3, but as soon as I saw the leaked image of HTC One, I was instantly fell in love with it and I am surely glad they kept the design. It is the kind of design and material I wanted for a long time. Anyway, cut to the point, I pre-ordered from Clove.co.uk and expansys-usa.com. Whichever can ship it first will have my money. The reason I pre-order instead of waiting is it looks like it will be cheaper this way since I am buying off-contract. Tmobile's phone usually have much higher price than other carriers like ATT. Of course you can buy att one and unlock it, but it is illegal in USA now so that complicates things. Only thing I am worrying about is the compatibility with Tmobile's upcoming LTE network. Since I am living in Houston, TX, it is only logical to think Tmobile's next LTE market will be somewhere in TX if not Houston. But, I saw their LTE band is not the one supported by HTC One. (I saw this in one of forum here. Don't have the link) Tmobile maybe make LTE version of this phone like galaxy note 2, but then that will now complicates the battery life. So I am not sure if I want to have LTE version of HTC One when the battery is not user replaceable. Besides I am more than content with current Tmobile's data speed as HSPA+ in houston area. So my point is if you are sure you will get this phone, pre-order seems the fastest one so far. I picked silver one BTW.

It might sound lazy but I'm actually really confused about the bands for the different networks in my country. I want to get an HTC One but I'm not sure if I will have 3g on my company "VTR", this company is from Chile in South America and I would be really thankful if anyone can give me a hand on this:
The website of the company is: http://www.vtr.com
Please, give me a hand on this as I'm really confused and I have been searching a lot to get more information. This is what I've found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
VTR is at the number IV AWS 1700
Also I found this:
http://www.telecompaper.com/news/vtr-nextel-win-3g-licences-in-chile--690358
VTR, Nextel win 3G licences in Chile
Chile's telecommunications regulator Subtel has granted mobile operators VTR and Nextel spectrum for provision of 3G services. The tender covered three blocks of 30 MHz in the 1700/2100 MHz frequency band. Nextel won two out of three blocks of spectrum up in the 1700/2100MHz frequency bands, while VTR won the remaining block. Nextel's total offer for spectrum blocks B and C reached USD 14.7 million, while VTR won block A with an offer of USD 3.02 million. The new licences aim to boost competition on the Chilean mobile telephony market, currently divided among Entel PCS, Movistar and Claro. The Chilean telecoms market currently reaches 15 million customers. According to Rene Cortazar, minister of transport and communications, the two licence winners have a maximum of one year – that is by the second half of 2010 – to complete their 3G networks deployment across the country.
VTR 3g frecuencies: 1700/2100
I currently have an HTC Desire HD, however, I'm unable to use 3g with my device. Please help me confirm that the ONE will work on this network, else, I will have to change my network
A little bit more information can be found here:
http://www.apecdoc.org/site/chile/2009/06/11/vtr-sets-up-vtr-movil-to-bid-for-3g-licence-chile/
Thank you very much for all your help

The phone doesn't have support for the 1700 band, but will work on the 2100 band offered by your provider. The biggest problem you face is what is the difference between bands for VTS, typically network providers will offer a faster network and or more coverage on one of their bands. If in Chile this is the 2100 band you are away laughing.
Just had a look at the specs of your HTC Desire HD and the news is bad.The new HTC one will the same as your previous phone on that network.
I don't understand what you are saying about your phone not on 3G, the 2100Mhz network is 3G, however it would seem that your provider is offering it's premium higher speed services on 1700Mhz.
I suggest you go to www.gsmarena.com then search for brands of phones that have 1700Mhz radios. So got to say HTC, and under bands select 1700 then filter, you will find only 13.
After checking this, scrub the above and only use it as a super rough guide. Because it states the Sony XZ as 1700Mhz, but no Sony website claims this that I can see.

danw_oz said:
The phone doesn't have support for the 1700 band, but will work on the 2100 band offered by your provider. The biggest problem you face is what is the difference between bands for VTS, typically network providers will offer a faster network and or more coverage on one of their bands. If in Chile this is the 2100 band you are away laughing.
Just had a look at the specs of your HTC Desire HD and the news is bad.The new HTC one will the same as your previous phone on that network.
I don't understand what you are saying about your phone not on 3G, the 2100Mhz network is 3G, however it would seem that your provider is offering it's premium higher speed services on 1700Mhz.
I suggest you go to www.gsmarena.com then search for brands of phones that have 1700Mhz radios. So got to say HTC, and under bands select 1700 then filter, you will find only 13.
After checking this, scrub the above and only use it as a super rough guide. Because it states the Sony XZ as 1700Mhz, but no Sony website claims this that I can see.
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Thanks a lot, I hope the phone gets 3g, however, I know that Entel (another company in my country) will offer the HTC One on the third or fourth trimester of this year and it might allow LTE connection. If that's the situation, I might consider changing my mobile provider
I really appreciate your answer.
Thank you

its not worth buying the international version anymore if the US carrier versions are the same as the international one..
LTE is moving forward and HSPA+ will stop development in a few years once T-Mobile switch to LTE
im sure the T-Mobile version will be the same as the rest with LTE ready

yes i think only small 4g lte variations

YoungAceAtlanta said:
its not worth buying the international version anymore if the US carrier versions are the same as the international one..
LTE is moving forward and HSPA+ will stop development in a few years once T-Mobile switch to LTE
im sure the T-Mobile version will be the same as the rest with LTE ready
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Not true, there is three LTE variants in the US depending on the band eg provider The best US is AT&T which covers all of US. It all comes down to what bands your country decides to go with on LTE.
So it is a toss up between AT&T or UK model depending on your LTE band requirements.
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
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:No-Frost: said:
Thanks a lot, I hope the phone gets 3g, however, I know that Entel (another company in my country) will offer the HTC One on the third or fourth trimester of this year and it might allow LTE connection. If that's the situation, I might consider changing my mobile provider
I really appreciate your answer.
Thank you
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No worries, it's my pleasure.
As I said before your current HTC phone should be 3G on your network provider because 2100mhz is 3G.
ANd most unfortunate for you in South America is that they use such a mix of LTE bands covering most of the LTE spectrum, in this case you are better off with the Sony Xperia Z, which covers almost all of the used LTE bands.
I have used Claro in South America which has great coverage, but bad customer service, but I guess you always get that with the big players.

Hi,
I'm on a Canadian provider that has a hard time with getting good phones. I'm on Wind mobile and actually those who are on Mobilicity are in the same boat. When HTC One X came out it wasn't available for Wind or Mobilicity, when HTC One X+ came out it wasn't available either. Only the cheaper versions of One S would work on it, other ones didn't support the bands. I can see that for Canada none of these providers are listed to carry HTC One. Does it support the bands that Wind and Mobilicity operate at? Will it work on it? They operate in AWS

Do a search is been answered a hundred times already
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help
i need help with my one.. it doesnt seem to want to turn on after it gets a full charge

overpound said:
i need help with my one.. it doesnt seem to want to turn on after it gets a full charge
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Why hijack this thread, what does your phone turning on or not have anything to do with the topic
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mikemol said:
Hi,
I'm on a Canadian provider that has a hard time with getting good phones. I'm on Wind mobile and actually those who are on Mobilicity are in the same boat. When HTC One X came out it wasn't available for Wind or Mobilicity, when HTC One X+ came out it wasn't available either. Only the cheaper versions of One S would work on it, other ones didn't support the bands. I can see that for Canada none of these providers are listed to carry HTC One. Does it support the bands that Wind and Mobilicity operate at? Will it work on it? They operate in AWS
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Why don't you go back one page and read, I have posted all the bands supported by the phone. AT&T will be your best option for coverage

I've got a bit of a similar question about where this phone will work on a specific network. If I buy an unlocked CDMA version of the HTC one, can I just drop a Verizon sim card into it and use the phone on verizon's network?

emepror said:
I've got a bit of a similar question about where this phone will work on a specific network. If I buy an unlocked CDMA version of the HTC one, can I just drop a Verizon sim card into it and use the phone on verizon's network?
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There is no CDMA version, and cdma devices do not use sim cards.
M.
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only reason i bring that up because the ONE will be on sprint's network which is CDMA, along with the fact that i thought verizon 4g phones used sim cards ( my pantech marauder loner phone had one). thanks for the answer

Hello
Do you know if the European version of the HTC One will be compatible with the American 3G network (ie : AT&T)...
Because last summer I was in USA and with my old HTC (not compatible with AT&T 3G), I was only able to use 2G networks for internet and it was very very bad...
So I'm asking !
Many thanks in advance for the answer !!! :good:

mbh017 said:
Hello
Do you know if the European version of the HTC One will be compatible with the American 3G network (ie : AT&T)...
Because last summer I was in USA and with my old HTC (not compatible with AT&T 3G), I was only able to use 2G networks for internet and it was very very bad...
So I'm asking !
Many thanks in advance for the answer !!! :good:
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Well, as far as I know, the HTC One will be just one device with no difference with the ones sold in America, Europe, Asia, etc...

:No-Frost: said:
Well, as far as I know, the HTC One will be just one device with no difference with the ones sold in America, Europe, Asia, etc...
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Thank you!
If it's confirmed, I will definitly buy this HTC One in march!!

[Q] Deciding Between 6602 Or 6603

Hello All,
Before I order my Xperia Z, I am trying to figure out what model to get best suited for my carrier. I am in US and would like to use T-Mobile.
I am leaning towards the 6603 since it has the ability to be flashed with the ZL baseband which enables LTE support for those in Canada. It should work for US also but nobody has posted from US with success. My only concern with the 6603 is that it does not have 1700/1900 support out of the box.
I guess what I am asking is, if I purchase the 6603 and flash the ZL baseband, will it have the ability for HSPA+ for Tmobile? The ZL supports LTE and HSPA+. Ideally it would be great to have LTE also but at a minimum I would want HSPA+. Not sure if this is a hardware or baseband limitation.
The 6602 has HSPA+ out of the box but apparently you can't get LTE even with flashing the ZL baseband.
If someone could clear the confusion that would be much appreciated.

dsmero said:
Hello All,
Before I order my Xperia Z, I am trying to figure out what model to get best suited for my carrier. I am in US and would like to use T-Mobile.
I am leaning towards the 6603 since it has the ability to be flashed with the ZL baseband which enables LTE support for those in Canada. It should work for US also but nobody has posted from US with success. My only concern with the 6603 is that it does not have 1700/1900 support out of the box.
I guess what I am asking is, if I purchase the 6603 and flash the ZL baseband, will it have the ability for HSPA+ for Tmobile? The ZL supports LTE and HSPA+. Ideally it would be great to have LTE also but at a minimum I would want HSPA+. Not sure if this is a hardware or baseband limitation.
The 6602 has HSPA+ out of the box but apparently you can't get LTE even with flashing the ZL baseband.
If someone could clear the confusion that would be much appreciated.
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C6602 won't get LTE support cause it doesn't have its compatible hardware (LTE antenna)
but with HSPA+ u will have fast internet access like LTE
But i suggest u to buy C6603 because of LTE
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x102x96x said:
C6602 won't get LTE support cause it doesn't have its compatible hardware (LTE antenna)
but with HSPA+ u will have fast internet access like LTE
But i suggest u to buy C6603 because of LTE
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Yeah that's what I'm leaning towards I just don't want to get the C6603, flash the zl baseband only not to get HSPA+ or LTE and be stuck on Edge.
I wish they could just make a variant that supports all lol

dsmero said:
Yeah that's what I'm leaning towards I just don't want to get the C6603, flash the zl baseband only not to get HSPA+ or LTE and be stuck on Edge.
I wish they could just make a variant that supports all lol
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C6606 should be launching soon. Wait for that if it matters than much. Can't go wrong with c6606
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does your city support LTE? if not then why bother? I am using HSPA+ on tmobile and its 15 down and 3 up which is equivalent to my fios internet...I dont need 30mb down for a phone as it is irrelevant as most server will throttle download speed anyway.

G1_enthusiast said:
does your city support LTE? if not then why bother? I am using HSPA+ on tmobile and its 15 down and 3 up which is equivalent to my fios internet...I dont need 30mb down for a phone as it is irrelevant as most server will throttle download speed anyway.
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It does and I like the idea of further proofing. I might try AT&T also if not happy with Tmobile. I do agree with HSPA+ being beast, I just like to have as many options available as I can
I wish the C6606 had a firm release date i'm itching for a new phone to play around with.

dsmero said:
It does and I like the idea of further proofing. I might try AT&T also if not happy with Tmobile. I do agree with HSPA+ being beast, I just like to have as many options available as I can
I wish the C6606 had a firm release date i'm itching for a new phone to play around with.
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If i were u i wait for that ZR, its water proof not like the Z where its water resistant

The C6606 definitely looks like the way to go. HSPA+ and LTE support for the US and identical specs to the C6603. Just no release date.
The ZR being waterproof is appealing but looks to have a 720p screen and 4.5"

[Q] HTC ONE 801s (Hong Kong Model) Work In Canada?

Hey i know the HK model is using LTE 1800/2600, has anybody gotten it to work in Canada? Rogers?
I have had a Sony Xperia Z, same experience with the 2600 band, i had to flash the baseband of the ZL to get LTE working...
Do I have to do the same with the HTC One or has somebody gotten it to work without doing anything?

curseknight said:
Hey i know the HK model is using LTE 1800/2600, has anybody gotten it to work in Canada? Rogers?
I have had a Sony Xperia Z, same experience with the 2600 band, i had to flash the baseband of the ZL to get LTE working...
Do I have to do the same with the HTC One or has somebody gotten it to work without doing anything?
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would like to know also
but Rogers LTE max now uses 2600 band, so would that mean it will work with this without doing anything ??

In theory it'll connect where 2600 is available.
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In theory it'll connect where 2600 is available.
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NOPE!
I had a Xperia Z which also has 2600 band, but it did not work even after Rogers deployment of 2600...
The solution was flashing the ZL baseband which is made for North America and somehow the LTE works after...
Just wondering if its the same situation here for the HTC ONE

curseknight said:
NOPE!
I had a Xperia Z which also has 2600 band, but it did not work even after Rogers deployment of 2600...
The solution was flashing the ZL baseband which is made for North America and somehow the LTE works after...
Just wondering if its the same situation here for the HTC ONE
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Sony is different from HTC.

So I bought the HTC one from Hong Kong (the 801s) over here in Toronto Canada
And it does work with the lte max I assume, although it shows 4G on top, it does experience faster speed then my iPhone 5 side by side
it does cut off a lot though

Can you elaborate on the issue of it cutting out? Is it usually when you're inside? Also are you located in the downtown core or the suburbs? Thanks!

dortok said:
Can you elaborate on the issue of it cutting out? Is it usually when you're inside? Also are you located in the downtown core or the suburbs? Thanks!
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Is not really an issue, but it bounces back to 3g/ hspa quite often
I guess since the 2600's coverage is not as good as normal lte

nutcracker33 said:
Is not really an issue, but it bounces back to 3g/ hspa quite often
I guess since the 2600's coverage is not as good as normal lte
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But does it happen while you're inside or also when outside, cuz the 2600 doesn't penetrate walls as well. Also are you downtown?

[Q] Sony Xperia C6903, LTE on AT&T

I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?

svfusion said:
I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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i'd be cautious about buying the C6903 and using it on AT&T in the U.S. I had the international version of the Z earlier in march C6603 and i never got LTE on that phone, only HSPA+. I used this phone in Minneapolis and never saw LTE. I also did a road trip from Pittsburg to Orlando and never saw LTE on the way anywhere. Also used in Miami without LTE.
I believe its important to have the 700 band if you want to see LTE on the AT&T network on a device.

sunny051488 said:
i'd be cautious about buying the C6903 and using it on AT&T in the U.S. I had the international version of the Z earlier in march C6603 and i never got LTE on that phone, only HSPA+. I used this phone in Minneapolis and never saw LTE. I also did a road trip from Pittsburg to Orlando and never saw LTE on the way anywhere. Also used in Miami without LTE.
I believe its important to have the 700 band if you want to see LTE on the AT&T network on a device.
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You can use the 6903 model on AT&T, I'm using the Z1 on it right now. But to get LTE support you are correct, you need the 700Mhz band which is in the 6906 model.

Bleh, I had the same concern and called ATT and asked. The guy told me this.
ATT uses 700-1400mhz spectrum. meaning 700 though, not and. So any device that supports bands "in that range" will work fine. Was he misinformed, or is that right? When is the damn xxx6 model coming out anyway?

I'm using the xperia on ATT right now no LTE but I do get hspa+ which is fine (is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?) Anyways there is a chance that LTE may work in the US because ATT is rolling out and already has the 1700mhz band in a bunch of cities: Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte, Athens, GA and College Station, TX. The Nexus 4 people were reporting that it works but not sure about Z1. I'm not from any of these cities so i can't confirm if its working. Maybe someone can?

n4v1n said:
is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?
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When it's been shown to give better battery life thanks to race to idle advantages? Absolutely.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
>The non-LTE phones see a sharp drop in battery life. At least at 28nm the slower air interfaces simply have to remain active (and drawing power) for longer, which results in measurably worse battery life.
This doesn't work on slower LTE networks like verizon, but for us on ATT we can get better battery life while enjoying faster speeds. Note that in that graph anandtech measures HSPA+ as "3g", as it is 3g, despite ATT and verizon's marketing. I make this distinction to prevent people from thinking they are testing the older 1.4mbit or whatever network they used to use.
I'm probably going to get the Z1 without LTE functionality in my area anyway, because at the end of the day I'm without a smartphone right now (my HTC one got washed with my clothes and doesn't do much other than vibrate when it's plugged in now) and don't want to wait for Sony to stop being lazy and put out the model with 700mhz LTE.

youwonder said:
Bleh, I had the same concern and called ATT and asked. The guy told me this.
ATT uses 700-1400mhz spectrum. meaning 700 though, not and. So any device that supports bands "in that range" will work fine. Was he misinformed, or is that right? When is the damn xxx6 model coming out anyway?
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youwonder said:
When it's been shown to give better battery life thanks to race to idle advantages? Absolutely.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
>The non-LTE phones see a sharp drop in battery life. At least at 28nm the slower air interfaces simply have to remain active (and drawing power) for longer, which results in measurably worse battery life.
This doesn't work on slower LTE networks like verizon, but for us on ATT we can get better battery life while enjoying faster speeds. Note that in that graph anandtech measures HSPA+ as "3g", as it is 3g, despite ATT and verizon's marketing. I make this distinction to prevent people from thinking they are testing the older 1.4mbit or whatever network they used to use.
I'm probably going to get the Z1 without LTE functionality in my area anyway, because at the end of the day I'm without a smartphone right now (my HTC one got washed with my clothes and doesn't do much other than vibrate when it's plugged in now) and don't want to wait for Sony to stop being lazy and put out the model with 700mhz LTE.
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The only reason it improves battery life is because its take you less time to download things which is a given. If you're constantly downloading extremely large files then maybe you need it, but for me not so much.

svfusion said:
I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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The answer is yes, they are blowing smoke up your ass. In order for a phone to get AT&T LTE, you need Band 17. That is their primary LTE band. They also supplementarily use Band 2, 4, and 5 in select cities where they don't have Band 17. Similar thread in the Z Ultra forums, which have similar models which might clarify this more if you need more details.

n4v1n said:
The only reason it improves battery life is because its take you less time to download things which is a given. If you're constantly downloading extremely large files then maybe you need it, but for me not so much.
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You did not read the source I linked I think. It shows web browsing, not downloading massive files. LTEs speed and therefore race to idle advantage applies to more than just downloading large files, it shows battery savings in normal day to day use, from things that drain quite a bit of battery like browsing to smaller things like syncing gmail accounts.

n4v1n said:
I'm using the xperia on ATT right now no LTE but I do get hspa+ which is fine (is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?) Anyways there is a chance that LTE may work in the US because ATT is rolling out and already has the 1700mhz band in a bunch of cities: Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte, Athens, GA and College Station, TX. The Nexus 4 people were reporting that it works but not sure about Z1. I'm not from any of these cities so i can't confirm if its working. Maybe someone can?
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uly609 said:
You can use the 6903 model on AT&T, I'm using the Z1 on it right now. But to get LTE support you are correct, you need the 700Mhz band which is in the 6906 model.
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What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.

QwaarJet said:
What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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I'm getting 8.22 Mbps down and 1.13 Mbps up with full bars on AT&T right now. I'll do a few more tests to check for consistency.
EDIT: Just ran another test and I got 9.21 Mbps down and 1.13 Mbps up.

I'm full bars on my Lumia 920 here at work, only getting 5/0.6 on LTE so I guess C6903 would do just fine. I only ever get good LTE speeds at home, but I use my phone on my wifi connection there so it's not very useful. Thanks!

I received my Sony Xperia Z1 from GSM Nation yesterday and can vouch for the fact that the 6903 model will in fact NOT work with AT&T's 4G LTE network. I live in New York City too, if that means anything. I spent the entire afternoon trying to connect to the LTE network. Instead, I was able to connect to the 3G (HSPA+) network and that's it.
I am very unhappy about this and will be returning the phone to GSM Nation immediately. I love LTE speed and did not know that battery life was affected by it too (thanks for that youwonder!) so I'll patiently wait for the 6906 model to be released. Does anyone know when that might happen? I can live with my old Galaxy Note II for now I suppose. Agh!

QwaarJet said:
What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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I actually am in an area where I get LTE on AT&T with the 6903 interesting, it does get the normal speeds so highest so far 20 down which is pretty good.

AhsanU said:
I received my Sony Xperia Z1 from GSM Nation yesterday and can vouch for the fact that the 6903 model will in fact NOT work with AT&T's 4G LTE network. I live in New York City too, if that means anything. I spent the entire afternoon trying to connect to the LTE network. Instead, I was able to connect to the 3G (HSPA+) network and that's it.
I am very unhappy about this and will be returning the phone to GSM Nation immediately. I love LTE speed and did not know that battery life was affected by it too (thanks for that youwonder!) so I'll patiently wait for the 6906 model to be released. Does anyone know when that might happen? I can live with my old Galaxy Note II for now I suppose. Agh!
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Heres the message I got to the query, about at&t lte from GSM Nation, also asked them about 6906. Edited out private stuff.
"at&t's main frequency for LTE is 700 mhz so the 6903 working is really upto where in the US you live and that is unfortunately not information we would have. It is certainly limited markets for 1700's but these are just reports from customers from our followups.
Regardless we do not advertise it as compatible with at&t due to it being limited markets. And would advise that customers purchase it for use with at&t LTE at their own risk. The c6906 model traditionally comes to carriers first so that would be the safest bet at this time if your looking for at&t LTE. It should be available soon in the US."
seems pretty clear cut.

Sony Xperia ZL C6503 also no LTE
Rebsters said:
Heres the message I got to the query, about at&t lte from GSM Nation, also asked them about 6906. Edited out private stuff.
"at&t's main frequency for LTE is 700 mhz so the 6903 working is really upto where in the US you live and that is unfortunately not information we would have. It is certainly limited markets for 1700's but these are just reports from customers from our followups.
Regardless we do not advertise it as compatible with at&t due to it being limited markets. And would advise that customers purchase it for use with at&t LTE at their own risk. The c6906 model traditionally comes to carriers first so that would be the safest bet at this time if your looking for at&t LTE. It should be available soon in the US."
seems pretty clear cut.
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PMFJI. I own the C6506 (Sony branded, carrier unlocked) which support a wide range of bands including LTE IV and LTE XVII, both of which are used by AT&T. In addition, I get PCS 1900 which AT&T is rolling out.
I get NO LTE service and I was told this is by design. If you do not own an AT&T branded phone, the network will not permit you on the LTE network. I am provisioned for LTE but I cannot get even 4G.
This was not explained by anyone and it took me a number of support calls and escalations to learn this. I believe the only way to effect change on this rregressive policy is for people to complain. There is no reason to penalize BYOD customers who choose not to own an AT&T branded device.
My device specs for LTE: 4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - C6506