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Hey guys,
I am now the owner of an Samsung Galaxy Note. I was wondering... is it worth it to root my phone in order to flash a custom rom? I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
ROMs have their pluses and minuses. Freedom is what it's all about.
From all I gather, the current process available means that it is complete reversible. Devices can be unrooted and restored to normal condition.
Suppose it's a personal call. I like to play, so I'm rooting mine right now
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
impy101 said:
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
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Then this isn't for you. The whole point is customizations that may not be available otherwise, and in some cases an overall better rom (subjective). I personally like having that option, though I won't bother since like you said ice cream will come soon
impy101 said:
Hey guys,
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
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I use a ROM because it runs faster/smoother, gets rid of stuff I don't want, and they can be easily modded further via themes and etc.
That said, the Note runs pretty well even stock. It's crazy smooth with the latest Cassy ROM but I'd assume that stock XLA3 runs well too. I'd suggest looking through ROM threads (you generally really only need to look at the first two posts), and see if there's anything you see that you like.
If nothing interests you, then don't bother. If so..... go get it.
Stock firmware, rooted is probably good enough for most people.
- Frank
impy101 said:
I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
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Is it ? Any sources on that ?
Anyway, I love custom ROM's (Coming from a HD2 ), but so far, i've only rooted the stock ROM. I was going to wait for ICS as I couldn't see any benefit to me on a custom one. Plus, i've only had the Note for a day now, so wanted to wait atleast a couple of days before I started to flash new ROM's if I was going to.
I'm the same as you, I don't play games or anything. Just the basics like email, widgets etc etc.
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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Yes ics is comming but you cant exactly tell when so why wait for ics if you can have a better/faster and smoother Rom right now?!
They definitely do! It always depends what rom you are using but rocket rom for example has a smoothness fix in it and yes it is fckin smooth
Cant complain about my bettery life cant say if its true but in my opinion i have better battery life than before with rocketrom v17 and abysskernel 3.1
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I believe fast or slow Roms is gauged on the way the ui frame rate and "rubber band" respond method used in the ipad2. I can really get pissed off totally at how touchwiz behaves to the touch, no matter how you tweak it, the chezzy frame rate sucks. whereas cm9 mod 4.03 gives me the ipad2 feeling of a screamingly fast UI. Samsung! You better not screw up the ICS port you are working on for the note.
I better bet for cm9 to do better.
impy101 said:
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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There are lots of methods of speeding things up - shortening needless delays, removing things you don't need that consume RAM/CPU, removing logging that you don't need, etc. Some methods are safer than others. And optimizing for certain things may mean other things run slower. It all depends.
The same can be said for battery life.
I'd say that overall ROMS certainly run better than stock. You'll see yourself running kernel XXXX, and some people with ROMS on XXXX proclaiming great performance that you aren't seeing.
I'd disagree that there is an overall 'Best ROM'. There is, perhaps, a 'Best ROM' for YOU. In a dream world, the best ROM sacrifices everything you don't use, for stuff that you do use.
- Frank
impy101 said:
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
Qvp said:
In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
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Fine. Message from Samsung saying that ICS for the Note WILL arrive in Q1 of 2012.
I moved back to the stock ROM
Being on 2 different ROMs, rocket rom v18 included. I've seen bugs and lags.
I'm rooted and have a kernel that let's me overclock to 1.6mhz. But ROM is stock
Just my 2 cents. Wait for the ICS
I do regret going past the KL3 threshold with an OTA update without rooting. Now I have to downgrade from KL7 to KK9 get root, if for no other reason than to use the AdFree app.
I will probably go ahead and trouble myself with it before another OTA pops up for the German debitel note since I am uncertain of what will happen once ICS does show up and I would rather be ready to go with mobile odin just in case.
Has anyone found a kernel/rom which uses an AOSP bluetooth stack?
This would fix audio quality issues with bluetooth A2DP
coming froma hd2 and many custom roms i have now settled on a stock room, rooted it and removed anything i dont need using root explorer and changed the launcher to go launcher
given the apps ripped out and change of launcher along with framework mods, its fast enough for my likings
Better battery(most improtant for me ), better performance and more eye candy. Try rocket 18 with speedmod 3, i lost 5% in 22 hrs.
Just to make things easy for the layman.
1) Stock TouchWizz v4 (2.3.6) = 75/100
2) VillianMOD (2.3.6) = 77/100
3) Pure Google (2.3.7) = 70/100
4) CM7.1 (2.3.7) = 85/100
5) MIUI v2.113 (2.3.7) = 89/100
6) Pure Google (4.0.1)= 90/100
7) Stock TouchWizz v4 (4.0.1) = ???
8) CM9 (4.0.1) = ???
9) MIUI v4 (4.0.1) = ???
As you can see, its not worth updating now, unless there's a function you really really want.
Wait for a stable CMod or MIUI ROM if you want to "upgrade".
P.S.
Blur (50), Sense (58), TimeScape (63), StageUI (65), iOS (80)
Maemo5 (pr1.2) = 100/99!!!
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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sacque said:
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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So true. That's exactly why i want Samsung to "limit" the amount of times i flash my phone vs limitless installs of cROMs
By the way, the only way to find out what the best cROM is, would be to use it for a while. Due to the fact that there are so many options, i think i'd stick to the official one.
I have an unlocked gNote so it may be different for those that have a carrier issued one and have bloatware on the device.
By the way, reading through hundreds of pages of ppl talking about a specific ROM will only make you more confusing
Hi, my mum’s i9000 is running with stock JV6 and it is very slow.
I want to help her flash a very fast and simple rom, doesn't need any extra function or custom ability since she will never know how to use. Both GB or ICS is fine as long as the rom will maintain a reasonable speed for a few months.
She mainly uses the phone for web browsing , whatsapp, videos, facebook, sms,youtube &etc, but the main problem is she never uninstall any app & delete any history/old data even she doesn't need them anymore.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Choose the JW1 ... Simple, good, fast ... And stable ... My opinion!
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Simplicity Rom is a great option, runs fast and smooth without all the added bells and whistles. You might want to check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203047
Try JVU good perfomance and so stable
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I think you'd better use GB ROMs. They are more stable than ICS as S II ICS have not come yet to be ref.
CM7 may be better. It is a community ROM that every one help. CM (Steve Kondik is hired by Samsung!
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Your Mum is really different from mine.
My Mum don't want me to make any modifications. She hate rooting as she thought that Samsung would never help her.
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I would stick to stock rom and add a custom kernel. probably something like semaphore or devil kernel. Not an expert on kernel so there could be others that would help speed up the device more. These kernels can help speed up the device while having less issues.
Most of the custom roms, while being absolutely awesome, are not something I would recommend for my Mom. They do tend to have minor bugs some more annoying than others. At least with stock everything works for the most part.
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
dawids2k8 said:
You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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evaworld said:
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
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But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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Leechoonhwee said:
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Which kernel do you use for over clocking?
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Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
The predictable Cyanogen answer with all based on Cyanogen.
Easy to flash, stock, fast, light on the battery, has the cooler stock Android ICS look. CM10 coming 'round the corner with JellyBean.
Not recommended for those that love TouchWiz and things like S-Memo.
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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fistofthenorth said:
Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
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You may please search the forum, as a ROM poll is going on.
This post does not belong in the development section. Mods may please shift it to General Section
uafridi_1179 said:
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
Im using Criskelo v9 rom with GL- Notecore v8.1 (OC) kernel,everything working as it should and the speed is awesome as far as battery goes ive only been running the kernel a few days and it seems ok. I charge my phone every night so battery life is no issue here.Everbody's usage differs tho, if your after longer battey life i wouldnt opt for an OC kernel.
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Definitely the wrong forum to post this but..
STAXX Paranoid Android -- Best ROM to date.
eug3n91 said:
You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
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Actually S-memo and the other sammy apps for the s-pen are better than the likes of papyrus and other apps. So for those who want/need s-memo stick with touchwiz based roms.
you guys can get angry with me but im honest to my heart,...as of now there is no rom that is completely good..im going back to gb
all tw ics roms have one major problem: SCROLLING aint smooth enough( ive tried em all)..they stutter like hell!!
and cm9 roms arent that great for battery life...
cm 10 aint fully functional...
all in all i hate it that samsung has created a wonderful device with awesome specs but totally screwed the software releases throughout...to make it even worse is black clipping!!.. im just irritated with this device, dont feel like owning a premium device...im about to sell it hopefully note 2 is better coz the spen and screen size are unbeatable!!!
Stock ROM is the best.
Hi your best option is to go for a Touchwiz rom which you can highly customize during installation. Chrack's and Criskelo are very good fully customizable rooms. They come with Aroma installation to let you remove a lot of bloat ware before installation.
Touchwiz roms also have the best kernels around. Like Note core and Speed mod. These give a very significant improvement in speed n battery. Of course cyanogen based roms r good. But the prob is u will be lacking some native drivers Samsung has integrated into the roms for the best performance. For ex, divx support is there by default, NTFS file format for SD card can be achieved, better drivers for display n graphics etc.
Touchwiz roms can crush cyanogen roms in benchmarks as well. Cyanogen can seem very smooth and fluid. But with the right launcher (apex or nova) u can easily give the rom a stock ICS feel as well. Hope this helped. Cheers
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The best ROM is the one that works best for you on your phone. Try a few out and decide for yourself.
And posts like this never belong in Development.
thanks for checking out this thread, i really appreciate your efforts
i have tried many custom roms, most of them are fast and stable to me (who is not an expert in phones in any way,) so i can not decide which is the best
by best (to me) i mean a rom with:
- minimal extras in it, i dont need things like s voice, more than one player, or mutiple keyboards etc
- tweaks that make it runs faster
- of course fast, stable and as less buggy as possible
- wide range of custom setting for user
once again thank you all for helping me
have a nice day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936311
Slimbean
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thanks guys.
i have always been trying famous rom like rocked rom, paranoid, cna, ... but never really paid attention to those like these. I am gonna try them right now.
thanks a bunch for suggesting
Or best yet.. Cook your own
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My suggestion is that you try a stock based rom (kingdroid, criskelo, sweet rom, etc..) and clean some bloatware with system app remover or titanium.
tutorials are pretty easy and according to my poor experience are a bit more stable than others.
Regards
eragonshurtugal said:
thanks for checking out this thread, i really appreciate your efforts
i have tried many custom roms, most of them are fast and stable to me (who is not an expert in phones in any way,) so i can not decide which is the best
by best (to me) i mean a rom with:
- minimal extras in it, i dont need things like s voice, more than one player, or mutiple keyboards etc
- tweaks that make it runs faster
- of course fast, stable and as less buggy as possible
- wide range of custom setting for user
once again thank you all for helping me
have a nice day
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May b u can try these, if you haven't tried them already..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923817
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918566
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1872965&page=15
I'm running Cassies which is as slim as you can get if you choose the middle choice in aroma . Take bloat out with rom tools .
Criskelo is another fave of mine
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