Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
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LitoNi said:
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
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Yes, those are just numbers .. but still i was puzzled if it was happening after installing the update.... otherwise the phone is fine. except for the known heating problem :cyclops:
LitoNi said:
Isn't it affected by the numbers if apps you have on your phone? And it's always better to do a restart and run the bench mark right after before running any other apps.
And btw, those numbers means nothing. Don't get hooked onto those apps, it doesn't mean your phone is any slower than others.
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But the fact that Antutu is showing he has a 1.2 Ghz processor, for me is a reason to worry. Even if the numbers are lower, it should show 1.5Ghz.
So, maybe there is some overheating problem on his phone.
Antutu has recently been updated - refer the comments on the Play Store. Seems other people with different phones getting high scores before the update and then lower scores post update.
I think this is the solution to the problem...... Mind you I just ran Antutu and got 20656
mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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When the XZ heats up, the processor throttles down. That's why it shows you the 1.2Ghz.
mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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AnTuTu is kinda generalization of hardware accessibility and performance
So i think it almost depend on Kernel, after that update all kernels updated to Feb. kernel (a kernel with different date)
and Sony said will update xperia Z to 4.2.2 with 3.6 (*nix) kernel
and it can increase performance and higher AnTuTu benchmark
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mubeen.asim said:
Antutu benchmarks score gets reduced after installing the latest update from Sony.
i have run the benchmark soon after unboxing the device.. and it gave me a score of 20707..
and there was an update from Sony which after installing for some reason locks the processor speed when its heated up.. when i run the benchmarks now it gives me a score of 16080 with a processor speed of 1.2 Ghz while the processors actual speed is 1.5 Ghz.
even i did a factory reset and tried running the benchmarks.. but still the same results in 16k-17 window..
is any one else facing this issue after installing the update
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As far as I am concerned, I think these are all crap in reality. Because you can run these benchmarks over and over again and keep getting different results, even after disabling things like autosync etc.
In theory the phone should run benchmarks faster when it is colder, but when I ran these tests they were much worse.
My phone didn't change much after updates for bench mark scores.
Phones do have a thermo throttling of the CPU to stay within the SAFE temperature ranges, so the 1.2GHz will most likely have something to do with this.
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As far as I am concerned, I think these are all crap in reality. Because you can run these benchmarks over and over again and keep getting different results, even after disabling things like autosync etc.
In theory the phone should run benchmarks faster when it is colder, but when I ran these tests they were much worse.
My phone didn't change much after updates for bench mark scores.
Phones do have a thermo throttling of the CPU to stay within the SAFE temperature ranges, so the 1.2GHz will most likely have something to do with this.
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Yes, indeed the benchmark programs depend on many factors.. i had factory restored the Rom from Sony Pc companion, and again the first time i run, it shows me 20k number.. and then it gradually decreases when i run again. i wonder if its the same with other phones which have the same processor.
mubeen.asim said:
Yes, indeed the benchmark programs depend on many factors.. i had factory restored the Rom from Sony Pc companion, and again the first time i run, it shows me 20k number.. and then it gradually decreases when i run again. i wonder if its the same with other phones which have the same processor.
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Well ran it just after you mentioned this got 18000, next run 20170 and nothing really can have changed between those runs, and that is a significant difference
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Well ran it just after you mentioned this got 18000, next run 20170 and nothing really can have changed between those runs, and that is a significant difference
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does it show the same processor speed in two runs?
so your e-p***s just got smaller after update ?
Jealous cuz u don't have one. !
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does it show the same processor speed in two runs?
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Surely did, phone is always really fast, so I do not believe these benchmarks. Maybe I was running on just 3 cylinders (cores)
In other words, don't trust benchmarks
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In other words, don't trust benchmarks
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partly true.. but it the difference is way too much with others scores then points to a problem in the device...
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partly true.. but it the difference is way too much with others scores then points to a problem in the device...
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Don't think so, every device I have used has done the same thing, find it impossible to believe that it is a problem device. The problem is most likely to do with the way that a phone operates, if the memory does a garbage collection event while you are doing a test, is going to throw a ridiculous result
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Pretty much.
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Don't think so, every device I have used has done the same thing, find it impossible to believe that it is a problem device. The problem is most likely to do with the way that a phone operates, if the memory does a garbage collection event while you are doing a test, is going to throw a ridiculous result
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Hi everyone. I have never rooted my Bionic, but have always been disappointed in my performance. I bought it on launch day and just stuck with it, and it has been a huge disappointment ever since.
Well, I think I may have come across a reason for the disappointment. I ran the benchmark test Quadrant.
My first run? 1700.
My second? 1200.
I said, whoa, hold on a minute, people were getting 2200-2500 on stock when the thing launched.
So I did a factory reset, and after the last three runs of Quadrant I'm getting about 1400.
Something is seriously wrong. I installed CPU spy and nothing seems too out of the ordinary. Yet these scores are worse than the Nexus S, and that's just crazy. I know the Bionic is a better phone than that.
Is there a hardware problem with my phone causing these low scores? What do you think I could do to fix this?
Which version are you on?
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Which version are you on?
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5.9.905, which is the latest OTA firmware.
I just ran it and got 1465, and I've noticed that my Bionic has gone to hell lately. Poor battery life and overall poor performance. I would love help with this!
Edit: Using CPU Spy I found that when my phone isn't in deep sleep, it spends the large majority of its time at 300mhz, almost no time at 600 or 800mhz, and a small amount of the at 1000mhz that is significantly less than the time at 300mhz. Is the problem that my Bionic for some reason is getting stuck at a lower speed?
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5.9.905, which is the latest OTA firmware.
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Well there are 3 things that could be contributing to this; your microSD, your choice of apps, and/or not using your built-in task manager to stop apps that are wasting memory.
But it's worth noting that Quadrant Standard won't show you the individual scores, so it is a poor tool for diagnosing problems. I suggest that you also not go by other peoples scores. They may be using mods that you aren't.
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Well there are 3 things that could be contributing to this; your microSD, your choice of apps, and/or not using your built-in task manager to stop apps that are wasting memory.
But it's worth noting that Quadrant Standard won't show you the individual scores, so it is a poor tool for diagnosing problems. I suggest that you also not go by other peoples scores. They may be using mods that you aren't.
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As I said in my post, I did a factory reset. Everything was wiped off the internal storage. No rogue apps. The only thing installed was the benchmark itself. I also tried the benchmark without the microSD to no avail.
And also, the scores I have read have been from day one purchasers of Bionics on stock. I ignore anything that does not specify that it was achieved on stock, and everything I have seen has been 2000+.
There is no reason my Bionic should be scoring 1400 and lower.
You should root your phone, it gives you things you wouldnt have dreamed of!
Don't know what to tell you...just got a 2683 in Quadrant on. 2333 ICS leak on my Bionic (though mine was bumped to.1.2Ghz with the leak).
Total 2683
CPU 3770
Mem 3008
I/O 3145
2D 1000
3D 2414
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As I said in my post, I did a factory reset. Everything was wiped off the internal storage. No rogue apps. The only thing installed was the benchmark itself. I also tried the benchmark without the microSD to no avail.
And also, the scores I have read have been from day one purchasers of Bionics on stock. I ignore anything that does not specify that it was achieved on stock, and everything I have seen has been 2000+.
There is no reason my Bionic should be scoring 1400 and lower.
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After the factory reset, when you logged in to your account, did you log into more than one?
Also, was it by chance downloading things like mail in the background? Try disabling all sync and even putting it in airplane mode and then see.
Also, how much charge on your battery? Remember that stock BIONIC settings also have that delicious night mode settings as well....
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So, i'm getting a really low 3D Mark score for a "gaming" device like this, i think that Nvidia do something wrong with the Tegra 3 GPU, i got it running at 650Mhz and i get like 3000 points... other devices on the same range get a lot better scores... what to do to get better 3D on our 4X?
Well this is my score...I'm not sure our much other devices get, but from the results our O4X is in the same range as the Note 2...so I guess that those results aren't that bad...
Btw I used the official CM10.1.0 rom with stock cm kernel...
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Well this is my score...I'm not sure our much other devices get, but from the results our O4X is in the same range as the Note 2...so I guess that those results aren't that bad...
Btw I used the official CM10.1.0 rom with stock cm kernel...
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i think that is a better score that i do have with V20C and iodak kernel, i will try another kernel and compare...
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So, i'm getting a really low 3D Mark score for a "gaming" device like this, i think that Nvidia do something wrong with the Tegra 3 GPU, i got it running at 650Mhz and i get like 3000 points... other devices on the same range get a lot better scores... what to do to get better 3D on our 4X?
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Are you running anything else? I ran at stock speeds (no overclock anything) and got 4100-4200 on five straight runs. I have no idea what a normal score for the Tegra 3 is supposed to be.
I get same result. My kernel nothing touched from defaults.
I think it is ok all tegra 3 devices get similar scores one x+ gets about 3800.
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for benchmarking, stock rom > aosp rom > cm based roms > other roms, from my experience. even when you bring custom kernels to the table, it's the same.
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f.e., on quadrant, stock with custom kernels could go around 6100, aosp rom we have went to 5500, cm based went up to 4800, while others went up to 4500.
Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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we have like four available kernels for stock, try all four and see which one runs the fastest. as for mc4, i could swear i saw people reporting playing that with no lag... strange
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Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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Have you tried uninstalling all these overclock softwares and testing without them?
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we have like four available kernels for stock, try all four and see which one runs the fastest. as for mc4, i could swear i saw people reporting playing that with no lag... strange
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Maybe the problem is that i use the full graphics modded APK... and not the tegra 3 that i bought via playstore... also, Dead space lags too... mabye a kernel related problem, i will flash the rom and kernel again and see...
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Maybe the problem is that i use the full graphics modded APK... and not the tegra 3 that i bought via playstore... also, Dead space lags too... mabye a kernel related problem, i will flash the rom and kernel again and see...
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yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone. didn't try dead space either, so cant really tell. i did try vice city and nfs, they ran quite good on stock for me.
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yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone. didn't try dead space either, so cant really tell. i did try vice city and nfs, they ran quite good on stock for me.
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Well i will download again from google play and come back and tell
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yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone.
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Does it? 3DMark benchmarks disagree.
I did manage to reproduce the OP's results though. I installed TegraOverclock and suddenly my 3DMark results were the same as the ones he posted. If I uninstall it I get the attached image.
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Does it? 3DMark benchmarks disagree.
I did manage to reproduce the OP's results though. I installed TegraOverclock and suddenly my 3DMark results were the same as the ones he posted. If I uninstall it I get the attached image.
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average results for nexus 7 are better than those for o4x, unfortunately.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LG+Optimus+4X+HD/review
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average results for nexus 7 are better than those for o4x, unfortunately.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LG+Optimus+4X+HD/review
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You might wish to see the image I posted on a non-overclocked phone.
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You might wish to see the image I posted on a non-overclocked phone.
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and i can post my image of benchmark with 3200 score, overclocked . since my score is as valid as yours, we might as well take the average that's on the website - and the average number says that nexus7 performs better than o4x.
on the other hand, i dont game much these days, and the games i do run, run well enough. so, it's just a benchmark, a number; however i have expected tegra3 in this phone to have higher number than tablet with practically identical chip in it
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and i can post my image of benchmark with 3200 score, overclocked . since my score is as valid as yours, we might as well take the average that's on the website - and the average number says that nexus7 performs better than o4x.
on the other hand, i dont game much these days, and the games i do run, run well enough. so, it's just a benchmark, a number; however i have expected tegra3 in this phone to have higher number than tablet with practically identical chip in it
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While it is indeed just a number, it does actually measure something. Unless my configuration is somehow exploiting it specifically to achieve those scores, you might wish to see why you underscore so much and fix it. The phones are identical after all, and no one is talking about fancy coolers or the like as exists in PCs.
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While it is indeed just a number, it does actually measure something. Unless my configuration is somehow exploiting it specifically to achieve those scores, you might wish to see why you underscore so much and fix it. The phones are identical after all, and no one is talking about fancy coolers or the like as exists in PCs.
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I did some testing, and may have the answer for you. The vanilla iodak sets the CPU to 1.7GHz and the 3D and 2D GPU to 520MHz, all of which are maximum values, hence the very good 3DMark scores. If you use an app such as TegraOverclock and set those values you should get the same scores or at least very close to them. I did notice that any attempt to apply an overclock to the GPU was instantly rejected. If I tried to set it to 600MHz it was immediately set at... 300MHz, so as far as I can tell, 520 is the highest possible.
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I did some testing, and may have the answer for you. The vanilla iodak sets the CPU to 1.7GHz and the 3D and 2D GPU to 520MHz, all of which are maximum values, hence the very good 3DMark scores. If you use an app such as TegraOverclock and set those values you should get the same scores or at least very close to them. I did notice that any attempt to apply an overclock to the GPU was instantly rejected. If I tried to set it to 600MHz it was immediately set at... 300MHz, so as far as I can tell, 520 is the highest possible.
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it puts to 300mhz because is the minimun, in 520mhz the minimun is 200...
Edit: flashed back V20C, getting 3570 stock, i will flash Iodak again.. and test... without donwloading tegra overclock...
Edit again, this is with iodak v6 stock settings it seems that thegra overclock app reduces the performance of our devices...
Stock kernel has its gpu running at 200mhz base, scaling up to 416. Custom kernels can increase that, which leads to higher scores. I got 4k by increasing gpu to 520mhz. I don't see how just having tegra oc installed could break anything
Greetings,
This driver is obtained from Qualcomm's 07 Aug 14 drivers for "Qualcomm Adreno 3xx GPU on Nexus 4, 5 & 7 devices running Google Android 4.4.4 KitKat".
All credits go to the folks at Qualcomm for making the developer version of these lib files available for us to play with.
This is for testing purposes only. Please don't flash without backing up first and then start screaming if something happens to your phone!
The package only contains files for Adreno 300 and 330. I cooked the packaged to be flashable on our SM-G900T or any SM-G900 with the Adreno 330 chipset.
I'm on a "XtreStoLite_G900T_ROM_v1.3_UVU1BNG3" ROM, which is a super clean/slim version of the stock rom. This is also Android 4.4.2, my AnTuTu benchmark results dropped from 37400 to 35800 after flashing this package.
I'm requesting someone with a KitKat 4.4.4 ROM to test this and report back their before and after benchmarks.
I appreciate your feedback,
Hmm, interesting.. I'm only on 4.4.2 or I would help out..
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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Commodore 64 said:
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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And this means....... I'm sorry but I don't understand the purpose... Is this supposed to make Tw snappier?
Thanks in advance!
It is updating the video (graphics) drivers. It probably improves the touchWiz performance as well (don't have evidence to support this), but what i noticed was a huge performace increase in the 3D graphics score. This will make games run alot smooter and more efficiently.
To clarify, this file resembles how your Mac/PC has a video card with say NViDIA or ATi video cards and they have their own driver releases. Our phones graphic chipset is designed by Qualcomm and it gets its own drivers as well. Hope I answered your question, and didn't make it worse!
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
Tried flashing the update and ran into a couple random fcs for a few apps. Nothing device-breaking or anything, but I also didn't notice any real difference in performance or framerate in games. But I do appreciate you posting this, I'm always up for trying a little experimentation on my device to find something new. Thanks man.
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
AlkaliV2 said:
Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
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Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
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Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
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I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
AlkaliV2 said:
I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
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Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
And once I flash this, can I go back or will it erase the update once I flash a different rom?
Thanks in advance!!
Slicktune said:
Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
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I'll keep you posted. I wasn't impressed overall with it's performance in Touchwiz on battery life with the CPU underclocked, so I am branching out to a more AOSP-like build. I'll keep you posted to what I find out.
Commodore 64 said:
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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This maybe off topic, but does this works on other devices like Z2 or HTC M8 using the same GPU?
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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Lower score, what about gaming?
Slicktune said:
This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
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You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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HD-man said:
Lower score, what about gaming?
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You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
92drls said:
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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AlkaliV2 said:
You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
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I figured since the OP stated he got less points in Antutu, I would go ahead and use the same app and test to compare...
F*ck me right?
Regardless, I don't notice anything different either, my stats are in the sig.
hallo everyone!
i overclocked my phone with Tegrak ,benchmarked with Antutu and i get only 10741 points. on stock i get 15540.
but the phone looks faster than before.
why? whats the problem? :S
im the newest cm 11
thanks .
culiminator said:
whats the problem?
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The user in front of the device
ThaiDai said:
The user in front of the device
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sure you are the best , thanks for nothing! -.-"
i know what im doing..
culiminator said:
i know what im doing..
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No, you don't.
You got a worse score because with the phone overclocked, the phone heated up during the benchmark and it had to limit the CPU or GPU resulting in worse performance and hence you got a worse score.
Don't overclock the device, there's a reason it wasn't overclocked to begin with.
And so the benchmark myth goes on and on... The way you FEEL about your device's performance should be your reference instead of counting on some apps which in turn is affected by many factors that could produce inaccurate results.
Hello!
I just ran an antutu benchmark on my note and the score is far too low for this phone!!
Any ideas on what's going on?
I'm on stock Oreo BTW.
Skulldron said:
Hello!
I just ran an antutu benchmark on my note and the score is far too low for this phone!!
Any ideas on what's going on?
I'm on stock Oreo BTW.
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If your phone was warm when you ran the test, that will effect the results.
Not used Antutu for a while but there should be an imformation tab, there you can see the battery temperature amongst other details. Try running it again when the battery is around 26-28c.
Hopefully then it will be a normal result.
Just ran Antutu and got 203k on stock Oreo.
These benchmarks are a complete waste of time. Honestly.
kradcliffe said:
These benchmarks are a complete waste of time. Honestly.
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That actually maybe true considering Samsung uses DVFS to fake benchmarks
Also it was warm. One more thing. The benchmark was run at QHD. Does it make a difference.
Benchmarks do not reflect how the device behaves in real life, the really important thing is how your device performs in everyday circumstances or in intense scenarios