Hi
Like me, many of us are waiting for the pre order to come on 28th or soon after. Would love to root as soon as it is unboxed.
Is there any work around for rooting this device?
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Guys in Development section already got kernel sources - so it might come faster than we think - but surely not as soon as it is unboxed. You'll probaly have to wait at least few days.
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Guys in Development section already got kernel sources - so it might come faster than we think - but surely not as soon as it is unboxed. You'll probaly have to wait at least few days.
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Yeah I have noticed the release of kernel by Sony.
Happy to wait for rooting to come.
Thanks.
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Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
Riyal said:
Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
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So since this phone is due for release is it a known fact that the bootloader is unlocked & also what would be achieved or the benefits of relocking the bootloader. Can't imagine why to relock coz despite best efforts by top developers over a year, my current phone's bootloader is totally hack proof (not impossible but improbable)
RAD7 said:
So since this phone is due for release is it a known fact that the bootloader is unlocked & also what would be achieved or the benefits of relocking the bootloader. Can't imagine why to relock coz despite best efforts by top developers over a year, my current phone's bootloader is totally hack proof (not impossible but improbable)
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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Oh ok, worst case people could just use the old microwave trick for getting replacement under warranty!
Sorry no idea whats the connection of microwave and warranty
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Sorry no idea whats the connection of microwave and warranty
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There was a "trick" where people fried their radios ( wifi, BT etc ) with a microwave to claim warranty - since those are on mb itself, service usually replaces the whole board. In theory there is no way to tell that your radios were damaged on purpose by a microwave - this way some tried to claim warranty saying their radios "just stopped working". Some claim it worked, others it didn't - i myself believe it to be utter gar.... if you put your phone into microwave, you're gonna have a bad time
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There was a "trick" where people fried their radios ( wifi, BT etc ) with a microwave to claim warranty - since those are on mb itself, service usually replaces the whole board. In theory there is no way to tell that your radios were damaged on purpose by a microwave - this way some tried to claim warranty saying their radios "just stopped working". Some claim it worked, others it didn't - i myself believe it to be utter gar.... if you put your phone into microwave, you're gonna have a bad time
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Hmm I think that ain't gonna work since if you ever fried a radio sony can still check if whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked. Better fry the whole device instead :laugh:
Well I just mentioned what I read & yeah I think it's for less than 10 secs @ lowest wattage But hmm yeah I didn't know that it is yet possible to check if BL was unlocked.
PS : Dont try this as home :laugh:
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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I can already provide a relock package that probably works
Only problem is that Flashtool doesn't support the new XZ yet so I won't provide it until the new Flashtool is relaesed
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krabappel2548 said:
I can already provide a relock package that probably works
Only problem is that Flashtool doesn't support the new XZ yet so I won't provide it until the new Flashtool is relaesed
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Hmm do you mean sony have new header files which made the ftfs unreadable again by flashtool?
Wow your fast didn't get the device yet development has already started huh. :good:
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Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
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Rooting on locked bootloader is difficult... One needs to hunt for exploit which can happen in 5 mins or can take months...
Relocking bootloader is easy... Just flash a ftf containing correct TA code...
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DooMLoRD said:
Rooting on locked bootloader is difficult... One needs to hunt for exploit which can happen in 5 mins or can take months...
Relocking bootloader is easy... Just flash a ftf containing correct TA code...
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Uhm yeah correct with that one but I was talking about rooting on unlocked bootloaders
rooting it while it's locked is an exploit or security flaw so yeah it's hard to do.
Regarding relocking bootloader no idea how to do since my last sony device was unlocked using testpoint and there's no way of relocking it yet at that time.
What I'm interested in at this point is anything with the drm keys. I want that to stay even when the device is unlocked. Do you know by chance where is it stored anyways? Is it on one of the partitions inside the phone or is there a seperate chipset where it is isolately stored? Or is it something like a firmware embedded to a chipset?
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Hi everyone !
First of all, I'd like to introduce a little of myself because i'm new here ! My name is David, I'm 22, and i'm from France (Sorry for my English :angel. I just switched from an iPhone 4s to a Sony Xperia T (obvious in this section of the forum, right? ^^)
I'm a total beginner about Android development, but i'm learning more and more everyday !
Here is my problem : The xperia I bought is simlocked to Orange, a french provider (even though I know it exists in other countries), and i'd like to know how I could get rid of this lock so I can use my phone with my unlimited plan from another provider.
Does the lock come from the fact that the it's a Orange Firmware ? Can I bypass it by flashing the firmware and installing another firmware that won't be from Orange?
Do I have to unlock the bootloader ? Root the phone ?
Thanks for your answers and your help ! :good:
It will be simlocked to Orange regardless, you'll have to call Orange or a third party to unlock it for you.
Only Samsung devices and certain HTC have certain ways to unlock the phone freely. I don't know about Sony, as this is my first Sony phone.
I already called them, they told me that it costs 76€.. And a third party would be pretty much the same I guess..
Well I hope there's gonna be another solution, because I can't wait to fully use it ! :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your answer though !
Most t third pairs will do it for around 30 bucks
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well I can't find one that'll do it for 30 bucks, so if you know one !
French law about cellphone states your service provider is to unlock your phone free of charge (considering you ask for it) after the sixth month of your engagement.
It can be done sooner but as you said, it's not free at all, and you'll still have to pay for your monthly plan for the rest of your engagement period.
Nickola
Big **** the phone who orange fr cell is branded and we need to unlock gsm but the big problem is the bootloader who is in statu locked. We can unlock the bootlaoder i going crazy
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sessel said:
Big **** the phone who orange fr cell is branded and we need to unlock gsm but the big problem is the bootloader who is in statu locked. We can unlock the bootlaoder i going crazy
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well if it is in status locked, you can unlock it (if i understand correctly). type *#*#7378423#*#* service info, configuration (or similar, am on cm10 so cannot look) and check if you can unlock it.
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The phone is in status locked when I look in Service Info, but I believe some members here already did unlock their bootloader.
Also I flashed the original Orange branded rom and replaced it with the Generic UK one, which is not branded (I thought by doing this it might disable the simlock, but it didn't..)
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The phone is in status locked when I look in Service Info, but I believe some members here already did unlock their bootloader.
Also I flashed the original Orange branded rom and replaced it with the Generic UK one, which is not branded (I thought by doing this it might disable the simlock, but it didn't..)
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what i mean is not simlock, of course, but it should say in that menu if you can unlock bootloader.
it should say something like: Rooting: Unlock of bootloader: Yes
edit: from sonymobile site:
Instructions
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
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It actually says "No" to unlock the bootloader, that's what I was trying to say previously lol
That's why I said that I believe,even though it says no, that some members managed to unlock it. Or maybe that status is proper to each phone?
Dad0u said:
It actually says "No" to unlock the bootloader, that's what I was trying to say previously lol
That's why I said that I believe,even though it says no, that some members managed to unlock it. Or maybe that status is proper to each phone?
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ah ok lol
i don't know, but i guess it is each operator thing.. i am new to xperias, but i think i read there was some people that could unlock your bootloader even if it said no.
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Lol ,and i'm new to Android ^^ I'm pretty sure I read that too !
Is the bootloader unlocking linked to the simlock ?
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Lol ,and i'm new to Android ^^ I'm pretty sure I read that too !
Is the bootloader unlocking linked to the simlock ?
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no. but seems that some operators prefer not to allow bootloader unlocking and that is ****ty.. verizon did that with sgs3, people got angry and they stopped doing it (or at least said they will).
someone correct me if i am wrong.
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tumult said:
well if it is in status locked, you can unlock it (if i understand correctly). type *#*#7378423#*#* service info, configuration (or similar, am on cm10 so cannot look) and check if you can unlock it.
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For me is No. I'm crazy i never have one divice with this statu.
I want my cm10 too lol
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sessel said:
For me is No. I'm crazy i never have one divice with this statu.
I want my cm10 too lol
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well that is ****ty damn :/.. and i stand corrected by @waynekirby in the other thread, only factory simfree can have bootloaders unlocked..
pfff.. i hope some solution will be found for you guys.
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tumult said:
ah ok lol
i don't know, but i guess it is each operator thing.. i am new to xperias, but i think i read there was some people that could unlock your bootloader even if it said no.
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That's true for the 2011 line and some of the 2012 line. But for Xperia t it is not (yet) possible. And if they unlocked while bootloader unlock allowed stated no they paid for it.
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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to know if any solution has come up about the unsimlock for the Xperia T !
Thanks !
None other than to ask your carrier nicely it for a paid for service. And its unlikely there ever will be one.
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Hello to all and sorry for approximate English!!!
I have bricked my razr I after to have used RSD lite and at the time of restarting that this has never restarted!!!
Now I have a green diode which ignites during a few seconds then 2 rumble and it off.
Thus RSD lite does not re-know it any more, once connected on a PC, I just have the right(law) for the green led lit(switched on) longer!!!!
And sometimes my PC tries to install a driver MEdfield which it never finds!!!
It can it be a solution?
Have you other solution ?
did u downgrade from JB to ICS with rsd lite? Than your Razr i is one giant brick. At the moment there is no solution for that.
And if u didnt do that, i am sorry, i dont know the solution.
Hazou said:
did u downgrade from JB to ICS with rsd lite? Than your Razr i is one giant brick. At the moment there is no solution for that.
And if u didnt do that, i am sorry, i dont know the solution.
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Effectively, I am pass of ICS then JB then ICS then JB with no problem at all, my problem has place during one update with JB under RSD LITE That this made these 11 stages normally then at the time of restarted the such has never restarted!!
At the material level the solution it is what to change the motherboard mother of the such and if yes how many cost?
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Effectively, I am pass of ICS then JB then ICS then JB with no problem at all, my problem has place during one update with JB under RSD LITE That this made these 11 stages normally then at the time of restarted the such has never restarted!!
At the material level the solution it is what to change the motherboard mother of the such and if yes how many cost?
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Don't worry you're not the only one who has made this mistake I did the same thing if you're on a network phone ie T-Mobile orange etc take it back to them play dumb when I did mine I said that it started to do an update and the battery died now it won't turn on they sent the handset for repair and I kept track on their website and they fixed it changed the main board update the software and replaced the casing
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dog121 said:
Don't worry you're not the only one who has made this mistake I did the same thing if you're on a network phone ie T-Mobile orange etc take it back to them play dumb when I did mine I said that it started to do an update and the battery died now it won't turn on they sent the handset for repair and I kept track on their website and they fixed it changed the main board update the software and replaced the casing
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So much the better for you but me I have unlocked the bootloader by way of the site of Motorola thus I am well afraid that that this makes me all pay!!
Bubscanard said:
So much the better for you but me I have unlocked the bootloader by way of the site of Motorola thus I am well afraid that that this makes me all pay!!
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I did the same brick, with unlocked bootloader. Then i sent it to the warranty and said that an cable update failed. After 10 days, they said it was totally dead, then they gave me a totally new Razr i, with the box and everything.
Since the werent able to make it run, they didn't know the bootloader was unlocked.
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I did the same brick, with unlocked bootloader. Then i sent it to the warranty and said that an cable update failed. After 10 days, they said it was totally dead, then they gave me a totally new Razr i, with the box and everything.
Since the werent able to make it run, they didn't know the bootloader was unlocked.
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yes, but for unlocked the bootloader, i use the site of motorola then they are my IMEI and then i know warrantly out !!
And you , you used the Motorola site for unlocked the bootloader ?
Bubscanard said:
yes, but for unlocked the bootloader, i use the site of motorola then they are my IMEI and then i know warrantly out !!
And you , you used the Motorola site for unlocked the bootloader ?
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Yes, i used the Motorola site with all my info. Still got a new one.
tatazeuz said:
Yes, i used the Motorola site with all my info. Still got a new one.
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You know in France , We never make as all the world
But thank you for this good news
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So much the better for you but me I have unlocked the bootloader by way of the site of Motorola thus I am well afraid that that this makes me all pay!!
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Don't worry my phone was unlocked and rooted and they still fixed it because the carrier here in UK fix it themselves most of the time and don't send back to Motorola
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dog121 said:
Don't worry my phone was unlocked and rooted and they still fixed it because the carrier here in UK fix it themselves most of the time and don't send back to Motorola
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All the world in had a new razri further to a brick ?
Hi
i just bought my phone month ago and i really want to root the device and use different roms
i observed that many here did that
does really rooting void the warranty and if is true ? can i do unroot for warranty
also does rooting has a relation to battery life impovement or it is the roms
my battery life is not good
i even bought an extendable 4300 battery from china and still bad it is just "the 4300 one " stood for 23h with light use
thanks in advance
NB : sorry for the bad english
Rooting can void it, but is undetectable if you reinstall the firmware which will remove it. Unlocking the bootloader to install ROM/kernel however cannot be reversed, but is undetectable if you revert to ICS. Rooting itself will do nothing for battery its the changes you make with this access, whether that be a new ROM, kernel, or simpler things like changing clock speeds with tegra overclock or similar
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What does it mean that unlocking bootloader can be undectable after changing ROM to ICS?
Kontal said:
What does it mean that unlocking bootloader can be undectable after changing ROM to ICS?
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Because the ICS ROM was never made for bootloader unlock, so it will be locked in ICS, but if you flash JB again it will already be unlocked
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So, after unlocking bootloader and (in case of some damage) changing ROM to ICS mean I can still use my varranty? Or not?
It depends. LG can still tell if you have unlocked, unless you really think they are that stupid.
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It depends. LG can still tell if you have unlocked, unless you really think they are that stupid.
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Yep, all they would have to do is update it to JB or even just look in sys/firmware/fuse/odm_reserved for changes. If they care they will find out
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I have yet to find out how it would be possible to damage a device while using custom roms or rooting it. Unless someone is really stupid to do something dumb, there is no risk whatsoever.
Once you root it though, I believe its over with the warranty.
shadowcore said:
I have yet to find out how it would be possible to damage a device while using custom roms or rooting it. Unless someone is really stupid to do something dumb, there is no risk whatsoever.
Once you root it though, I believe its over with the warranty.
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It all depends where you are. The company cannot, certainly under UK consumer law, refuse to fix a hardware fault just because you have rooted your phone or unlocked the bootloader. They can, however, if they can show that you have caused the damage by over-clocking the CPU or playing around with the voltage settings.
About bootloader - there is somewhere the app which can change the fuses and relock it
reas0n said:
About bootloader - there is somewhere the app which can change the fuses and relock it
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They could still see the difference. Fuses are written only once, so if the fuse is not the same as the original code well...
If it looks anything like mine:
0x000000000000000000000000000000000000fdffffffcafffffffdfffefeffed
Then there's no hope
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I think they don't even checking that.. :d
Cmon you would have to be very unlucky to have warranty refused when something breaks and you want to have it repaired just use relock unlock method, seriously doubt they will be checking fuses, and even if they have checked would they refuse repair
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Flash it to latest imei firmware and be nerd infront of them i doubt they will check anything else.
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LG Italy has officially stated that it will repair under warranty LG smartphones rooted and with custom ROM installed, no questions asked.
I'm not able to tell what other LG subsidiaries will do in other, different, countries.
Maybe you should ask.
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LG Italy has officially stated that it will repair under warranty LG smartphones rooted and with custom ROM installed, no questions asked.
I'm not able to tell what other LG subsidiaries will do in other, different, countries.
Maybe you should ask.
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Can you please provide a link to this official statement?
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Can you please provide a link to this official statement?
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yes, here it is, from the official LG Italy Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-i...-di-root-attivi-in-garanzia/10150205338062585
as you can see, the news was, at the time, a big hit inside the italian blogosphere:
http://android.hdblog.it/2011/05/31...er-device-root-o-con-rom-modificate-per-dual/
http://www.technozone.it/cellulari/...er-dispositivi-con-root-e-con-rom-modificate/
http://www.yourlifeupdated.net/unca...er-dispositivi-con-root-e-con-rom-modificate/
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/lg/lg-i...che-per-i-device-con-root-o-custom-rom-20981/
http://labs.ebuzzing.it/buzz/lg-189444/2011-05-31-lg-italia-stupisce-garanzia-device-dual
http://blog.tecnospazio.org/lg-optimus-dual-garanzia-con-root-e-rom-modificate-5139
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yes, here it is, from the official LG Italy Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-i...-di-root-attivi-in-garanzia/10150205338062585
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Thanks for that. Interesting that it was over two years ago, and they specifically mention "rooting", no reference to unlocking bootloaders. It may be worth you asking the question of them to find out what their stance is now.
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Thanks for that. Interesting that it was over two years ago, and they specifically mention "rooting", no reference to unlocking bootloaders. It may be worth you asking the question of them to find out what their stance is now.
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rooting and installation of alternate firmware, which you can't get without unlocking bootloader. still, this is old, and i'd really really like to know what their stance is today
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rooting and installation of alternate firmware, which you can't get without unlocking bootloader. still, this is old, and i'd really really like to know what their stance is today
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Untrue. You can install alternate firmware - we had that ability on the 4X without an unlocked bootloader. What you can't do is install a custom kernel.
Unless they specifically state that they will support warranty claims with an unlocked bootloader then this is worthless anyway.
If someone could post please the Prototype Firmware
Meni30 said:
If someone could post please the Prototype Firmware
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/orig-development there you go, fill your boots
danw_oz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/orig-development there you go, fill your boots
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That is not what he means.
I am unsure where he will download it from.
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That is not what he means.
I am unsure where he will download it from.
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Yes, isn't that called leaks, I haven't ever seen any from Sony
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Yes, isn't that called leaks, I haven't ever seen any from Sony
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No,
They are development threads made by xda users and are not based on Sony FW
He is asking for a prototype FW from sony, its an initial release of FW for journalistic and testing purposes. It is never released publicily, but there have been leaks in the past (Notably the first Sony JB release was leaked)
I do believe it only works on what are known as "Brown" Devices. i.e not for public sale
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No,
They are development threads made by xda users and are not based on Sony FW
He is asking for a prototype FW from sony, its an initial release of FW for journalistic and testing purposes. It is never released publicily, but there have been leaks in the past (Notably the first Sony JB release was leaked)
I do believe it only works on what are known as "Brown" Devices. i.e not for public sale
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Yes but they have signature checks on those firmwares to look for the first few characters of the IEMI for the brown devices
danw_oz said:
Yes but they have signature checks on those firmwares to look for the first few characters of the IEMI for the brown devices
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Still, original android development roms are not protytype firmware
They are not even firmware (FTF files) but flashable, rooted and heavily modified .zips and nothing to do with official/unofficial releases from Sony
Why Sony is so damn restricted..
Every company has FW they don't release
You will find Sony is actually the most dev friendly OEM there is. That is why they have been voted XDA OEM of the year for the past 3 (Or maybe 4) years.
They are the only company that actively works with devs on xda
gregbradley said:
Every company has FW they don't release
You will find Sony is actually the most dev friendly OEM there is. That is why they have been voted XDA OEM of the year for the past 3 (Or maybe 4) years.
They are the only company that actively works with devs on xda
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Very Well, so here still hope.
eclyptos said:
Very Well, so here still hope.
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for what?
gregbradley said:
for what?
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To reach what we looking for with Sony and from Sony. A solution to all our problems.
eclyptos said:
To reach what we looking for with Sony and from Sony. A solution for all our problems.
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what problems?
gregbradley said:
what problems?
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With Z1, for example, Unlocking Bootloader, maybe we get new Firmwares. You said XDA actively works with Sony and Vice-Versa, so we still in a middle of nowhere or what? If this is true what you said a solution should be on the way.
eclyptos said:
With Z1, for example, Unlocking Bootloader, maybe we get new Firmwares. You said XDA actively works with Sony and Vice-Versa, so we still in a middle of nowhere or what? If this is true what you said a solution should be on the way.
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True, but that is a user problem, the stock releases have no problem. Its only a problem if you want to "mess" with the phone (Like we all do) then we do so with the caveat that we are messing with a stable system and we may make it unstable in some ways.
That's the fun and the joy in the journey
PS, unlocking the boot does not give you new firmwares. FW are official releases from sony. Custom roms are made by non sony developers and are not official
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True, but that is a user problem, the stock releases have no problem. Its only a problem if you want to "mess" with the phone (Like we all do) then we do so with the caveat that we are messing with a stable system and we may make it unstable in some ways.
That's the fun and the joy in the journey
PS, unlocking the boot does not give you new firmwares. FW are official releases from sony. Custom roms are made by non sony developers and are not official
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I agree 100% but Sony do not own Android, even if it is a part of a stable product we messing around with Android and we testing they product. They should be grateful for that. They also learning from us so why don't give the right support to the customers.
We are not testing their product, they do it themselves, they are aware that there is a lot of android users that choose android in order to have more control but a lot of software on the phone is their intellectual property and they have every right to protect it.
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The only firmware that my phone accepts is the : C6902_14.1.G.1.526_TW.ftf but then i got a problem when phone is charging it works well but when its not charging when i close my phone the phone restarts itself ...and gives me some Crash Errors at the startup screen
gregbradley said:
We are not testing their product, they do it themselves,
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I know they do, they have to but we stress this device upgrading, flashing, so in some way we test it also.
gregbradley said:
..they are aware that there is a lot of android users that choose android in order to have more control but a lot of software on the phone is their intellectual property and they have every right to protect it.
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Absolutely Right, I forgot about that.
Meni30 said:
The only firmware that my phone accepts is the : C6902_14.1.G.1.526_TW.ftf but then i got a problem when phone is charging it works well but when its not charging when i close my phone the phone restarts itself ...and gives me some Crash Errors at the startup screen
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Try using pccompanion to repair the phone
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I'm getting my z3c on the 1., and I'm very excited.
I have a question though;
How long do you think it'll take before we get root on this phone, to open up for some more advanced functions ? I know no-one can say for sure, but you guys migth take a shot based on your experiences.
This will be my first new phone in years, so I'm not in the loop about how long this usually takes, after a phone comes out.
real_per said:
I'm getting my z3c on the 1., and I'm very excited.
I have a question though;
How long do you think it'll take before we get root on this phone, to open up for some more advanced functions ? I know no-one can say for sure, but you guys migth take a shot based on your experiences.
This will be my first new phone in years, so I'm not in the loop about how long this usually takes, after a phone comes out.
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Asked several times, no real answer as every device is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=307720938
CollinsJ said:
Asked several times, no real answer as every device is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=307720938
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Thanks, I should have searched first.
I guess we'll just have to hope, pray and wait.
Could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
spida_singh said:
Could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
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Would be a first step but useless until we got a recovery with zip flash ability
Is there a dev actively looking for a way to root locked bootloader? If yes, does he have a blog or Twitter? I want to follow his progress..
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wooki said:
Would be a first step but useless until we got a recovery with zip flash ability
Is there a dev actively looking for a way to root locked bootloader? If yes, does he have a blog or Twitter? I want to follow his progress..
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If we had a recovery, that tool wouldn't even be necessary xP
I'm guessing Doomlord will, in time, come up with something. Doesn't he always...?
Though I do believe we need to find a security hole to even get a recovery working (correct me if I'm wrong here).
EDIT: I've also tried every one-touch root apps and various Windows programs. None of them work ;-;
Damn you, Google, for hiring exploit patchers with such skills!
someone755 said:
If we had a recovery, that tool wouldn't even be necessary xP
I'm guessing Doomlord will, in time, come up with something. Doesn't he always...?
Though I do believe we need to find a security hole to even get a recovery working (correct me if I'm wrong here).
EDIT: I've also tried every one-touch root apps and various Windows programs. None of them work ;-;
Damn you, Google, for hiring exploit patchers with such skills!
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They now have geohot (George Hotz) working for them to stop exploits..
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pricey2009 said:
They now have geohot (George Hotz) working for them to stop exploits..
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Well yeah, that's exactly what I was aiming at with my comment
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Well yeah, that's exactly what I was aiming at with my comment
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In Doomlord we trust, he never let's us down. Patentice is a virtue lol
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pricey2009 said:
In Doomlord we trust, he never let's us down. Patentice is a virtue lol
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Patience is a virtue. But having the reason I bought the device go away if I unlock the bootloader is just unfair, imo.
I can't choose between a good camera and making my own kernels ;-;
I'm sure it won't be too long buddy
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Having bought all my devices over 6 months after they were released was probably much better for me than I ever realized xD
I'm tinkering with the idea of modding a stock FTF with root and whatnot and flashing it with flashtool. Anyone tried that yet? Or is everyone too busy looking for that one exploit they're unlikely to find?
EDIT: Back to the drawing board. Seems like things have changed a lot since I last took a look at an FTF.
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Having bought all my devices over 6 months after they were released was probably much better for me than I ever realized xD
I'm tinkering with the idea of modding a stock FTF with root and whatnot and flashing it with flashtool. Anyone tried that yet? Or is everyone too busy looking for that one exploit they're unlikely to find?
EDIT: Back to the drawing board. Seems like things have changed a lot since I last took a look at an FTF.
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you can make a prerooted firmware with prfcreator, but then its a flashable zip and we can only flash ftf files?
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you can make a prerooted firmware with prfcreator, but then its a flashable zip and we can only flash ftf files?
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Well considering most people don't want to unlock their bootloaders and miss out on the amazing camera, we can only flash FTFs (Sony-signed software).
(No system/boot write access, so finding an exploit is crucial.)
Looks like my Nokia 6210 will have to keep doing its job for a while