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Custom roms are slooooooooooooooooow.....

I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?

What ROMs did you try? I've used DamageControl and am now on Darchdroid and have had no issues on either. Both run way faster and have way better battery life than stock. Everything works. There are tons of members here that would say the same thing...

What ROMs have you tried? Any ROM with an overclocked kernel will be faster than stock. All current ROMs also have working camera.

Are you waiting until everything finishes syncing? The first 20 minutes of your ROM experience will be a little slow as it pulls down whatever info you plugged in for Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc., but once that's done your custom ROM will be smooth sailing. I've used Fresh 2.0d, 2.1.2, PureHero, and now DarchDroid 2.7 and they've all been substantially faster than stock. Especially with OC and JIT, there's a tangible difference.
I'd trying something again and let everything sync up. I've been impressed by DarchDroid, but I'm also an AOSP fan.

What roms have you tried?
I use Buufed 2.0b and it is very fast. I used FreshToast 2.1, which was also fast until I jacked with the settings. Others are also fast as well.
If you are describing the first boot after flashing a rom, that may be because dalvik-cache needs to be built...this take a few minutes to do, but it is a one-time thing (unless you move to another rom or wipe your dalvik-cache).
abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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Its not like the developers left along time ago. All of them pushed out a final release before they left, and it was only 2 devs.
Also, they all run smoother then stock. Have you tried damagecontrol? Or try ANY of the overclocked roms. You can get OC on any rom now with separate flashable kernels.
Darchdroid is also the most basic rom you can use, but not basic in the area of customization. Its the only rom not built on htc framework, so there is close to zero bloat and it runs extremely smooth.

abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.

I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet

thatjerk said:
I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
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Yeah, I am going to agree. As far as overall speed, Darchdroid is the best. I'm also partial to Launcherpro over the included ADWLauncher. I have 7 homescreens full of stuff and it still runs fine.

Which version of Fresh did you use? I've had some issues with the earlier 2.x versions, but it's been pretty stable since 2.0d.
EDIT: FreshToast...I've ran that one for the longest time. The only time it would go slow on me is when I jacked with the settings in SetCPU.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em

wow such fast responses! lol
Sorry if I stepped on any toes but, I just tried a couple and got results that where no where near the instantaneous difference you got in the WinMo world. Maybe I should have stuck with it for a while longer....
I did have a little info up on Facebook but I REFUSE to twitter!! LMAO The contacts I have are numerous so maybe that's a contributing factor. I'm not sure. I really wanted a Froyo rom but, from what I understand, it's still in Beta.
I really just want something fast and reliable. I often use my bluetooth for HOURS on end so something less harsh on the battery would also be extremely helpful.
I will try whatever suggestions you guys have. I know you have been in the Android world way longer than me. I had XDAndroid on my TP but this is a dramatic difference.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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LMAO I got RickRoll'D

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4

illogic6 said:
Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
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You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.

illogic6 said:
You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
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I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?

illogic6 said:
Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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that's just sexy

abadasstanker69 said:
I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Yes. Wipe data, dalvik-cache, and sd-ext if you have one.
Flash the custom ROM. When it loads sign into your gmail and give it 5ish minutes to synch your calendar/contacts/mail from the cloud. Once that is completed, you'll want to head to the market and grab "overclock widget" and make sure you're clocked to appropriate speeds.
From then on, the speed improvement should be obvious.

Thinking of buying the N700 (switching from Galaxy Nexus)

Hey guys, just looking for you opinion on what I should expect when switching from Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy Note (N700) in terms of performance.
I mostly use the browser so I am most concerned with the browser performance. I have played a bit with one and could clearly see differences in performance compared to the buttery-smooth Galaxy Nexus. I think I could live with these minor shortcomings though, when I've got that HUGE screen. I also think I'd be better off with a bigger screen when I'm typing, because I type a lot, either in the browser or IM'ing with people. This is the main reason I want the Note.
Basically I want to know what you guys miss from your old phone, before the Note.

I've been toying with the idea of getting a Nexus just for the ability to switch between Tmobile and Att. What's stopping me is that I tried a S3 for a month but I kept coming back to the Note. The BIG SCREEN is really nice.
So far I have not found a JB rom for the Note that I like. They all seem so laggy compared to a CM9 rom with Apex and some minor UI tweeaks. Even stock TW roms that people swear a butter smooth seem laggy to me, ok not going between desktop screens but it is slow. If I were in your shoes, I would buy a used Note and give it a go but not be so quick to sell the Nexus.

The really big difference I can think of, switching from Gnex to Gnote is the very fast update that Google makes on the Gnex itself... When Google say that Gnex is their brand of phone to get the latest JB updates.. they really mean it to a tee. You get the best of both worlds that Google can deliver to your phone no question about that.
The only thing that's holding me from selling my Gnote and switching back to Gnex was and is still the fact on the WOW Factor that our phone makes to a lot of people. Whenever I stroll down Portsmouth to bars or drinking with my buddies.. it never fails to amaze me a stranger would right off comment and say.. " hey you got a nice phone there bud!".. I just smirked and smiled back at them.

I feel wait for note 2 bf4 taking any decision
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letters_to_cleo said:
The only thing that's holding me from selling my Gnote and switching back to Gnex was and is still the fact on the WOW Factor that our phone makes to a lot of people. Whenever I stroll down Portsmouth to bars or drinking with my buddies.. it never fails to amaze me a stranger would right off comment and say.. " hey you got a nice phone there bud!".. I just smirked and smiled back at them.
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And when there's noone around to WOW, I just pull it out of my jeans and WOW myself. Never fails.
Man, that screen............

tatkovladko said:
And when there's noone around to WOW, I just pull it out of my jeans and WOW myself. Never fails.
Man, that screen............
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lol.... ,
I can understand if a chick comes up to you and says.. hey.. you got a nice bulge on your pants, you bring out the phone and the chick says... Oh. I thought it's something else!
what a bummer!
anyway goin back, yeah the Note still a spectacle to have with.. I mean, it got a nice big screen, faster GPS and I can truly say, I had scribbled my signature once on an online cheque copy and sent it via email... how cool is that..,

Yeah, I'm definitely convinced now that I want it. And I'm ready to say (temporarily) good bye to Jelly Bean We are pretty sure that the Note 1 will be updated to Jelly Bean, right?

Given the scenario...yeah... But my constant rule is.. Never expect anything...if JB comes before this year ends then great! If doesn't, then that's good. At least there's something we can look forward to for early next year perhaps.
"Hope for the best, expect for the worst"
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teomor said:
Yeah, I'm definitely convinced now that I want it. And I'm ready to say (temporarily) good bye to Jelly Bean We are pretty sure that the Note 1 will be updated to Jelly Bean, right?
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Honestly, even if Jelly Bean does not trickle down to Note 1, I'm not bothered. Currently on Rocket ROM, previously used JellyCore v2 and I don't see any features that can sway me over. Even the "huge" upgrade from Gingerbread to ICS was a minor boost to me - only because of the feature to use voice-typing keyboard. I don't really see per-app notification settings or widgets that arrange automatically or Google Now or anything else particularly necessary. OK, "but what about project butter?!" some will say. I will say that on my 4.0.4 Note I don't feel sluggishness to make me want any speed improvements. And no, it's not a Note with the default apps that come with it - it's crammed with apps and I am a very heavy user.
Only gap-less audio playback and offline dictation might sway me over but definitely not a necessity.

I plan to use it with the stock ROM so Project Butter would probably make a lot of difference.

How does jellybean run on this lil guy

Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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I prefer cm10linero optimized odex version with blood kernel and feel it is silky smooth. There is so many ROMs out that it is a candy store with something for every taste. 4.1.2 version is standards now with 4.2 in works. Bang for bucks this cell has been very good and beyond reliable to me.
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md1008 said:
Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable

Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1

md1008 said:
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634

ReckYoChips said:
Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1

smartguy044 said:
take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
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Pretty much what I was going to say right to the last word (except I haven't owned an S3).

I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:

Bloodflame said:
I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
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Lol yeah if I do sell my gs3 I am sure I will miss the 2gb of ram. I am stalking eBay for a damn good deal
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1

Just scored a new one from some guy in Hong Kong on Ebay...its was as described for $117 with fee shipping. Just took 2 Weeks to get here...love auction sniper.
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ReckYoChips said:
Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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Can i flash this directly from stock gb?
THANK YOU!

No
1st get root
Get twrp or cwm installed
Rom wipe cwm or cache/dalvik cache/system wipe twrp
Now flash
Always make backup prior to above
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I've heard that CM10 can have trouble with 3rd party camera aps, such as bank check deposit etc. Anyone found that? If so what is the best option for that? I haven't flashed to JB yet mainly because I don't want to lose that checking account option.

That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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afwolfpacked said:
That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.

Caryllb said:
Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
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Well if you had a nandroid of both, you could just restore either whenever you wanted to, provided that you make a nandroid every time you change something.

Hmmmm. Cumbersome just to have check deposit. I'll have to think on this for a while. I suppose it takes a few minutes each time: make nandroid in CM 10, flash CM 9, deposit check, flash CM 10 and do this for each check. I don't do checks very often so it may still be worthwhile.
Do you happen to know if this is an issue being addressed and just might be fixed for, say, a CM11 release?

Let the RomGames begin!!

So I know its just out and google needs to release the 4.4 code, but aren't we all exited for ROMS!!!!!! So let the developers start doing their magic and giving it to us on the nexus 5...
What ROM are you most exited to see, and what are your most favourite features about the Nexus 5 and Android 4.4.
Happy posting
Don't forget, if you choose other, tell us which Rom you are looking forward to!!
NOTE!!! 1. I didn't have a nexus 4, so i don't know all the Roms and everything about them, and I own an S4 I9500, so you can know how I fell about custom Roms :/
2. I AM NOT SAYING ONE ROM IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER. This is just asking for opinions on what are you exited to see the most.

looking forward to some Paranoid Android custom DPI settings whoooooo

Looking forward to cm
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DU for life!! @Mazda :highfive:

CM is moving away from their original direction :sad:
never has been a fan of PA. Tried it a million times, but phone performance is just annoying. Right now i'm reverting back to stock from PA on my N4, because it freezes at least once every hour.
I guess I'll go with stock.

NYCHitman1 said:
DU for life!! @Mazda :highfive:
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Thats a new Rom for me, seems badass!!
Problem is that for my I9000 I had tons of Roms then I got the I9500 and was disappointed in the lack of Roms....Hopefully Nexus 5 will have tons of them!!

RasBean or Saber for me.
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Cyan or Carbon.
I honestly don't like any of the others. Loved Cyan on my N1, and NS. Loved Carbon on my N4. Can't wait to see what they're both like on the N5.
Cyan is mostly stable, and coming with less features. And Carbon is like the younger CM(mostly stable, with tons of features).

be good to see what direction PA is going to go as they said starting 4.4 they were changing direction at how they do things

wngmv said:
CM is moving away from their original direction :sad:
never has been a fan of PA. Tried it a million times, but phone performance is just annoying. Right now i'm reverting back to stock from PA on my N4, because it freezes at least once every hour.
I guess I'll go with stock.
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be good to see what direction PA is going to go as they said starting 4.4 they were changing direction at how they do things
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Thats the first I heard of this about PA seems like a pretty great Rom, hope they will fix any problems they have.

nabil alami said:
Thats the first I heard of this about PA seems like a pretty great Rom, hope they will fix any problems they have.
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PA is a great ROM imo never had any performance issues either in my case. used to be a flashaloic swell but stuck with it for ages

Roxas598 said:
PA is a great ROM imo never had any performance issues either in my case. used to be a flashaloic swell but stuck with it for ages
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This page was made for Flashaholics....HAHA

I have MIUI on my N4 atm.
Dont know if they will have a ROM for the N5 so I´ll try Carbon for my first time (heard a loft of good things about it)

You actually are saying which ROM is better. Why would anyone be "excited" for a inferior ROM?
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[Q] ROM recommendations PLZ?

I have an Atrix HD, rooted, with unlocked JB bootloader, and I've also done the MAXX battery MOD. I haven't had this phone long and it seems to be a bit laggy, and a battery hog on the stock firmware. I am not partial to JB or KK so I am pretty open to suggestions. All I am looking for is SPEED, STABILITY, and BATTERY LIFE, and of course the LEAST amount of bugs possible. TY all in advance! :good:

ROM recommendation posts are a dime a dozen around here, and the answer is always the same: figure it out for yourself by browsing the development forums for your phone, and flash the one that fits what you want.

Thanks
Dr. Orange said:
ROM recommendation posts are a dime a dozen around here, and the answer is always the same: figure it out for yourself by browsing the development forums for your phone, and flash the one that fits what you want.
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Thanks but thats what I've been doing for the past almost 2 weeks now. I only asked because there is ALOT of developement already for this device and it looks like EVERYTHING is buggy as Hell so far so I was really looking for a USEFUL suggestion. But thanks a bunch.

FireWire22 said:
Thanks but thats what I've been doing for the past almost 2 weeks now. I only asked because there is ALOT of developement already for this device and it looks like EVERYTHING is buggy as Hell so far so I was really looking for a USEFUL suggestion. But thanks a bunch.
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No, not everything is buggy as hell. The majority of them run just fine and are good enough for daily drivers. If you installed one, you'd see for yourself.
I understand that you want a perfect ROM but there isn't one. You've gotta take what minimal bad there is with the good. Even stock ROMs have bugs.
The best advice is to flash a ROM that sounds good and see if you like it. Hell, that's half the fun!

Thanks Dr. Orange
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No, not everything is buggy as hell. The majority of them run just fine and are good enough for daily drivers. If you installed one, you'd see for yourself.
I understand that you want a perfect ROM but there isn't one. You've gotta take what minimal bad there is with the good. Even stock ROMs have bugs.
The best advice is to flash a ROM that sounds good and see if you like it. Hell, that's half the fun!
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I understand what you are saying, and I have been checking them out, I'm on CM11 now, and have tried Holoblur, and a couple others. I've went through this with literally 13 devices now so I'm not new to this. I was simply asking the community for the best ones that they have used from their experience. I have asked this question on XDA about all of my other devices and normally people respond with just what I said before. Its just a lot easier when I can narrow it down between a handful of ROMs that are DD material.
What has been your favorite so far Doc?

Ah yes! Had to make sure you weren't just asking for the best instead of researching for yourself! I guess I could've been a little more helpful from the beginning...
My most important feature is pie controls, second is tied with customizing options and battery, So right now, carbonROM is perfect for me. I'm running the 8/04 jbbl build and it works great.
I have the MAXX battery mod so battery isn't as important, but I still want it to last all day.
Team Gummy works well too. The only build for our jbbl phone that works is the April build 2.0. It's light and battery life is good too. Also has pie, not as many customizable options.
Those are my KitKat choices, I'm not sure of the 4.3 Roms other than the last time I had a 4.3 PAC ROM installed it worked really well with excellent battery life. 4.3 Roms are arguably the most refined, but development has shifted towards KitKat obv.
That's pretty much all I know.

Awesome!
Dr. Orange said:
Ah yes! Had to make sure you weren't just asking for the best instead of researching for yourself! I guess I could've been a little more helpful from the beginning...
My most important feature is pie controls, second is tied with customizing options and battery, So right now, carbonROM is perfect for me. I'm running the 8/04 jbbl build and it works great.
I have the MAXX battery mod so battery isn't as important, but I still want it to last all day.
Team Gummy works well too. The only build for our jbbl phone that works is the April build 2.0. It's light and battery life is good too. Also has pie, not as many customizable options.
Those are my KitKat choices, I'm not sure of the 4.3 Roms other than the last time I had a 4.3 PAC ROM installed it worked really well with excellent battery life. 4.3 Roms are arguably the most refined, but development has shifted towards KitKat obv.
That's pretty much all I know.
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That my friend is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much for the input... I will definitely try your recommendations next. I also did the MAXX MOD on mine the other day with the EB40 battery and cutting of the inner frame, but just like you I definitely want it to be able to last all day. Lol, I know there is no perfect ROM, I just didn't wanna be crack flashing for the next couple months with as many nice sounding ROMs there are for this phone. Either way, your info is extremely appreciated, and thanks for the heads up on Gummy. I typically look at a ROM's OP first to look at the features then look through the last couple pages to see if and what issues it may have. It just got frustrating bc MOST posts end with people all talking about their damn RAZR's in the wrong forum lol. So thank you very much Doc.

Dr. Orange said:
Ah yes! Had to make sure you weren't just asking for the best instead of researching for yourself! I guess I could've been a little more helpful from the beginning...
My most important feature is pie controls, second is tied with customizing options and battery, So right now, carbonROM is perfect for me. I'm running the 8/04 jbbl build and it works great.
I have the MAXX battery mod so battery isn't as important, but I still want it to last all day.
Team Gummy works well too. The only build for our jbbl phone that works is the April build 2.0. It's light and battery life is good too. Also has pie, not as many customizable options.
Those are my KitKat choices, I'm not sure of the 4.3 Roms other than the last time I had a 4.3 PAC ROM installed it worked really well with excellent battery life. 4.3 Roms are arguably the most refined, but development has shifted towards KitKat obv.
That's pretty much all I know.
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4.3.1 unified build from 1 Feb 14 works well and has decent battery life with the battery mod, best battery life i have seen so far was on ATT's stock pre-heartbleed fix revision.

Thank you very much as well palm beach. I'm on Gummy 2.0 now (the one that works) that the doc suggested and I love it aside from some random systemui force closes so I think I will try your suggestion next lol.
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