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[Q] Does anyone have the note and nexus?

Only had my note for about 24 hours, coming from a gs2.
The only thing bumming me out is that I can't one hand this guy at all. Is the nexus that much easier to hold with one hand if at all?

I have the Note and Galaxy Nexus w/ ICS. The nexus is much easier for one handed but the keyboard S***s. I have installed other keyboards but will not change. Nexus nice but needs some tweaking, also a lot of menus on the top of the screen which is a bummer for one handed. Kinda like the Iphone, always needing to go to the top of the screen which I dislike. Hook up a Platronics HD head phone and you will be surprised what can be done over bluetooth, ie respond to a text while the phone stays in your pocket
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Bluetooth on the NOTE

So your saying because ICS lacks the menu key, the apps put the menu key functionality in the top right of the screen? I can JUST reach that corner on my GS2's 4.2, there is no way I will be able to with a 4.65.
Not having both devices in hand, I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to send my note back for a nexus. Any other thoughts you have in the "vs" department? Does the nexus feel more like a gs2 in its pocketablity or is it just a little smaller feeling than the note?

doing an OVA update on the Nexus. Checkout update and then post a pic of the nexus screen vrs S ll screen on the menu issue.

Looks like if you can swipe task bar easily then no problem getting to the three squares (menu).

I have both, Nexus obviously much better for one-handed use if that is the main criteria.

Thanks for the replys guys. I had a couple more questions.
Does text on the nexus websites (like engadget) appear sharper when zoomed all the way out because of the higher dPi?
Is the curved glass not much of a advantage?
How much lighter is the nexus? My note feels like a brick next to the gs2.
Can you see the same pentile matrix grid effect (if that what it is) on solid colors?
Do you live in Portland and I can come compare
If you had to pick one device to be your daily driver until the galaxy s3 comes out what would it be? I've sold my gs2 so can keep or return my note for a nexus. I really can't decide. I remote desktop a ton and the pen is kind of a letdown for that, its almost too responsive and bounces around making right clicking or even double clicking difficult. I find myself pinch zooming and finger taping anyway.
Thanks for any input you have, I'm running out of time to decide if I want to return my nite for a nexus.

sportedwood said:
Thanks for the replys guys. I had a couple more questions.
Does text on the nexus websites (like engadget) appear sharper when zoomed all the way out because of the higher dPi?
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Yes, but obviously it's a lot smaller than on the Note at that zoom so readability difference between them is moot for me.
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Is the curved glass not much of a advantage?
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No advantage, I love how it looks but in practice doesn't add anything.
sportedwood said:
How much lighter is the nexus? My note feels like a brick next to the gs2.
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A lot lighter. Goes without saying really, difference feels similar to the SGSII to Note difference (Nexus slightly heavier than the SGSII, but basically similar).
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Can you see the same pentile matrix grid
effect (if that what it is) on solid colors?
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I don't think it's pentile, I think it's all SAMOLED screens, the SGSII has the same uneven tone on solid colours (particularly noticeable on lower brightness settings and grey backgrounds). At any rate the Nexus definitely has this.
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Do you live in Portland and I can come compare
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No and no, sorry
sportedwood said:
If you had to pick one device to be your daily driver until the galaxy s3 comes out what would it be? I've sold my gs2 so can keep or return my note for a nexus. I really can't decide. I remote desktop a ton and the pen is kind of a letdown for that, its almost too responsive and bounces around making right clicking or even double clicking difficult. I find myself pinch zooming and finger taping anyway.
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Note for me, Nexus has too many compromises for my personal usage (no expandable memory, camera not very good, worse GPU/CPU, worse GPS), but depending on your needs it may suit you.

Nexus 4 Display (Spec for spec the best) Just needs calibrating... help?

Edit: My Display Solution is : FauxClock. It has gamma correction and color tweaking. It's a paid app but it's inexpensive and def with it.
You can follow Faux123 work on the Nexus for kernel development as well as it rocks but not necessary for the color/gamma tweaks.
His thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008222
Hey Nexus 4 Community,
I've read endless articles about how the Nexus 4 display is inferior to the iPhone and is bland and gamma raised way too high. I'm a photo-enthusiast, tech fanatic, and work in the field of mobile apps. With that said, I'd have to agree that the screen is amazing but has many short falls that it quiet frankly shouldn't.
I've dealt with screens from the old Palm Pilot Days (For those of you who remember the Treo ), TFT screens, Amoled (Or Super Amoled as Samsung so articulately imaged, and now IPS. I've dealt with high PPI's, to well... BlackBerry's. In the end, and after my last Galaxy Nexus... I took the screen out of the box and I was blown away with the sharpness and detail. Once that wow factor subsided I then got hit with the "Ummm..." factor of the washed out effect. I was one of the few that got mine from T-Mobile. I've experienced Google in the past shifting colors on releases and it's very frustrating to say the least.
I did some reading-up on tests and internet reviews and apparently our phone (the Nexus 4) actually has a better contrast rating and blacker blacks then even the iPhone 5. But, that doesn't make sense because I have an iPhone 5 (well, my girlfriend does actually) and I "went in" on details and video's to see which screen looked better. The colors in comparison on the Nexus 4, were off. The colors seemed so much more rich on the iPhone 5 as well. Now, trust me, I'm no iSheep. However I do appreciate quality. My Digital lenses (particularly my 85mm 1.4) in my Nikon collection afford me the ability to truly appreciate the low light shooting and quality of what true imagery can render in a photo.
It frustrates me to no end that Google hasn't gotten it right yet on this one. And I do emphasize yet, however I truly believe it's going to take one of you geniuses to actually get this screen calibration corrected. I *do* believe our screen is better then the likes of the Galaxy S3 (though opinions come into play here as some people like the Amoled saturation better) and even the iPhone line-up. I've personally tested the sharpness to be greater than both. With the right game adjustments and color calibration I know this can be done.
I'm not complaining...(well maybe a lil) I love my phone. Best Nexus device to date, IMO, as I've had them all less the Nexus One. I just want to use it at its true potential. I remember tweaking my Nexus S with Voodoo drivers and that made a lot of difference. I've even used FauxClock which I can appreciate for its color tweaking ability on the kernels, including the Nexus 4 one rooted, but I still need game control. I certainly hope if google fails to correct this display issue that someone here gets it right.
Well, that's my rant... oh yeah and one more thing. Those that question those of us who do complain about the washed out look. It's a bit insulting to hear that we are used to certain devices (such as Amoled) as there are so many devices to compare our screens to and unfortunately most give ours that washed out feel. It's unfortunate to have what I believe to be one of the best screens on the market and be hindered like this. Everyone has the right to their opinion and if you like the screen as is... you're not alone as many do, including me. But it can be better. That I know.
In hopes of the Nexus 4 to its utmost potential,
Rome
(PS. All of our phones are slightly different in regards to the screens, so what might be slightly greener on mine might be a touch more red on yours. Just remember that everyone's experience differs.)

Have you tried this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol

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Have you tried this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Hi and thanks for the recommendation. I have tried that and it distorts the colors even worse for me over 255 making all of my white yellow.
My colors currently aren't horrible or anything but could use improvement but more over I'm even more interested in the gamma to be lowered so blacks on the app page and over all color isn't as washed out.
Thanks for taking time to try and help though. Its appreciated.
Rome
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Supposedly the developer of that app is working on a gamma setting feature for a future version.
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Catchpen said:
Supposedly the developer of that app is working on a gamma setting feature for a future version.
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That would be awesome. I'll be looking out for that. Thanks for the info.
Rome
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Catchpen said:
Supposedly the developer of that app is working on a gamma setting feature for a future version.
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Can wait for it, the screen is too warm, the white looks yellow
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The screen is a bit washed out. Colors just seem to be a tad light. Also, it seems that blues are a bit undersaturated.

manlisten said:
The screen is a bit washed out. Colors just seem to be a tad light. Also, it seems that blues are a bit undersaturated.
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My issues seem to fall right in line with yours. Undersaturated aka high gamma. Also washed out colors.
Despite my initial post stating the screen is beautiful and device just needs some tweaking such as gamma controls and color adjustment I'm sure people will start with the whole "we are used to amoled" crap Lol so be prepared to hear it.
That a side I'm happy but could be fully content with those adjustments in a new release or tools to fix these issues as Google hasn't normally in the past corrected color calibration issues in a timely manor in the past, if ever at all.
Lastly it seems there are a good bunch who are dealing with the yellowish screen issue (I'm not personally) and not sure if that goes away in time as I've heard that could be do to the glue on the screen. Again not sure as I'm not experiencing it.
Rome
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Chad_Petree said:
Can wait for it, the screen is too warm, the white looks yellow
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here is a picture, left side old one which i sent back cause it had a cracked in the back glass and right side the one i have and it seems like the yellow tint killin it.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64014163/DSCN0649.JPG

romeoliny said:
My issues seem to fall right in line with yours. Undersaturated aka high gamma. Also washed out colors.
Despite my initial post stating the screen is beautiful and device just needs some tweaking such as gamma controls and color adjustment I'm sure people will start with the whole we are used to smiled crap Lol so be prepared to hear it.
That a side I'm happy but could be fully content with those adjustments in a new release or tools to fix these issues as Google hasn't normally in the past corrected color calibration issues in a timely manor in the past, if ever at all.
Lastly it seems there are a good bunch who are dealing with the yellowish screen issue (I'm not personally) and not sure if that goes away in time as I've heard that could be do to the glue on the screen. Again not sure as I'm not experiencing it.
Rome
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Yeah, I actually think this screen is worlds better than Super AMOLED even with the slightly faded color pallette. My point of comparison is the SLCD on the HTC Sensation. While not an IPS screen, the colors are definitely deeper and more vivid than the Nexus 4, especially the blues (see image).

Red Wolf said:
here is a picture, left side old one which i sent back cause it had a cracked in the back glass and right side the one i have and it seems like the yellow tint killin it.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64014163/DSCN0649.JPG
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Wow that's definitely some serious yellow tinting going on there v thanks for sharing the pictures and I hope the fix comes soon for that
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manlisten said:
Yeah, I actually think this screen is worlds better than Super AMOLED even with the slightly faded color pallette. My point of comparison is the SLCD on the HTC Sensation. While not an IPS screen, the colors are definitely deeper and more vivid than the Nexus 4, especially the blues (see image).
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I see what you mean. From the picture it also appears you're dealing with the yellow tinting as well. But the blues are of for sure. My blue seems a bit on the purple side. I played a video by Katy Perry (the one with the blue hair on vevo in hd to see the resolution/quality) on my nexus 4 vs the iPhone 5 and to my surprise I was paying more attention to the colors being so misrepresented I forgot I was comparing sharpness.
Then I checked other videos and i noticed more and more. I guess all of our phones are of in different ways. Sort of complicated the matter further I'd imagine.
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romeoliny said:
Wow that's definitely some serious yellow tinting going on there v thanks for sharing the pictures and I hope the fix comes soon for that
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yup don't know what to do is this yellow tinted problem hardware or software related?

I'm not picky about colors or displays as long as i can see in bright sunlight. Usually in a dark room at night i notice very faint backlight bleed from the top when screen is dark black @ 30-50% brightness, like in some older LED notebooks.

Hi, can you also compare the whites and sharpness on iPhone 5 and nexus 4 respective screens. I really love reading text on beautiful white screen of iPhone 4S.

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Supposedly the developer of that app is working on a gamma setting feature for a future version.
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Francisco's work for the GNex was brilliant, including a good bit of calibration tools. He'll get there (he hasn't even received his N4 yet!).
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Supercurio is the man we want working on our screens. He's done absolute magic in the past
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I'm cross-posting my reply to this thread here because it touches on the differences in displays and what I've observed.
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I've heard from a lot of more educated folks and some devs how the common "washed out screen" complaint your seeing is not really accurate at all. Many of us (especially coming from Samsung phones) are used to those SAMOLED displays which oversaturate the colors. The colors you will see on a high quality IPS display like the Nexus 4 are actually a true representation of what they are supposed to look like. At first it is going to appear weird and "washed out" to you, but after adjusting a bit you should be able to appreciate that you are seeing the colors the way they were designed, by Google, to be viewed. Just some info I wanted to pass along
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I'm sorry, but I'm really going to have to beg to differ on this. When I got my Nexus 4 and showed it the my girlfriend next to my Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch Long Name phone, she instantly said, "The old one looks a lot better." I told her that the SAMOLED screen was merely hyped up because of all the usual reasons, but the difference DID bother me. I told myself, "No, this is more natural. It's not washed out. You're just used to the old screen," but I can't do it any longer. My screen IS washed out; it IS inaccurate. I'm not sure what to do about it.
I'm a semi-pro photographer (meaning I've made money from my work, but it's not my day job; see my stuff here) and thus really picky about image quality and fidelity. I also used to be a DVD reviewer for a couple of major sites and had to calibrate my home theater setups to properly grade A/V quality. I just recalibrated my main computer's display - a Dell UltraSharp U2410 IPS-panel connected via DisplayPort using a GretagMacbeth Eye-One Match 3 calibrator - and compared my current wallpaper (NSFW, so not linked; skin tones are a good source to judge because of the subtleties of complexions) from mine and other Flickr users work and the differences are there and problematic. I even dug out my OG EVO 4G to compare because it was its too-cool/bluish display that paled (no pun) in comparison to the GS2 was what made me thunk down $500 to buy the latter unsubsidized. I had to use the Movie setting in Display properties to get the least-hyped picture because Standard and Vivid were just acid-trip crazy.
Compared to the GS2, the N4's colors are flatter, paler and washed out, especially in highlights on skin which are getting close to being blown out to white. It looks cooler until you throw the EVO into the mix and see what really cool, bluish color cast looks like. When looking at all three, the GS2 looks the closest to the PC monitor; the N4 is clearly less saturated and skewed toward yellow (note: I do NOT see the yellow color cast on pure white that others have reported; it just looks like more red is needed); the EVO looks really cool (blue).
Checking another photo (again NSFW; tanned partial nude woman in vivid magenta leather jacket) shows similar issues. The N4 is flatter in contrast and the highlights are blown out; the wall in back doesn't look creamy, but almost white; the jacket looks pink, not magenta; the burgundy wash on her hair is almost unnoticeable. I couldn't check with the EVO because it's having a cow about updating (gee, it's been offline for 14 months, could that be the problem?) but since it's obsolete, who cares? The GS2 looks really close to the monitor and the N4 doesn't.
Using the LCD test patterns here - LCD monitor test images - the most damning one isn't the Black Level one (browser color profiles seem to mess with it) or the Gamma test (all the phones look waaaay out of whack) but the White Saturation pattern which demonstrates how brighter values are rendering. On my computer, I can see the difference between 254 and the 255 background. The highest the N4 shows is 247, meaning everything from 248 on up looks the same as pure white, 248-254 = 255 = not good. The GS2 goes four steps up to 251 and the difference between getting 96.9% of the way and 98.4% makes a difference. As someone who usually shoots black-clad musicians in dimly-lit clubs with black walls, the difference of a few steps is the difference between seeing a guy in a black shirt in a black room playing guitar or seeing a floating guitar and arm. (This is an all-time worst case example.)
The hardest thing to do in publishing is color management and printers and pre-production houses spend thousands of dollars trying to get their workflow together so that what designers see on the screen will match what's on the page when it's printed. It is said that a man with one clock knows what time it is but a man with two clocks is never sure and what may look fine in isolation may suffer in comparison to something else. (Like how your significant other may be cute, but stand them next to the latest Sexiest Man/Woman Alive and you realize you're in a relationship with a mortal.) The trick is to determine what is CORRECT. For clocks, you get one of those atomic deals and set your watch to that. For displays, you color calibrate and use test patterns.
This is what I've done and while there is a element of personal taste involved - like when you adjust the tone controls on your sound system to boom the bass or whatnot - I'm not interested in preference, but accuracy, and the screen on my Nexus 4 simply isn't accurate. Maybe it's isolated bad unit; maybe it's an issue with 25% of units; who knows? All I know is that some people say it's washed out; others say it's as good as the best-in-class HOX; some try to rationalize what they're seeing by attributing it to the differences between LCD and SAMOLED; and I just want a faithful version of what's being displayed.

Have you tried adjusting using Franco's display control app? Should be able to get pretty close to what you want.
The N4 is already a way better screen than the N7 I'm typing this on.
Edit: A few seconds tweaking got the white level to 253. Gamma as you say is way off..
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I would, but for some reason Play is saying I don't have any qualifying devices and doesn't even show my N4 in the dashboard, so I'm SOL to even try it.
EDIT: Was able to buy it from my phone, but what settings do you use. The lack of even labels on the RGB sliders and no sample image makes tweaking difficult.
EDIT #2: I refunded it because there wasn't enough info to work with in just 15 minutes. I was able to randomly slide things around and get White Saturation block 251 to appear (up from 247) and at one point it almost appeared to get the skin tones on the ballpark, but time ran out. I still think a gamma tweak would do a lot to help as well.

The Nexus 4 has one of the WORST screens ever! even with calibrated roms!

Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!

The viewing angles really aren't the best but the screen itself when you look straight at it is pretty good in my opinion.
But thanks for your 2 cents!

You should sell it to me for a good price
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The viewing angles really aren't the best but the screen itself when you look straight at it is pretty good in my opinion.
But thanks for your 2 cents!
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Yes, with the custom rom that I installed the colors improved a lot, but the viewing angles remained terrible! what I really dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the optimus G right? the OG had GREAT viewing angles! how can this be??

On principle I too think the viewing angles are unacceptable....I was shocked when I saw them really. Reviews seemed to gloss over them and some had the nerve to say they were good. lulz No.
With all that being said when I wasn't testing the viewing angles and just used the phone as I normally world, the screen looked good, if not a little washed out.
I only had it for a day then sold it.
So yeah, they suck when you look for them but straight on as I imagine most use thier phone, its all good.
I have a Note 2 but still tempted to have stock goodness along side. How much are you selling yours for out of curiosity?
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Yes, with the custom rom that I installed the colors improved a lot, but the viewing angles remained terrible! what I really dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the optimus G right? the OG had GREAT viewing angles! how can this be??
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Well ... All i can say is.
Price will not lie ...

Got 2 release ones here. Lovely screens, best ive ever had with great viewing angles.
Guess LG changed production after losing too much money.

Definitely worse than my mytouch 3g.
In all seriousness, its a $300 phone, so you get what u pay for. viewing angle is not a problem with me if I look at it from straight ahead, and there's utilities to change the color and gamma.
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ferrojasaguilar said:
Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
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Sorry to burst bubble but any phone made by samsung is not high end...expensive doesnt mean high end...and I wouldnt consider 5 to be many also..
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On principle I too think the viewing angles are unacceptable....I was shocked when I saw them really. Reviews seemed to gloss over them and some had the nerve to say they were good. lulz No.
With all that being said when I wasn't testing the viewing angles and just used the phone as I normally world, the screen looked good, if not a little washed out.
I only had it for a day then sold it.
So yeah, they suck when you look for them but straight on as I imagine most use thier phone, its all good.
I have a Note 2 but still tempted to have stock goodness along side. How much are you selling yours for out of curiosity?
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Wanna trade?? LOL

pak-stars said:
Sorry to burst bubble but any phone made by samsung is not high end...expensive doesnt mean high end...and I wouldnt consider 5 to be many also..
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Well i have a Droid Dna, i had an iphone 5... Are those high end enough for you? Every one of those destroys the nexus 4 screen. Thats MY opinion.

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Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
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Thank you for your contribution to xda. Please continue development for the community.
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Imma mad too about viewing angles I want someone on the elevator to be able to read off the screen and when my boys are over its too hard for eight of us to watch netflix together off my phone.
They better fix this with ota
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weird. my viewing angles are great. the screen is at least on par with iphones after its calibrated. its hard to even look at my gs2 screen after using this, i wonder how i used it for a whole year

What app do you use to calibrate the screen?
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What app do you use to calibrate the screen?
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Well someone recomended I install the PARANOID ANDROID 3.1 Rom along with the contrasty/bright kernels. Colors definetely improved, but viewing angles remained terrible...

Please go post your opinions on your blog or in the comment section of Engadget.
I've also closed your thread in Optimus G General.

Nexus 5 Review from an owner of every Nexus

I don't usually post on here but really wanted to share my opinions on the N5 as a Nexus enthusiast. Before I start I'd like to point out that on top of owning all of the previous Nexuses, I was trained as an industrial designer and currently work at a tech company doing software UX design, so I cover it in depth from both points of view. I've also never flashed a custom ROM and have always used my Nexus as a regular consumer would, so bear that in mind as I cover the software. Oh and apologies in advance for the length.
Hardware
The Nexus 5 hardware is excellent. It's the most refined and understated industrial design of any Nexus so far. Nothing is arbitrary; for once there are no egregious lines or curves. There's no more 'hump' on the bottom like the Samsung Nexus'. There's no glittery back like the Nexus 4. It's similar to the Xperia Z1 and iPhone 4 in its strive for simplicity. Even the controversial camera lens serves a purpose- you can almost always feel when you have a finger on it, preventing photos with a blurry pink intruder.
The build quality is also a new high point for the Nexus series. Even though the Nexus One was made out of metal, HTC hardware hadn't matured to where it is now with the HTC One, and there were imperfections in the machining and fitment. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were typical Samsung with large gaps between the screen and bezel-that were prone to collecting dust and debris. The Galaxy Nexus also had visible witness lines (where the tool separates in the injection molding process) along the sides. The Nexus 4 was well-built, but its construction with the chrome bezel felt outdated and harkened back to iPhone 3G days.
The Nexus 5 features some amazing tolerances between the screen and bezel, too small to let dust in, and resulting in a very precise feel when you run your finger over the edge of the glass. The parting line between the back panel and the bezel possesses this same level of precision. The Nexus and LG logos on the back are more than meet the eye- upon close inspection there is actually a reflective plastic layer inlay inside the debossed characters- probably what Matias Duarte was referring to when he mentioned in an interview that the casing goes through several post-processes, including 'lasers'. I'm guessing the reflective inlays are laser cut and then glued into the deboss.
The only hardware letdown are the power and volume buttons. In theory they should be great; the button themselves have a precise, machined feel to them and you can actually see the layers of ceramic when light reflects off them. The issue is the way they are attached to the phone- they move around a bit within their housings, something I haven't felt since the Nexus S. There's also a bit of backlight that leaks around the edges of the display, only visible when you're looking at the display from the side.
The camera is better than the Nexus 4, and that's good enough for me. I've always felt that smartphone cameras are what you make of them, and the Nexus 5 gives me a lot more to work with. I've taken some incredible shots with even the Galaxy Nexus camera, and if you know how to steady a camera and work with exposure, the Nexus 5 can take great photos. That said, iPhone cameras have an amazing ability to make anyone's haphazard shots turn out great, and sadly the Nexus 5's camera can't compete in that regard.
Software
On the software side, KitKat is a great update that really lets apps shine. From a design perspective, it makes sense that they got rid of 'Holo Blue' in the system UI, because it really did clash with some of the looks developers were trying to achieve in their apps. The full-screen 'immersive mode' is great, but the black gradients at the top and bottom really bother me. It looks like the edges of the screen are burnt, especially when there's a light background like in Google Now. In a DevBytes video on Youtube Roman Nurik said something like "in this iteration it's a gradient", which suggests to me that this was a controversial decision and leaves some hope that these horrendous gradients will be fixed in a future release. I think the transparent bars really lends itself to some apps with full-bleed views like Maps though, and I can't wait for an update that enables them.
The new dialer adds a lot of utility; I've only used it for a couple days but it seems like it will get smarter in time as it learns who I contact the most. So far it looks like it's going to make the People app obsolete for me.
That said, some changes may be hard to swallow for Android enthusiasts. One of the things I missed the most is the network activity indicators for Wifi and network in the status bar (those little up and down arrows), as well as the blue color that showed you were connected to Google's servers. The indicators still exist, but they now live in the quick settings in the notifications shade. I'll miss being in an app and seeing whether or not it was accessing the network just by glancing at the top right corner of the screen.
The fact that Google Now is a swipe away from your homescreen is nice, but not entirely necessary- it was a swipe away anyway, by pulling up from the home button. The fact that Google Now is on the left also means that your homescreen is the leftmost one, and the ability to have screens on the left and right of the homescreen (present since the beginning of Android) is now gone. I used to keep my widgets on the left and apps on the right of my homescreen so this is a big change. This is slightly abated by the fact that you can long press to zoom out, and then fly through all of your screens, but for some infuriating reason, it doesn't select the screen I want on a single tap- I have to press it twice. This may be the first time since Gingerbread that I'll use a custom launcher.
Hangouts and SMS integration should be great in theory, but in practice it's a mess. SMS and hangout threads are actually separated and not blended into one conversation, and if you're using multiple accounts it gets even more complicated because you'll now have two separate inboxes.
Overall the hardware is a great upgrade from the Nexus 4, and is definitely the best looking Nexus so far. The software has some great additions to increase usability, but also has some omissions that Android enthusiasts know and love. As we all know, Android is a very iterative piece of software; I'm just wondering whether my expectations based on advancements in the user experience of previous iterations has left me disappointed in KitKat's subtle improvements.
Odd and Ends
Yes, the display is fantastic
So far, the battery seems better than my Nexus 4
The Snapdragon 800 is a beast

So how's the touch response? Since the Nexus S: it's gotten progressively worse. What's the average Prs and Size values?

Nice review. :good:

Isn't it possible any more to configure which elements are in the notification bar (e.g. "location")?
Nice review!

great review, thanks.

Your review sounds very fanboy-ish...well I guess it's kind of expected from a nexus enthusiast.
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in reality no, the nexus 5 is as he has described , and will get better with updates .

highend01 said:
Isn't it possible any more to configure which elements are in the notification bar (e.g. "location")?
Nice review!
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To my knowledge you could never customize what appears on the right side of the notification bar in stock Android.

I never ever ever ever ever been a fan of stock android but kitkat paired with an S800 is so smooth and fast that I'm in love with this nexus 5. And battery life is actually quite good for me. Easily lasts me a day.
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Your battery is far better than on galaxy nexus, hopefully..?
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note 4 at best buy

Just informing everyone that bestbuy is now having the note 4 on display. We just started the preview today.

Yes was just there.
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I'm assuming Best Buy in the USA?

Very impressive build quality. Dumping my G3 for it [emoji16]
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Correct
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Went to best buy today during lunch. They had 3 of them on display. Looks great, solid build, and the screen seems sharper and clearer than my note 3. On "basic mode" the color rendering is spot on. I'm digging the Note 4.

nice! i just went to play with them....damn i can't wait! all they had was white, and for once, I don't want a white phone. i wanna see the black.
but yeah that screen is amazing and bright. so crisp. and honestly the phone seems really snappy! didn't notice any lag. camera seemed cool but i can't really test it there. i'm excited!
funny thing too..there were like 4 of the BB samsung reps just standing around, and not ONE came up to me to ask if i had any questions or try to sell me something. i guess they don't work on commission huh?

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nice! i just went to play with them....damn i can't wait! all they had was white, and for once, I don't want a white phone. i wanna see the black.
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Yeah I asked the rep if other stores in the area had black Note 4's but he said Samsung only sent out the white ones. Kinda bummed since I'm still not sure which color I want.
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was excited to get to play with one at my best buy as I wasn't expecting it to have it since it's pretty small. to be honest it didn't do much for me. i realized I don't gaf about the metal trim. the white back still has that crappy plastic feeling (I love the rubbery feel of my black note 3. why are they different Samsung?!) it didn't feel much snappier or anything and the screen while noticeably brighter didn't seem all that much sharper than my note 3. one are which there was a big difference was in the rear camera. the note 4 took a picture of the best buy store with great contrast and popping colors (her mode on) while My note 3's pic was dim. I was pretty excited about the note 4 but now I'm not so sure I need to upgrade right away at launch.

Did they happen to have any of the cases already available.? Just curious if I can pick one up before the phone arrives.

BBowermaster said:
Did they happen to have any of the cases already available.? Just curious if I can pick one up before the phone arrives.
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No we wont have any case ship in until the day before.

trade in ?
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No we wont have any case ship in until the day before.
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So is the trade in a flat $200 gift card for ANY working smartphone ?

I stopped by my local best buy last night and got to play around with them. Had a sales rep come by and he was flipping through the screens and doing demos with the videos and stylus etc... Really a great sales pitch. He didn't have to sell me though as I already pre-ordered but I told him that early on and we still went through it both happily impressed. I think he sold himself on it from his S5! The screen is very impressive. I cannot believe how great the big demo videos look on that screen. I'm even more excited now to get it and put this iphone 5 on ebay.

I played with the frost white model at my local Best Buy, yesterday. They had three working models. Very beautiful phone. The little metal trim really adds a lot to the niceness of the phone. I was most impressed with the crispness of the screen, how extremely loud the speaker was — despite the rear placement, and how beautiful 4K photos and videos looked on the device. You can definitely see the screen quality difference between the Note 3 & 4, when watching the 4K demo videos on the Note 4. Just completely breathtaking!! I was sick of seeing nothing but the same, boring, stock blue static wallpaper found in every single review, so I changed it to the vibrant wallpaper in the photo I included, and I also changed it to one of the blue phase beam live wallpapers on the phone. Gorgeous!
Also, the faux leather backing on the Note 4 feels more like the black faux leather backing of the Note 3... not that extra firm hard plastic feel, found on the current white Note 3. The camera was nice, and I love the out-of-focus shot abilities, where you can enhance a portion of a photo, and blur out other portions. The wide-angle selfie mode was very nice, as well. The UI improvements are very nice, and more modern looking than what's found on the Note 3's 4.4.3 UI.
Overall, I was ready to upgrade, but I'm going to hold off due to a serious concern someone posted on here, about how 1080p movies would actually look on the Note 4. There seems to be some controversy as to whether or not the qHD screen would actually render 1080p movies better or worse than the Note 3. Taking that out of the equation, it would be worth the Next 12 upgrade for me.

Played with the Note 4 today at Best Buy as well. Streamed a 1080p movie to it, quality seemed fine. The speaker is louder then the Note 3. Couldn't test the camera to much the anti theft cord was to short.
Any one else notice the left capacitive button isn't a menu button anymore. Instead it's a recent app button. It confused me for a bit in the beginning.
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mardukeme said:
Played with the Note 4 today at Best Buy as well. Streamed a 1080p movie to it, quality seemed fine. The speaker is louder then the Note 3. Couldn't test the camera to much the anti theft cord was to short.
Any one else notice the left capacitive button isn't a menu button anymore. Instead it's a recent app button. It confused me for a bit in the beginning.
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Yes, the menu button's icon was changed to reflect that it is now a recent app button. It's been shown in many of the online videos. Not really sure why the change, or if the button can be reassigned without root. At any rate, the new recent apps menu looks worlds better than the one found on the Note 3.

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Yes, the menu button's icon was changed to reflect that it is now a recent app button. It's been shown in many of the online videos. Not really sure why the change, or if the button can be reassigned without root. At any rate, the new recent apps menu looks worlds better than the one found on the Note 3.
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It seems to be more close to stock android... I don't like it but just making a long press it will work as the menu button.

Played with a bit today..Want it even more.
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Dr. Evo said:
Yes, the menu button's icon was changed to reflect that it is now a recent app button. It's been shown in many of the online videos. Not really sure why the change, or if the button can be reassigned without root. At any rate, the new recent apps menu looks worlds better than the one found on the Note 3.
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So there's no menu button? Going back to the three dot soft key?

EP2008 said:
So there's no menu button? Going back to the three dot soft key?
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No menu button, same as the Galaxy S5. But like someone said, long press the recent app button and it functions as the menu button.