Does anyone know yet which of these models(Z/ZL) are coming to the US? And maybe a release date?
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Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
Ambroos said:
Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
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The ZL will have LTE but not the Z which will only be HSPA+ (still very fast, I get upto 6.5 Mbps on my Xperia T on at&t on their HSPA+ network).
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
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Not really, considering AT&T's transfer caps.
Even if I had LTE available in my area, I'd take an unlocked HSPA+ device over a carrier-mangled locked-down LTE device without any hesitation.
LTE isn't all it is cracked up to be, once you take into account monthly transfer limitations (Since AT&T now throttles "unlimited" users, there is no such thing as "unlimited" any more.), especially if you have access to HSPA+.
LTE was more critical for Verizon users, since CDMA2000 hit a wall without an upgrade path far earlier than UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ did.
I'm really hoping the rumors that the Z will be sold directly in a timely fashion are going to be true.
The ZL will be available from AT&T as far as I can tell, but that version will suffer from complete lockdown in addition to traditional AT&T firmware mutilation.
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I'm really hoping the rumors that the Z will be sold directly in a timely fashion are going to be true.
The ZL will be available from AT&T as far as I can tell, but that version will suffer from complete lockdown in addition to traditional AT&T firmware mutilation.
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Its still up in the air about the Z availability in the US. Hoping its sold directly too.
AT&T isn't picking up the Z or ZL. but both should work on its network.
So till now, AT&T was the only carrier that sold the sony smartphones, with the only exception I think was the playstation phone on verizon.
So the most logical thing for me is Sony to push again through AT&T, because:
1) They already have done business in the past, and have worked out the business side, so it's a safe bet, they might try to work deals with other carriers later through the year to have bigger exposure to the market.
2) It's a flagship phone, Sony will try to get it in the hands of as many people, the comment that it'll be available only full price in retail channels made me laugh The situation is so heated, that they'll have to loose ton of money, just to try to snatch some market, to have a chance to stay a player in this market. They surely want to be in this market, why would they make the Z and show it at CES when no other big name was revealing top models - so they grab the spotlight at CES, and the phone doesn't get lost in all the announcements coming in Feb from the mobile congress.
3) AT&T would love to have another strong horse in the race so they are not dependent only on Apple or Samsung for the best devices they offer. For AT&T the bigger portfolio of manufacturers that want to move devices on their network gives them edge on pricing and other deal terms.
So yeah, I can bet money that in couple of weeks, there will be announcement/leak that AT&T will carry a Z/ZL phone, with LTE of course.
Spectre51 has said it before, AT&T won't be carrying the ZL or Z. The ZL will be sold unlocked through Sony's own retail channels, the Z may be sold unlocked too.
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Its still up in the air about the Z availability in the US. Hoping its sold directly too.
AT&T isn't picking up the Z or ZL. but both should work on its network.
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What's your source?
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What's your source?
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He is the source. As far as I know he works at AT&T but I'm not sure.
I'm starting to like this phone. I'm currently on T-Mobile so I probably will only see 3G speeds correct? If so maybe StraightTalk could be an option as my contract expires in June of this year.
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So yeah, I can bet money that in couple of weeks, there will be announcement/leak that AT&T will carry a Z/ZL phone, with LTE of course.
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I'll take your money if you want. Its not happening.
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I wonder why AT&T would skip out on such a great device. Especially considering what appears to be a long term relationship with Sony. It doesn't make much sense...
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They were supposed to pick up the ZL but backed out a month or so ago. They will be picking up the Fall device from Sony and it's supposed to be a flagship phone.
I asked one of the AT&T associates and they confirmed they will be getting zl but not sure about the z
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I asked one of the AT&T associates and they confirmed they will be getting zl but not sure about the z
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Hmm I would consider buying a factory unlocked ZL then and using it on ATT's network - less bloat.
encouraged eatehii
i really want thi sphone!!
Fingers crossed on att with lte!
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:sigh: I give up.
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Guys I've gotta say that spectre is usually right on about stuff like this. I've seen him in the ion forums and he seems to have insider information.
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What is up with the US not getting an official release date?
Also, I can't understand why AT&T wouldn't pick this phone up considering they offer the TL and the Z is clearly Sony's best offering...probably ever? I'm not a dedicated enthusiast that buys phones unlocked; I'm due for an upgrade on AT&T and want a Z. I'm just annoyed it doesn't seem AT&T will be carrying it and I'm just wondering why? There's demand!
I guess I'll have to settle for Samsung's (inevitably plastic) S4 offering.
So you can feel what if feels like to be a non-American for once
Sorry
Haha. Totally.
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Don't worry, Canada is getting shafted too.
Europe has phones (except iphone) USA has consoles, Japan is always lucky
I wanted the Optimus G but it never launched in the UK. I can also remember wanting the Evo, also never came to the UK.
Fact is, the XZ will go to america, but the carriers over there dominate the manufacturers, therefore leading to a delayed launch because they want the handsets highly customised.
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What i heard is that the usa model XZ is getting a snapdragon 600 cpu! Those lucky basterds haha i wish my XZ had that chip. Snapdragon pro is not bad, but snapdragon 600 kicks some serious ass
Yeah I think you guys should blame your carriers rather than Sony.
They should stop putting in so many conditions in front of Sony.
Has anyone heard if/when the Z will be released unlocked at the Sony stores/online here in the US? At MWC they said it was "arriving in 60 countries over 5 continents this week".
You could just buy it unlocked or wait for the ZL. The US is getting both, just not from carriers. You're not getting as much as you think you are
Actually...I think ATT is picking up one, just not sure
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Japan is always lucky
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Except almost everything here in Japan is severely region-locked. Docomo XZ (SO-02E) bootloader locked, can't be unlocked, no way to buy an unlocked version, and significantly different hardware that we can't simply flash 660x ROMs. Developer activity also pales in comparison to XDA. Even many consumer electronics (TVs, cameras, audio players, etc) are locked to Japanese-menu only (all other language options disabled).
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Except almost everything here in Japan is severely region-locked. Docomo XZ (SO-02E) bootloader locked, can't be unlocked, no way to buy an unlocked version, and significantly different hardware that we can't simply flash 660x ROMs. Developer activity also pales in comparison to XDA. Even many consumer electronics (TVs, cameras, audio players, etc) are locked to Japanese-menu only (all other language options disabled).
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Okay so always tough luck
justamelvin said:
What is up with the US not getting an official release date?
Also, I can't understand why AT&T wouldn't pick this phone up considering they offer the TL and the Z is clearly Sony's best offering...probably ever? I'm not a dedicated enthusiast that buys phones unlocked; I'm due for an upgrade on AT&T and want a Z. I'm just annoyed it doesn't seem AT&T will be carrying it and I'm just wondering why? There's demand!
I guess I'll have to settle for Samsung's (inevitably plastic) S4 offering.
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Plenty of indications the Z is going to be offered unlocked directly from Sony.
As to AT&T availability:
1) That's AT&T's decision, not Sony
2) Why do you insist on bending over and accepting AT&T's shaft? You should realize by now that AT&T always mangles their devices severely, introducing bugs frequently not present in nearly identical international variants (look at Samsing I777 vs. I9100 - every I777 firmware release has been a steaming pile of ****. Many I9100 firmwares from Samsung aren't too hot either, but even the worst I9100 firmware release imaginable blows AT&T's best I777 releases out of the water...), and in addition, they force bootloader locking whenever they can so you HAVE to accept their crippled firmware.
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Has anyone heard if/when the Z will be released unlocked at the Sony stores/online here in the US? At MWC they said it was "arriving in 60 countries over 5 continents this week".
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I keep on hearing rumors to this end... I poked at one of my devrel contacts and they said they couldn't yet comment on availability, but would hopefully have more info post-MWC. (Sony's devrel team has been insanely busy prepping for MWC.)
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Don't worry, Canada is getting shafted too.
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Let's say - it's not very likely...
check it out, i can't post links but the sony mobile USA site has the Z coming soon
Sony mobile site has said that for a month and a half.
Entropy512 said:
Plenty of indications the Z is going to be offered unlocked directly from Sony.
As to AT&T availability:
1) That's AT&T's decision, not Sony
2) Why do you insist on bending over and accepting AT&T's shaft? You should realize by now that AT&T always mangles their devices severely, introducing bugs frequently not present in nearly identical international variants (look at Samsing I777 vs. I9100 - every I777 firmware release has been a steaming pile of ****. Many I9100 firmwares from Samsung aren't too hot either, but even the worst I9100 firmware release imaginable blows AT&T's best I777 releases out of the water...), and in addition, they force bootloader locking whenever they can so you HAVE to accept their crippled firmware.
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$$$
i can't justify buying an unlocked phone when i'll be on a contract anyway. subsidized pricing every two years is worth it, imo.
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i can't justify buying an unlocked phone when i'll be on a contract anyway. subsidized pricing every two years is worth it, imo.
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or one year like me if your a legacy Cingular main account holder lol
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i can't justify buying an unlocked phone when i'll be on a contract anyway. subsidized pricing every two years is worth it, imo.
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Again, why do you insist on accepting AT&T's shaft?
Subsidized pricing carries a MINIMUM of $450 (if you get an early upgrade at 18 months) cost penalty over an unsubsidized MVNO such as Straight Talk, to get you only a $300 subsidy. The math just doesn't work out.
Straight Talk: $45/mo for unlimited voice, unlimited texts, 2GB data ("unlimited" but you get nastygrams at 2GB)
AT&T: $70/mo for 450 minutes voice, no texts, 3GB data with massive overage penalties if you go over, plus AT&T loves to put data-eating bugs into their firmwares to ensure you hit that ceiling (see the AP Mobile widget in I777 UCKH7 for example... That sent tons of people into overages. Those that figured out it was a firmware bug were able to get refunds, but how many people just got shafted because they didn't know that AT&T pulled a shady trick like that?)
That's a $25/month cost penalty for inferior service, which adds up to $300/year. Since the minimum upgrade interval is 18 months (not 12) and the maximum subsidy discount is $300 - you're losing money.
Subsidized pricing every 2 years is NOT worth it. It's a scam.
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Again, why do you insist on accepting AT&T's shaft?
Subsidized pricing carries a MINIMUM of $450 (if you get an early upgrade at 18 months) cost penalty over an unsubsidized MVNO such as Straight Talk, to get you only a $300 subsidy. The math just doesn't work out.
Straight Talk: $45/mo for unlimited voice, unlimited texts, 2GB data ("unlimited" but you get nastygrams at 2GB)
AT&T: $70/mo for 450 minutes voice, no texts, 3GB data with massive overage penalties if you go over, plus AT&T loves to put data-eating bugs into their firmwares to ensure you hit that ceiling (see the AP Mobile widget in I777 UCKH7 for example... That sent tons of people into overages. Those that figured out it was a firmware bug were able to get refunds, but how many people just got shafted because they didn't know that AT&T pulled a shady trick like that?)
That's a $25/month cost penalty for inferior service, which adds up to $300/year. Since the minimum upgrade interval is 18 months (not 12) and the maximum subsidy discount is $300 - you're losing money.
Subsidized pricing every 2 years is NOT worth it. It's a scam.
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Basically this! Hopefully, Sony will have the device on their US mobile site for sale, so I can enjoy the ZL with my T-mobile $30 plan
I want to ORDER IT SO BAD! But havent seen an ZL yet and only the Z but it says for HSPA no 1900mhz? is that true? so no 3G for AT&T?
hyelton said:
I want to ORDER IT SO BAD! But havent seen an ZL yet and only the Z but it says for HSPA no 1900mhz? is that true? so no 3G for AT&T?
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the z will be released in the us this month, so just wait a bit and you might get lte as well as 3g on att.
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the z will be released in the us this month, so just wait a bit and you might get lte as well as 3g on att.
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There is a page on Sony Developer World named "LTE™ coverage for Xperia™ smartphones", and it appears to clarify LTE bands on the Xperia Z base model.
I can't post the link to the page, because I have less than ten posts.
I don't Care about lte. I just don't want edge lol. Hspa is good enough for me. Also I found an Xperia z for 640 shipped USD. Which I would end up paying 699+ a ton ofbtax from att. So I jusy listed my note 2 For sale online so I guess Il stick to this x10 for a little. I'm just tired of Samsung I guess I'm bored with there design and touchwiz.
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I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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did you buy the 6603 or 6602 version? if 6603 then yes if 6602, u will get HSPA+
I just got a C6602 replacing my Nexus 4, HSPA+ speeds are the same on a $30 plan T-Mobile SIM.
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
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Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
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Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
amdhunter said:
Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
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That is a good option so go for it. The only thing I wonder about is how it can have the US warranty since the C6602 isn't sold here, officially. It is an imported unit and they are usually without US warranties. If Sony offers a better policy than Samsung for example and honor the warranty, it is great news for me too. My previous imported phones has been the Note and Note II and Samsung doesn't cover them under the US warranty so that is why I think it is surprising to see it for that C6602.
its never too late?
it may be too late but negri electronics has it for 581.50 plus a $10 coupon that brings it down to 571.50, no tax free shipping
got it on ebay from HK user...free BT lol not that i will use it but gonna bundle with my old phone and sell it. O and its 591 with free shipping, takes a while though :/
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
teamHTC said:
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Are in in the USA?
If you're not under contract, I'd just get a Straightalk t-mobile sim. What Straightalk does is " rent" other carriers networks, includung both AT&T and T-mobile. Straightalk doesn't support LTE. With T-mobile' awesome HSPA+42 speeds and great coverage, you won't miss LTE, plus it's only $45 bucks a month. HSPA+42 is really close to LTE but with better coverage. One of the joys of having an unlocked phone is freedom to choose a cheap carrier.
The reason T-mobile doesn't suck as much as it used to is because of the failed merger of AT&T and T-mobile. It gave them extra money to upgrade their network and more bands.
It seems there is a model that supports AT&T LTE, the C6906, but don't count me on it. Refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438443&page=2
If you end up getting a z1 model c6903 which doesn't have LTE on AT&T, and must have AT&T, I'd again recommend a straightalk AT&T sim so you are not paying for LTE which the c6903 can't use. On AT&T HSPA+21 is the fastest you'll get.
If you're close to the end of your contract, I'd just get a C6903 and switch when you finish out the contract.
you will get hspa+ but no lte
That is on AT&T.. On T-Mobile, you can get LTE!
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I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Maybe if you searched before making new thread you would have seen that there are at least 3 threads on this topic, which have all answered you question.
I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
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I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
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yeah, im just wondering if this even exists. if not then ill go ahead and purchase my z1, because I just prefer the design and quality over any at&t phone and although lte is a big deal, hey im an android guy ill get over it in 2 months when a new phone comes out and I sell it. LOL and as for the galaxy active.......HIDEOUS HIDEOUS HIDEOUS! ill take a z1 with no internet at all over a gs active ....why samsung.... WHY! you make beautiful tvs but why the ugly phones!!!!!
PLEASE only respond if you live in the US and use T-Mobile (preferred) or AT&T AND have purchased the US version of the XP.................
Not sure if the US Xperia X Performance has been made available yet, but if so, can anyone tell me if it can get VoLTE on either T-Mobile or AT&T? Just wonder if radio/signal-wise it's any different than the int'l XP I have now.
Thanks!
what is the model of the intl version? we can lookup the whitepaper on them and compare the radios
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what is the model of the intl version? we can lookup the whitepaper on them and compare the radios
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Same model #s: F8132 for dual SIM (mine), F8131 for single-SIM.
they're the exact same radio according to Sony. so hardware wise if intl can do it so can us version. but do the carriers allow it is a whole other issue.
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they're the exact same radio according to Sony. so hardware wise if intl can do it so can us version. but do the carriers allow it is a whole other issue.
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Ok thanks for checking acme! Well the XP has all the same bands as T-Mobile, so they should! Though I found out that XPs used in other countries like Hong Kong DO get VoLTE (I've seen screenshots too), but in the US, both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM cards don't enable that. Weird! I'd still like someone WITH a US XP to confirm that they do or don't have VoLTE though on AT&T and/or T-Mobile.
Yeah like today I was in downtown Chicago with family, and like my parents have the Sony Xperia Z1s (locked phone from T-Mobile). We were down by Navy Pier (by Lake Michigan), and my dad's Z1s (released Jan 2014) was getting better reception than my brand new int'l XP (unlocked not through T-Mobile but from Sony b/c Sony are idiots who don't release phones through carriers anymore and I hate them for it lol).
Now, I thought this was maybe b/c their phones were from T-Mobile so they'd been "configured" to their network, but then my sister's b/f was saying that some of the older model phones have better radio reception than the newer ones b/c the newer ones have more crap CRAMMED into them, which can impede radio reception, despite the XP having a polycarbonate (aka plastic lol) frame which is supposed give you better reception than metal would.
You think that's it? Or do you think it has something to do with the XP not being "configured" by T-Mobile??
Thanks.
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Ok thanks for checking acme! Well the XP has all the same bands as T-Mobile, so they should! Though I found out that XPs used in other countries like Hong Kong DO get VoLTE (I've seen screenshots too), but in the US, both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM cards don't enable that. Weird! I'd still like someone WITH a US XP to confirm that they do or don't have VoLTE though on AT&T and/or T-Mobile.
Yeah like today I was in downtown Chicago with family, and like my parents have the Sony Xperia Z1s (locked phone from T-Mobile). We were down by Navy Pier (by Lake Michigan), and my dad's Z1s (released Jan 2014) was getting better reception than my brand new int'l XP (unlocked not through T-Mobile but from Sony b/c Sony are idiots who don't release phones through carriers anymore and I hate them for it lol).
Now, I thought this was maybe b/c their phones were from T-Mobile so they'd been "configured" to their network, but then my sister's b/f was saying that some of the older model phones have better radio reception than the newer ones b/c the newer ones have more crap CRAMMED into them, which can impede radio reception, despite the XP having a polycarbonate (aka plastic lol) frame which is supposed give you better reception than metal would.
You think that's it? Or do you think it has something to do with the XP not being "configured" by T-Mobile??
Thanks.
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i'd bet money it has something to do with a configuration. If Sony already designed a phone where all the radios work why would they break it in later iterations, doesn't make sense. it's also illegal to say the phone can do this and that when it actually can't.
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i'd bet money it has something to do with a configuration. If Sony already designed a phone where all the radios work why would they break it in later iterations, doesn't make sense. it's also illegal to say the phone can do this and that when it actually can't.
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Ok then how do I reconfigure it? lol If it was that the radio was just better/stronger on the Z1s that's one thing, but if it was that my XP somehow wasn't configured "well enough" to T-Mobile's network, despite having all the same bands, then how do I fix that? lol
It could be that the phones are designed a certain way but then the carriers (when they get them to sell) do some extra configuring or tweaking too?
I remember being again in another part of downtown 2 years ago and 2 friends of mine who both had Sprint and the same phone (Galaxy S3) had differing reception. One had all 5 bars lit up, while the other who was only sitting 5 feet away, had like no reception. WTF? lol That's what happened yest except 2 different phones though both are Sony, oh and mine of course is unlocked int'l version.
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Ok then how do I reconfigure it? lol If it was that the radio was just better/stronger on the Z1s that's one thing, but if it was that my XP somehow wasn't configured "well enough" to T-Mobile's network, despite having all the same bands, then how do I fix that? lol
It could be that the phones are designed a certain way but then the carriers (when they get them to sell) do some extra configuring or tweaking too?
I remember being again in another part of downtown 2 years ago and 2 friends of mine who both had Sprint and the same phone (Galaxy S3) had differing reception. One had all 5 bars lit up, while the other who was only sitting 5 feet away, had like no reception. WTF? lol That's what happened yest except 2 different phones though both are Sony, oh and mine of course is unlocked int'l version.
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you probably can't do anything. it'd be on the carrier end.
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you probably can't do anything. it'd be on the carrier end.
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F'ers!! lol
Thanks anyway acme.
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F'ers!! lol
Thanks anyway acme.
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Just clarify, volte is locked only to tmobile phones unless the company goes get the phone certified (zte axon 7 went this route and HTC 10)
SovPanda said:
Just clarify, volte is locked only to tmobile phones unless the company goes get the phone certified (zte axon 7 went this route and HTC 10)
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Sov,
Yeah I know. All I REALLY care about is that I can get Band 12 for data from T-Mobile on my int'l Sony Xperia X Performance phone. I think I can, b/c that has NOTHING to do with VoLTE, which only is used DURING phone calls. I don't care about having Band 12 during phone calls, but I DO care about having it when not on a call.
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Sov,
Yeah I know. All I REALLY care about is that I can get Band 12 for data from T-Mobile on my int'l Sony Xperia X Performance phone. I think I can, b/c that has NOTHING to do with VoLTE, which only is used DURING phone calls. I don't care about having Band 12 during phone calls, but I DO care about having it when not on a call.
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Band 12 works but you gotta find it like a unicorn
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Band 12 works but you gotta find it like a unicorn
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Haha..........so you have the int'l Sony Xperia X Perf on T-Mobile AND live in the U.S.??? Or know someone that does?
Well I live in Chicago which right now doesn't have Band 12 from T-Mobile. HOWEVER, a few mos ago T-Mobile bought a ton of Band 12 from an AT&T subsidiary, and so now it's only a matter of time before my entire area gets it (pending FCC approval). They say it could be as early as later this year or latest is prob next June. I'll know when it's available b/c T-Mobile will announce but I can also check their spectrum map too. When the area covered by the green circle around Chicago becomes "magenta" and has a bunch of circled 12s put into it, then that'll mean it's live. Can't wait!!
RockStar2005 said:
Haha..........so you have the int'l Sony Xperia X Perf on T-Mobile AND live in the U.S.??? Or know someone that does?
Well I live in Chicago which right now doesn't have Band 12 from T-Mobile. HOWEVER, a few mos ago T-Mobile bought a ton of Band 12 from an AT&T subsidiary, and so now it's only a matter of time before my entire area gets it (pending FCC approval). They say it could be as early as later this year or latest is prob next June. I'll know when it's available b/c T-Mobile will announce but I can also check their spectrum map too. When the area covered by the green circle around Chicago becomes "magenta" and has a bunch of circled 12s put into it, then that'll mean it's live. Can't wait!!
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
SovPanda said:
Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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Oh wow! That's great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have T-Mobile too though????!
I just wanna be able to get reception (data) in certain areas in downtown like at the Ogilvie Metra Station basement, Untitled club on Kinzie, etc. I'm hoping that Band 12/700 MHz will make that happen. But also for when I'm indoors in certain places in the suburbs.
Thanks for sharing this great info!! I figured it would but wasn't sure. I think the ppl who said no were thinking of VoLTE, or aka having 4G LTE data and/or voice DURING calls.
SovPanda said:
Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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So do you have T-Mobile too?
RockStar2005 said:
So do you have T-Mobile too?
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Yes sir, going to complain though to Sony, if a brand like zte can get certified to use t-mobile's volte than they should be able to >:/
SovPanda said:
Yes sir, going to complain though to Sony, if a brand like zte can get certified to use t-mobile's volte than they should be able to >:/
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Awesome! Good to know!!
Haha...........I already tried doing that. I even had someone at T-Mobile's "Network team" contact their "contact" over at Sony Mobile about that issue. Last I heard, they never heard back from the Sony guy. lol But go ahead.........can't hurt!
I couldn't agree more. It's ****ing BS. It's the least they could do after not giving the US Z5 and X Perf a working fingerprint sensor. lol