[Q] Battery Charging - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, while searching for battery to buy for the I9000, I stumbled upon something that made me question stuff and all. Couldn't find answers on the internet so I'm asking here.
Batterys have a limited charging times, that when you charge it lots of time (lots of time) it stops working properly (right?).
So I have my device for 3 years now, or something close to that, and my battery surely isn't as it was when I bought it. I use it everyday, and my schedule is: I remove from charging at 6h20, plug it at 13h00 and leave it 'till the next day, everyday. My battery is barely lasting 5 hours, which wasn't like that.
So question is, what's good for my battery now? Stop charging all day? Reschedule when I charge? Buy a new battery?

Chuck it and get a new one. Search the threads to find the best brand. About 1800mA is the max. Anything claiming more is fake unless it is larger and comes with a new back case for your phone.
Anker is one of the good brands.
Also, download betterbatterystats and look for apps using unusually high partial wakelocks and alarms and remove as necessary.
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That Smasung stock battery, is it really 15000mAh? Once I've changed it with another Samsung battery, but a 1000mAh, and had a very similiar drain, using my phone normally.

1500, not 15000 lol
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knuckles1978 said:
1500, not 15000 lol
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Oh lol, I've overtyped the 0.

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Phoneboy 6800mah extended battery

Hi guys,
Just wondering whether anyone else has bought this for there note 2?.
My arrived today, £9 99 from phoneboy.co.uk and not a good start! One of the clips on the new back casing had snapped off, so on the right hand top side the case doesnt sit flush with the phone, but no deal I can live with that, just cant be bothered returning it. Lol.
So I changed my phone up to 100% and started the new 6800mah battery first cycle, ive gotta say its lasting the same amount of time as the original samsung battery that comes with the phone. But I'm guessing I need to charge the battery a few good times first before I see any difference in its life. And I just hope there will be!??
Stay tuned, I will keep you all updated.
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So is it a 6800 or 3800 battery ? Title and content conflict with each other
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Sorry bud, its a 6800mah. Apologies, Its late here! Lol
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Update: 1st cycle
Put on charge at 14% due to going to bed. Mainly browsering Internet, listening to music, a few youtube videos. Browsing google play store. Played a few games.
Not really any difference from samsungs offical battery considering its double in power. Hoping thst will change though after a few cycles
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gibbo82 said:
Update: 1st cycle
Put on charge at 14% due to going to bed. Mainly browsering Internet, listening to music, a few youtube videos. Browsing google play store. Played a few games.
Not really any difference from samsungs offical battery considering its double in power. Hoping thst will change though after a few cycles
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If u do not charge it in external charger u will never see a difference. Phone stops charging ANY battery when it gets to a set voltage. Good luck.
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gowansta said:
If u do not charge it in external charger u will never see a difference. Phone stops charging ANY battery when it gets to a set voltage. Good luck.
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Li-ion batteries all provide the same voltage at full charge.
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Li-ion batteries all provide the same voltage at full charge.
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I know for a fact they stop charging when the phone "thinks" it has reached capacity. So buy a 1000000 mah battery and charge it in the phone and see no difference.
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take the extended life battery, and when first putting in phone, charge for 12 hrs on AC. then discharge down to critical (5%) and charge back up to 100% using minimum 8-10 hr cycles each charge up for first 4 cycles or so. phone will build battery stats and you should see badass life right away.
Mind running some battery benchmark tools?
I purchased an Onite extended battery here and it should be coming in friday. I posted some results of my standard size Onite battery in another thread and had some pleasing results, even though it's still a fresh battery. The 350ma (+-50ma) slow charger that came with my 2 Onite batteries takes about 10 hours to charge one of the batteries (assuming the 3500mah is true), then this means the 6500 mah extended battery will take about 18.5 hours to fully charge through that .35A charger. I don't mind the normal batteries taking long to charge, as it charges a littler longer than I sleep and the slower the better.

[HEADS UP] Anker N7100 Battery on offer £5.99

Anker 3100mAh Li-ion Battery for Samsung Galaxy Note 2/II GT-N7100 - White
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009OWLTLO/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
They've been reduced, by a lot! get a bargain while you can.
Update: Courtesy of stesteste's find, there is another very good deal.
stesteste said:
for an extra £5 u get 2 battery and a free wall charger
Anker® 2 x 3100mAh Li-ion Batteries for Samsung Galaxy Note 2/II + Free Anker Wall Charger
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009UOFE1C/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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thanks a lot!! it is always great to have a second battery, and even better for this price:good:
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Anker 3100mAh Li-ion Battery for Samsung Galaxy Note 2/II GT-N7100 - White
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009OWLTLO/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009OWLTLO/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
They've been reduced, by a lot! get a bargain while you can.
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For 6 quid i'll take a chance on that. Nice find.
lrm537 said:
For 6 quid i'll take a chance on that. Nice find.
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"Do" take a chance, Anker make superb batteries that work either equal to or better than the originals in terms of life span and quality. I've tried batteries from other manufacturers in the past and had my first Anker, all the way back when I had my HTC Desire, ever since then it's the only 3rd party battery producer I trust.
I've tried others, but they just don't compare in my opinion.
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Though it's a great price I can't justify to buy it because the current battery last me 1.5-2days. What do I do with the spare battery? What do you guys do? Buy it as spare and use it once a blue moon? Or switch every so often to spread stress of battery?
Removal of case is also tedious..
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JLneonhug said:
Though it's a great price I can't justify to buy it because the current battery last me 1.5-2days. What do I do with the spare battery? What do you guys do? Buy it as spare and use it once a blue moon? Or switch every so often to spread stress of battery?
Removal of case is also tedious..
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I agree. I see no point in a 2nd battery for the Note 2 unless you live in a place where there is constant power outages that may last a day. But if you are in North America I see no reason.
It's $10 for americans, so half price. I ordered one, never know when you forget to charge it one might or are super low and need to go out somewhere.
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It's $10 for americans, so half price. I ordered one, never know when you forget to charge it one might or are super low and need to go out somewhere.
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But you should never leave these batteries fully charged. It ruins them. So thats a no.
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I use mine for navigating whilst out on hikes.... so I need the extra juice as the having GPS on constantly, drains the battery and there ain't no power sockets half way up Mt Snowdon! Lol
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for an extra £5 u get 2 battery and a free wall charger
Anker® 2 x 3100mAh Li-ion Batteries for Samsung Galaxy Note 2/II + Free Anker Wall Charger
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009UOFE1C/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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stesteste said:
for an extra £5 u get 2 battery and a free wall charger
Anker® 2 x 3100mAh Li-ion Batteries for Samsung Galaxy Note 2/II + Free Anker Wall Charger
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009UOFE1C/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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Wounded! That wasn't up when I was looking last night, and consequently ordered a separate charger just for the batteries lol.
Either way I can't complain, I got the whole lot cheaper than what the Ankers originally were for one.
Edit: I'll add your link to the OP so others can see it before jumping to order the ones I found.
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How should you care for them then? I will probably only use it like once a week, but do I leave it at like 50% when I'm not using it?
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How should you care for them then? I will probably only use it like once a week, but do I leave it at like 50% when I'm not using it?
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Well, with my previous phones that I had spare batteries for, I alternated the batteries around, when one was depleted, I would swap it for a full one, whilst the other was left on charge.
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ac16313 said:
But you should never leave these batteries fully charged. It ruins them. So thats a no.
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Confirmed!
I'm no battery expert, but I doubt leaving a battery fully charged for a day, Is going to destroy it, that's like saying you have to remove your phone off charge once it's compete (which is recommended by all manufacturers).
If the battery gets fully charged at 3AM in the morning, I challenge you to show me a Muppet, that wakes up from sleep, just to take their phone off charge, in fear of damaging the battery due to over charging haha.
If someone does do that however.... then they seriously need to get laid and chill the hell out
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JLneonhug said:
Though it's a great price I can't justify to buy it because the current battery last me 1.5-2days. What do I do with the spare battery? What do you guys do? Buy it as spare and use it once a blue moon? Or switch every so often to spread stress of battery?
Removal of case is also tedious..
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I'd rather have the battery and not need it than need it and not have it. For £6 it's hardly gonna break the bank. Agreed the Note 2 has a sh*t-hot battery, but it's still new to me and i have it in use ALL the time so i'm powering through the juice at a fair rate of knots. Anyway, you can never have enough power.
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I'd rather have the battery and not need it than need it and not have it. For £6 it's hardly gonna break the bank. Agreed the Note 2 has a sh*t-hot battery, but it's still new to me and i have it in use ALL the time so i'm powering through the juice at a fair rate of knots. Anyway, you can never have enough power.
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True that it is cheap, only time I considered a 2nd battery is when I was nearing the end if my contract of old phone and battery was bit tired. Though buying a battery now and let it sit there for 2 years isn't really cost effective imo. I've never had batteries fail on me, I'd like to know when is a situation where I would need power but not had enough (especially with this phone).
If you hike, or its for an 'emergency' why not just buy one of those 50,000mah chargers? yes they cost more than £6 but then you can charge many devices, many times, and actually let it sit there for ages as there is a lot of mah for natural discharge.
Not trying to troll but genuinely would like to find a valid reason.
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Sv: [HEADS UP] Anker N7100 Battery on offer £5.99
Listening to internet radio drains the battery pretty quickly so I always have a couple of spare batteries with me to swap with. Don't like plugging in my phone all the time as soon as I'm close to an outlet.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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JLneonhug said:
True that it is cheap, only time I considered a 2nd battery is when I was nearing the end if my contract of old phone and battery was bit tired. Though buying a battery now and let it sit there for 2 years isn't really cost effective imo. I've never had batteries fail on me, I'd like to know when is a situation where I would need power but not had enough (especially with this phone).
If you hike, or its for an 'emergency' why not just buy one of those 50,000mah chargers? yes they cost more than £6 but then you can charge many devices, many times, and actually let it sit there for ages as there is a lot of mah for natural discharge.
Not trying to troll but genuinely would like to find a valid reason.
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I do have an external/portable battery charger too, but it's just not ideal when you're half way up a mountain, having a cables attached to the device you just want to whip out, check your bearing, then stick it back in your pocket again, it's just too cumbersome.
Having the extra batteries (for my personal situation) means, I can use my Note with MM Tracker or Memory Map, to guide me around the wilderness and not have to worry about conserving life.
I sometimes like to track the routes I take as well, that feature alone drains your juice like it's going out of fashion, If you want a fairly accurate track at least, as it has to poll it's position quite frequently.
I'll probably use two batteries at a time on a day-to-day basis and keep one, part charged. At the end of a day, I'll remove battery 1, put it on charge and use battery 2 the following day, then do the same the following week but replace battery 2 for battery 3. At 6 quid each, I'm not bothered that there will be a battery sat fully charged for a day whilst not in use, as it's not being left in storage fully charged long enough for it to be affected in my opinion, not short term at least anyway.
It seems impossible To find an anker or hyperion extended battery on amazon/ebay uk
. Does someone manage to buy one of them from uk?

Swollen battery

I have got a swollen battery.My note is 1 year old.It gets switched off immediately after the logo appears but somtimes works okay.I am on an asop rom.Is it the battery or the rom?
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jayOverkill said:
I have got a swollen battery.My note is 1 year old.It gets switched off immediately after the logo appears but somtimes works okay.I am on an asop rom.Is it the battery or the rom?
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This is the most common thing now. I have seen that the stock batteries are not lasting more than a year.
Just go ahead and buy a new battery. It surely is not the ROM
Is it gona blast or something? Lol coz I really need to use that phone untill new battery comes
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Same thing happened with me 2 months back. U need a battery change. I changed my battey and my phone is ok.
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Buy A new battery & everything will become normal
The same has happened with me. My Note is 13 Months old.
I was playing game AVP Evolution till late night. And in the morning battery died, I charged it to full 100% but as soon as i boot up with in 4 second the phone again switched off , No battery low warning nothing. It is really strange but the fact is that the Samsung battery are just die completely all of a sudden, unlike other phones battery which dies gradually as it looses power and all that ........
I ordered a new battery & everything is fine now.
My old battery is unable to boot my phone even for 5 sec.
I am running my note on the swollen battery for about 8 hours now xP.Sometimes it switch off as soon as I turn it on but rest of the time it runs just fine.Anyways I ordered a new battery.
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jayOverkill said:
Is it gona blast or something? Lol coz I really need to use that phone untill new battery comes
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likeliness of it "blasting"... not very likely.. possibility of it "blasting".. it is possible..
batteries just go bad... a battery is only solid for around 500 charges then they just start losing their charge faster. i mean we are using small computers so this is just going to happen more and more. different reasons could cause this.... use of phone (it is what its designed to do..lol), a "cell" could just go bad causing the swelling, the circuitry in the battery fails causing the swelling, your charger goes bad and takes the battery with it (i had a cat bite thru a cable and it ground out..next day the battery showed signs of swelling and within a week you couldnt snap the battery cover on)... etc....
use is up to the user and their needs... there is a danger of the battery shorting the phone out totally and it never working again too. its not something that happens often but it is a solid possibility, so basically use good judgement...
it's usually caused by over charged (u don't unplug the charger when it reach 100%).
I've been using my Note more than a year and my battery still flat as it is new.
razgard said:
it's usually caused by over charged (u don't unplug the charger when it reach 100%).
I've been using my Note more than a year and my battery still flat as it is new.
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i beg to differ... the batteries have smart circuitry to protect against this. overcharging has not been a problem for years... i personally have left one of my notes on charge for days... it always stays on charge for 5-6 hrs past it being 100% and it still is a strong battery.. also just because a battery is flat doesnt mean its good... the swelling just makes the fact it is going bad more obvious...
I agree with kawgirl
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Charging ONE

Anyone know how strong of a charger this phone will accept and use efficiently and safely without causing a problem? I haven't seen this asked but the battery life is terrible on this phone. Honestly the battery is just not enough mah to be efficient on the phone. I wonder what kind of battery life people are getting who actually have lte?
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Check here for battery life info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242512
treIII said:
Anyone know how strong of a charger this phone will accept and use efficiently and safely without causing a problem? I haven't seen this asked but the battery life is terrible on this phone. Honestly the battery is just not enough mah to be efficient on the phone. I wonder what kind of battery life people are getting who actually have lte?
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Doesn't matter if it's 'too strong' as it will only pull the current it needs. Too small is what you need to worry about.
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You must be doing something wrong then or setup something that is eating away at it. I have had my one off the charger now for almost 11 hours and I'm at 92%. Obviously I haven't used my phone hardly at all today thus far, but even with moderate usage I have been very pleased. I have been losing 1% about every 45 min today. That's solid
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You must be doing something wrong then or setup something that is eating away at it. I have had my one off the charger now for almost 11 hours and I'm at 92%. Obviously I haven't used my phone hardly at all today thus far, but even with moderate usage I have been very pleased. I have been losing 1% about every 45 min today. That's solid
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Noob question how do you take screenies on the One? haha
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Noob question how do you take screenies on the One? haha
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Power + home button

Battery life is crap

Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?
i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.
The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.
So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!
Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it
My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!

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