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I am just wondering what the longevity is for the nexus 4. Will I be able to use it for at least 3 years cause I am done keeping up with the joneses
But the nexus 4 does have a few shortcomings that makes me thing it will not have that much longevity. To name a few
- storage is only 16gigs
- camera is not the best on the market
- no lte
- launch is a huge failure. And it makes me wonder if the community is going to pick up some steam or if people are holding out for the N5 or the S4
How future proof is the nexus 4?

You can hold on to the Nexus 4 as long as you want. For some the phone may fit their need for 6 months and for others the phone may fit their need for 3 years. You have people still using the the Nexus One that came out in 2010.
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In my opinion, yes. I see this device as being relevant for at least 3 years, and no less. There will be faster things in 3 years, that's no question. But this device will remain relevant due to Google's software support and it being a Nexus device, XDA's unconditional support in the long run.
Second, it will also be useful for at least 3 years due to the awesome LG tech sprinkled in which bumps up the 500-full charge cycles to 800 cycles before the battery starts capping off at 80% of its original charge.
Things like storage, camera, etc, that's really a personal choice for you. For people who don't need it, the N4 is a no brainer. I've personally been more than satisfied with the camera.
wilcoholic said:
I am just wondering what the longevity is for the nexus 4. Will I be able to use it for at least 3 years cause I am done keeping up with the joneses
But the nexus 4 does have a few shortcomings that makes me thing it will not have that much longevity. To name a few
- storage is only 16gigs
- camera is not the best on the market
- no lte
- launch is a huge failure. And it makes me wonder if the community is going to pick up some steam or if people are holding out for the N5 or the S4
How future proof is the nexus 4?
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I wouldn't say the launch was a failure. Actual Demand far exceeded projected demand this is a win in my eyes. Was the launch frustrating, yes but that does not equate to failure
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Smart phones are slowly getting to the same point at desktop PCs. You will be able to perform most basic functions on a older device with gamers and geeks demanding the latest and greatest hardware.
A friend recently picked up a sgs2. She does not game and is a light user and the phone runs fine.
The only thing that you might want to upgrade early for is lte.
Full disclosure: I live in canada so I already have a lte n4
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It depends on ones usage. There's still plenty of people perfectly happy with the Galaxy S, iPhone 3GS, Nexus One etc. And those devices are approaching 3 and even 4 years old. And those are single core phones with 512mb of RAM or less. A 4th of what current devices are coming out with. I'd imagine the crop of dual core phones with 1gb+ of RAM released in 2011/12 will last just as long if not longer. Dual core still has yet to be completely saturated and now we're coming out with quad core phones. Software still has plenty of catching up to do. I'm fully expecting to get 2-3 years out of my Nexus 4 with my current usage.

The person who mentioned the SII above is exactly right. Most good smartphones from the SII on will be fine for years unless there is some specific application that requires something that only a newer phone will have. Personally, I held onto the SII for a couple of years and expect the N4 to last as long if not longer (mind you my boss and a lot of people still have blackberries/"smart"phones that are ancient and are perfectly happy). The only things that might require an upgrade is if you are really into pictures and use it as your primary camera and need LTE; then again if you bought the N4 with a view to keeping it for a while, I am guessing that neither of these apply to you.

The lack of replies have made me seriously consider the iphone 5. I opened this topic yesterday and I only got like 6 replies. I am wondering how long this device is going to last since the community right now is nonexistent. If there is no community for this phone then the phone has zero longevity.
At least the iphone 5 is going to be supported for a while and has that longevity.

The Nexus 4 will be supported by Google for 2 years AT THE LEAST, probably more.
I will determine how long i am going to use mine when i FINALLY get the f*cking thing!

wilcoholic said:
The lack of replies have made me seriously consider the iphone 5. I opened this topic yesterday and I only got like 6 replies. I am wondering how long this device is going to last since the community right now is nonexistent. If there is no community for this phone then the phone has zero longevity.
At least the iphone 5 is going to be supported for a while and has that longevity.
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No community? What? This is a Nexus, bro. The community is just getting started. It is the main reason I bought this phone.
Maybe you should get an iPhone 5. I think it would suit you.

The Nexus 4 has all the raw power required in a smartphone for the foreseeable future, but the x-factor is what other things will be added to phones in a year or two. New sensors that have compelling use cases or new radios that allow a new kind of connection will be the things that cause this phone (and each of its contemporaries) to be less usable
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wilcoholic said:
I opened this topic yesterday and I only got like 6 replies.
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Maybe because everybody already answered in one of the 10 other threads with this topic.
I am wondering how long this device is going to last since the community right now is nonexistent.
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There are already far more than 200.000 posts in the Nexus 4 section of XDA. Not bad for a device that is barely 3 months on the market. Official support for a number of custom roms (including Cyanogenmod) is already there and you are talking about a nonexistent community?
At least the iphone 5 is going to be supported for a while and has that longevity.
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Hm... I think I am feeding a troll here?

estallings15 said:
No community? What? This is a Nexus, bro. The community is just getting started. It is the main reason I bought this phone.
Maybe you should get an iPhone 5. I think it would suit you.
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Wrong. Its a nexus with a failed launch, with rumors of a nexus5, finger pointing and the galaxy s4 right around the corner. And it already lags behind other flagship phones in terms of specs

The phone will last until it breaks. I'm guessing five to ten years?
Come on, we used to have phones for years, with zero updates, and were perfectly happy.
Galaxy s2 does pretty everything my nexus 4 does and probably more, it's just a little slower.
With this phone as it stands now, with zero new updates, it'll last as long as you want or need.
Only way you might want new features is if you buy into samsungs touchwiz enhancements like split screen etc.
edit: As for lagging behind other flagship phones in terms of specs? You mean the Droid DNA and the Butterfly J? Because they are the only phones I can think of that are out now, with any kind of jump on the Nexus 4 hardware wise, and they are only available in the good old U.s of A and Japan? please...

wilcoholic said:
Wrong. Its a nexus with a failed launch, with rumors of a nexus5, finger pointing and the galaxy s4 right around the corner. And it already lags behind other flagship phones in terms of specs
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Haha. You're stupid.
You are using rumor and opinion to make a point. Therefore there is no reasoning with you. You only want to argue and make drama. Have fun with your iPhone 5.

What a ridiculously useless thread.
No one has any clue how well the Nexus 4 will hold up after 3 years. It hasn't even been in our hands for 3 months.

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What a ridiculously useless thread.
No one has any clue how well the Nexus 4 will hold up after 3 years. It hasn't even been in our hands for 3 months.
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I couldn't agree more. Thread reported.

wilcoholic said:
Wrong. Its a nexus with a failed launch, with rumors of a nexus5, finger pointing and the galaxy s4 right around the corner. And it already lags behind other flagship phones in terms of specs
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What phones does the nexus 4 lag behind? The DNA and note 2 are the only 2 right now I can think of that the hardware matches up to the nexus 4.
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estallings15 said:
Haha. You're stupid.
You are using rumor and opinion to make a point. Therefore there is no reasoning with you. You only want to argue and make drama. Have fun with your iPhone 5.
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Ok whatever. Thats not the point. The point is is that the specs of the next gen phones are already out and their are going to be released pretty soon. And at this moment the community of the nexus 4 still hasn't picked up steam 3 months after release.
I and many others are thinking with next gen phones right around the corner would it still be wise to get an outdated nexus4.
kid1da said:
What phones does the nexus 4 lag behind? The DNA and note 2 are the only 2 right now I can think of that the hardware matches up to the nexus 4.
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iphone5, note2, sgs3

The OP is either is either extremely uninformed or a master troll. I can't tell which. This is hilarious.

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Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-
For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.
The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.
I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.
manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?
powerwagon said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.
Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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[DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

N4 vs All Other Phones Discussion
Hey all!
I have been meaning to write this thread for a few days now and finally found some time to do so. Basically the name describes it all. This thread is meant to discuss our Nexus 4 vs any and every up coming phone all in one place. The nexus forum is going to be a very popular place once the phone makes it way out to people over the next few months. The purpose of this thread is to try to keep some sort of cleanliness and avoid the dozens of "Is this phone better than the N4" threads every time a new devices is released. Please keep all those discussions confined to this thread. Please keep it civil and remember no flaming or trolling will be allowed. Just a reminder I am certain the Mods will be enforcing this policy in our forum. Thank you all for your cooperation it is greatly appreciated :angel:
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I guess this thread is not working.... ive seen a lot threads sayings nexus 4 vs ?
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dude he just created this thread last night! give it time
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N4 vs All Other Phones Discussion
Hey all!
I have been meaning to write this thread for a few days now and finally found some time to do so. Basically the name describes it all. This thread is meant to discuss our Nexus 4 vs any and every up coming phone all in one place. The nexus forum is going to be a very popular place once the phone makes it way out to people over the next few months. The purpose of this thread is to try to keep some sort of cleanliness and avoid the dozens of "Is this phone better than the N4" threads every time a new devices is released. Please keep all those discussions confined to this thread. Please keep it civil and remember no flaming or trolling will be allowed. Just a reminder I am certain the Mods will be enforcing this policy in our forum. Thank you all for your cooperation it is greatly appreciated :angel: ​
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I love my Nexus 4.....but the only thing i wonder about is why did LG think it is OK to put the headphone jack on the top? My old nexus s has it on the bottom and it makes much more sense there.
This is two different category of phones, but Nexus 4 VS Note 2. Which is better at what and why?
I guess I'll throw my opinion out there...
After owning the first iPhone, 3G, then 3GS I decided to give Android a try with the Nexus One. It was all downhill from there as I was completely sucked into Android. I then went through a few different android phones from the Nexus one > HTC Sensation > Galaxy SII > Galaxy Nexus > Galaxy SIII. I was happy with all of these phones. However, when the iPhone 5 came out I decided it was time to give IOS a try again. I lasted all of 2 weeks with that phone until i realized I really just cannot stand IOS (even as a mac user). But the one thing that made me hesitant in going back to Android was that the build quality of the iPhone 5 is excellent. It was better than any other phone I had ever owned.
When the Nexus 4 was announced and reviews were being posted on many blogs I decided to return the iPhone 5 and pull the Galaxy Nexus out of the nightstand to use until I could get my hands on the N4. People were saying it was the most solid and well built Android phone to date so I was getting excited for it. As of 3 days ago I finally have the N4 in my possession. At first I really liked it but didn't think it was THAT much better than the Galaxy Nexus. But after a few days of real use I have come to learn that this phone truly lives up to the hype. It really is the most well built Android phone I have ever used and it's the first Android phone that I really think can be compared to the iPhone in terms of build quality.
I'm already happier with this phone than I have been with any of my previous phones. It really is of superb quality and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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I guess I'll throw my opinion out there...
After owning the first iPhone, 3G, then 3GS I decided to give Android a try with the Nexus One. It was all downhill from there as I was completely sucked into Android. I then went through a few different android phones from the Nexus one > HTC Sensation > Galaxy SII > Galaxy Nexus > Galaxy SIII. I was happy with all of these phones. However, when the iPhone 5 came out I decided it was time to give IOS a try again. I lasted all of 2 weeks with that phone until i realized I really just cannot stand IOS (even as a mac user). But the one thing that made me hesitant in going back to Android was that the build quality of the iPhone 5 is excellent. It was better than any other phone I had ever owned.
When the Nexus 4 was announced and reviews were being posted on many blogs I decided to return the iPhone 5 and pull the Galaxy Nexus out of the nightstand to use until I could get my hands on the N4. People were saying it was the most solid and well built Android phone to date so I was getting excited for it. As of 3 days ago I finally have the N4 in my possession. At first I really liked it but didn't think it was THAT much better than the Galaxy Nexus. But after a few days of real use I have come to learn that this phone truly lives up to the hype. It really is the most well built Android phone I have ever used and it's the first Android phone that I really think can be compared to the iPhone in terms of build quality.
I'm already happier with this phone than I have been with any of my previous phones. It really is of superb quality and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Agree with everything you saud. This is truely the first time Android has had a "premium" feeling phone.
Coming from a nexus s, the nexus 4 is a huge jump. I have read several posts/topics about all the problems people have encountered with the nexus 4 but I have yet to run into any of them. There has not been any screen yellowing, no speaker noise, camera problems, no overheating problems, etc. The build quality is excellent as stated in the previous post. There is a little flex in the device if you try bending it but there isn't and shouldn't be any under normal use. The screen is nice and crisp. I don't see any issues with saturation as some people disliked before. The battery life on the nexus 4 is better than the nexus s, which was plenty enough already. However, there is one area that the nexus s outperforms the nexus 4: the sound quality. Don't get me wrong though, the sound on the nexus 4 isn't bad at all but it could be improved. It would be great if we could get supercurio to add the Qualcomm chip to the list of devices that voodoo sound supports (if we could set up a fund for supercurio to work on this it would be awesome ). Other notes: I really liked the size of the nexus s and I really didn't want to get a larger screen, but the nexus 4 fits great in my hand and I am very happy with the extra screen estate. Overall I am extremely happy with the device and I would highly recommend the upgrade for any nexus s users.
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I love my Nexus 4.....but the only thing i wonder about is why did LG think it is OK to put the headphone jack on the top? My old nexus s has it on the bottom and it makes much more sense there.
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better with headphone jack on top when you're pluggin aux in car. and the whole theory of "headphone jack is better on bottom for keeping phone in jeans and listening to music" is a load of crap. there are many ways to reach for your pocket lol, and having the jack on the bottom doesn't make it more convenient
Nexus 4 vs Optimus G
Why do you think Optimus is scoring 7,000 compared to 4,000 of Nexus 4 in quadrant benchmark test? They both got the same HW!
Droid DNA vs Nexus 4
I put this in another thread when I was trying to decided between the N4 and DNA.
Nexus 4 Pros:
-Unlocked bootloader, huge dev community
-Most recent software + updates
-Power button on side
-More affordable phone ($349 16gb) and GSM carriers are more affordable
-No Contract
-Resells well
Nexus 4 Cons:
-Touch screen sensitivity (doesnt register light touches, pinching+scrolling delayed)
-Issues with 4.2
-No LTE (yet, has Band 4 which is coming to Tmo soon and likely the new Google/dish network)
-Nav bar can take away screen real estate on the homescreen and some apps
-Light buzzing sound in earphone
DNA Pros:
-Taller 1080p screen, thin bezel
-Capacitive buttons
-4g LTE
-Mifare Classic NFC chips work
-Minimal amounts of software and hardware bugs, 4.1 is more stable
DNA Cons:
-Likely not to have as many ROM options. No S-OFF yet
-2 year contract! Verizon.
-1080p can result in pixelation or small icons in some games/apps
-Phone is more expensive ($599) and Verizon is more expensive
-MicroUSB cover (not a huge deal with wireless charging)
-Power button on top isnt the easiest to press, bad position too
-4.1 and won't get updates as often
Shared Attributes:
-Can be rooted, bootloader can be unlocked
-LCD Screen
-16gb Internal/No microsd
-Wireless charging
-Battery life ~4.5hrs screen-on time
-Great build quality (matter of opinion here, both are excellent in their own way)
my 2cent is that why people trying to vs nexus 4 to other smartphones out there, with 300-350 to get unlocked phone, fastest updates, no contracts. They say you get what you paid for but to me Nexus 4 is an exception!. Galaxy S3? Note 2? Iphone 5? HTC DNA? best cameras?, best specs?, best battery life?, all those are nice phones! but look at how much you have to pay?.
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Nexus 4 vs Optimus G
Why do you think Optimus is scoring 7,000 compared to 4,000 of Nexus 4 in quadrant benchmark test? They both got the same HW!
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That'll be because benchmarks don't really prove anything, just like a review doesn't mean anything if it's from someone you don't know.
BTW Mark, I've just added this thread to the Nexus 4 Complete Index with a note telling people not to create any more threads of that kind
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Im super unsure if i want to keep my lumia 920 or keep the nexus 4 (its still enroute to my home).
Basically for me it's Lumia 920 on AT&T LTE vs Google awesomeness on AT&T HSPA.
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Im super unsure if i want to keep my lumia 920 or keep the nexus 4 (its still enroute to my home).
Basically for me it's Lumia 920 on AT&T LTE vs Google awesomeness on AT&T HSPA.
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In my opinion lte shouldn't be a deciding factor. While it can be nice for certain things, your typical daily operations of the phone i.e. facebook, emails, xda and what not, your not really going to notice any difference
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Motorila atrix hd is a solid phone even though it boktloader is locked
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Well the day & half I had my nexus 4 I enjoyed it. It did start to grow on me, but I ended up trading it for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked After about 5 minutes setting up the iphone 5 I'd prefer to keep my iphone 4s with the mophie case. (Sold this morning for $420)
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Well the day & half I had my nexus 4 I enjoyed it. It did start to grow on me, but I ended up trading it for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked After about 5 minutes setting up the iphone 5 I'd prefer to keep my iphone 4s with the mophie case. (Sold this morning for $420)
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LOL!!!
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osugsxr said:
Well the day & half I had my nexus 4 I enjoyed it. It did start to grow on me, but I ended up trading it for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked After about 5 minutes setting up the iphone 5 I'd prefer to keep my iphone 4s with the mophie case. (Sold this morning for $420)
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Just so I'm clear. You traded a N4 (worth ~400$) for a 32G i5 (~800) and sold the latter for $420? Those are some messed up transactions sir.
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Google X family to replace Nexus family?

With so many shifts happening in the industry (like Samsung shifting to Tizen and away from Android, BB 10 OS, Ubuntu, etc) there is now talk of Google going against Samsung and Apple with an upcoming Google/Motorola X Phone to be announced at the I/O meeting in May during the anticipated release of Android 5.0.
Some are starting to speculate that the X Phone may not only be the next flagship device for Google but also the X family which may replace the current Nexus devices ( phones, tablets).
What are your thoughts about this? If true, do you see yourself making a jump to this rumored X Phone?
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Google just started the Nexus 4-7-10 system two months ago.... I really don't see them changing anything, even the name to X, soon.
Besides, Motorola's designs are hideous (not quite as bad as Samsung's, but still pretty bad). I really don't want to see that X phone if it looks like other Moto phones. Give the next Google phone to HTC.
streak4m3 said:
With so many shifts happening in the industry (like Samsung shifting to Tizen and away from Android, BB 10 OS, Ubuntu, etc) there is now talk of Google going against Samsung and Apple with an upcoming Google/Motorola X Phone to be announced at the I/O meeting in May during the anticipated release of Android 5.0.
Some are starting to speculate that the X Phone may not only be the next flagship device for Google but also the X family which may replace the current Nexus devices ( phones, tablets).
What are your thoughts about this? If true, do you see yourself making a jump to this rumored X Phone?
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X-phone is a rumour for now. No one is sure if it's true. X if true is being built by Motorola, which recently pulled out of lot of markets couple months back. So it can't be a hit.
My guess is it might be a device for Verizon.
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From a complete business perspective, any time is good to create a new line built off of the success of an older one. In fact, its much wiser to continue that method in rapid succession rather than to delay it. If sales have plateaued I'd consider it totally possible, and applaud Google in the process.
Of course, this is all just speculation.
I personally like the designs of moto, I loved my dx-2 and every other moto phone I've owned. In my experience they have a solid feel and a sense of quality.
There are many theories out there on what this X phone is going to be but the shifting landscape esp. regarding Sammy and Tizen makes me wonder if Google is cooking something up in house (w/ Motorola).
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I've never owned a Moto phone but I hear they have good radios and battery life - both features important to me.
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my guess is that its gonna be the next nexus device and will be branded as such, but google is going to push it as a phone for consumers in addition to the developer/android lovers phone the nexus line is known for, they are already starting to do it now with the nexus 4 but they would go all out with the x phone, so my guess is it would be on all carriers and available through the play store. theres not really any evidence that it would be revealed at the google i/o, maybe the x tablet will be revealed then to replace the n7. i think it would be released closer to the holiday season like the nexus 4
i think we can all agree it will be a helluva phone regardless if you like moto or not
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I've never owned a Moto phone but I hear they have good radios and battery life - both features important to me.
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Same. Reception, battery life, and build quality are Motorola's proficiencies and are the 3 things I care about. Motorola Nexus should be killer.
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4 is an unlucky number. First the S4 pro is the last of its series and a few months later is replaced by a significantly more powerful successor(mpdecision is a joke, the radio is a joke). The Nexus 4's launch was terrible, people still can't get one and there are rumors about halted production, and we can't forget the thermal issues. Our last strike being Qualcomm's lack of open source code for the S4 Pro which practically contradicts the purpose of getting a Nexus-experience. Might as well go with Tegra since openness is lacking from both.
OvaHex said:
From a complete business perspective, any time is good to create a new line built off of the success of an older one. In fact, its much wiser to continue that method in rapid succession rather than to delay it. If sales have plateaued I'd consider it totally possible, and applaud Google in the process.
Of course, this is all just speculation.
I personally like the designs of moto, I loved my dx-2 and every other moto phone I've owned. In my experience they have a solid feel and a sense of quality.
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That would cause irreparable damage to their brand. Also a business perspective.
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Ace42 said:
4 is an unlucky number. First the S4 pro is the last of its series and a few months later is replaced by a significantly more powerful successor(mpdecision is a joke, the radio is a joke). The Nexus 4's launch was terrible, people still can't get one and there are rumors about halted production, and we can't forget the thermal issues. Our last strike being Qualcomm's lack of open source code for the S4 Pro which practically contradicts the purpose of getting a Nexus-experience. Might as well go with Tegra since openness is lacking from both.
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I loved the processor on the Galaxy Nexus. At least that one doesn't run hot while playing the game Flow.
I can't play Flow for more than 30 minutes without it being extremely discomforting because of the processor burning up.
Enhanced said:
Same. Reception, battery life, and build quality are Motorola's proficiencies and are the 3 things I care about. Motorola Nexus should be killer.
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I think all companies can make great phones if they focused on making one device a year instead of 12 like the iPhone is always going to be a top tier device but Samsung will work on an s3 along with others like galaxy victory note 2 galaxy camera plus TV's and other electronics.
The nexus and the X are closely related in terms of names so I don't think nexus will be abandoned. Nexus emphasizes on the X (jellybean boot animation for example).
They just started a number system so they can go to letters since its going to be different like the Nexus X but... Since moto is Google's company and "droid" has these dramatic commercials they may market it as the "Droid" collides with "Nexus" and the world explodes and then they show NEXUS written in droid red letters and fade out the NE and US leaving X glowing.
Lol it looks beautiful in my mind hopefully my writing expresses that.
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Google Nexus X
Not that large of a change. Similar to the scheme they adopted with Samsung. Nexus S and GALAXY Nexus. The Droid X series by Motorola was popular so if Motorola made one it would make sense as a name (or as a good speculation for a name)
It would also follow Apple's ditching of numbers with the new iPad.
I was planning on buying the nexus 4 in a few months. I shouldn't have to worry about this new nexus coming out into the end of the year right?
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It all depends on when the next generation of phones come out. I hope Google doesn't ditch their nexus 4...
Maybe they are having moto rush them for a June launch. Seeing as they have no more nexus 4s
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Euler MD said:
It all depends on when the next generation of phones come out. I hope Google doesn't ditch their nexus 4...
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I agree but to expand. I wish that they keep it a solid family. Hate to compare but like iPhone.
If I buy a nexus on a 2 year contract I expect at least the first year to get all updates. People have the iPhone 4 and aren't in a hurry to get the five because its almost the same but I was going crazy when I was stuck on GB and ICS was out.
Like the droid RAZR, RAZR maxx, RAZR HD, RAZR HD maxx, That is 4 different models that are 95% the same but yet some won't get jellybean when others do.
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I don't really see Samsung shifting to Tizen, its more of a side project.
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Maybe they are having moto rush them for a June launch. Seeing as they have no more nexus 4s
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Yeah what the heck is going on with that.
Im thinking the nexus 4 is going to be great. Even Google preview video with the guy talking about the nexus phone being the best nexus and abandoning other nexus from the past and now they "ditch it" within 3 months.
First off. Google should never have contracted with LG. You are a big company with big demands for a high profile device and lg can't make more than 5 for launch.
The N4 on Play has "sold out" tattooed on it since an hour after launch.
Samsung had the same with the s3 but it took one month then it was back in stock and never left.
I gotta say LG dropped the ball on this one.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nex...focusing-smartphones-nexus-5-included-146707/
I sure hope that they don't call the family of products "X what ever" because it almost sounds like a ripoff of apple and all of their "i products". That would be like Google referring to android as "Aos". Very lame.... Nexus just sounds better and means connection or link. That's a pretty cool name, that your product is your link to the world.
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The nexus brand has always had "X" as the logo.
My Nexus one had the X boot animation. So an X phone is still very relevant to Google and if they are going to start manufacturing their own hardware it makes sense to distance themselves from the existing nexus program.
New age.
New name.
I dont see that happening anytime soon. As someone above me said, Google just launched the Nexus family and people are beginning to recognize the name "Nexus". Why would they abandon that ?
Also, Samsung is certainly not moving away from Android. They are hitting record sales with their Galaxy line of phones and theres no point in ditching Android.
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So where is all the s4 attraction.

N4 was getting so much attraction but all fades within 6 months of release. It aged in just 2 months. Thats what samsung is good at making futurisitc devices.
I made a post that soon n4 users will feel cheated and now i guess is the time.
S4 and htc one has made it all look like an aging phone. People are happy because KLP will be supported on old hardware just because of this fact and hopefully masses will get KLP on their devices.
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qazibasit said:
N4 was getting so much attraction but all fades within 6 months of release. It aged in just 2 months. Thats what samsung is good at making futurisitc devices.
I made a post that soon n4 users will feel cheated and now i guess is the time.
S4 and htc one has made it all look like an aging phone. People are happy because KLP will be supported on old hardware just because of this fact and hopefully masses will get KLP on their devices.
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The nexus 4 is now out for ~5 months. wait another 4-6 months and the galaxy s4 and the HTC one will be old too and other devices will take their place.
get over it, technology is not stagnant.
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The nexus 4 was already old when it left the factory gate. Just like the S4 is old right now. And by the looks of it, the performance of the s4 is not much better than our n4 anyways. Considering that it will probably cost more than double what we payed...i say we win!
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+ Fire burns.
im trying to ignore the new phone fads i have gone through before & concentrate on enjoying the current nexus phone until the next one comes along.
it ends up costing me a fortune only for me to return to my nexus phone anyway. :good:
you can never keep up with the latest technology unless you buy every single phone on the market as its released
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I know "best" is subjective, but...

Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Yeah, I totally agree when it comes to performance. That is the big pro running stock android in its pure state.
There are definitely cons where it can't reach the new phones, but I'm totally OK with 'em.
Battery life is good to go trough my work day. Storage is enough (for me). Don't really need a better camera on my phone.
Yes, I'm pretty happy with my nexus and I think it will satisfy me until there the next generation this fall... :thumbup:
Yes, I am very happy with mine and I know people who have GS3, GS4 or iPhone 5 and none of them reaches the quality of my nexus 4 imo. And I am so glad to be part of this awesome community!
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Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Note 2 does not have superior hardware. It has same processor as the S3 which is quad core version of the processor in S2.
Coming to S4. Exynos version beats N4 by long margin as it's A15 processor. The US and European versions of S4 use a slightly improved version of the processor that's in N4 so it's sort of tie of you check benchmarks.
Touchwiz shows Samsung phones. Even the S4 lags badly at times.
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Since the thread is subjective, as OP stated, I'll have to say that I wouldn't trade my N4 for any other phone. I actually plan on keeping it after my contract has run out in Dec 2014. It's that good.
I'm sure I'll figure out a way to replace the battery as well.:victory:
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Since the thread is subjective, as OP stated, I'll have to say that I wouldn't trade my N4 for any other phone. I actually plan on keeping it after my contract has run out in Dec 2014. It's that good.
I'm sure I'll figure out a way to replace the battery as well.:victory:
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why..? is the battery is no good.? or is it just as a standard procedure after long usage..?
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Iphone users used to say this 3 years ago;
It just works.
Nope. As an owner of all the ones you mention...I'd say the Note 2 is the Best. Its a sweet smartphone.
Just my opinion and I currently am using a Nexus 4 as of a few days ago and I am surprised how great it runs...I agree the n4 is an excellent device though...no complaints at all (well except the small 4.7 screen).
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Note 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 belong in the dash of a Cadillac or limo roof, no need for big ass phones that don't fit normal pockets.
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
It's certainly the best bang for your buck. At $300/$350 for a device of this caliber, how could you go wrong?
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Hell yea the Nexus 4 Is still a top notch phone, Not only Price But Software as well. Love My Nexus:good::good:
yeah there's no other phone that comes closer to price/performance ratio...the price is a steal.
nexus 4 is perfect excepting the battery life...especially compared to iphone 5
Honestly for the price you pay and its excellent performance its value seems to be, personally much more than that of another Samsung device.
Yeah sure...we're in nexus 4 section on xda. I don't wanna sounds like a **** but I guess 90% of us think the same about our device. So is it really necessary to open a new thread for that?
I am sure that even after 2 years you'll find people that think this way about N4 here. Just check s2 or GN section, you'll easily find posts saying that GN is still one of the very best handsets (hardwarewise) or that S2 running Cm10.1 (with not working project butter) is buttery smooth
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No LAG!!!!! If you wanna play games buy a console,..S4 is nothing special
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Cream$ickleHJ said:
No LAG!!!!! If you wanna play games buy a console,..S4 is nothing special
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
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No better way to say it.
Lag on n⁴ is so rare its unbelievable, far less than on the iphone 4s.
I really love the nexus range now and couldn't imagine leaving unless it was for a future Note model but even then it would be a work device/second device to a nexus, the n⁴ is the first phone to enamour me since the HTC HD 7 (which still runs amazing on stock wp7.8 after like 3 or 4 years)
I previously had s3 international and if was nice and made me finally like android, I hated it pre-ics/jb and pre-quadcore as it was so horrible to see the mess and lag...
Right now though, android and nexus = pure phone heaven
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I definitely say the Note 2. Of course this crowd is biased towards aosp where as people in the note forums will say anything under 5x is a joke. I for one love the spen actually prefer twiz over aosp. I am not using gnex because I wanted the "pure Google experience" Nein! I am using this because I had to sell my note 2 because I am broke and the gnex seemed to the best suitable downgrade from the N2. Rest assured I will probably get the Note 3 come tax season. Might even buy Note 2 once the value decreased for the N3
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