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Thoughts on 2X and your next phone?

The phones over a year old now. I only picked mine up used almost half a year ago for 200 USD. The phone's price really plummeted in just over half a year didn't it? Even now it hasn't dropped further as it hit its rock bottom way back then. High end phones that are older and with less specs cost the same as this as its really unpopular. An example being the Galaxy S.
So in a way its a pretty unsuccessful phone. Reasons? Software support has been terrible, suffering from radio issues. The stock firmware was appalling for a long time. Then the announcement ICS wasn't coming which soon after you saw the price hitting rock bottom. Leading to LG to counter its previous comment and proceed with ICS. Which it probably had no plans to before the backlash. Since the update was due rather late and has since been delayed a quarter.
Hardware wise its not bad. But still outdone by S2's larger screen, double ram and better camera.
All said i'm extremely happy with my first Android especially considering what I paid. But only with the developer support providing the best solutions. If I were a stock user i'd be sorely disappointed, only feeling better for the price.
In terms of my next phone, I want a larger screen 4.7ish but not pocket busting like the note. A better camera but equal to 2X is fine. More RAM because Opera Mobile keeps shutting down when I multitask out for a second, even with an extra 48mb ram hack. Amoled would be nice but not necessary, mainly for its benefits if its sunlight legibility is good. HD is unnecessary in my opinion.
As it stands I probably won't be upgrading for awhile until the likes of the S3 gets cheap. Except its design looks unprofessional. Optimus 4X anyone? :-D They couldn't make the same mistakes again right? Right?
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I will only be upgrading to nexus devices from now on, because of this phone has made me realise I hate manufacturer skins and that I want the latest updates all the time.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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slebit said:
I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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temasek said:
In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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I know. But I think it's pretty cool.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.

V.Dragos said:
i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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You can just remove that plastic cover by pressing it out from the inside
It is glued woth potatoes I think
But my camera quality looks way better now
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I like sony hayabusa, but who knows what will be in a year or so.
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Definitely a Nexus. Best update and mods

Going for a Galaxy S3 in a weeks time.
Would you guys do the same? I had this phone for over a year now

Hayabusa 12mp sounds like potential. If nexus grew a good camera, it'd be killer. The rumour of five nexuses this year is promising
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some people arent that rich to change expensive phones every 12 months.
My next device will be WITH a good battery, a SD card slot (dumb htc with their one series..almost made them perfect), a good camera (likes of SGS3 or more likely htc one x), and an ARM cortex-a15 based cpu (or krait). and quite importantly, a wolfson micro sound chip (also supported by supercurio ) i dont want screens as large as 4,7 inches though
oh, and i hope it will be a nexus...i want good updates... fuuuu LG
this would be a freaking dream phone. but i aint buying anything until the 2x gives up on me, i still really like it

So far i had 2 android phones with the optimus being my second one. I have noticed that all those "specs" do not matter. What matters is a good software. Therefore i would move to a nexus devices when my optimus gets completely destroyed or really useless. No need to keep throwing money on phones if they cannot completely replace my laptop.

I will go for a SGS2 or 3 or a Nexus.
Hopefully soon. Tired of all the probs with my LGOS

currently, my o2x running temasek kang, it give me what i want to do
still waiting for the stable cm9, then will use it about a year
my next phone maybe the galaxy s4

I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.

Sheppie said:
I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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Nexus seems like the popular choice among us. I think specs matter still otherwise you wouldn't be after a high end phone. I personally have grown accustomed to CM's flexibility and features so i'm not really after software support. Except as we know in our 2X case it lacks drivers for us to update to.
Of course a stable good software release is important, afterall custom ROM users are a minor aspect in comparison to sales. But in the S3's case Samsung are trying to differentiate and add value through the software extras. That's great for most but if your not using it you're paying for nothing.
At least the idea behind the S2 was hardware and just the right software to make it run. This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
What do 2X users here think of the iPhone anyway? I think it's like our polar opposite in the high end. The super expensive overrated and over hyped hardware with good closed software popular phone compared to the piss cheap higher spec phone with miserable software and success.
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Infy_AsiX said:
This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
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Well, they sure as hell have a long way to go as far as design goes. Pretty much all android phones do. They are butt ugly. The Optimus 2x is actually one of the prettier ones imo! The Galaxy S2 for instance is a design disaster.
I'm not a fan of the iOS, though. When I use it, on my Ipod Touch, I get the feeling that I am being treated like an idiot.

I will have a close look at the ASUS Padfone.
If it only had a 720p screen, I would have bought it.
When the Rumors about 5 new Nexus devices for Jelly Bean come true I hope ASUS makes one of the phones. I love their build quality and design. They also are the fastest when it comes to updates and patches.
I also think that the Optimus 2X is among the prettiest phones. This was the reason I picked it instead of the Galaxy SII (the price was similar at launch).
With CM7.2 UNOFFICIAL (I also use temaseks build) the phone is very good and I get a good battery life lately since I turn my phone off and back on right aufter I unplug it from the charger in the mornings. The only thing I don't like is the Battery life when I use it a lot for webbrowsing and games.
My next Phone will have a 720p display, a bigger battery and more RAM.
SD Card slot, swappable battery are things I would very much miss if they were not available on my next phone. Optimus 4X maybe, Huawei D Quad maybe, Jelly Bean Nexus possibly or the Padfone?

I´m tired of the 2x....
...because of the politics from LG.
The stects of that phone were really good, but as it was said before: Good software ist more worth than good hardware.
I think my next Phone will be the next SGS or a Nexus.
What i need:
SD-Card
huge RAM
720p Display
LTE
NFC
good Cam

4x hd....g2x all over again?

Guys I am seriously considering this phone, but I am seeing some similarities (of the bad kind) between this and the g2x.
Now Im not talking meltdown, but this is an lg phone and from tha same optimus family.
I was with the g2x from day one and am fully versed on the bs lg pulled with us on that phone.
Are there any current owners who had the g2x and are starting to see trends for this?
Also is any one using this on at&t?
Would really like some honest opinions comparing the two( i dont mean spec wise because yeah hd screen quad core etc of course its hardware wise better)
IM picking up an lg hd nitro as a backup phone ( yes its true im a phone junkie and my habbit seems to be getting worse...) because I switch phones...a lot..and tired of going with out a phone for a week or so.
Any ways, I did try to search for similar threads but came up with nothing.
Lg claimed this screen was the shizzle of all phones....opinions? (yes I know there is a phone screen thread but may as well include this who knows maybe someone else was wondering the same)
How has lg been with this phone support wise, releasing drivers(i know I know stupid question and right now youre asking if im trolling you), I see there are some issues with root.
ANyways thanks guys.

No issues with root, we have root already.
Now we are working on cracking/bypassing the bootloader lock so we can flash ROMs.
LG Optimus 4X was the first phone as far as I know to be shown with CM10 running. We also have one of the Virtuous Devs with one of these now who will be helping with CM10, so I'm really excited about the ROMs this phone will see.
In terms of support we have already had 2 or 3 three updates since launch, but tbh, I'm not too worried as once we get the bootloader/recovery sorted I'll be loading CM10 onto my phone, which already seems to be better supported than my Sensation ever was with them.

I own a g2x, I know all its ills. But still decided for o4x. I don't regret. It looks good. Hardware matches feature to feature with s3 and ones with better pricing at least a couple of hundred dollars less. LG hardware is more robust than HTC and Samsung as per my experience.Also not to forget O2x/g2x got very strong developers. They are already warming up for o4x.
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I have had LG OP2x which had many problems.
I had exactly same worries as you have now when I thought about buying this phone.
But this phone runs flawlessly and I haven't noticed any of the problems that was on the 2x.
The 2x started to lag and freeze about 60 hours of uptime, while this phone have reached 200 hours of uptime without any complains.
The only thing I wish was better in this phone is the camera and in my opinion the picture quality from the 2x's camera was better.
It is a great phone
Best regards
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I had 2 o2x phones, the first one with all the bugs, like random reboots and BSODs, the second one was great.
This phone is amazing compared to o2x.. They've all ready rls 2-3 updates and works great.
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My only concern on similarity between O2X and O4X is they both use Tegra.
Powerful chip, but it seems difficult to develop, lack of support from maker and handset vendor itself.
I hope it will be much easier now for Tegra3.
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optimuswhite said:
My only concern on similarity between O2X and O4X is they both use Tegra.
Powerful chip, but it seems difficult to develop, lack of support from maker and handset vendor itself.
I hope it will be much easier now for Tegra3.
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The nexus 7 uses Tegra 3, so don't think we got any worries.
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I've had no problems using it on at&t. I usually bounce phones around quite a bit
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Ok so here is my longish answer to your question
1. I always loved Android but the early phones like the Galaxy S and the Mytouch were laggy and buggy.
2. When the G2x came out it was a step forward. But it was buggy as hell. It was superb when it worked but it didn't work that often. The Weapon ROM fixed things but it still had issues.
3. The Galaxy SII was the first stable, reliable Android that I remember.
4. The Galaxy Nexus was the first phone that could rival the smoothness of the Iphone. Finally, Android did it. There could be no more criticism of Android being slow and buggy or laggy. Jelly Bean made it even better.
5. Then the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X upped the ante even more. These phones are the top two phones in the world.
6. So, I got a LG 4x HD the other day because I got a good deal. So because of everything I typed above I was a little worried that LG would make another buggy phone. Well there is nothing to worry about. This phone is smooth. Very smooth. It rivals the Galaxy S3 and the One X in every way. It is not laggy, it hasn't slowed up or rebooted on me once and I have been using nonstop for four days.
But it is now also my favorite phone ever. I just like the way it looks better than Galaxy S3, Xperia S and the HTC One X. I like the physical buttons at the bottom too and the full size sim card slot, removable battery and Micro SD card slot. I have used all the top phones and this is just as good, ask me what is better between the LG 4X HD and the Galaxy S3 and I would say you are splitting hairs, they are pretty equal. Maybe the Galaxy S3 is a little more polished but the difference is negligable. The screens are close but I choose the 4x's screen by a tad. It really is a beautiful screen. I can't think of a single complaint I have about the LG 4x HD. It is a pleasure to use and I can't stop playing with it.
I can't wait til T-Mobile does their refarming in the US so I can use it on 3g/4g too. Wifi is fine for now though.
My score for the LG 4X is a 10 out of 10. It isn't hyperbole either. I put the Apex Launcher on it, switched things to my liking and now I am in love with this phone.

BnkHeist said:
Ok so here is my longish answer to your question
1. I always loved Android but the early phones like the Galaxy S and the Mytouch were laggy and buggy.
2. When the G2x came out it was a step forward. But it was buggy as hell. It was superb when it worked but it didn't work that often. The Weapon ROM fixed things but it still had issues.
3. The Galaxy SII was the first stable, reliable Android that I remember.
4. The Galaxy Nexus was the first phone that could rival the smoothness of the Iphone. Finally, Android did it. There could be no more criticism of Android being slow and buggy or laggy. Jelly Bean made it even better.
5. Then the Galaxy S3 and HTC One X upped the ante even more. These phones are the top two phones in the world.
6. So, I got a LG 4x HD the other day because I got a good deal. So because of everything I typed above I was a little worried that LG would make another buggy phone. Well there is nothing to worry about. This phone is smooth. Very smooth. It rivals the Galaxy S3 and the One X in every way. It is not laggy, it hasn't slowed up or rebooted on me once and I have been using nonstop for four days.
But it is now also my favorite phone ever. I just like the way it looks better than Galaxy S3, Xperia S and the HTC One X. I like the physical buttons at the bottom too and the full size sim card slot, removable battery and Micro SD card slot. I have used all the top phones and this is just as good, ask me what is better between the LG 4X HD and the Galaxy S3 and I would say you are splitting hairs, they are pretty equal. Maybe the Galaxy S3 is a little more polished but the difference is negligable. The screens are close but I choose the 4x's screen by a tad. It really is a beautiful screen. I can't think of a single complaint I have about the LG 4x HD. It is a pleasure to use and I can't stop playing with it.
I can't wait til T-Mobile does their refarming in the US so I can use it on 3g/4g too. Wifi is fine for now though.
My score for the LG 4X is a 10 out of 10. It isn't hyperbole either. I put the Apex Launcher on it, switched things to my liking and now I am in love with this phone.
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I owned an O2x before this. I guess ain't those kind that would notice any small bugs but the O2x was kinda buggy without custom Rom. After buying the 4x, I thought I would regret but I didn't.. it was much better than I have ever expected of an LG phone/hardware/software. Now I really looked forward to an unlocked bootloader and more development. Not forgetting upgrades from LG.
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How future proof is the Nexus 7

Looking for a fully featured 7 tablet, that I will be using for web browsing, gaming (intense ones ) and studying.
Planning on using this device for a couple of years before replacing I am assuming 3 to 4 years?
Our family currently has the Tab 2 7.0 and I reckon it's a bit sluggish, is the Nexus 7 exceptionally smooth?
Should I get it?

It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).

In terms of processing-power it's right up there with the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy SIII, so you're not looking at problems playing games in the near future.
Also, you got an active development community for the device, so even if Google decides to not support the tablet with new versions of Android, you can still keep up to date with what the devs are pumping out.
I've been using mine almost all the time when i'm not sitting in front of my rig, and it has never let me down.

I might say it is likely to be future proof for at least 2 years. It has the hardware, and Google is known to support their nexus line for quite a while. My guess is that it will be in the front line of the upcoming key lime pie update tier.

It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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I know that the new chips introduced at CES 2013 are a few times more powerfull than the Tegra 3. What I ment was that future apps and games will work OK for 2 years. The average life span of a phone and table is 2 years, if it's a flagship device at the time you make the purchase. And the thing is if you fear buying a new device just because it's not future proof, you'll end up never buying anything. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money for what you're getting with this tablet.

Re: How future proof is the Nexus 70
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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The N7 is faster than a Tab, its processors clock at 1.3 GHz and in terms of build quality i'd say they are on equal levels.
I know there are a few stories out there about screen lift on early batches of the N7, but since I can only speak from personal experience, I can say that the build quality of mine is exceptional.

OptimusLove said:
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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You probably shouldn't try to provide an answer when you don't know what you're talking about. The nexus 7 is a 1.2ghz quad core processor, tab 2 is 1ghz dual core, not the same. As for apps Samsung forces on users, there's always plenty of alternatives on the play store.
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CrazyPeter said:
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
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I hope so. I just bought one off of Ebay and I'm waiting on delivery. I'm a little skeptical of the performance of the N7. I have a SG3 that has higher Quadrant scores, so I hope it has enough processing power to go beyond KLP.

If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.

2 years for a 250$ device seems like more than enough to say that it paid for itself. Most probably the games development will skyrocket, better specs will be required, better screens, more storage space. So, as I said, for me 2 years is a good estimate.

jadephyre said:
If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
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Greed, that's is what i bought one.
I bought my wife a TF300 several months ago, it is on par with the N7's performance but the N7 cost almost half the price.

IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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Um. What? It's a quad core 1.3ghz. The companion core is is 500Mhz.

let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.

IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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maybe not..
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3016117/asus-maakt-tweede-nexus-7-tablet.html
or in english: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130128PD222.html
it depends on when google wil release the next nexus 7.

OptimusLove said:
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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Wrong on so many levels. Is this why you wanted to hang out in here even though you don't have a N7?
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let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.

Miami_Son said:
This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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i never mention the Galaxy Tab 2 in my post.

It's a Nexus device, so it will be supported going forward for quite a while, and since it is easy to unlock, the developer community will support it for quite a while.
It probably won't be the best gaming device in 2 years, since that pushes hardware well beyond most other tasks, but if it starts to get a bit slower, you can always push the clocks. It seems most of the N7s will push the cores to 1.4 or 1.5 without any issues, and 1.6 is doable for burst before hitting thermal limits, with some chips able to run even faster. The GPU pushes quite well too.
I'd fully suggest one as a reasonably future-proof device. Plus, they'll likely still resell for $50-$100 in 2 years, which means you're paying $50-$75/yr for a Nexus device. That's pretty good.

S3 LTE vs nexus 4?

Hi all
I'm debating on buying either of these two phones
I play a lot of hd games so is the s3 LTE's gpu good enough (compared to nexus 4)?
The only reason i don't want to buy a nexus 4 is because of the paltry storage.......
In terms of performance does the s3 LTE match the nexus 4?
The S3 LTE is approx. 40$ more than nexus 4 where i am going to buy it and will the S3 LTE get android 5? (or even further)?
I would appreciate a quick reply as i have to buy either by tomrrow....

also
i dont mind lack of lte in nexus 4 my main worry is storage on nexus 4 and performance on s3 lte

tiru.adi13 said:
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i dont mind lack of lte in nexus 4 my main worry is storage on nexus 4 and performance on s3 lte
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Nexus 4. Get a big one and storage shouldn't be an issue, else you're using it wrong. I base this recommendation on your posting this on XDA, I assume you were at some point going to flash a non-standard ROM on your S3 LTE, yes? You will never get a completely stable AOSP-based ROM on an S3 LTE, this means ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, CyanogenMod. They will run, but they might drain the battery more than usual and certain features will probably never work on them due to lack of source code from Samsung. Same goes for the Exynos-based S4.
Get a Nexus 4, Sony Xperia Z or HTC One... Or buy my S3 LTE for a good price?

Lol sorry man can't buy yours but i do plan to have 3-4 hd games and considering this takes up around 8-9 gb the remaining 2-3 gb on nexus 4 isn't sufficient......
Have you tried any hd games on ur s3 lte? How do they perform? And yes like you corectly concurred i will be running cyanogenmod if i buy an s3......
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Nexus 4 support only 3g network, of cause you should not by nexus 4.
4G network is the trend, you should buy galaxy s iii lte
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I had the same dilemma and my choice was i9305. Development is slow and painful but other than that it's great phone. 2GB of RAM and LTE on board makes it more future proof than N4. Expandable memory is a MUST so N4 looses again.
I've played few new HD games on it and there's no lag or anything, smooth and crisp graphics. Brightness half way up and you can play up to 4hrs non-stop!
Removable battery is a good thing if you want to play games on it.....
Price is going down as well, here in UK, you can get new one from eBay for less than £300 so it cost the same as N4.
It's really up to you but I'll suggest S3 LTE.

If I hadnt been given a 4G S3 as a replacement by insurance when my orig S3 broke I would have gotten a Nexus 4, Not a fan of samsung anymore they are far to closed to development on there hardware. My friends with the Nexus 4 dont mind the lack of LTE as its plenty fast enough and with so much Wifi I guess it depends on how important LTE is to you

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Lol sorry man can't buy yours but i do plan to have 3-4 hd games and considering this takes up around 8-9 gb the remaining 2-3 gb on nexus 4 isn't sufficient......
Have you tried any hd games on ur s3 lte? How do they perform? And yes like you corectly concurred i will be running cyanogenmod if i buy an s3......
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I agree with the others, the S3 LTE is a good phone. But it is a terrible choice if you plan on running CyanogenMod.

Rekoil and co - how is it a 'terrible' choice.. Come on dram queens.. CM10.1 is working a treat on my I9305 don't kno wwhat your on about.. Stbale, feature rich (sure a few things not present) and development is nightly just like the rest of the game.. So I ask again.. Sure the kernal tweaks/modding is where we're lacking but with the right tools you can can very good battery life and performance is blistering..
All in all only negative is the scope of development presently - this isn't to say things won't change with respect to kernal.. In short nothing critical is missing and development is churning along nicely.. A few features i'm sure you'll miss if your looking but makes up for in performance/multi tasking imo .
Lack of ROM choices is another issue sure - but if your talking CM then not really as they're all pretty much on par..
So Kernal once again.. This is the big miss with the phone.. Anyway just eager for kernal releases if possible.. Otherwise i'll still be content until the next big thing comes my way and th ephone still rocks hard core

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If I hadnt been given a 4G S3 as a replacement by insurance when my orig S3 broke I would have gotten a Nexus 4, Not a fan of samsung anymore they are far to closed to development on there hardware. My friends with the Nexus 4 dont mind the lack of LTE as its plenty fast enough and with so much Wifi I guess it depends on how important LTE is to you
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hm, imagine when all your friends are watching youtube hd video using lte network, getting a 40 to 100 mb per sec download speed without lag and wait time for start and you are still using around 10mb download speed. waiting the video to load up , hahaha
I think at that time your would regret buying a 3g phone at the beginning.
and the truth is at some point of time in near future ( actually it is happening now in Hong Kong), the mothly charge for a 3G plan is equal to a monthly charge of 4G plan. Would you think you are stupid when you are paying a 4G plan while using only 3G network simply because you are using a damn phone that can only support 3G network?
And for the wifi, come on, be realistic, in a coffee shop , 30 people sitting there sharing the network, how fast can you get from that wifi network?

Thanks for all the input guys......sat down and calculated how much storage i would need after all the games and music and excluding videos i will have used around 12.4 GB. Considering the nexus 4 has only 12.9 GB storage available to the user I will mostly be going for the s3 LTE.....
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying but rekoil is cyanogen really that bad on s3? That would be a major put-off......because I can't stand touchwiz.....and right now on my mini almost every custom ROM like AOKP and CM has one problem or the other....
Oh and anguslaw 4G doesn't really matter to me we don't even have it yet here in india :-/

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Rekoil and co - how is it a 'terrible' choice.. Come on dram queens.. CM10.1 is working a treat on my I9305 don't kno wwhat your on about.. Stbale, feature rich (sure a few things not present) and development is nightly just like the rest of the game.. So I ask again.. Sure the kernal tweaks/modding is where we're lacking but with the right tools you can can very good battery life and performance is blistering..
All in all only negative is the scope of development presently - this isn't to say things won't change with respect to kernal.. In short nothing critical is missing and development is churning along nicely.. A few features i'm sure you'll miss if your looking but makes up for in performance/multi tasking imo .
Lack of ROM choices is another issue sure - but if your talking CM then not really as they're all pretty much on par..
So Kernal once again.. This is the big miss with the phone.. Anyway just eager for kernal releases if possible.. Otherwise i'll still be content until the next big thing comes my way and th ephone still rocks hard core
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And what about the graphics glitches in keyboard and other places that will literally never be fixed? TV out will also never be fixed.
I'll be honest, I'm going off what I've seen on my friends non-LTE device (I9300, pretty much the same device apart from the modem), I personally cannot run AOSP-based on my device because if I run anything other than Perseus kernel my baseband doesn't find an IMEI, perhaps this has pronounced my dislike for Samsung (in my opinion, something like the modem configuration shouldn't be so easily breakable/writable). But everything I've said is true, all the good developers want nothing to do with the Exynos4 platform, codeworkx happened to have ported to I9300, making I9305 very easy to support, but he wont even accept a free I9305 at this point, because he is fed up with Samsung.
I will mention this again because I feel it is an important point. I very much like the hardware, it is simple in design and feature rich, this is a phone I would have stayed with for several years... if Samsung had released source code for the platform in a timely manner. At this point I am probably going to sell my I9305 soon and use my old Desire S until I can get ahold of an Xperia Z or something. All the sources for that device were released BEFORE the device even hit the market, now THAT is good support.
And... "development is churning along nicely"? This is literally all that is happening in terms of development for AOSP-based ports. If you know anything about programming you can tell that those commits are not development so much as fixing configuration mistakes and applying code loaned from other devices.
Although this is interesting... apparently the Galaxy S4 in my market will not be using the Exynos Octa, but rather a Snapdragon 600. This might be a pretty good contender in that case! At the moment I'm personally considering HTC One, Xperia Z and Galaxy S4 (but ONLY if it comes with Snapdragon 600).

I would go for a nexus 4. Brilliant processing and graphics rendering and no lack of roms or development for the next 3 years atleast. Also there is something called enjoying one game at a time. In my experience I have never liked playing more than one good game At a time on my phone. Nor would u b wasting your time removing the crap that Samsung puts on it's phones. Just my view, yours may be different
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Thanks
Thanks for the input guys. I'm now decided I'm going to buy nexus 4. I'm also thinking because of lack of additional storage. But i have nexus 7. I can play all the games that I put there. My friend let me hold his note 2 and I was asked to root it and install rooms or kernel. I searched in xda and read threads. I'm a little disappointed because of few custom roms. I'm really looking for aokp rom but it's not stable on note 2 I think this applies to all Samsung phones except for Google edition?
If you're into tweaking and want custom roms, high performance phone go for nexus 4 and leave that additional storage, removable battery, LTE, and touch wiz!

Seems you made your choice. They are both equally good phones, just in different areas. The nexus 4 is faster, nicer and has a superior screen. As for stock android ... well I hate it - it is faster, but I guess it's a matter of preference. One advice - when you pick up your n4 take the phone as you would talk and listen for any noise from the earpiece - they tend to hiss a lot and if it does, ask for another one. Also look for a rev 2.0 N4 - they made some nice small changes in the design, google it.

Even if you will get a Nexus 4 i still think that S3 LTE is the way to go for what you need it, yes Nexus 4 has better development and better GPU, but S3 LTE you get more space, you can get a spare battery, better screen for gaming (the home buttons are a bit of a problem at first at least when playing some games).
So by me i'd say strictly for gaming:
Nexus 4: 1) better GPU (not that better in real games only in benchmarks).
S3 LTE: 1) more space (you will need it the more the game will evolve)
2) spare battery a must for gamers on smartphones (or a big battery)
3) games seem better on Amoled screens (but that's just my opinion, and no problems whit the buttons).
4) better sound if you use headphones
But if you want to mod the phone go for Nexus 4 v2.0.:fingers-crossed:

I would like to know how is the radio/antena quality of Nexus 4. Galaxy Nexus has terrible reception compared to S3. GPS chip is a second class (still talking about GN.) too. I got a feeling that they build Nexus devices to be crap intentionally, so that all software which is able to run on it, flies on other high end devices . Regarding Note 2, I am not sure what the guy is talking about. There are plenty of ROMs and support for it. It is a great peace of hardware IMO, and my favorite one. It always comes up to, what for do you actually need/use a device. I want to be able to work with it. For me that means writing emails, doing some system administration (I use PaderSync for ssh for example.), sometimes working even with Excel sheets, browsing the web, and making pictures of documents and singing them (stopped doing this.) and for all this I need a bigger screen and resolution, always good reception and decent camera. I also like colors of amoled screens .
So you decide depending on what is important for you, and check the value for money ratio, of course.
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But if you are not in a hurry, why not wait a little and consider other phones? Xperia Z has great support, sources are published, it's a nice device, HTC One and S4 will get Nexus like versions. So depending on how do you intend to acquire your device (contract or free/unlocked) maybe you will be able to get one of newer devices?
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N4 has good reception, high class gps and amazingly sharp screen. It's fast as hell , boots in seconds and loads apps instantly. UI is very responsive (butter) Camera is also decent, but not better than sgs3 and the led is weaker.
Only drawbacks are speakerphone, in call quality, lack of space and the terrible vanilla os with the onscreen buttons and ugly and very uncomfortable UI (personal opinion). Oh and that battery... Well it's not intended for gaming , it's a developer phone and ! If I was new to android I'd get the nexus, but the OEM skins actually make for a better usability ( s planner, better phone ui)
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N4 has good reception, high class gps and amazingly sharp screen. It's fast as hell , boots in seconds and loads apps instantly. UI is very responsive (butter) Camera is also decent, but not better than sgs3 and the led is weaker.
Only drawbacks are speakerphone, in call quality, lack of space and the terrible vanilla os with the onscreen buttons and ugly and very uncomfortable UI (personal opinion). Oh and that battery... Well it's not intended for gaming , it's a developer phone and ! If I was new to android I'd get the nexus, but the OEM skins actually make for a better usability ( s planner, better phone ui)
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You like TW ! I don't like S Planer because it forces you to use Samsung Calendar, and doesn't have 2 way sync with Google calendar, what I use for work too.
Speaking about launcher, Nova is my preference. Simple but powerful. Should be the Google stock one.

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People considering to buy this phone please read

People if you are considering to buy a lg optimus 4x hd and came here to read whats bad or good about it please DONT
Yes this is because most people coming here are to complain ( speaking from my experience) so you will get demotivated a lot even though this phone is great ( once again in my opinion)
Even though our camera is not the best nor is out optimus UI despite those small things its a great phone for a very good price
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I agree you cm camera is actually not so bad in good light (low light it sucks as much as the normal). Optimus UI is just a matter of taste I like it. For now it has one of the best performance/price relation I think. Maybe its not the bestto play hardcore games as it gets hotbut with underclocking your cpu and play games its very good.I thinkthe simple mobile games are way better than the FPS. just my opinion
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flash CM 10.1 and your golden. Pretty much a Nexus 4, cept no screen space is wasted for the soft keys.:good:

In Poland u can buy new 4X for 220€, it's cheaper than SGS2!

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In Poland u can buy new 4X for 220€, it's cheaper than SGS2!
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LOL, in at lot of places in UK the S2 actually costs more than the S3!!! Thought this was gonna be another complaining thread but its not! Not sure its necessary though, people can read and make up their own mind
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Have to agree. I've got an HOX but I got my wife the 4x and I must say I am impressed. For its price I do belive it's unbeatable.
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With a proper stable kernel our phones will be truly one of the best phones i beleave
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You finaly can have TV out!

Didnt we already have that with stock
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flash CM 10.1 and your golden. Pretty much a Nexus 4, cept no screen space is wasted for the soft keys.:good:
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Dream on...

Arent Nexi budget phones? In all other places where there is no Google Play, they are expensive and when everybody and their mom suggests getting one, it gets annoying really fast.
Here is the thing with Nexus phones. The only good thing about them is Google updates. Stock android experience and so on are all covered by custom roms.
And as for this thread. If you have money, dont bother with the 4X HD. There are better phones out there with better stock roms and quality I believe.

O4X was my first android phone. And i love it.
But i spent to much time waiting on JB on unlock bootloader on rom, everything... so i sell it =(
I changed for SG3 - and those two can not be compared. On SG3 battery for me stands for full 2 days! on OX4 max 12h. Camera is much much better on SG3 - and those are most important things for me on phone.
O4X is cheap nice hardware... but bad support bad battery ( strange wakelocks) is downsides.
And yes... dust under screen... i hated so much LG about that!
Also using this opportunity to say bye to all O4X lovers and community. Se ya i another thread

My Galaxy S3 Battery Life Sucks Please Help! 15% After Only 7 Hours > from sg3 user, so many trolls on the net, Im happy with my o4x and happy I didnt pay twice as much for a phone just to play a couple of games better, now there is unlocked bootloader wonder why such animosity or is it jealousy !

nomaj said:
O4X was my first android phone. And i love it.
But i spent to much time waiting on JB on unlock bootloader on rom, everything... so i sell it =(
I changed for SG3 - and those two can not be compared. On SG3 battery for me stands for full 2 days! on OX4 max 12h. Camera is much much better on SG3 - and those are most important things for me on phone.
O4X is cheap nice hardware... but bad support bad battery ( strange wakelocks) is downsides.
And yes... dust under screen... i hated so much LG about that!
Also using this opportunity to say bye to all O4X lovers and community. Se ya i another thread
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I never sell my phones. I have a ton of it (including Nokia 1610 from 1996). I've made mistake with Optimus 4X HD, but it's my fault. In the other hand, we don't have Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie or decent phones with powerful chips (Tegra 4, Snapdragon 800), so I will wait for next flagship. My first Android is still working, HTC Hero from 2009 summer.

Winudert said:
I never sell my phones. I have a ton of it (including Nokia 1610 from 1996). I've made mistake with Optimus 4X HD, but it's my fault. In the other hand, we don't have Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie or decent phones with powerful chips (Tegra 4, Snapdragon 800), so I will wait for next flagship. My first Android is still working, HTC Hero from 2009 summer.
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After nvidias fail with tegra 2&3, you would really risk tegra 4? I accidently left my phone locked to single core only yesterday, and was playing a few heavy games. There was barely any difference. The CPU is insanely powerful, but the GPU is a total POS
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After nvidias fail with tegra 2&3, you would really risk tegra 4? I accidently left my phone locked to single core only yesterday, and was playing a few heavy games. There was barely any difference. The CPU is insanely powerful, but the GPU is a total POS
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nVidias fail with Tegra 2 and 3? The support from manufacturers wasn't exactly massive but they were great chips.
I'd say the Optimus 2x had better performance when it was running a custom ROM, I ran Nova HD ROM it was overclockable and ran really well.
I havent taken the plunge with my 4X rooting and custom ROMs yet, I'm waiting for the warranty to run out first!!

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nVidias fail with Tegra 2 and 3? The support from manufacturers wasn't exactly massive but they were great chips.
I'd say the Optimus 2x had better performance when it was running a custom ROM, I ran Nova HD ROM it was overclockable and ran really well.
I havent taken the plunge with my 4X rooting and custom ROMs yet, I'm waiting for the warranty to run out first!!
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Well in terms of general use and multitasking the quad core is incredible, but considering I just bought a cheap dual core powervr 531 tablet and it runs some games better there's deffo something wrong. I do believe however that game devs are partly to blame, but its enough to make me steer clear
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Hey guys... Just wondering how is the call quality with your phone?... Do you get drop outs?... Is the signal reception good and consistent? Thanks
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I don't make many calls with my phone, but so far the call quality has been fine.

Seriously, I gotta hand it to people who buy quad core phones for games because phones are the worst possible medium where you would want to play a game. If you wanna play games, go get a tablet or a desktop PC with reasonable cooling. A decent PC that can run EVERY phone game costs around 450 euro. Thats cheaper than a Note2 and litterally every 2013 high priced phone.
The reason why this phone cant play games as "Smooth" as you people would want is because of throttling and bad optimization. The heat that is generated while playing a game is ridiculous and the CPU+GPU overheat because there is no cooling happeing there.
The only, and I mean, the only reason why the S3 runs cooler is because of better throttling, not because it has "Efficient" internals.
There are many devices out there that do the "Gamiing" part better but you would be paying 80- 100 Euros more for just getting a "Better" phone for gaming.
When somebody comes around says "Oh, the S3 is so much better"and LG has dust underscreen. May I remind you that the S3 up until January this year had a brickbug +restarting bug and the restarting bug has NOT been fixed. The brickbug was a internal memory error.The restarting bug seems to happen at random with people with the "Insane" chip. I was in a dilemma when I bought this phone. Do I wanna risk buying an S3 and after 6 months it could become useless? I said no.
If you are happy to invest +350 to +400 euro for a phone just because you find the beauty problems of this phone bad then for "Insert your favorite vendor"s sake do so.
I am happy to have a functional phone that when compared with the price of other phones, just blows them out of the water. Phones like the
S2, Sony Xperia S,T,SP, Optimus G, Nexus 4(It costs around 400 euro where I live, compared to 280 euro with this phone.) and so on and so forth.
Hey, I challenge anybody to offer an alternative to this phone with a price range of :
300-350 euro
4.7 Coll HD or FULL HD IPS screen
Removable battery
MicroSD slot
16GB internal storage
The only alternative is the Huawei G615 but that thing is 4.5 coll, has only 8 GB internal storage and does not seem to have CM support.