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Xperia Z not coming to Canada

Confirmed by Sony Mobile CA.
I will be most likely importing the Z from the states.
Any other Canadian users on here?

If I decide to get it, I will import from the country where the GSM bands match and some of the LTE bands match, if that country exists. I believe the US uses completely different LTE bands than Canada, not positive on that yet though.

I think there's two models. One with lte and the other hspa+. Pretty the hspa+ will work for us Canadians not sure about the lte model...
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crookx said:
I think there's two models. One with lte and the other hspa+. Pretty the hspa+ will work for us Canadians not sure about the lte model...
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Hopefully we can confirm soon.
I really want LTE.
It pisses me off so much that Sony will not release their flagship in Canada.
This may be the deciding factor that will make me jump ship to Samsung.

ssj_jaypee said:
Hopefully we can confirm soon.
I really want LTE.
It pisses me off so much that Sony will not release their flagship in Canada.
This may be the deciding factor that will make me jump ship to Samsung.
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I feel your pain..
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I guess you don't want the ZL?
As crookx said the LTE model might not work with our network bands. The HSPA version will be fine, but when offered LTE who would choose HSPA?
I think Sony should've just made a third North American model of the Z with the NA bands instead of making the ZL.
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Yeah, it's pretty BS considering how much it rains here in Vancouver.

I'm actually glad Canada is getting the ZL. I don't like annoying flaps over my ports, wetness isn't an issue for me. And the compactness is just a great thing these days when Android phones seem to be getting bigger and bigger, which I'm not a fan of.
Sucks that everyone can't get what they want, but I'm grateful to get what I preferred

doodads said:
I'm actually glad Canada is getting the ZL. I don't like annoying flaps over my ports, wetness isn't an issue for me. And the compactness is just a great thing these days when Android phones seem to be getting bigger and bigger, which I'm not a fan of.
Sucks that everyone can't get what they want, but I'm grateful to get what I preferred
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I also vastly prefer the ZL to the Z. Smaller phone overal and no brittle glass back.

noxlord said:
I also vastly prefer the ZL to the Z. Smaller phone overal and no brittle glass back.
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The Glass housing is not brittle.
Did you see the testing videos on youtube? The material is just as strong as any other phone.
Anyway ZL is not the flagship model.
I just wished they gave the option for both here.

ssj_jaypee said:
The Glass housing is not brittle.
Did you see the testing videos on youtube? The material is just as strong as any other phone.
Anyway ZL is not the flagship model.
I just wished they gave the option for both here.
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One drop on a not-concrete floor ... Looking at the OptimusG//Nexus4 reports of disasters I can only fear for the glass back to be a problem.

im hoping for ZL too.
i dont need waterproof and ZL seems to have smaller bezel. as long as it has the same CPU and RAM as Z, then ZL would be perfect.

ssj_jaypee said:
Confirmed by Sony Mobile CA.
I will be most likely importing the Z from the states.
Any other Canadian users on here?
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oh yes well

Good News!! Looks like the LTE model will be compatible with out networks
Look at page 7 of sony's white paper. Both Rogers and Bell use band 4 and 7 which the C6603 supports.
http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/c66/whitepaper_EN_c66_ xperia_z.pdf.pdf
LTE bands by carrier from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

REEFERKIEF said:
Look at page 7 of sony's white paper. Both Rogers and Bell use band 4 and 7 which the C6603 supports.
http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/c66/whitepaper_EN_c66_ xperia_z.pdf.pdf
LTE bands by carrier from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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so xperia z lte will work in Canada?

REEFERKIEF said:
Look at page 7 of sony's white paper. Both Rogers and Bell use band 4 and 7 which the C6603 supports.
http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/c66/whitepaper_EN_c66_ xperia_z.pdf.pdf
LTE bands by carrier from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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the question is whether the 3G band will work with 03. Im not so sure if you could just skip the 3G band and get LTE to work.
rogers uses 850 and 1900 for 3g band
I read somewhere that voice calls and other minor stuff uses 3g band of 850 and/or 1900.
All the phones ive used contains both. So i dont know will it work with ONLY 850 on the device.
and someone pointed out that specific areas in canada uses 850 and some uses 1900. So the problem is that if you go out of the 850 area, phone will not work?
I dont know how all these bands work. I guess someone need to purchase it and try it to see if LTE of 03 actually works here in canada.
There must be a reason why sony decided Canada not to have the Z and have the ZL instead. I want the phone as much as you do, but its pretty pointless to pay $700+ on a phone that doesnt even have LTE in my IMO.

If the Z comes to Canada (or one from a US carrier will work 100% here) I will be getting it in white for sure..that is one sexy phone. If LTE doesnt work here than no point, putting up with slow H+ speeds on a $700 phone is not for me.
IMO the ZL is just plain ugly, which is unfortunate as it also has killer specs.
Only time will tell but I think Sony are missing the boat if they dont release the Z here...on the other hand it will save me some money..I wont have to buy the GS4 AND the sony lol.

Bell is getting the C6506 (ZL) with LTE.

i found this.
In Canada, GSM-1900 is the primary band used in urban areas with 850 as a backup, and GSM-850 being the primary rural band.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
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so assuming this applies to 3g/hspa as well and also assume it does work with the "backup" 850, you will probably get really crappy signal with the phone due to the fact that the cities we live in are all urban areas. :l
thats just the info i got i could be wrong. lets hope im wrong.

The 6503 will not be released in Canada, no provider is going to sell a phone that won't work on their primary bands. Especially when there is a variant that already supports them.

C6606 lte for ATT?

hi, according to specs on sony's page for the t-mobile xperia z it only has one LTE band. Will Atts Lte work with this phone?

More than likely firmware based restriction you could try flashing a generic ftf that has access to more lte bands
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C6606 on AT&T LTE
I want to know this badly too. It only list band IV (700) for LTE. Will it work on AT&T LTE? Please help if anyone has a clear answer. Thanks

Xperia786 said:
I want to know this badly too. It only list band IV (700) for LTE. Will it work on AT&T LTE? Please help if anyone has a clear answer. Thanks
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You can get the regular ZL version from regular retailer like amazon.

ismewor said:
You can get the regular ZL version from regular retailer like amazon.
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I really want the water resistant Z though.

[Q] Sony Xperia C6903, LTE on AT&T

I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?

svfusion said:
I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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i'd be cautious about buying the C6903 and using it on AT&T in the U.S. I had the international version of the Z earlier in march C6603 and i never got LTE on that phone, only HSPA+. I used this phone in Minneapolis and never saw LTE. I also did a road trip from Pittsburg to Orlando and never saw LTE on the way anywhere. Also used in Miami without LTE.
I believe its important to have the 700 band if you want to see LTE on the AT&T network on a device.

sunny051488 said:
i'd be cautious about buying the C6903 and using it on AT&T in the U.S. I had the international version of the Z earlier in march C6603 and i never got LTE on that phone, only HSPA+. I used this phone in Minneapolis and never saw LTE. I also did a road trip from Pittsburg to Orlando and never saw LTE on the way anywhere. Also used in Miami without LTE.
I believe its important to have the 700 band if you want to see LTE on the AT&T network on a device.
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You can use the 6903 model on AT&T, I'm using the Z1 on it right now. But to get LTE support you are correct, you need the 700Mhz band which is in the 6906 model.

Bleh, I had the same concern and called ATT and asked. The guy told me this.
ATT uses 700-1400mhz spectrum. meaning 700 though, not and. So any device that supports bands "in that range" will work fine. Was he misinformed, or is that right? When is the damn xxx6 model coming out anyway?

I'm using the xperia on ATT right now no LTE but I do get hspa+ which is fine (is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?) Anyways there is a chance that LTE may work in the US because ATT is rolling out and already has the 1700mhz band in a bunch of cities: Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte, Athens, GA and College Station, TX. The Nexus 4 people were reporting that it works but not sure about Z1. I'm not from any of these cities so i can't confirm if its working. Maybe someone can?

n4v1n said:
is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?
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When it's been shown to give better battery life thanks to race to idle advantages? Absolutely.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
>The non-LTE phones see a sharp drop in battery life. At least at 28nm the slower air interfaces simply have to remain active (and drawing power) for longer, which results in measurably worse battery life.
This doesn't work on slower LTE networks like verizon, but for us on ATT we can get better battery life while enjoying faster speeds. Note that in that graph anandtech measures HSPA+ as "3g", as it is 3g, despite ATT and verizon's marketing. I make this distinction to prevent people from thinking they are testing the older 1.4mbit or whatever network they used to use.
I'm probably going to get the Z1 without LTE functionality in my area anyway, because at the end of the day I'm without a smartphone right now (my HTC one got washed with my clothes and doesn't do much other than vibrate when it's plugged in now) and don't want to wait for Sony to stop being lazy and put out the model with 700mhz LTE.

youwonder said:
Bleh, I had the same concern and called ATT and asked. The guy told me this.
ATT uses 700-1400mhz spectrum. meaning 700 though, not and. So any device that supports bands "in that range" will work fine. Was he misinformed, or is that right? When is the damn xxx6 model coming out anyway?
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youwonder said:
When it's been shown to give better battery life thanks to race to idle advantages? Absolutely.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
>The non-LTE phones see a sharp drop in battery life. At least at 28nm the slower air interfaces simply have to remain active (and drawing power) for longer, which results in measurably worse battery life.
This doesn't work on slower LTE networks like verizon, but for us on ATT we can get better battery life while enjoying faster speeds. Note that in that graph anandtech measures HSPA+ as "3g", as it is 3g, despite ATT and verizon's marketing. I make this distinction to prevent people from thinking they are testing the older 1.4mbit or whatever network they used to use.
I'm probably going to get the Z1 without LTE functionality in my area anyway, because at the end of the day I'm without a smartphone right now (my HTC one got washed with my clothes and doesn't do much other than vibrate when it's plugged in now) and don't want to wait for Sony to stop being lazy and put out the model with 700mhz LTE.
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The only reason it improves battery life is because its take you less time to download things which is a given. If you're constantly downloading extremely large files then maybe you need it, but for me not so much.

svfusion said:
I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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The answer is yes, they are blowing smoke up your ass. In order for a phone to get AT&T LTE, you need Band 17. That is their primary LTE band. They also supplementarily use Band 2, 4, and 5 in select cities where they don't have Band 17. Similar thread in the Z Ultra forums, which have similar models which might clarify this more if you need more details.

n4v1n said:
The only reason it improves battery life is because its take you less time to download things which is a given. If you're constantly downloading extremely large files then maybe you need it, but for me not so much.
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You did not read the source I linked I think. It shows web browsing, not downloading massive files. LTEs speed and therefore race to idle advantage applies to more than just downloading large files, it shows battery savings in normal day to day use, from things that drain quite a bit of battery like browsing to smaller things like syncing gmail accounts.

n4v1n said:
I'm using the xperia on ATT right now no LTE but I do get hspa+ which is fine (is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?) Anyways there is a chance that LTE may work in the US because ATT is rolling out and already has the 1700mhz band in a bunch of cities: Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte, Athens, GA and College Station, TX. The Nexus 4 people were reporting that it works but not sure about Z1. I'm not from any of these cities so i can't confirm if its working. Maybe someone can?
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uly609 said:
You can use the 6903 model on AT&T, I'm using the Z1 on it right now. But to get LTE support you are correct, you need the 700Mhz band which is in the 6906 model.
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What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.

QwaarJet said:
What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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I'm getting 8.22 Mbps down and 1.13 Mbps up with full bars on AT&T right now. I'll do a few more tests to check for consistency.
EDIT: Just ran another test and I got 9.21 Mbps down and 1.13 Mbps up.

I'm full bars on my Lumia 920 here at work, only getting 5/0.6 on LTE so I guess C6903 would do just fine. I only ever get good LTE speeds at home, but I use my phone on my wifi connection there so it's not very useful. Thanks!

I received my Sony Xperia Z1 from GSM Nation yesterday and can vouch for the fact that the 6903 model will in fact NOT work with AT&T's 4G LTE network. I live in New York City too, if that means anything. I spent the entire afternoon trying to connect to the LTE network. Instead, I was able to connect to the 3G (HSPA+) network and that's it.
I am very unhappy about this and will be returning the phone to GSM Nation immediately. I love LTE speed and did not know that battery life was affected by it too (thanks for that youwonder!) so I'll patiently wait for the 6906 model to be released. Does anyone know when that might happen? I can live with my old Galaxy Note II for now I suppose. Agh!

QwaarJet said:
What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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I actually am in an area where I get LTE on AT&T with the 6903 interesting, it does get the normal speeds so highest so far 20 down which is pretty good.

AhsanU said:
I received my Sony Xperia Z1 from GSM Nation yesterday and can vouch for the fact that the 6903 model will in fact NOT work with AT&T's 4G LTE network. I live in New York City too, if that means anything. I spent the entire afternoon trying to connect to the LTE network. Instead, I was able to connect to the 3G (HSPA+) network and that's it.
I am very unhappy about this and will be returning the phone to GSM Nation immediately. I love LTE speed and did not know that battery life was affected by it too (thanks for that youwonder!) so I'll patiently wait for the 6906 model to be released. Does anyone know when that might happen? I can live with my old Galaxy Note II for now I suppose. Agh!
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Heres the message I got to the query, about at&t lte from GSM Nation, also asked them about 6906. Edited out private stuff.
"at&t's main frequency for LTE is 700 mhz so the 6903 working is really upto where in the US you live and that is unfortunately not information we would have. It is certainly limited markets for 1700's but these are just reports from customers from our followups.
Regardless we do not advertise it as compatible with at&t due to it being limited markets. And would advise that customers purchase it for use with at&t LTE at their own risk. The c6906 model traditionally comes to carriers first so that would be the safest bet at this time if your looking for at&t LTE. It should be available soon in the US."
seems pretty clear cut.

Sony Xperia ZL C6503 also no LTE
Rebsters said:
Heres the message I got to the query, about at&t lte from GSM Nation, also asked them about 6906. Edited out private stuff.
"at&t's main frequency for LTE is 700 mhz so the 6903 working is really upto where in the US you live and that is unfortunately not information we would have. It is certainly limited markets for 1700's but these are just reports from customers from our followups.
Regardless we do not advertise it as compatible with at&t due to it being limited markets. And would advise that customers purchase it for use with at&t LTE at their own risk. The c6906 model traditionally comes to carriers first so that would be the safest bet at this time if your looking for at&t LTE. It should be available soon in the US."
seems pretty clear cut.
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PMFJI. I own the C6506 (Sony branded, carrier unlocked) which support a wide range of bands including LTE IV and LTE XVII, both of which are used by AT&T. In addition, I get PCS 1900 which AT&T is rolling out.
I get NO LTE service and I was told this is by design. If you do not own an AT&T branded phone, the network will not permit you on the LTE network. I am provisioned for LTE but I cannot get even 4G.
This was not explained by anyone and it took me a number of support calls and escalations to learn this. I believe the only way to effect change on this rregressive policy is for people to complain. There is no reason to penalize BYOD customers who choose not to own an AT&T branded device.
My device specs for LTE: 4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - C6506

C5306 4G in Australia?

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to mobiles phones and I just bought a Xperia SP C5306 from the US. I am located in Australia and am wondering if I can use the 4G here back at home? I kinda bought it in a rush. If there is no way I can use the 4G because of the difference in frequency bands can I some how change it with a kernal or rom?
Cheers
Xero

Xeroxidous said:
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to mobiles phones and I just bought a Xperia SP C5306 from the US. I am located in Australia and am wondering if I can use the 4G here back at home? I kinda bought it in a rush. If there is no way I can use the 4G because of the difference in frequency bands can I some how change it with a kernal or rom?
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C5302 and C5303 (LTE) are definitely compatible with Aussie network bands, but the C5306 is for US network bands. I don't think that you can change the frequency bands, I think that it is a hardware thing.

Ah dang. Guess I gotta some how get rid of the phone to someone in the US since the C5306 does not accept the 4G LTE bands here in Australia. Thanks for the help.

c6603 USA LTE band help

Hello , i will travel to USA in a couple of days , is there any way i can add LTE BAND 4 on my c6603 xperia z? I really want to use LTE data speeds in USA as ill power my laptop with internet and i think my phone wont work with LTE in USA. Any help will be appreciated.

izyeasy said:
Hello , i will travel to USA in a couple of days , is there any way i can add LTE BAND 4 on my c6603 xperia z? I really want to use LTE data speeds in USA as ill power my laptop with internet and i think my phone wont work with LTE in USA. Any help will be appreciated.
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Unfortunately you cant enable LTE for band 4 by flashing baseband files its more related to hardware than software.
For T-Mobile/Verizon you will be stuck with EDGE and on AT&T you will get 3G

arent any providers with other bands out there in US?

izyeasy said:
arent any providers with other bands out there in US?
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Other carriers are dependent on the major carriers for network allocation

that sucks!

izyeasy said:
that sucks!
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Lol
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This should be of interest to you. It seems to achieve what you're asking.
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