Anyone tried to install Carbon yet? - RAZR i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This got released today, and looks like could be pretty useful, although due to Motorola its not defiantly gonna work...
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Is Froyo (FRF50) official - or just an "accident"?

I have updated my stock 2.1 N1 to Froyo (Build FRF50) manually. I'm wondering, though, if this release is really meant to be the official, final Google-supported update.
Is there any word from Google (except for MG Siegler's "The roll out to Nexus One devices has begun!" over at Seeking Alpha) that this is the one?
Same question here. Also if this turns out to be a pre released update, can the stock N1 be updated to a official version?
from what i understand there is no actual official word. That said im loving froyo: As with previous updates, froyo added features and bug fixes and also brought some new issues, so if you are thinking maybe its not official because of some bugs, to me that wouldnt be sufficient evidence: I havent experienced any of the complaints save one- Anyone else having the phone randomly go to sleep and not wake up?
The scrolling,
updated native apps (youtube is amazing now),
overall speed increase,
awesome camera/camcorder updates,
very smooth BETA flash,
simple and effective tethering,
fantastic new setting options throughout the OS,
left AND right rotating
updated UI (love the phone/app drawr/ browser buttons)
and im sure im forgetting stuff...All extremely awesome features and my personal new issues of freezing and hard sleep i can live with i just hope they arent harmful.
i't doesn't feel like a complete FroYo. I have little bugs that i noticed. screen goes black and don't go on anymore, have to take out battery. When the phone is in the charger and i'm playing with it, It gets really really hot.
The new features are great i miss some CM tweaks The UI was a little different at the IO so maybe there will be more surprises?
this was a prerelease to the developer holiday phone the official is coming out around the 29th of may and will continue to roll out till all nexus ones have the update
jdmoore81 said:
this was a prerelease to the developer holiday phone the official is coming out around the 29th of may and will continue to roll out till all nexus ones have the update
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How do you know this? also will we get that update too?
Well the "leaked" URL was pulled, wasn't it?
this was very likely to be a pre test release. I've looked into the build.prop and there are signs that it is a test release as the word test appears several times throughout.
Given the silence from Google, and the subsequent removal of the link, I suspect this was an accident... meant it to go to a select few whilst forgetting how easy it was to distribute the location of the update.zip.
Wouldn't bother me any if this was the official ... its flawless for me. No freezes or any wierd stuff. Pure froyoness
m00moo said:
this was very likely to be a pre test release. I've looked into the build.prop and there are signs that it is a test release as the word test appears several times throughout.
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Thnx for the info, so this is a test version. felt that way
Rusty! said:
Given the silence from Google, and the subsequent removal of the link, I suspect this was an accident... meant it to go to a select few whilst forgetting how easy it was to distribute the location of the update.zip.
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So the link is gone than it's definitely a accident.
I'm gonna say this ain't the final release. But I doubt it'll be any diff. How much more could they fix or improve from the accidental release to the real one.... I bet the same bugs people are seeing now will be present in the final...
Nothing's perfect
Except for me.lol no issues
oh dear... not so good if this is true!
I spose people on here flashed the update.zips from xda?
Hopefully Google will push out the live update now certainly with the potential problems people could be getting
No, I flashed with the file direct from Google before the link was pulled.
So it's all over the news Nexus has froyo now but has anyone with a legit locked stock phone actually gotten it? Like one of the ATT folks?
Anyone have any links to some real clarification on this?
No stock AT&T/Vodafone customer can get it yet.
Zenoran said:
So it's all over the news Nexus has froyo now but has anyone with a legit locked stock phone actually gotten it? Like one of the ATT folks?
Anyone have any links to some real clarification on this?
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No, I am one of the many AT&T folks that is still waiting for the official release from Google. I have a 3 week old N1 that is still stock and with locked boot loader, and I have no problems waiting, as I am not ready to root my new N1 just yet.
the official will we the frf86 as seen in a couple threads this version will work fine for the holiday version of the nexus one . i tried it on both the holiday nexus one and the official release of the nexus one and it runs better for some reason on the holiday version
Where are you getting all the info from?
Is there likely to be much added between FRF50 and FRF86?
How SO we know if its a holiday one?

help me deside.

Hi
I have ben looking to buy the lg 2x optimus for a while. Reports of isues, the phone not working proberly, battery, bluetooth isues and so on, have ben holdning me off. And i have infact started to look for other phones, then i saw that cyanogenmod are adding support for this phone, and its getting pretty close. So i was wondering, will these isues that people are having, be resolved in cyanogenmod?
The reason i am looking for the optimus 2x, is because its only a 4", i think 4.3" is a bit to big, also if cyanogenmod is coming, and all the "isues" are solved with the phone i really thing this could be a nice phone that should be able to run icecream pretty good aswell, so it wont be outdated in ½ year.
oh, also its on sale atm.. should i strike or wait?
StarF said:
Hi
I have ben looking to buy the lg 2x optimus for a while. Reports of isues, the phone not working proberly, battery, bluetooth isues and so on, have ben holdning me off. And i have infact started to look for other phones, then i saw that cyanogenmod are adding support for this phone, and its getting pretty close. So i was wondering, will these isues that people are having, be resolved in cyanogenmod?
The reason i am looking for the optimus 2x, is because its only a 4", i think 4.3" is a bit to big, also if cyanogenmod is coming, and all the "isues" are solved with the phone i really thing this could be a nice phone that should be able to run icecream pretty good aswell, so it wont be outdated in ½ year.
oh, also its on sale atm.. should i strike or wait?
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I think most of the issues are software issues and are getting fixed piece by piece. The real hardware issue, you sent the phone for warrenty.....
So I would go for the O2X. I have it since day one, and only Issue I had since then that the phone powerd off like 3 times. 3 Times in 2/3 months is ok for me Since the update it hasn't powerd itself off yet.
xmoo said:
I think most of the issues are software issues and are getting fixed piece by piece. The real hardware issue, you sent the phone for warrenty.....
So I would go for the O2X. I have it since day one, and only Issue I had since then that the phone powerd off like 3 times. 3 Times in 2/3 months is ok for me Since the update it hasn't powerd itself off yet.
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tnx for your fast reply, i was hoping for something like that. How is it for daily use? i guess the phone is ok, once you get all that lg crapware off the phone?
StarF said:
tnx for your fast reply, i was hoping for something like that. How is it for daily use? i guess the phone is ok, once you get all that lg crapware off the phone?
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I was a HTC user. Almost all the smarthphones i've owned were from HTC.
All the HTC phones I've rooted. Not cause of custom roms or whatever.
Just some setting changes etc...
The O2X I havn't rooted yet. Why? Cause it works as it should work.
On the first stock rom I could get 1.5/2 days out of the battery. And even got 4 days (disabled internet). And now with the new rom I get one day. So that is also a software thing. But still I don't see the need of rooting the phone.
The phone works very good out of the box.
xmoo said:
I was a HTC user. Almost all the smarthphones i've owned were from HTC.
All the HTC phones I've rooted. Not cause of custom roms or whatever.
Just some setting changes etc...
The O2X I havn't rooted yet. Why? Cause it works as it should work.
On the first stock rom I could get 1.5/2 days out of the battery. And even got 4 days (disabled internet). And now with the new rom I get one day. So that is also a software thing. But still I don't see the need of rooting the phone.
The phone works very good out of the box.
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i am comming from a htc desire, that is running cyanogenmod, and tbh i wouldent be able to live with anything else, than that or a clean android experience.
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
kopchev said:
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
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it was my impresion that cyanogenmod was close, if so that would give it gingerbread?
StarF said:
it was my impresion that cyanogenmod was close, if so that would give it gingerbread?
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He means the stock gingerbread. Not Cyanogenmod.
kopchev said:
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
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I agree with you. Wait for Gingerbread. If this update will not resolve all the problems then its a ****y product.
tnx for the response, desided to wait it out and see.. TBH unless the cm version for it, is bad, or anything like that, i would probaly buy it. I dont plan on running a stock rom any way, i am considering it just because there is cm for it
raf2k said:
I agree with you. Wait for Gingerbread. If this update will not resolve all the problems then its a ****y product.
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TBH it's a ****ty product for now and hopefully new firmwares will fix it; for now it's a strange and very picky device. I always think back to the days I just got my HTC Hero; that device only got "fixed" due to paul 'o brien and the cyanogenmod team otherwise i had been selling it a long time ago. Still got the hero though and recently flashed one of the latest oxygen roms on it and it actually amazed me how solid and fast it was; that is one of the beauties of these kind of phones; the communities behind it fixing things.
arielext said:
TBH it's a ****ty product for now and hopefully new firmwares will fix it; for now it's a strange and very picky device. I always think back to the days I just got my HTC Hero; that device only got "fixed" due to paul 'o brien and the cyanogenmod team otherwise i had been selling it a long time ago. Still got the hero though and recently flashed one of the latest oxygen roms on it and it actually amazed me how solid and fast it was; that is one of the beauties of these kind of phones; the communities behind it fixing things.
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But as long the HW isent "bad" or there are isues with the hardware, i dont see why the phone wouldt be a good buy, as long you know, you need to root and mod it, in order to get a prober phone.
after all the tmobile version runs pretty good i am told, so its more or less software isues?
StarF said:
But as long the HW isent "bad" or there are isues with the hardware, i dont see why the phone wouldt be a good buy, as long you know, you need to root and mod it, in order to get a prober phone.
after all the tmobile version runs pretty good i am told, so its more or less software isues?
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The stock android experience on the tmobile version still has some of the quirks we experience in the rest of the world, but even with the LG crapware software layer it can be an awesome phone but just don't treat it as a normal android phone; leave the LG crap in place and build on top of it or your phone will reboot/hang/go black (in my experience)
arielext said:
The stock android experience on the tmobile version still has some of the quirks we experience in the rest of the world, but even with the LG crapware software layer it can be an awesome phone but just don't treat it as a normal android phone; leave the LG crap in place and build on top of it or your phone will reboot/hang/go black (in my experience)
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so just to be clear, if i remove all the lg crapware, the phone will run badly ?i thought it was the other way around.
As things stand OP, I just wouldn't bother with this phone...
Had it nearly a month now.. fantastic hardware but the software sucks big time. Super slow and battery life sucks (probably due to software).
Thoughts of waiting for Gingerbread are all well, but LG managed to screw up the current software so well that I have complete faith that they will also screw up that too.
In a couple of months the Galaxy S2 will be out followed a bit later by the Atrix.. I dare say they won't be perfect but I don't think they can be as bad as LG's "effort"..
I really wish I had a HTC Desire, a 2 year old phone over my O2X...
Don't get me wrong, I love Android to pieces, but IMHO if Google can't sort out the mess that too many manufacturers are making of their OS by sticking their own crap on top and making it awful... it'll just push people towards Apple (who I hate). The man in the street just wants a phone that works and doesn't want to be messing around with custom roms etc.
This phone needs a lot of work to make it useable. Out of the box, this phone was crap, battery died within 10 hours, hanged 2-3 times when charging and browsing and needed to take out the battery.
I have some spare time this weekend and finally tried the vanilla rom from paul. It works perfect! No lg crapware, just pure google.
I'm using opera for my browser, listen to music for 4-5 hours with poweramp, downloaded some apps, play samurai 2, and the battery finally died after 30 hours!
Hello,
I have been reading this forum in the past few days but I still can not decide what smartphone should I buy for my birthday which is in about 2 weeks.
To be honest I have never owned a smartphone before, so when I decided to get one recently, I thought it might be better start off with a medium category Samsung Galaxy Ace for about 135 EUR (discounted price as a loyal sub-er).
However, after some further readings I realised it might be better to get a premium category O2X for about 270 EUR (with the same discount), since it will not outdate as fast as SGA, so probably I can use it for 2-3 years while SGA has already lesser apps and its slower processor will be outdated relatively soon. I do not intend to buy any new phone for 2-3 years after I get one now.
Also as a newbie, I think it will take me some time to get familiar with android features so waiting for updates should not be an issue for me (having the freezes and Gingerbread in mind).
As it stands now, O2X seems to be a better investment for me for the long term, but as I have no experience wiht smartphones at all I would like to hear your opinion as well - thanks in advance.
topanyel said:
Hello,
I have been reading this forum in the past few days but I still can not decide what smartphone should I buy for my birthday which is in about 2 weeks.
To be honest I have never owned a smartphone before, so when I decided to get one recently, I thought it might be better start off with a medium category Samsung Galaxy Ace for about 135 EUR (discounted price as a loyal sub-er).
However, after some further readings I realised it might be better to get a premium category O2X for about 270 EUR (with the same discount), since it will not outdate as fast as SGA, so probably I can use it for 2-3 years while SGA has already lesser apps and its slower processor will be outdated relatively soon. I do not intend to buy any new phone for 2-3 years after I get one now.
Also as a newbie, I think it will take me some time to get familiar with android features so waiting for updates should not be an issue for me (having the freezes and Gingerbread in mind).
As it stands now, O2X seems to be a better investment for me for the long term, but as I have no experience wiht smartphones at all I would like to hear your opinion as well - thanks in advance.
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those here that can cope with the o2x know what we've been talking about. How does a fresh one fit in?
- need 2x day on a battery?
don't go near android (but it can be done)
- need an ios like expeience?
the o2x is a no go; you're better of with a high end htc phone
- cutting edge?
the o2x could be it; for now the nexus 1 and nexus S are a better choice
- UX
sense -> go htc! or maybe Sony/Eric
- the most powerfull phone
hey this could be it, for 4 months
You should buy it, cuz it hasent locked bootloader and it very easy phone for the developers, so there will be very good roms, and btw. CM7 is on the way :=)
arielext said:
those here that can cope with the o2x know what we've been talking about. How does a fresh one fit in?
- need 2x day on a battery?
don't go near android (but it can be done)
- need an ios like expeience?
the o2x is a no go; you're better of with a high end htc phone
- cutting edge?
the o2x could be it; for now the nexus 1 and nexus S are a better choice
- UX
sense -> go htc! or maybe Sony/Eric
- the most powerfull phone
hey this could be it, for 4 months
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Thanks for feedback.
The problem is that my provider currently sells 3 types of HTC: Wildfire, Desire and Desire HD. HTC DHD would cost 430 EUR which seems too much for me, normal desire would cost nearly as much as O2X.
Also nexus phones are not avaliable at my provider and there are only 3 types of Xperias avaliable from S/E which I dont really like.
I am kinda bound to my current provider so I do not think I have too many possibilities..

RAZR ICS stuff?

Now that the ICS build for RAZR has been leaked, has anyone taken a look to see if there's anything in there that would be useful for ICS on our phones?
Also, it seems the new build also includes updated radio firmware. Has anyone checked to see if GSM support is present in the new radio?
highlandsun said:
Now that the ICS build for RAZR has been leaked, has anyone taken a look to see if there's anything in there that would be useful for ICS on our phones?
Also, it seems the new build also includes updated radio firmware. Has anyone checked to see if GSM support is present in the new radio?
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Dhacker & Hashcode are already looking at it.
According to Hashcode, Dhacker was all over it this weekend, but it's still going to take a bit of time to get it all implemented.
So we should see some stuff coming up, but it is going to be a bit before it trickles down.
Mostly, they're looking at the radio's right now. The other thing that's also being heavily looked at is the HWcodecs for the video.
awesome... i figured they would be on top of it, but its great to have confirmation... also just a straight port of it would be awesome!
it would be great if they are able to port over the radio for 3G/4G since the 3 ICS roms we have so far have issues with data
Yeah, a straight port would pretty much be perfect... What I dont get is why Moto cant release the D4 update along with the RAZR...
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Hashcode, you're gonna get 20 bucks from me.

I wanna know. Blurry or FlyingJelly?

so what does everyone like about the to roms. which is better. and more stable? lets hear some stuff about them
ModestMouse1312 said:
so what does everyone like about the to roms. which is better. and more stable? lets hear some stuff about them
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I had tons of problems with blurry. Very laggy on my phone, and I installed it 2 different times. I know alot of ppl love it, but it didnt work for me. I didnt use flying for very long, but it seemed pretty nice. I installed liquidsmooth this morning and IMO Id say go with that.
voodoodaddy said:
I had tons of problems with blurry. Very laggy on my phone, and I installed it 2 different times. I know alot of ppl love it, but it didnt work for me. I didnt use flying for very long, but it seemed pretty nice. I installed liquidsmooth this morning and IMO Id say go with that.
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So far flying jelly has been the best ROM for me, I had drop box issues on the other 2 . The additional themes available is a plus.
From my Flying Jelly Bionic
i had a few problems with flying jelly so im trying blurry. im overclocked to 1250 mhz and running stable and fast. i like it so far. better then flyingjelly
Obsidian_soul said:
So far flying jelly has been the best ROM for me, I had drop box issues on the other 2 . The additional themes available is a plus.
From my Flying Jelly Bionic
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I think its safe to say, OP, try them all and make your own decision One size (rom) does not fits all.
For me....
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so what does everyone like about the to roms. which is better. and more stable? lets hear some stuff about them
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I had used Blurry for 2 days with no issues and was happy with it, but on the 3rd day I woke up to a reboot and within the next 20 minutes the entire battery had drained to 7% and the phone was so hot I felt it through the Otter Box/holster. Have had no issues with Flying Jelly, but since 2.4 Liquidsmooth came out I've been on it. However like it has been said to each his own and try them all out my issue could have been my fault or because of an app I had installed or something
default82781 said:
I had used Blurry for 2 days with no issues and was happy with it, but on the 3rd day I woke up to a reboot and within the next 20 minutes the entire battery had drained to 7% and the phone was so hot I felt it through the Otter Box/holster. Have had no issues with Flying Jelly, but since 2.4 Liquidsmooth came out I've been on it. However like it has been said to each his own and try them all out my issue could have been my fault or because of an app I had installed or something
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i just wanted to see what everyone liked. not what i would like the best
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i just wanted to see what everyone liked. not what i would like the best
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you asked what people liked, you're going to get opinions. Isn't the whole point to get a sense for them all (likes, dislikes, problems), so you can decide for yourself which one you like best? OR - use safestrap and install them all, run them for a week or so and see which one you want to go with.
ldubs said:
you asked what people liked, you're going to get opinions. Isn't the whole point to get a sense for them all (likes, dislikes, problems), so you can decide for yourself which one you like best? OR - use safestrap and install them all, run them for a week or so and see which one you want to go with.
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I like blurry but its on 4.1.2
Cm is nice because of how stable it is. The updater is really nice.
Aokp nlis nice. Just don't like that they don't have an updater.
Pacman. Had a lot of bugs for me. Screen glitching out with the DPI setting they had. A lot of screen tears.
Liquid never really appealed to me.

Moto X development

Just ordered my moto X on Verizon waiting anxiously to arrive. I'm upgrading from a rezound. I love flashing Roms and try all different custom Roms devs put for us to play with. My only concern is that I don't see a lot of development for the phone I mean Official development, such CM, slimbean, PAC, aokp, carbon and so on. This is a well known device, is there something on the code that is hard to develop Roms for it. I'll appreciate any feedback.
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sorullo_xgrx said:
Just ordered my moto X on Verizon waiting anxiously to arrive. I'm upgrading from a rezound. I love flashing Roms and try all different custom Roms devs put for us to play with. My only concern is that I don't see a lot of development for the phone I mean Official development, such CM, slimbean, PAC, aokp, carbon and so on. This is a well known device, is there something on the code that is hard to develop Roms for it. I'll appreciate any feedback.
Got MIUIFIED?
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Locked bootloader on two major carriers+The phone is just about perfect with stock.
I gave up worrying about development and started just enjoying the phone for the awesome device it already is.
Thanks I have no doubt is a great stock running phone. Is just always nice running all those great custom Roms and all the extra staff they offer
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only thing i wish i could do is block ads. i never really used root except for TiBackup and Ad Blockers. i used to pound my Windows Phone with ROMs and when the D1 came out it was eye opening. I never wanted to ROM again. then the D2 came. ugh. then the D3... double-ugh. now that i have the X, i'm happy to have a near-nexus device.
I'm reading all over the soak test is about 4.4 kit Kat on big red that's sounds promising and I think I just came in to the moto x party on time
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There is no need for dev imo.
This phone runs great and the minor things can be fixed with xposed.
The only thing i kinda miss is halo but i can live without it or could use a third part app for it.
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I have to agree with just about everyone else. I've always been a crack flasher. But I honestly feel this phone is almost PERFECT as is!
Also somewhat of a recovering crack flasher (coming from a GNex). At this point, I think Active Notifications and Touchless controls outweigh the urge to flash or even root. Even the Kit Kat itch is somewhat muted. Moto did an amazing job and all the people I've shown the features to seem to think so too.

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