[Q] Google Play Store w/out sim card? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I recently picked up a cappy (SGH-i897) as a backup device.
Quickly realized it takes a normal sized sim instead of the one I've got in my GS3 (also ATT), so I have sim adapters coming.
I rooted using the corn kernal and clockwork recovery. SU is installed
Then I moved on to a different ROM -
First I wiped everything - cache, dalvik cache, full factory wipe, batt stats -
I flashed CM10 and the corresponding GApps from goo.im
No Play Store no Google anything I"m used to seeing on my GS3 with cm and gapps flashed-
So I wanted 10.1 anyway and I thought there was a possibility something went wrong with gapps -
I flashed cm 10.1 and the matching gapps again
Again still no play store - even if i manually install the play store (dl the .apk and install on the phone) it loads up and crashes instantly
Tried clearing the app's cache and clearing the app;s data - it just does the same thing - it pops up on the screen for a sec and dies
So my big ? is - Is this problem linked to me not having a sim card in the phone? Will the play store only work if you have one?
Any help is appreciated...

Android Market?
cpolly69 said:
So I recently picked up a cappy (SGH-i897) as a backup device.
Quickly realized it takes a normal sized sim instead of the one I've got in my GS3 (also ATT), so I have sim adapters coming.
I rooted using the corn kernal and clockwork recovery. SU is installed
Then I moved on to a different ROM -
First I wiped everything - cache, dalvik cache, full factory wipe, batt stats -
I flashed CM10 and the corresponding GApps from goo.im
No Play Store no Google anything I"m used to seeing on my GS3 with cm and gapps flashed-
So I wanted 10.1 anyway and I thought there was a possibility something went wrong with gapps -
I flashed cm 10.1 and the matching gapps again
Again still no play store - even if i manually install the play store (dl the .apk and install on the phone) it loads up and crashes instantly
Tried clearing the app's cache and clearing the app;s data - it just does the same thing - it pops up on the screen for a sec and dies
So my big ? is - Is this problem linked to me not having a sim card in the phone? Will the play store only work if you have one?
Any help is appreciated...
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Rather than Google Play, your ROM probably has Android Market.
To get Google Play, it may be as simple as opening Android Market, which will tell you that you need to update to Google Play, which it will do for you. If not, then you need to download and the APK from somewhere. (Like here: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/06/download-new-google-play-store-version-3-4-6/)

Zpravodajec said:
Rather than Google Play, your ROM probably has Android Market.
To get Google Play, it may be as simple as opening Android Market, which will tell you that you need to update to Google Play, which it will do for you. If not, then you need to download and the APK from somewhere. (Like here: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/06/download-new-google-play-store-version-3-4-6/)
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No, he should be using Google Play since he's on Jellybean ROMs. If he was on Eclair/Froyo/GB I would say yes.
The fact of the matter is Play Store should be included in the gapps package you flashed and shouldn't be affected by whether you have a sim card installed or not. I would suggest verifying that you downloaded the correct gapps for the version you are using. If you did download the right one, maybe it was a bad download so try again.

thanks for the responses folks
i got gapps from the same place i got them from when i rooted and flashed cm to my gs3
goo.im
there's a chart on there that i used that shows you what gapps correspond to your version of cm
i'm on cm10.1 (kernel 3.0.54-geedcf0c) based off of android 4.2.1 and gapps -jb-20121212
anyone know if what order you flash it in makes a diff?
i flashed gapps first both times - right before cm
i will flash it again if someone thinks it will make a diff - not sure if i need a wipe and everything first or i can just do it
keep in mind - i actually google play in my apps tray - it just crashes every time i attempt to launch it

cpolly69 said:
thanks for the responses folks
i got gapps from the same place i got them from when i rooted and flashed cm to my gs3
goo.im
there's a chart on there that i used that shows you what gapps correspond to your version of cm
i'm on cm10.1 (kernel 3.0.54-geedcf0c) based off of android 4.2.1 and gapps -jb-20121212
anyone know if what order you flash it in makes a diff?
i flashed gapps first both times - right before cm
i will flash it again if someone thinks it will make a diff - not sure if i need a wipe and everything first or i can just do it
keep in mind - i actually google play in my apps tray - it just crashes every time i attempt to launch it
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I would think gapps is a package of apk's mostly, and so flash only after everything else just like you would regular apps ( if you would be able to reach them..)

danigrad said:
I would think gapps is a package of apk's mostly, and so flash only after everything else just like you would regular apps ( if you would be able to reach them..)
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awesome!!
the order def makes a difference !
thank you
i just booted into rec and installed again without wipe or anything and i'm off and running - setting up Google acct now
thanks again

Nice!:highfive:

hey thanks (just one more time)
from here i'm assuming i can just get my sim adapter kit and put my sim in there from my gs3 - boot up and i'm using it like normal?
anyone know this from experience?

cpolly69 said:
hey thanks (just one more time)
from here i'm assuming i can just get my sim adapter kit and put my sim in there from my gs3 - boot up and i'm using it like normal?
anyone know this from experience?
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Glad you got the other stuff working. To answer your last question, technically yes that's all you have to do. I say technically because sometimes during a flash you can loose your imei or a couple other things.
But start by just trying to pop it in and if it doesn't work we can trouble shoot from there.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app

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[Q] Getting just Market from gapps

I'm running Aosp's Gingerbread Alpha on my Hero, but I haven't been able to get any of Cyanogen's gapps files to install. Every time I reboot after installing a gapps pack I go straight to boot-looping. The phone works fine though without any gapps installed though.
I'm thinking that one of the many apps in gapps isn't compatible, and causing the reboot. I have a backed up copy of my Vending-2.apk, but nothing else. When I go to open market, it immediately closes -- probably because it never presents me with a TOS screen.
What other apks do I need to make *just* Market work?
I could not get the market to load with the 10/25 gapps.. I used the 10/20 gapps and everything loaded no problem...
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
Weird! For me, the 12/25 gapps were the only ones that wouldn't cause a continuous reboot cycle. I installed them after I'd already booted into Gingerbread once, per the instructions.
I like having a clan system, so I was happy to see that Titanium Backup was on there and would let me remove unwanted gapps in "Chuck Norris Mode"
HensonDSturgill said:
I'm running Aosp's Gingerbread Alpha on my Hero, but I haven't been able to get any of Cyanogen's gapps files to install. Every time I reboot after installing a gapps pack I go straight to boot-looping. The phone works fine though without any gapps installed though.
I'm thinking that one of the many apps in gapps isn't compatible, and causing the reboot. I have a backed up copy of my Vending-2.apk, but nothing else. When I go to open market, it immediately closes -- probably because it never presents me with a TOS screen.
What other apks do I need to make *just* Market work?
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i dunno if this will work for you but i used these gapps....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782320 for my set up im using firerats mod with cm 6.1(s-off) and when that flashed only market, talk and i think lilke the google search was there and thats it

No gapps package works!

This topic has probably popped up alot. Any help is always apprecieated!
So i installed cm 9 on my og droid. Everything runs great, however one slight problem.
Ive installed 4 different gapps packages for Android 4.0.x, and not a single one work. Before each flash, i did the standard wipe cache, dalvik cache, and even data! yet only one actually installed the play store, and i kept getting a server error. I tried researching how to fix that, but none of those solutions worked, and for somereason there is no fix permissions option in cwm revoery. Once again thanks for readi and any help is always apprecieated.
BradlyeG said:
This topic has probably popped up alot. Any help is always apprecieated!
So i installed cm 9 on my og droid. Everything runs great, however one slight problem.
Ive installed 4 different gapps packages for Android 4.0.x, and not a single one work. Before each flash, i did the standard wipe cache, dalvik cache, and even data! yet only one actually installed the play store, and i kept getting a server error. I tried researching how to fix that, but none of those solutions worked, and for somereason there is no fix permissions option in cwm revoery. Once again thanks for readi and any help is always apprecieated.
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Unfortunately the standard GAPPs packages for standard phones are too large for the Motorola Droid/Milestone
There isn't enough space in the phone's memory dedicated to the system, try searching around the Rom's thread(s) you are trying to use and find one there.
For example, Kfazz's CM10 has it's GAPPs as a mediafire link in the first post.
Beauenheim said:
Unfortunately the standard GAPPs packages for standard phones are too large for the Motorola Droid/Milestone
There isn't enough space in the phone's memory dedicated to the system, try searching around the Rom's thread(s) you are trying to use and find one there.
For example, Kfazz's CM10 has it's GAPPs as a mediafire link in the first post.
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I apprecieate the reply, but Kfazz's gapps package is one of the ones i used, and its not working. My account wont sync contacts and google play continues to give a server error. Im not really sure what to do because im tired of downloading and installing packages that do nothing.

[Q] Not sure which gapps should be available after flashing custom ROM and gapps

Hi folks,
I've had a good search around but not managed to figure this one out. I've just flashed CM10.1 first nightly and gapps-jb-20130301 using cwm 6.0.3.2 on my M7 (Orange UK, HTCDev unlocked). I followed the instructions on codeworkx' thread, doing a factory reset/wipe after flashing.
Now the phone works great, and the gapps install obviously did something, because I have Play Store installed. However there don't seem to be any of the other standard Google apps installed. I had to install Play Music, GMail, Chrome, Maps, Youtube myself, and I can't find Car Home anywhere. I was expecting to have to install some of the apps which are available in the Play Store, but things like Car Home aren't available in there.
Does anyone know if this is supposed to be the case? Or is there some way I can check if the gapps install went wrong somewhere (there was no error message in the cwm console)?
Thanks in advance,
Jon
jondrums said:
Hi folks,
I've had a good search around but not managed to figure this one out. I've just flashed CM10.1 first nightly and gapps-jb-20130301 using cwm 6.0.3.2 on my M7 (Orange UK, HTCDev unlocked). I followed the instructions on codeworkx' thread, doing a factory reset/wipe after flashing.
Now the phone works great, and the gapps install obviously did something, because I have Play Store installed. However there don't seem to be any of the other standard Google apps installed. I had to install Play Music, GMail, Chrome, Maps, Youtube myself, and I can't find Car Home anywhere. I was expecting to have to install some of the apps which are available in the Play Store, but things like Car Home aren't available in there.
Does anyone know if this is supposed to be the case? Or is there some way I can check if the gapps install went wrong somewhere (there was no error message in the cwm console)?
Thanks in advance,
Jon
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Hmmm... Looks like the right gapps but to be sure here is the link from CM http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip but looks good. You should have Gmail and youtube maps and navigation. Don't know for sure about car home but sounds right. Try reinstalling it. After wipe the cache. If it still isn't working try install Team Win Recovery and then flash gapps again and wipe cache.
Thanks for the help. I downloaded it again and the MD5 is the same as the one I installed. Tried flashing it again with the same results, so maybe it's something specific with this version. Anyway I'll carry on for now because the phone is setup and happy for a bit. Most of the Google apps I can get from Play Store anyway. Would like to get Car Home going at some point though. Next time I wipe the thing I'll try with Team WIn.
The newest gapps for 4.2.2 do not install any apps besides the play store and play services. That's it. Everything will need to be downloaded thereafter.
BAM1789 said:
The newest gapps for 4.2.2 do not install any apps besides the play store and play services. That's it. Everything will need to be downloaded thereafter.
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I see, so seeing as Car Home isn't in the store, any ideas where to find it? I found an older version in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257329 but I presume there'll be a more updated one for 4.2.2 somewhere.]
Thanks for the info.
Just to follow this up, the package in the above link works fine so far.
jondrums said:
Just to follow this up, the package in the above link works fine so far.
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I just looked at my phone (CM 10.1) and I have no Car Home.
Just checked on my mate's Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 and he doesn't have it either, so I guess that's that one answered
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

Install & run Android Marshmallow on the M7 - VanirAOSP ROM - UPDATED 4/24/16

There is a way to get Marshmallow on the HTC ONE Sprint M7, it's called VanirAOSP ROM. This is a great in most ways, and it's now my daily driver, but be very careful, I almost bricked my phone a few times in setting things up. Here are some tips from what I learned.
Installation instructions (learned from this video, other sources, and hard work):
1) Unlock bootloader.
2) Install custom recovery like TRWP. If you have an old version of TWRP, upgrade it using TRWP Manager or Flashify.
3) Download latest nightly ROM from http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/m7spr/.
4) Download gapps. Biker57 suggests gapps from http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/ as it's supposed to cause fewer force closes. I believe 60arm-DHO-GAPPs.zip is the correct file name.
5) Download SuperSU. Biker57 likes SuperSU v2.64 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125.
6) Copy all 3 downloads (in .zip format) to the phone (internal storage, like the TWRP folder)
7) Enter bootloader (volume down and power button), then select bootloader.
8) Backup the current ROM, just in case things go bad like they did for me.
9) From TWRP, enter advanced wipe and select system, data, cache, and dalvik cache. Do not select internal storage as you will lose your current backup and other zips if you do (there is an exception to this, as I did it, but I nearly bricked my phone). Now slide to wipe.
10) Go to install, and first select the ROM's zip. Then choose add more zips and select the gapps zip you downloaded. Next select SuperSU. Now slide to install.
11) Be patient during install.
12) Wipe dalvik cache.
13) Reboot to system (aka phone).
14) Enable Developer Options (if you want), by going to Settings->About and hitting Build Number many times until it's enabled.
Known issues and workarounds:
-Camera app force closes after taking a picture - the picture saves, so just reload Camera app. I've also had good luck using Z Camera then viewing the preview before hitting back to reenter the camera app.
-Stock dialer FCs randomly - Install another dialer app, like True Phone.
-Facebook and Facebook Messenger force closes - use mobile website, which actually isn't too bad, or try the instructions listed here.
-Flashlight turns off after 3 seconds - use the cameras flash instead.
Known issues with no good workarounds:
-FM Radio doesn't work.
-Bluetooth audio doesn't work for phone calls most of the time.
-Switching the battery mode causes the brightness to change randomly - don't ever switch away from balanced mode
Other stuff
-You can find more about the updates made to Vanir ROM here.
-It's risky to play around with the radio, but if you want to try it they are listed here.
-Intersted in supporting Varin, you can donate here.
Please let me know if I missed anything. And feel free to copy freely if it helps others.
***disclaimer - follow at your own risk. I'm not responsible for what might happen to your phone. This is only a cheat sheet, and it's for reference purposes only.***
First off, good tutorial. :good:
Vanir is a great ROM but this Sprint ROM still has a lot of bugs in it. I've used the first Vanir Marshmallow ROM to the most recent and a plethora of bugs have been squashed. But this ROM is still not DD ready, the camera , torch, gapps, browser and settings are broken. I am not saying this ROM is bad, just that its not fully ready yet. Depending on the dev, this rom should be DD ready in 2-3 weeks, they've been releasing more often now. Thank the developer if you know him but if you're the developer, thank you.
We should try to get the dev to see if they can put up a Vanir thread with change logs and the whole shebang.
I'm glad this thread was started and the OP was done well. I've been using this ROM for a while and thought I'd pass along my thoughts and what works for me.
This rom has become my daily driver after learning how to fix a couple of issues. After the latest update of 2/18 the biggest issues of not having a cellular/data connection has been corrected. The only issues that remain for me at least are the camera and Facebook issues. Although the camera does force close it does so for me at least after the picture is taken and saved so it's all good for me. The Facebook issues are corrected by deleting a file in both the Facebook and Messenger file.
The following method works for me without boot loops or any other issues and hopefully will work for you too. I flash these all at the same time loaded in the order listed and don't forget to make a backup before you start just in case.
1 - Flash the 2/18 nightly just like you would any rom http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistak...ghtlies/m7spr/
2 - flash the gapps found here http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/ and select the 60arm file near the bottom.
3 - flash Super SU 2.64 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125 There are new versions, but the 2.64 has continued to work for me.
4 - Reboot
As I said earlier this works for me and I've used this method with their roms successfully a number of times. Good Luck !!
Thank the developer if you know him but if you're the developer, thank you.
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I'm not the developer, and I don't know the developer. But I would thank him or her if I could. I'm just interested in running Marshmallow on the M7. I will update the original post as I learn more so I can hopefully help others.
anotherfakeusername said:
I'm not the developer, and I don't know the developer. But I would thank him or her if I could. I'm just interested in running Marshmallow on the M7. I will update the original post as I learn more so I can hopefully help others.
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If you need help with thread stuff I can help, we should start a new thread completely and give it more of a ROM thread look with known bugs, work a rounds and honest opinions on it.
biker57 said:
3 - flash Super SU 2.64 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
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Since my device is already rooted, would I be best off to install Super SU from the Play Store, then allow the app to upgrade through TWRP?
anotherfakeusername said:
Since my device is already rooted, would I be best off to install Super SU from the Play Store, then allow the app to upgrade through TWRP?
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I'm not the developer either... Just a happy ROM user
There have been some issues with certain SU not working correctly with 6.0. You can try that but I would advise you to try a proven SU version.
is Snapchat also broken
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
SuperSU 2.65 through TWRP 3.0.0-0
anotherfakeusername said:
Since my device is already rooted, would I be best off to install Super SU from the Play Store, then allow the app to upgrade through TWRP?
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I didn't install it from the Play Store, I just flashed this version (2.65) through TWRP 3.0.0-0 and it's working as expected :good:
Hello,
Flashing SuperSU through recovery is a better way, atleast for Marshmallow ROMs now. I'm using latest beta version (SuperSU v2.67) without any issues. It can be found in official SuperSU thread here.
As of camera issues, you can use 3rd party camera apps like Camera FV-5, ProShot or etc. Of course they cost few bucks but worth it. Issue doesn't solve totally in this ROM but app doesn't force close, instead freezes for few sec and then works again.
This ROM is my DD and faced no major issues so far. What I'm mostly missing is fast charge feature in kernel otherwise normally it takes plenty of hours to fully charge.
Kindly note; you have to flash gapps provided by the ROM developer. Other gapps like open gapps will endup with FC.
Thanks...
Best Regards
CRACING said:
Kindly note; you have to flash gapps provided by the ROM developer. Other gapps like open gapps will endup with FC.
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I flashed the gapps provided by the ROM developer, but the Gmail app is force closing due to "unknown issue with Google Play services.".
Then I tried using USB OTG to read my sd card reader in TWRP, but TWRP won't mount it. The issue started right after I booted the ROM the first time; I know because I installed the ROM from my sd card using USB OTG.
I still want this to be my daily driver, because the software is so much faster that 4.3, but I'm not convinced yet.
anotherfakeusername said:
I flashed the gapps provided by the ROM developer, but the Gmail app is force closing due to "unknown issue with Google Play services.".
Then I tried using USB OTG to read my sd card reader in TWRP, but TWRP won't mount it. The issue started right after I booted the ROM the first time; I know because I installed the ROM from my sd card using USB OTG.
I still want this to be my daily driver, because the software is so much faster that 4.3, but I'm not convinced yet.
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Their list of gapps is rather long......which one did you use and did you flash it with the rom
You guys are right. I had to flash Super SU through TWRP (which was a challenge at first without using the sc card and OTG cable).
anotherfakeusername said:
You guys are right. I had to flash Super SU through TWRP (which was a challenge at first without using the sc card and OTG cable).
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Correct, they have to be flashed with the rom as I mentioned in post 3.
anotherfakeusername said:
I flashed the gapps provided by the ROM developer, but the Gmail app is force closing due to "unknown issue with Google Play services.".
Then I tried using USB OTG to read my sd card reader in TWRP, but TWRP won't mount it. The issue started right after I booted the ROM the first time; I know because I installed the ROM from my sd card using USB OTG.
I still want this to be my daily driver, because the software is so much faster that 4.3, but I'm not convinced yet.
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As of error "Unknown issue with Google Play service", go to Settings -> Apps -> Google Play service -> click 3 dot button in the corner -> Uninstall updates. This should solve the problem.
As of OTG, I didn't tested it but usb connection from TWRP to pc for file transfor works fine.
Btw; You are right, ROM is indeed fast.
biker57 said:
Their list of gapps is rather long......which one did you use and did you flash it with the rom
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Use 60arm-DHO-GAPPs.zip
anotherfakeusername said:
You guys are right. I had to flash Super SU through TWRP (which was a challenge at first without using the sc card and OTG cable).
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Even if you install supersu from playstore, it ask to reboots to recovery to install supersu. But before you accept to reboot, you'll have to enable root access to apps in developer options. Otherwise supersu cannot reboot or go into recovery.
Anyhow, instead of going through all these, I simply flash supersu zip from recovery.
CRACING said:
As of error "Unknown issue with Google Play service", go to Settings -> Apps -> Google Play service -> click 3 dot button in the corner -> Uninstall updates. This should solve the problem.
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Android won't let me uninstall the Google Play service update. I get blocked when trying. It claims the app is an active device administrator, but it's not listed when I click manage device administrator.
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Android won't let me uninstall the Google Play service update. I get blocked when trying. It claims the app is an active device administrator, but it's not listed when I click manage device administrator.
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Deselect Android Device Manager. Later when you uninstall the update, reselect Android Device Manager.
Deselect Android Device Manager. Later when you uninstall the update, reselect Android Device Manager.
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That worked to fix my calendar syncing issues! Thanks!
Is not updating Google Play service going to cause other problems?
anotherfakeusername said:
That worked to fix my calendar syncing issues! Thanks!
Is not updating Google Play service going to cause other problems?
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No such problems noticed here. I use Google calendar but Android calendar also works fine.
May be you should try rebooting or wait for some time and try resync.
CRACING said:
No such problems noticed here. I use Google calendar but Android calendar also works fine.
May be you should try rebooting or wait for some time and try resync.
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The problem isn't using Google calendar, the problem is syncing Google calendar. I tried waiting, rebooting, re-adding my account, and everything else, but that didn't help.
Only downgrading Google Play services worked, and then Google calendar synced right away.
Thanks for the suggestions. Hopefully as they update the ROM it'll get resolved more fully.

HELP! ,2015 fire 7 , root RR custom rom ,google play services not working

i don't know what i did ,this tablet was working fine for 2 years with RR custom rom i used root junky tools to root and install RR custom rom,pico gaps, xposedframework ,and android custom boot animation from 5.0,1 , it was working one second and then all of a sudden the google app , gmail ,and youtube all say
" "app name" relies on google play services which is not supported by your device ,contact manufacturer "
how do i fix this and how did it happen? funny thing is that the play store still works and apps can update but i can't use any google apps
all i did was log into a secondary account and then try and install the google app which was already installed on the primary account , the google app stopped working then it worked and then it stopped again and now none of the google apps will work on either account,how do i fix this?
google play services version is 11.9.75(230-182402865)
i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
gdroid666 said:
i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
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Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
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Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
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ok thanks so what kind of additional problems? nothing serious like bricking right?
i do not know the difference between clean and dirty flash so how would i go about that from TWRP
i don't even remember how to get TWRP , i assume i need to get the tablet into fastboot ,i also forgot how i do that
and i may have uninstalled the clockwork mod driver from my PC not sure if i need those or not
is there a guide you can link me to on how to get the tablet into tethered TWRP and which option i need to select from it , i think i have the files i used for the initial flash somewhere i should be able to find those, the RR rom, gapps ,
super SU
also where would the backup go exactly? to an SD card? would you happen to know how much space i would need , if it goes to internal then how do i get the backup to Sd?
also what about xposed framework would that remain intact after a "dirty flash"
should i also add the xposed framework to the zip at the time of dirty flash if not or would i have to do after?
i can not remember too much about how i set this thing up and this is probably the only time i have ever used TWRP , the other 2 tablets i used FF
also could i just a dirty flash from FF? , guess i should use TWRP since i can note make a backup with FF right?
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
gdroid666 said:
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
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Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
Davey126 said:
Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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so what would the risk be if i were to try and side load the .APK's for the play services to try and fix it that way?
which .apk's would i need and in what order would i need to install them , is it worth a shot to try and manually install them from .apk and see hat happens?
if not and i need to do twrp route then would i install the xposed framework zip at the same time
can i flash the rom , gapps, super su , xposed, and custom boot animation zips or would i need to reboot 1st , which order would be best to line them up in TWRP to flash
also what do i do for dirty flash, ? just not wipe anything like dalvik cache? what do i wipe and not wipe?
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
gdroid666 said:
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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Your non-functioning tablet does NOT have an "unlocked bootloader". It has a coding oversight that allows a custom recovery (TWRP) to be booted from fastboot. In all other respects it is identical to the other two from a capability/signature perspective.
The policy change/enforcement you reference is not the cause as Google only starting blocking access a couple weeks ago. Nor will it likely impact this device based on my interpretation of the criteria Google applies.
What to do next? Reload as previously outlined. I also recommend (rather strongly) that you consider migrating to a supported ROM. At present that's either Fire Nexus or Lineage.
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
gdroid666 said:
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a lot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory roms including samsung phones on N and lenovo tablets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sued for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
i can;t beleive there is no solution that is as simple as installing some .apk's
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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a slot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory rom including samsung phone on N and lenovo tabets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sues for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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- I would go with Fire Nexus + Xposed and a few select modules for maximum flexibility if seeking to mimic the RR UX
- head here for the latest developments on HD 10 platform
- nothing wrong with curated FireOS + xposed once rooted. I ran with that config for quite some time with no regrets

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