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Cyanogen 8? Is this next? Or is this in the works? Also is 2.3.5 next and would it be numbered a different version when Ice Cream comes out? Also is anything coming from the devs to overclock to 800 yet?
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Also is anything coming from the devs to overclock to 800 yet?
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It's been done. So very very few phones are even stable at 800, and those that could generally performed worse in benches at 800 than at lower clocks. Many of these devices bootloop above 700.
Cyanogen 8 will not come out yet since will most likely be ice cream sandwich. I am not even sure is 2.3.5 will even come out and no the devs can not overclock this device to 800mhz because is 768 is the limit of the processor. Most people's phones do not even run that smoothly at 768 anyways. If somehow the dev found a way to overclock it to 800 (impossible btw but this is just a what if kind of statement) since the processor can not handle 800 it would just overheat the thing and cause crashes.
Also, on a side note, this should not be in the Development section. This should be in general or Q&A
This belongs in Q&A for future reference.
CM8 will be next, obviously. It will be based on Ice Cream Sandwich, so no, it won't be in development until ICS is released to AOSP so that the CM team can start using that code. 2.3.5 is an update coming out soon for the Nexus S 4G that fixes wifi and network speed, as well as adding more secure NFC for Google Wallet. It won't really affect us when it is merged into CM7. ICS is expected to be Android 4.0, but it could be 3.5 if Google decides.
There is a kernel that goes over 800Mhz, but anything over 768Mhz can be unstable on some phones. I tried it and there were no real performance gains, but battery life was a lot worse. Performance was actually worse at the highest CPU clock, in my experience. Just stick with 768Mhz. It's stable and chances are that you can get even better performance at a lower clock. I get better battery and performance at 633Mhz. It all depends on each unique phone.
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Cyanogen 8 will not come out yet since will most likely be ice cream sandwich. I am not even sure is 2.3.5 will even come out and no the devs can not overclock this device to 800mhz because is 768 is the limit of the processor. Most people's phones do not even run that smoothly at 768 anyways. If somehow the dev found a way to overclock it to 800 (impossible btw but this is just a what if kind of statement) since the processor can not handle 800 it would just overheat the thing and cause crashes.
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I lol'd at this statement. Did you not read any of the posts above you?
When i began to post there were no posts yet. They must have got posted while i was typing. So seeing as the only post at the time was the op, then yes i did read the post(s) above mine.....
There is a kernel that goes over 800Mhz, but anything over 768Mhz can be unstable on some phones. I tried it and there were no real performance gains, but battery life was a lot worse. Performance was actually worse at the highest CPU clock, in my experience. Just stick with 768Mhz. It's stable and chances are that you can get even better performance at a lower clock. I get better battery and performance at 633Mhz. It all depends on each unique phone.
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I can confirm that the Godmode kernel was able to push some phones, such as mine, past 800Mhz. Although I had a faster processor speed, my battery would drain incredibly fast as well as overheat. Even though I never hit a bootloop with the kernel, the battery life, overheating, and loss of performance kept me away. Sacrificing too much for having a faster processor speed. Normally I overclock to about 729Mhz and have great battery life, speed and performance in conjunction with a min of 19Mhz and a smartass governor.
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dastin1015 said:
I can confirm that the Godmode kernel was able to push some phones, such as mine, past 800Mhz. Although I had a faster processor speed, my battery would drain incredibly fast as well as overheat. Even though I never hit a bootloop with the kernel, the battery life, overheating, and loss of performance kept me away. Sacrificing too much for having a faster processor speed. Normally I overclock to about 729Mhz and have great battery life, speed and performance in conjunction with a min of 19Mhz and a smartass governor.
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Thanks. I am glad someone at least confirmed it. I never knew about the godmode kernel as ive only been here for a little bit. Sorry for misinformed post about their not being an 800mhz kernel. As I can see, i was wrong, but also I was correct in saying that the processor can not handle it....sometimes
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Thanks. I am glad someone at least confirmed it. I never knew about the godmode kernel as ive only been here for a little bit. Sorry for misinformed post about their not being an 800mhz kernel. As I can see, i was wrong, but also I was correct in saying that the processor can not handle it....sometimes
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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For some reason my phone never works well with higher clock speeds no matter what rom or kernel i use. I get my best results at 710-352 performance.
In before bierce gives birth over ANOTHER question being in the dev section
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rizdog23 said:
For some reason my phone never works well with higher clock speeds no matter what rom or kernel i use. I get my best results at 710-352 performance.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've noticed is that newer Hero's that were sold with Eclair as opposed to the original Donut, when I bought mine, are not able to reach those higher processor speeds past 691Mhz.
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i bought mine at radio shack back in september and it was still on 1.5 and ive never been able to get over 768mhz without it freezing and bootlooping its different with every hero.
i stay at 352-691 ondemand and thats plenty fast for me
Mine was running 1.5 also and it will run fine at 768 but battery life suffers so I usually run at 352/710 and battery and performance are good (depends on rom kernel)
Where can I get the godmode kernel ....
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I actually got mine two weeks after it came out.....so i mean it could just be that this phone is dead now. I never had a refurb or anything. I got it wet once but it got repaired. I've only had this one the whole time. Do you think that is the issue?
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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Hey rubyknight,
just wondering why 19? Ive seen people do that but can the processor really ever do anything at 19? if so, doesnt it affect stuff like wake. Im trying it now just to see for myself. Ive been playing with a really high min value between 480 and 576 with the high at 748 and it actually doesnt only seems to affect battery life a little, both on the .29 and .35 kernels on jaybobs roms and on OMFGB.
Thanks
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Hey rubyknight,
just wondering why 19? Ive seen people do that but can the processor really ever do anything at 19? if so, doesnt it affect stuff like wake. Im trying it now just to see for myself. Ive been playing with a really high min value between 480 and 576 with the high at 748 and it actually doesnt only seems to affect battery life a little, both on the .29 and .35 kernels on jaybobs roms and on OMFGB.
Thanks
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It depends on the cpu governor that you use.
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It depends on the cpu governor that you use.
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so update, ive run it at 19/768 on demand all day and after 11hrs 13 min its at 60% thats not bad for my phone! and there was almost no performance difference. Just the slightest UI lag... this is on jaybobs 7/8 with the .29 kernel, with background data off. And my regular usage which is not a lot. but for me its good. i wish I had tried it ages ago.
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so update, ive run it at 19/768 on demand all day and after 11hrs 13 min its at 60% thats not bad for my phone! and there was almost no performance difference. Just the slightest UI lag... this is on jaybobs 7/8 with the .29 kernel, with background data off. And my regular usage which is not a lot. but for me its good. i wish I had tried it ages ago.
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I believe that you can set the ramp up frequency and that may help with the lag. Setcpu, advanced settings, I think?
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hey everybode!
i wanted to know i have rocket rom and i want to use setcpu to overclock my kernel
and sebastian is max to 1400 is thers good kernel that i can play with it till 1700mghz or 1900?
but it need to be stable
Abyss goes to 1700. My CPU can't take it, sadly
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The stability is dependant on your hardware; some chips can only overclock to 1500Mhz and some can overclock all the way to 1900Mhz. It is not something the kernel has a say over.
Don't all of the notes have the same cpu? Why can some be overclocked and others not?
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Don't all of the notes have the same cpu? Why can some be overclocked and others not?
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They all can be overclocked, but how much is a different thing altogether. It's quite simple really, not every chip manufactured is of equal quality; some chips have more imperfections. The more imperfections the less it can be overclocked before it becomes unstable. It's the same thing as on PCs, too.
Stable is it when you do nothing and use it in originally form. Overcklocking need more Power more power is less time you enjoj your note!
Generally these chips are made to tolerate a certain speed, and because of variability, the manufacturer drops the speed tolerance to ensure overall quality. Some will still be able to manage 1500, 1700, or even 1900 (although rarely, I'd say). Just about all of them tolerate 1400, so very few are defective at the stated tolerance. With 5 million, you will get a few, however.
This is one of those rare occasions when statistics have a benefit in the real world!
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Generally these chips are made to tolerate a certain speed, and because of variability, the manufacturer drops the speed tolerance to ensure overall quality. Some will still be able to manage 1500, 1700, or even 1900 (although rarely, I'd say). Just about all of them tolerate 1400, so very few are defective at the stated tolerance. With 5 million, you will get a few, however.
This is one of those rare occasions when statistics have a benefit in the real world!
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I will keep mine at stock speeds because ignorance is bliss
bubu23 said:
hey everybode!
i wanted to know i have rocket rom and i want to use setcpu to overclock my kernel
and sebastian is max to 1400 is thers good kernel that i can play with it till 1700mghz or 1900?
but it need to be stable
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There are many out there that will let you overclock. Search the Android development forum.
Like most, I have flashed heaps of times, probably at least four or five times a week when I first got this wonderful Note, but in the last month or so have only been tempted to stray three or four times. Personally Franco 6 is best for me, because I favour battery life and stability rather than overclocking (1400MHz is not bad as a standard!!)
I would encourage you to try a few for a few days, as long as you backup often you should have a great experience!
Are all kernels capable of overclocking?
Is there one that overclocks the best?
How do you tell how high you can go?
Do you jusy keep overclocking until the NOte stops working?
If so, there must be a fine line.
jeffs99 said:
Are all kernels capable of overclocking?
Is there one that overclocks the best?
How do you tell how high you can go?
Do you jusy keep overclocking until the NOte stops working?
If so, there must be a fine line.
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Stock kernel isn't capable of overclocking.
One way to tell is to download things like SetCPU which detects the range of the clockspeed. Another way is to simply read the description of the kernel thread.
How high your phone can go is an individual thing. You need to overclock in slight increments (say 50mhz at a time) and run a stability test to see if the phone crashes or not.
You DO NOT pull the slider all the way to 1.9 ghz and "see" if anything happens. If you fry your CPU, do not come to us for help.
This is why I don't like overclocking, it's a waste of time to run the stability tests, etc.
In summary, you need to raise it a little bit, and run stability tests and repeat the process until your phone crashes. At that point, you'd know the last safe-stable clockspeed that your CPU can take.
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Stock kernel isn't capable of overclocking.
One way to tell is to download things like SetCPU which detects the range of the clockspeed. Another way is to simply read the description of the kernel thread.
How high your phone can go is an individual thing. You need to overclock in slight increments (say 50mhz at a time) and run a stability test to see if the phone crashes or not.
You DO NOT pull the slider all the way to 1.9 ghz and "see" if anything happens. If you fry your CPU, do not come to us for help.
This is why I don't like overclocking, it's a waste of time to run the stability tests, etc.
In summary, you need to raise it a little bit, and run stability tests and repeat the process until your phone crashes. At that point, you'd know the last safe-stable clockspeed that your CPU can take.
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Thanks!
What do you recommend for a good stability test?
I'm on franco.kernel v10 and OC to 1600 using Tegrak. Tegrak runs the stability tests automatically and reverts to stock 1400 if unstable or a reboot occurs.
I tried 1700 but Note rebooted after about 2 minutes. Booted right back up at 1400 with no problems. Re-set to 1600 and running smoothly.
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Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
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Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
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Yes, those are just numbers .. but still i was puzzled if it was happening after installing the update.... otherwise the phone is fine. except for the known heating problem :cyclops:
LitoNi said:
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
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But the fact that Antutu is showing he has a 1.2 Ghz processor, for me is a reason to worry. Even if the numbers are lower, it should show 1.5Ghz.
So, maybe there is some overheating problem on his phone.
Antutu has recently been updated - refer the comments on the Play Store. Seems other people with different phones getting high scores before the update and then lower scores post update.
I think this is the solution to the problem...... Mind you I just ran Antutu and got 20656
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Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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When the XZ heats up, the processor throttles down. That's why it shows you the 1.2Ghz.
mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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AnTuTu is kinda generalization of hardware accessibility and performance
So i think it almost depend on Kernel, after that update all kernels updated to Feb. kernel (a kernel with different date)
and Sony said will update xperia Z to 4.2.2 with 3.6 (*nix) kernel
and it can increase performance and higher AnTuTu benchmark
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mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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As far as I am concerned, I think these are all crap in reality. Because you can run these benchmarks over and over again and keep getting different results, even after disabling things like autosync etc.
In theory the phone should run benchmarks faster when it is colder, but when I ran these tests they were much worse.
My phone didn't change much after updates for bench mark scores.
Phones do have a thermo throttling of the CPU to stay within the SAFE temperature ranges, so the 1.2GHz will most likely have something to do with this.
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As far as I am concerned, I think these are all crap in reality. Because you can run these benchmarks over and over again and keep getting different results, even after disabling things like autosync etc.
In theory the phone should run benchmarks faster when it is colder, but when I ran these tests they were much worse.
My phone didn't change much after updates for bench mark scores.
Phones do have a thermo throttling of the CPU to stay within the SAFE temperature ranges, so the 1.2GHz will most likely have something to do with this.
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Yes, indeed the benchmark programs depend on many factors.. i had factory restored the Rom from Sony Pc companion, and again the first time i run, it shows me 20k number.. and then it gradually decreases when i run again. i wonder if its the same with other phones which have the same processor.
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Yes, indeed the benchmark programs depend on many factors.. i had factory restored the Rom from Sony Pc companion, and again the first time i run, it shows me 20k number.. and then it gradually decreases when i run again. i wonder if its the same with other phones which have the same processor.
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Well ran it just after you mentioned this got 18000, next run 20170 and nothing really can have changed between those runs, and that is a significant difference
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Well ran it just after you mentioned this got 18000, next run 20170 and nothing really can have changed between those runs, and that is a significant difference
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does it show the same processor speed in two runs?
so your e-p***s just got smaller after update ?
Jealous cuz u don't have one. !
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does it show the same processor speed in two runs?
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Surely did, phone is always really fast, so I do not believe these benchmarks. Maybe I was running on just 3 cylinders (cores)
In other words, don't trust benchmarks
harfot said:
In other words, don't trust benchmarks
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partly true.. but it the difference is way too much with others scores then points to a problem in the device...
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partly true.. but it the difference is way too much with others scores then points to a problem in the device...
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Don't think so, every device I have used has done the same thing, find it impossible to believe that it is a problem device. The problem is most likely to do with the way that a phone operates, if the memory does a garbage collection event while you are doing a test, is going to throw a ridiculous result
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Pretty much.
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Don't think so, every device I have used has done the same thing, find it impossible to believe that it is a problem device. The problem is most likely to do with the way that a phone operates, if the memory does a garbage collection event while you are doing a test, is going to throw a ridiculous result
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Pretty much.
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Greetings,
This driver is obtained from Qualcomm's 07 Aug 14 drivers for "Qualcomm Adreno 3xx GPU on Nexus 4, 5 & 7 devices running Google Android 4.4.4 KitKat".
All credits go to the folks at Qualcomm for making the developer version of these lib files available for us to play with.
This is for testing purposes only. Please don't flash without backing up first and then start screaming if something happens to your phone!
The package only contains files for Adreno 300 and 330. I cooked the packaged to be flashable on our SM-G900T or any SM-G900 with the Adreno 330 chipset.
I'm on a "XtreStoLite_G900T_ROM_v1.3_UVU1BNG3" ROM, which is a super clean/slim version of the stock rom. This is also Android 4.4.2, my AnTuTu benchmark results dropped from 37400 to 35800 after flashing this package.
I'm requesting someone with a KitKat 4.4.4 ROM to test this and report back their before and after benchmarks.
I appreciate your feedback,
Hmm, interesting.. I'm only on 4.4.2 or I would help out..
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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And this means....... I'm sorry but I don't understand the purpose... Is this supposed to make Tw snappier?
Thanks in advance!
It is updating the video (graphics) drivers. It probably improves the touchWiz performance as well (don't have evidence to support this), but what i noticed was a huge performace increase in the 3D graphics score. This will make games run alot smooter and more efficiently.
To clarify, this file resembles how your Mac/PC has a video card with say NViDIA or ATi video cards and they have their own driver releases. Our phones graphic chipset is designed by Qualcomm and it gets its own drivers as well. Hope I answered your question, and didn't make it worse!
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
Tried flashing the update and ran into a couple random fcs for a few apps. Nothing device-breaking or anything, but I also didn't notice any real difference in performance or framerate in games. But I do appreciate you posting this, I'm always up for trying a little experimentation on my device to find something new. Thanks man.
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
AlkaliV2 said:
Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
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Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
Slicktune said:
Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
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I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
AlkaliV2 said:
I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
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Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
And once I flash this, can I go back or will it erase the update once I flash a different rom?
Thanks in advance!!
Slicktune said:
Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
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I'll keep you posted. I wasn't impressed overall with it's performance in Touchwiz on battery life with the CPU underclocked, so I am branching out to a more AOSP-like build. I'll keep you posted to what I find out.
Commodore 64 said:
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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This maybe off topic, but does this works on other devices like Z2 or HTC M8 using the same GPU?
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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Lower score, what about gaming?
Slicktune said:
This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
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You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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HD-man said:
Lower score, what about gaming?
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You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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AlkaliV2 said:
You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
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I figured since the OP stated he got less points in Antutu, I would go ahead and use the same app and test to compare...
F*ck me right?
Regardless, I don't notice anything different either, my stats are in the sig.
Lets see who gets biggest benchmark score on our I9305:
mine highest is 21857
which Rom???
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which Rom???
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mine was on community rom. But doenst matter, wanna see whos got the biggest score, no matter what rom
all maxed out i can reach 22130 but it's totally useless so i configure Agni to get the best battery @1200-200 with -80 uv and -75 for GPU all these with ZEN Scheduler i get 18865 on antutu , not so bad and i can get way more battery without any perf loss
i got 25586 on latest s5 rom and boefla settings on normal lol